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I just tried something that seems like it should be simple, but I've had no luck with it whatsoever. I plugged a USB-DVD drive into the transformer dock, and hoped to find the ability to play an actual physical DVD. I don't see anything in the default software that appears to support this, nor do (apparently) any of the media players that I've installed.
I searched the market for "DVD", and found lots of software for converting DVDs to MK4 and various other formats, but nothing that appears to play a DVD directly.
Is there a way to play DVDs via an attached drive on the transformer?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Youd need drivers to support an external optical drive and an application that would be able to read that format. Currently there isnt anything because, until recently, there wasnt anything on android that had a true USB host.
I wouldnt expect it to happen any time soon either. I dont see the demand being very high as there are only two tablets with a full USB and nothing with a built in drive.
Bummer. I think you're right, though - it looks like I'm a bit ahead of things with this attempt. It should be possible, maybe even easy, to run a USB DVD drive on Android, but it will require an application that knows how to talk to the USB interface. And since the USB Host interface was just introduced with Android v3.1, it isn't likely that these applications will exist at this point.
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/usb/host.html
I've seen mentioned in the Samsung presentation and on various websites that go over Homesync, but I still don't know what it is. Is it cloud storage from Samsung? Or does it allow you to purchase a 1TB hard drive separately from your Galaxy S4 that you keep in your Home, and then let you sync your devices with it? If it's just server-side cloud storage, are they actually offering 1TB for free for the lifespan of your device?
Thanks for any feedback.
Homesync is a device by Samsung, that is connected to your TV through HDMI. It natively runs android 4.2 and will act as a smartphone that is connected to your TV. You are able to download apps just like you would on a normal smartphone.
Homesync will be controlled using either your smartphone (the phone will acts as touchpad/keyboard) or by connecting a mouse/keyboard in one of the usb ports.
Homesync will indeed also give you the ability to backup your device contents on the built-in 1TB hard drive.
Although the device is still under development (and more specifically the software) so we have no idea where this project will lead, but it is expected to bring the Samsung Convergence Ideal to your home, allowing you to connect all sorts of Samsung devices.
more information will follow
Alright, thanks for clearing that up. Sucks that it's not technically server side cloud storage and you'll have to pay for the device separately.
Hadnt heard of this before now, sounds like the sort of thing I'd want have the given a rough idea when they think itll be released?
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Hadnt heard of this before now, sounds like the sort of thing I'd want have the given a rough idea when they think itll be released?
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http://goo.gl/kfYZ4P
I plan on primarily using it for XBMC. The support looks good, along with the price and specs. What do you guys think?
I think it depends on how you plan to access your media. If you plan to use a NAS, you might be alright; if you were planning to use an external drive from the USB port, you need to wait for the OUYA team to fix the problem with detection of the hard drive. Also, you may find yourself needing to use the gamepad to control the interface--if that's a deal breaker you need to plan accordingly.
Also, bear in mind that the XBMC for Android is still in early alpha!
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As someone who had never used XBMC or Plex (or anything else like that for that matter) prior to this past month, I am so excited about how well XBMC works with the OUYA!
You sound like someone who has used it before. If you're familiar with the basics then getting the OUYA to run XBMC in (almost) flawless 1080p is...well...easy! With the release of an official version of XBMCHUB last week, I don't think I'll ever hook my laptop up to my TV again.
Going into the OUYA, I had no idea of it's potential as a do-all media center. I was hoping it'd have Netflix and flash content, but that's about as far as I had hoped, so I'm very excited about all of this.
At only $99, I've been hearing people say there is no better box for XBMC, but maybe other, more experienced people could chime in.
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I think it depends on how you plan to access your media. If you plan to use a NAS, you might be alright; if you were planning to use an external drive from the USB port, you need to wait for the OUYA team to fix the problem with detection of the hard drive. Also, you may find yourself needing to use the gamepad to control the interface--if that's a deal breaker you need to plan accordingly.
Also, bear in mind that the XBMC for Android is still in early alpha!
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I'm not sure what USB port problem you mean? I am using a 1TB WD USB HDD and have no problems with read.
I personally bought the ouya strictly for XBMC. I've used xbmc streaming from smb shares since original Xbox and it was called Xbox media center. I still use original Xbox with xbmc and the ouya is its replacement. Xbmc works amazingly better on it even in its alpha state. Those guys are pros and I have every faith they will deliver on the android platform. The only caveats so far is that I'd like a remote control instead of controller and it doesn't exist yet. Perhaps in the future it will. I've set my ouya to boot directly into xbmc but like above poster said the USB support needs work and the issue with the ouya turning itself on when its asleep and not shut down. That's annoying. Also don't plan to use WiFi. Ouyas metal casing hinders WiFi too much for streaming video in decent quality.
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I'm not sure what USB port problem you mean? I am using a 1TB WD USB HDD and have no problems with read.
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I have a 2TB WD drive and a 3TB Toshiba drive, both using external power. With either of them if I plug in the drive light comes on and blinks but the OUYA doesn't mount it no matter how long I wait. One is formatted as FAT32, the other as NTFS. It makes no difference.
The workaround I've found (don't remember where I saw this originally) is to plug in the drive while the OUYA is powered off and unplugged, then do a system reset. After this, the external drive is recognized and mounted as /usbdrive and the light on the drive only flashes when being read from or written to. I can install XBMC, scan my movies and shows into the library, use the external drive for my emulator roms, etc, etc. It works.
The problem is if I remove the drive for any reason or if I get an update the drive is no longer recognized and I need to do another system reset again, add back all my games, reinstall XBMC and rescan my library (import doesn't seem to work for me) and hope that I don't have to deal with another system update any time soon....
That's why I'm not currently recommending the OUYA if people plan to use an external hard drive to access their media. I'm not the only one with these issues, if you Google for OUYA and external drive you'll see many others are having the same issues.
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Ouya is stuck on 60hz framerate. So 24hz or 50hz files will have some stutter. Maybe stutter is not the right description, it's not perfectly smooth due to framerate adapting to 60hz. I have XBMC with hardware acceleration installed, it really is framerate conversion (or whatever you call it) that causes this.
I like XBMC on Ouya but prefer a media player that adapts its framerate output to the media file, like my Boxee Box does. You'll have a perfectly smooth picture. It really is a lot better to look at.
Using the XAF edition while I wait for Gotham to become stable for android. Works amazingly well.
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Does Dolby digital and dts work with this?
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Ouya is stuck on 60hz framerate. So 24hz or 50hz files will have some stutter. Maybe stutter is not the right description, it's not perfectly smooth due to framerate adapting to 60hz. I have XBMC with hardware acceleration installed, it really is framerate conversion (or whatever you call it) that causes this.
I like XBMC on Ouya but prefer a media player that adapts its framerate output to the media file, like my Boxee Box does. You'll have a perfectly smooth picture. It really is a lot better to look at.
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Yeah, I read about that. Is that a limitation that can be fixed with development, or is it impossible?
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I think it depends on how you plan to access your media. If you plan to use a NAS, you might be alright; if you were planning to use an external drive from the USB port, you need to wait for the OUYA team to fix the problem with detection of the hard drive. Also, you may find yourself needing to use the gamepad to control the interface--if that's a deal breaker you need to plan accordingly.
Also, bear in mind that the XBMC for Android is still in early alpha!
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I have a 1TB Seagate with which I used to have the problem with it not being recognized by my Ouya. Since then I have tried different OTG mounting apps. The best I've found is an app called Paragon which mounts USB drives to '/mnt/usbdrive' by default and has full NTFS read/write capabilities. Also it's automated so it mounts the USB drive at startup without any prompting. The only thing is it requires full root and superuser access. Not a big deal, but a formality nonetheless. Mainly I'm just saying that's there's simple enough workarounds for the Ouya's external hard drive issues.
Also the XBMC Android build found here (http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=152005) works great on my Ouya. Navigating using the gamepad may be a little clunky but the capabilities of using the Ouya for full media playback is already there. Hell, I'm working on turning an Ouya into a full-fledged internet/digital PVR box.
just got my Ouya yesterday and I had xbmc with the 0.6 release installed and the xbmchub fusion wizard thing installed. The issues I have encountered are typing on that xbmc keyboard with only the touchpad is a very arduous experience. Navi-x is installed alongside all the 1 channel stuff but this has a script error but does not stop it from working.
It does crash in navi-x but the speed at which this thing boots up and restarts is rapid so it does not cause that much of a headache, but dont forget that this info comes from less than 24 hours usage.
Overal i am happy with this device and the xbmc install but i would like a easier way of starting the software similar to netflix on the apple tv as the kids can play what they like and not get on my back.
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...The only caveats so far is that I'd like a remote control instead of controller and it doesn't exist yet...
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There are two remotes for XBMC the official remote doesn't seem to work for me. But Yatse works well but drains my phones battery really fast. And as a response to a USB drive not working, I have a 2TB WD Passport for my Ouya that works like a charm.
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There are two remotes for XBMC the official remote doesn't seem to work for me. But Yatse works well but drains my phones battery really fast. And as a response to a USB drive not working, I have a 2TB WD Passport for my Ouya that works like a charm.
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I'm talking an IR remote that can turn the console on/off as well... I have the android app remote working just fine. the official one even.
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I have a 1TB Seagate with which I used to have the problem with it not being recognized by my Ouya. Since then I have tried different OTG mounting apps. The best I've found is an app called Paragon which mounts USB drives to '/mnt/usbdrive' by default and has full NTFS read/write capabilities. Also it's automated so it mounts the USB drive at startup without any prompting. The only thing is it requires full root and superuser access. Not a big deal, but a formality nonetheless. Mainly I'm just saying that's there's simple enough workarounds for the Ouya's external hard drive issues.
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Perhaps, but so far the OUYA has been the only Android device I've not felt a need to root and I'd like to keep it that way. Maybe it's just an artificial distinction, but to my mind if I have to root to get basic functionality then the OUYA ceases to be a console (plug and play) and becomes a small computer. If I'm to treat the OUYA as a small computer then I may as well simply run Cyanogen Mod and not waste any money with the OUYA games, because I'll be too busy mapping the game pad to play the many titles available in the Play Store. It becomes a silly, pointless waste of time and money, because I have several desktops which I can use on my television and had in the past been running XBMC just fine on those desktops with my 5.1 surround sound card and speakers.
I bought the OUYA because it promised me XBMC + Games + Android in a simple to use console. Most of those interested in the OUYA as and XBMC box are also people who've already run XBMC on their televisions via an old desktop or htpc, and want a console which will make doing this easier and standardized to just work. We already hacked together something on the desktop; we're looking for the easy button.
Otherwise, we'd have just bought a Midnight box or a Pivos....
I'd say yes.
I've got XBMC running on a load of devices, Raspberry Pi, Pivos Xios DS, Odroid U2, Nexus 7, HTC One X, Intel i5 w/ATI 7770... The RPi and Pivos are sluggish, the Odroid very buggy, the Nexus, One X and Ouya (all tegra 3) are very usable and provide nearly as smooth an experience as the powerful PC.
There are a few bugs still being ironed out but none are show stoppers. The current libstagefright build works nicely enough and will only get better. We should have an interim 12.2 build hit the Ouya store soon which will be mostly bug free and feature complete.
For remote the controller is ok and will be better when they finish key mapping it. You can also connect the ps3 bluetooth media remote which makes for a better experience. Other options are IR remotes that present as keyboards or the FLIRC device.
The main thing to bare in mind is that the Ouya is a pretty new device with lots of development being done every day, something like 10 OS updates in the past 4 months - give the devs time and we'll have a very nice little Tegra 3 box; I'm looking forward to seeing where we'll be in 6 months time. Not to mention the work being done on XBMCs side. A lot of core devs are working on supporting the Ouya as they all have the device.
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I have a 1TB Seagate with which I used to have the problem with it not being recognized by my Ouya. Since then I have tried different OTG mounting apps. The best I've found is an app called Paragon which mounts USB drives to '/mnt/usbdrive' by default and has full NTFS read/write capabilities. Also it's automated so it mounts the USB drive at startup without any prompting. The only thing is it requires full root and superuser access. Not a big deal, but a formality nonetheless. Mainly I'm just saying that's there's simple enough workarounds for the Ouya's external hard drive issues.
Also the XBMC Android build found here (http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=152005) works great on my Ouya. Navigating using the gamepad may be a little clunky but the capabilities of using the Ouya for full media playback is already there. Hell, I'm working on turning an Ouya into a full-fledged internet/digital PVR box.
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I am also trying to replace cable TV with my Ouya and use it as a DVR. I would love some help, tips on getting it done.
* I have XBMC installed, but it doesnt see my network drives (shared drives on a Win7 PC), although all my other PCs can see them and use them?
* I planned on downloading the TV shows from 'sources' on the web, but wasn't sure how to setup auto gather new shows?
* I heard about Sick Beard and Coach Potato, but I never used them, I would love a guide or steps to help me set it up
* I wanted to get Amazon Video working too, since I pay for Prime, no official app, and I couldn't get a good Android one yet?
* Wouldn't mind having Hulu and Netflix too, I heard the google tv apks are best - any comments on that?
Anything you could help me with, would be very appreciated. I hate overpaying for Cable, and the service/quality sux
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I bought the OUYA because it promised me XBMC + Games + Android in a simple to use console. Most of those interested in the OUYA as and XBMC box are also people who've already run XBMC on their televisions via an old desktop or htpc, and want a console which will make doing this easier and standardized to just work. We already hacked together something on the desktop; we're looking for the easy button.
Otherwise, we'd have just bought a Midnight box or a Pivos....
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You can't blame the lack of XBMC support on Ouya, it was up to the XBMC team to follow through on that. Ouya only announced it was going to come to the Ouya because that's what XBMC said on their own website. They're finally working on an Ouya fork for the next XBMC release, probably integrating libstagefright into it (because those work best on the Ouya).
And you could've gone for one of those other boxes. They're around the same price as an Ouya. I was a KS backer but I supported it hoping, yet not expecting, some ROM dev support for the console. I know there's CM10 but I'm going to wait for better unlocking of the system before I go full custom ROM. Unless the custom ROMs have better overscan compensation support already (a huge issue with Ouya on my TV).
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I am also trying to replace cable TV with my Ouya and use it as a DVR. I would love some help, tips on getting it done.
* I have XBMC installed, but it doesnt see my network drives (shared drives on a Win7 PC), although all my other PCs can see them and use them?
* I planned on downloading the TV shows from 'sources' on the web, but wasn't sure how to setup auto gather new shows?
* I heard about Sick Beard and Coach Potato, but I never used them, I would love a guide or steps to help me set it up
* I wanted to get Amazon Video working too, since I pay for Prime, no official app, and I couldn't get a good Android one yet?
* Wouldn't mind having Hulu and Netflix too, I heard the google tv apks are best - any comments on that?
Anything you could help me with, would be very appreciated. I hate overpaying for Cable, and the service/quality sux
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1) I don't use network shares on my XBMC Ouya setup right now. All video files are stored locally to the external hard drive I have connected to my Ouya.
2 & 3) I actually couldn't get the Sick Beard Android app to load on the Ouya. I ended up buying an app called PowerNZB which came with its own Sick Beard server. It's just not as automated right now as it would be on PC when used in conjunction with SabNZBd and I hope to see that change soon. I don't know if I can talk about what 'web sources' I use openly either, but you can figure it out. Also I'll just bluntly tell you to Google Sick Beard tutorials to get a better idea of how to use it.
4 & 5) No clue. I don't have any of these on my Ouya at all. Sorry if I'm not as much help as you'd like.
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You can't blame the lack of XBMC support on Ouya
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I don't.
As far as I'm concerned, XBMC has already produced a build for the OUYA which works quite well and which I expect to continue to get better and better. Instead I blame OUYA for being unable to (or unwilling?) to fix USB drive detection.
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I appreciate the help
* at NssOne - Thanks, I do appreciate the help I wanted to use the network shares, that way I could have my win7 pc obtain all the shows and movies for me, using PC software, then place it on a shared network drive, where the Ouya could access them and play them. I figured that would be easier that having the Ouya run all that software and handle all those processes.
Which version of XBMC works best on Ouya, I saw several people post different versions, I know you need HW accel, but an exact file name or link would be appreciated.
Is Sick Beard better than Coach Potato? - I have never used either one? will they look for new shows and grab them for me?
Any one else trying to replace Cable TV with Ouya and XBMC? - Any advise, tips, software suggestions?
For XBMC Google the libstagefright version. And I don't know the difference between Sick Beard and Couch Potato. I've stuck with Sick Beard the whole time.
I have my USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and i cannot change anything on it with a File Manger, for some reason it is Read only,
can you please help me with that Mad Catz.
Tried it with Total Commander 2 and get Re-mount Error, and tried it with ES File Explorer 3 and get Sorry, operation failed.
I download allot and i need the Apps to download it strait to my External Hard Drive, whats te point of using a External Hard Drive if i cannot
change anything on it.
And why can i not plug the USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and plug a USB 2.0 stick in the USB 2.0 port at the same time?
This problem is not with my cheap MeLE M9 Android TV BOX.
And yes i have installed the latest Firmware 0202 and also have rooted it.
AmigaWolf said:
I have my USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and i cannot change anything on it with a File Manger, for some reason it is Read only,
can you please help me with that Mad Catz.
Tried it with Total Commander 2 and get Re-mount Error, and tried it with ES File Explorer 3 and get Sorry, operation failed.
I download allot and i need the Apps to download it strait to my External Hard Drive, whats te point of using a External Hard Drive if i cannot
change anything on it.
And why can i not plug the USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and plug a USB 2.0 stick in the USB 2.0 port at the same time?
This problem is not with my cheap MeLE M9 Android TV BOX.
And yes i have installed the latest Firmware 0202 and also have rooted it.
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If your drive is NTFS then it's read only on the MOJO.
You might want to look for apps which can write to NTFS, because the kernel isn't configured for NTFS write.
I've compile the kernel with read/write access but not too keen to try and 'install' it.. I don't want to brick it.. so i'm still doing research on this.
AmigaWolf said:
I have my USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and i cannot change anything on it with a File Manger, for some reason it is Read only,
can you please help me with that Mad Catz.
Tried it with Total Commander 2 and get Re-mount Error, and tried it with ES File Explorer 3 and get Sorry, operation failed.
I download allot and i need the Apps to download it strait to my External Hard Drive, whats te point of using a External Hard Drive if i cannot
change anything on it.
And why can i not plug the USB 3.0 External Hard Drive plug it in the USB 3.0 port, and plug a USB 2.0 stick in the USB 2.0 port at the same time?
This problem is not with my cheap MeLE M9 Android TV BOX.
And yes i have installed the latest Firmware 0202 and also have rooted it.
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try formating the drive into exFAT. I know its a pain but try it on a spare drive and tell us if it works. you can also try [root] Ntfs Mounter app from the play store.
mejdam said:
try formating the drive into exFAT.
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I don't think exFat is supported, just fat32, at least SDcards don't. TMK
I wouldn't be formatting a HD and transferring data
I'm hoping to have NTFS write support soon, just got to figure out how to put it on the mojo
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I don't think exFat is supported, just fat32, at least SDcards don't. TMK
I wouldn't be formatting a HD and transferring data
I'm hoping to have NTFS write support soon, just got to figure out how to put it on the mojo
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Why must we do this??
They had to make it so that we have Read and Write support on the M.O.J.A.
All the reviews i have read and seen say almost the same thing, Mad Catz just put a half baked product on the market, that cost 2 times what other
Android TV BOXES cost, it a pity, because it have good spects.
My Mad Catz M.O.J.O. is overheating every time and then he just stop working he freezes.
So i gone sent him back to the store and i think i gone ask my money back, to many problems with this product.
AmigaWolf said:
Why must we do this??
They had to make it so that we have Read and Write support on the M.O.J.A.
All the reviews i have read and seen say almost the same thing, Mad Catz just put a half baked product on the market, that cost 2 times what other
Android TV BOXES cost, it a pity, because it have good spects.
My Mad Catz M.O.J.O. is overheating every time and then he just stop working he freezes.
So i gone sent him back to the store and i think i gone ask my money back, to many problems with this product.
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Try the app mejdam suggest for NTFS write support.
Not all devices have everything turned on.
Why.. I'm guessing license cost.. and there's no way to recoup their costs (ie via ecosystem, it's a barebone kernel but functional).
Still the kernel is out now so it's a matter of time.
I thought you already return on before?
Maybe third time lucky? :laugh:
gwaldo said:
Try the app mejdam suggest for NTFS write support.
Not all devices have everything turned on.
Why.. I'm guessing license cost.. and there's no way to recoup their costs (ie via ecosystem, it's a barebone kernel but functional).
Still the kernel is out now so it's a matter of time.
I thought you already return on before?
Maybe third time lucky? :laugh:
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HAha yes, but i was thinking of asking my money back, but there (M.O.J.O.) Android TV BOX cost 2 times more then all the other Android
TV BOXES, so for 100 Dollars more then it cost then the other Android TV BOXES you can't pay for a licenses, so that everything works perfect, is it
to much to ask for that then?
But if [root] Ntfs Mounter works i gone stay with this box, because i now have (had) MX Player working with Dolby Digital and DTS
And why don't i hear nothing from Mad Catz?
And thanks mejdam for [root] Ntfs Mounter.
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HAha yes, but i was thinking of asking my money back, but there (M.O.J.O.) Android TV BOX cost 2 times more then all the other Android
TV BOXES, so for 100 Dollars more then it cost then the other Android TV BOXES you can't pay for a licenses, so that everything works perfect, is it
to much to ask for that then?
But if [root] Ntfs Mounter works i gone stay with this box, because i now have (had) MX Player working with Dolby Digital and DTS
And why don't i hear nothing from Mad Catz?
And thanks mejdam for [root] Ntfs Mounter.
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As a publicly listed company with major presence worldwide we have to adhere to licensing restrictions, costs etc. Some of those licensing costs are, frankly, too high to swallow on top of all the other licenses that are required, because they would mean we would have to push them on to you guys.
We can't comment too much on the Android boxes that you often compare us to, other than to say that we know that they're not officially Google licensed boxes. They still ship with Google Play access though which means that they're flying under the radar.
The cost difference is no longer $100 anyway - more like $50-$70 depending on where you buy and the difference is pretty clear once you start getting into 3D gaming and emulation (plus you're getting a top quality game controller included too!).
Mad Catz Rich said:
As a publicly listed company with major presence worldwide we have to adhere to licensing restrictions, costs etc. Some of those licensing costs are, frankly, too high to swallow on top of all the other licenses that are required, because they would mean we would have to push them on to you guys.
We can't comment too much on the Android boxes that you often compare us to, other than to say that we know that they're not officially Google licensed boxes. They still ship with Google Play access though which means that they're flying under the radar.
The cost difference is no longer $100 anyway - more like $50-$70 depending on where you buy and the difference is pretty clear once you start getting into 3D gaming and emulation (plus you're getting a top quality game controller included too!).
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Yes but now we have a machine that have no own Player (and no Dolby Digital and DTS) we do not have our own Key mapper for the GamePad, something
the NVIDIA Shield has, we do not have write support for NTFS external Hard Drives, we do not have support to use a external Hard Drive and a USB Stick
at the same time, and the list goes on and on, this box his android is to clean, we need all that to have a great Android TV BOX, now the box is not
complete like allot of review sites saying.
And all the others have all that, and all the others have a remote control or a air mouse with there Android TV BOX, so thats not a good reason that your
must cost allot more just because you have a GamePad with it, your Android TV BOX must even be cheaper because you have not paid for all does
licensing.
And the OUYA Consoles also sell there Android TV BOXES with a GamePad, but still it only cost $99.99 on Amazon, when Amazon is not the cheapest.
And the MeLE M9 cost on Amazon $113.78
And the most popular Android TV BOX out there the MiniX Neo X7 Mini cost $104.79 on Amazon.
And sorry to say but all the Emulators i tried SNES, N64, SEGA, AMIGA, Playstation 1, Neogeo arcade on Google Play work very good on does Android
TV BOXES, without any frame drops, they run 100%.
And all the 3D i played, like DEAD TRIGGER 1 and 2, SHADOWGUN, N.O.V.A. 3 - Near Orbit, play very good.
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Yes but now we have a machine that have no own Player (and no Dolby Digital and DTS) we do not have our own Key mapper for the GamePad, something the NVIDIA Shield has, we do not have write support for NTFS external Hard Drives, we do not have support to use a external Hard Drive and a USB Stick at the same time, and the list goes on and on, this box his android is to clean, we need all that to have a great Android TV BOX, now the box is not complete like allot of review sites saying.
And all the others have all that, and all the others have a remote control or a air mouse with there Android TV BOX, so that not a good reason that your must cost allot more just because you have a GamePad with it.
And the OUYA Consoles also sell there Android TV BOXES with a GamePad, but still it only cost $99.99 on Amazon, when Amazon is not the cheapest.
And the MeLE M9 cost on Amazon $113.78
And the most popular Android TV BOX out there the MiniX Neo X7 Mini cost $104.79 on Amazon.
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You're still not comparing apples with apples - Tegra 4 is several classes beyond what's present in those boxes.
Regarding what apps you feel should be included with the box, this is Android and everyone has their own favourite app to use for each task. We leave it entirely up to you to put on the box what you feel you need. It's also why we've been quite candid about recommending that you root M.O.J.O..
For a keymapper, for the time being we can recommend Tincore Keymapper.
Dolby Digital and DTS support: as you've found this is an app issue. All the apps need to do is allow pass through of DTS or Dolby and it will work - we know there's an issue with XBMC on Android as we've been talking to people there about it. It's possible we'll see a fix but there's no news yet on that front.
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You're still not comparing apples with apples - Tegra 4 is several classes beyond what's present in those boxes.
Regarding what apps you feel should be included with the box, this is Android and everyone has their own favourite app to use for each task. We leave it entirely up to you to put on the box what you feel you need. It's also why we've been quite candid about recommending that you root M.O.J.O..
For a keymapper, for the time being we can recommend Tincore Keymapper.
Dolby Digital and DTS support: as you've found this is an app issue. All the apps need to do is allow pass through of DTS or Dolby and it will work - we know there's an issue with XBMC on Android as we've been talking to people there about it. It's possible we'll see a fix but there's no news yet on that front.
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No do NOT need pass through for does audio, they need the codec, and you have to pay for it, or download it illegally (like for MX Player), and the GPU
Tegra 4 is fast, but i have not found any 3D shooters out there that needs a 72 Core GPU, all those games play good on a PowerVR SGX544MP2.
But yes the interface is very fast, also booting up is fast, only we miss a off button, and write support for NTFS formatted External Hard Drives, because
now we have no use for a fast USB port (USB 3.0).
Hello All.
I'm new to the forum and I've been messing around with my MOJO for about a week now since I received it in the mail. I have been plagued with a couple issues, but the experience has been overall positive. I updated the firmware and rooted it using Mad Catz's tutorial. And recently I noticed the new OS upgrade by Unjustified Dev. I haven't decided whether I want to move forward with it yet, because it does void the warranty after all.
I downloaded a boatload of apps and games to play around with. So far no issues until 2 days ago when the MOJO started freezing. It would sometimes get stuck and then eventually respond, but other times it would freeze entirely. It froze 3 times yesterday and 2 times today before I gave up with it. Not sure what to do. Should I upgrade to the new unofficial OS, or should I just return the MOJO?
I also made a quick review of the MOJO a couple days ago before the freezing began happening. See it at /watch?v=MjALrGzpQ4A
The video shows the PSX to USB adapter I tested with much success! As well as a webcam that works with video AND microphone audio. I just can't figure out how to get it to work with Skype and Messenger, as if it were a built-in camera like any other smartphone.
I had constant freezes too using the official software. I upgraded to CyanogenMod 12.1 and it has never frozen since.
Edit: I moved this post over to the CM12.1 thead instead because it was more relevant.
UPDATE: I upgraded to CM12.1 by Unjustified Dev and it works great. Unfortunately I had some trouble getting it to work in the beginning but it seems to function perfect now. It still works with the PSX to USB adapter, but I have yet to try it with a webcam.
Hi all,
I've only had my MOJO for a week or two at this point, but I wanted to throw my two cents in since I had the freezing and didn't end up updating to one of unjustified's roms yet (although I did root with towelroot).
I noticed the freezing occasionally when I had the MOJO multitasking quite a bit.
Restarting the MOJO once a day or so seems to have kept the freezing at bay. I have limitless remote service installed so I can control the MOJO with my phone to save controller battery, so I just use that to restart the thing if I remember or if I feel like it needs it. Being an "always on device" I'm not sure if the caches being cleared etc. is what the issue was, but since I've been restarting the MOJO on a regular basis (much the way I do with my phone) it hasn't really been an issue.
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krikit said:
Hi all,
I've only had my MOJO for a week or two at this point, but I wanted to throw my two cents in since I had the freezing and didn't end up updating to one of unjustified's roms yet (although I did root with towelroot).
I noticed the freezing occasionally when I had the MOJO multitasking quite a bit.
Restarting the MOJO once a day or so seems to have kept the freezing at bay. I have limitless remote service installed so I can control the MOJO with my phone to save controller battery, so I just use that to restart the thing if I remember or if I feel like it needs it. Being an "always on device" I'm not sure if the caches being cleared etc. is what the issue was, but since I've been restarting the MOJO on a regular basis (much the way I do with my phone) it hasn't really been an issue.
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The freezing only started for me about the same time (after 2 weeks from purchase). But after upgrading to CM12, I can confidently say that it is far superior to the Mad Catz stock version of Android, and its totally reversible. If you need any further assistance on how to get it installed, I can help. However, I didn't do the towelroot way, I used USB-USB.
I actually didn't even know that Remix 2.0 was a thing. And now that I know, I may try installing it on my old Dell netbook. Windows Starter ran like crap, but Ubuntu worked better. I can only hope that Remix 2.0 will run even more smoothly.
TwistyTravster said:
I also made a quick review of the MOJO a couple days ago before the freezing began happening. See it at /watch?v=MjALrGzpQ4A
The video shows the PSX to USB adapter I tested with much success! As well as a webcam that works with video AND microphone audio. I just can't figure out how to get it to work with Skype and Messenger, as if it were a built-in camera like any other smartphone.
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Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.
krikit said:
Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.
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I saw, somewhere on the TransformerForums, a post about that--some optical drives can be set to work with Android. (Asus Transformers, at least the older ones, are Tegra-powered Droids). If I get time I'll try to find the post, not right now for sure. Google is a good friend of mine...
krikit said:
Hey, thanks for talking about the peripherals here and in your video. I went ahead and got the playstation to usb adapter. I just need to keymap the dual-shock 2's, and 4-player games can be a thing without having to buy more controllers.
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Yes, I was extremely surprised that the PSX to USB adapter worked so perfectly. I do wonder if you could get 2 of them and connect them to powered USB hub and get all 4 wired controllers to be registered.
FYI, I found out recently that you can actually stream ROM files through ES File Explorer using any of Robert Broglia's emulators on a DLNA/uPnP server, which is AWESOME! That means you could have multiple Android devices streaming games to multiple emulators all from one place, without needing to be directly connected.
krikit said:
Another side-note: I believe you were speculating in your video about if an optical drive would work with the MOJO? I tested mine out (LG GP50NB40) , but couldn't get it to work with or without extra external power. I did find out that Samsung makes one specifically meant to mount on Android devices that's supposed to work on the Nvidia Shield, so I imagine that one works.
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This is the video I saw regarding the external optical drive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvoyab75QgQ
It may be a FAT32 format issue.
What I found on transformerforums.com was a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402880
I checked Amazon, it's available in black or white, a bit over US$100.
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What I found on transformerforums.com was a link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2402880
I checked Amazon, it's available in black or white, a bit over US$100.
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Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp
krikit said:
Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp
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I'm thinking the question is why Google hasn't added the few necessary drivers & codecs to Android to support optical drives natively--maybe just to support Samsung's market corner? Or simply not enough interest? It's not a big deal for me, I'd as soon rip a dvd and watch the resulting mp4, store the source dvd for backup purposes. But that's not quite so easy for Windows users, they must pay for an effective dvd ripper, while Linux has several open-source ones. I like Handbrake.
krikit said:
Thanks for posting this, that's a good find. I guess it's just a question of if a person's needs justify paying a bit more for a bluray drive that won't let them watch bluray's on the MOJO legally. Even if that's not a consideration, it's a clear case of proprietary garbage rearing it's self-eating head again. I digress.
It almost seems just a matter of time before Google builds this into a future version of Android (unless physical media sales continue to be replaced by digital).
Here's the Samsung DVD drive demo'd on the Shield TV that I was mentioning above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwynmT8GVI
Apparently, Samsung has been quick to make Android compatible optical drives to enhance their Galaxy brand: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2406001,00.asp
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I was gonna start a new thread to post about this but I searched DVD and this active thread will do as well as any, I suppose. Hopefully this interests someone!
Earlier today I figured out how to watch encrypted (DRM) retail DVD movies by sharing my PC's DVD drive on my SMB network. My PC is wired via ethernet but the MOJO is fully wifi. The same trick should work for a lot of Blu-Ray and all HD-DVD discs.
First off, I tried just sharing the optical drive on the network. Sorta worked, I could view the files but I couldn't play the movie. So I did a bit more research and figured out that Android doesn't have anything to decrypt your DVD's DRM (as some of you have noted) so I went back to the drawing board. Eventually I came across a Windows program called AnyDVD HD that decrypts DVDs, Blu-Rays, and HD-DVDs on the fly, seconds after you pop them into the drive. I downloaded and installed version 7.3.0.0 from a certain torrent site, you know the one. Don't worry, AnyDVD is no longer in business because they weren't allowed to be making the program in the first place, so you couldn't buy the program if you tried. Installed and patched AnyDVD HD, popped in my retail Scarface anniversary edition DVD and voila! Starts up and plays in seconds via Kodi. Even gets rid of those pesky trailers and FBI warnings. Like I said, this should work with most if not all DVDs and HD-DVDs. Blu-Rays are a little more hit or miss because as I understand it, with each new release they tweak the DRM a bit making it hard for programs like this to keep up.
It might not be as streamlined as having an external plugged directly into it, but for as often as I watch physical media I don't mind walking 20 ft over to my PC and popping the disc in the drive. Hopefully this is useful to everyone! If anyone has questions, feel free to ask!
EDIT: I'm thinking about maybe starting a YouTube channel for MOJO/possibly just general Android Box discoveries, and tips and tricks I've learned. Is this interesting to anyone/would anyone want to contribute?
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Earlier today I figured out how to watch encrypted (DRM) retail DVD movies by sharing my PC's DVD drive on my SMB network. My PC is wired via ethernet but the MOJO is fully wifi. The same trick should work for a lot of Blu-Ray and all HD-DVD discs.
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EDIT: I'm thinking about maybe starting a YouTube channel for MOJO/possibly just general Android Box discoveries, and tips and tricks I've learned. Is this interesting to anyone/would anyone want to contribute?
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Excellent work! If I thought I got surprised finding out about streaming shared ROM files, through ES File Explorer, directly to any of Robert Broglia's emulators. That totally blows my mind. But streaming DVD's wirelessly from one device to another? LOL Hot damn.
Technology... you scare me sometimes.