Bricked Defy - replacement sought - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi - yes, yes, I shouldn't happen but I seem to have wrecked my perfectly nice mb525 (no sign of life from any button combination, no Bootloader, doesn't show in RSD Lite).
I'm getting by with my trusty old Nokia but if anyone (in the UK preferably - I'm in Wiltshire) has an mb525 they are happy to sell at a reasonable price (paypal or transfer to your bank account) I'd be well pleased.
The more mods it has been through the better... I bought a phone running CM7 and got it onto CM10 but, frankly, I was out of my depth and should have been satisfied with where I was.
Anyone want a bricked phone for spares? Gorilla glass is near perfect.
Thanks!

Are you sure you don't want to try to unbrick it first?
If no then send it to me xD (ill pay the delivery)
You might want to look at eBay too

hsrars-d said:
Are you sure you don't want to try to unbrick it first?
If no then send it to me xD (ill pay the delivery)
You might want to look at eBay too
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If you could unbrick it that would be cool... I'd pay postage both ways, etc, to get it working again.
*edit* Yes, it came from ebay and that would where I'd have to get the next one from if a friendly XDA person can't sell one on or mend mine

If you want, you can send it to me and I will do whatever I can
If it is not unbricable, then you can save some money by buying a Defy (or Defy+) with cracked screen etc and replacing the housing from bricked one

hsrars-d said:
If you want, you can send it to me and I will do whatever I can
If it is not unbricable, then you can save some money by buying a Defy (or Defy+) with cracked screen etc and replacing the housing from bricked one
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As I say, I can't see the Defy on RSD Lite. Is there a guide to unbricking through SDK or have I got the wrong end of the stick on what that can do?
Cheers

No white LED when plugged in?
if not then i think that Defy is out of action
There is also the change that battery has died and it needs to be McGyver'ed
SDK is not much help, its generally for app debugging etc..
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hsrars-d said:
No white LED when plugged in?
if not then i think that Defy is out of action
There is also the change that battery has died and it needs to be McGyver'ed
SDK is not much help, its generally for app debugging etc..
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I have a spare battery so I don't think that's the problem... there's no white LED when plugged into the mains but there is when it's plugged into the laptop (running XP) when SDK is running.
Does that help at all?

Can you tell what did you exactly do when you started upgrading? Did you flash any SBF?
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brunc said:
I have a spare battery so I don't think that's the problem... there's no white LED when plugged into the mains but there is when it's plugged into the laptop (running XP) when SDK is running.
Does that help at all?
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Leave it in PC overnight..
Something similar happened to me..and leaving it overnight and flashing sbf next day fixed it!
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@brunc: What did you do prior the brick? How did it happen?
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Hi - I was flashing a stock UK T-Mobile sdf through RSD Lite on an IBM Thinkpad using XP.
Similar problems seem to have been encountered here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1466934
Is it possible that we're trying to go back to an 'impossible' state or Android OS so something in the phone corrupts?
Near foolproof Bootloader or not there IS something that can wrong when playing with these phones and I'll be a lot more cautions next time!
Thanks for all the suggestions so far. They haven't worked but they might help someone in future.
:good:

Found this guide, which I'll try next week unless I'm advised otherwise...
[2.2] White LED when plugged into PC and no response otherwise
In this situation, your phone is failing to enter any recovery modes correctly and it cannot charge properly either as the battery is not recognised properly. You cannot load the bootloader correctly for RSD Lite to recognise your phone as the battery is not detected.
The only way to fix this is via the MacGyver method which involves cutting up any USB cable and using it to power your phone. To do this, cut the non-USB connector part of the cable off and strip the outside and specifically get the black and red cables and strip a bit off them and ignore the white and green ones. Take out the battery of your Defy and using some tape, stick down the black on + and red on - (according to the Motorola battery), making sure the wire touches the connectors.
[Note: Personally I make sure the wires are on the outside of the connectors so I will either lose the connection only or get a better contact. If your wires are in between pins, you may end up shorting the phone if the wire touches the wrong contact.]
Once you've done this, hold down the Volume down button and power and you should get into bootloader fine without any "Battery low" errors. You can then follow step [1.1] to flash a working sbf file.

Yep, try that :thumbup:
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hsrars-d said:
Yep, try that :thumbup:
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Are you supposed to get the white LED light as you do when the phone is plugged in to a computer by USB cable? If so, nothing yet. I think I need crocodile clips to get a firm connection, tape doesn't seem to be very good.

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Another one bites the dust

So today i found out that my mini usb connector doesn't work anymore, i can't even connect to my PC or the charger, I'm legitimately screwed. I tried moving it about in it's place and it's kind of loose. I tore the phone down using mckebab's (spelling?) guide, and found out the soldering is ****ed. Damn Sony Ericsson, I wish their boot loader was as loose as their **** hardware. What can i do now? Besides getting a different phone? I can't flash back to stock rom but i guess it won't matter because i don't have a warranty.
there are companies in the uk that will repair that and resolder a new one on
not sure on the price but its a common problem with the x10
dibberly said:
not sure on the price but its a common problem with the x10
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...Wich really means a serious problem. Having the usb connector busted means not charging, not transfering, not storaging...
... But the most worrying issue is the first one. Without charge, no battery, and no X10.
Is there anything we can do to prevent this? (aside from being extra careful when plugging the cable, of course)
Mine is starting to have the same problem. I'm pretty sure I have a one year warranty though.
same here, need to double check every night if its charging
Same here... .
Ring sony, you probably need a new mother board.
Is there any smartphone without hardware issue??? i mean:
HD2 Capacitive screen dead - Samsung I9000 SDCARD slot dead - X10i USB Charging + sync dead - HTC Desire HD Camera bad focus left side, Iphone 4 Death grip etc...
What's wrong with them???!!
ttf said:
Same here... .
Ring sony, you probably need a new mother board.
Is there any smartphone without hardware issue??? i mean:
HD2 Capacitive screen dead - Samsung I9000 SDCARD slot dead - X10i USB Charging + sync dead - HTC Desire HD Camera bad focus left side, Iphone 4 Death grip etc...
What's wrong with them???!!
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Haha
Mine got busted 3 days ago, fortunately still works if i keep a pack of cigrettes underneath the head of the mini-usb(my phone has become a smoke addict? ). Have warranty, so gonna go and get it repaired on Monday/Tuesday(when i manage to flash SE fw back)
Regards
kLouD
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if youare unable to flash back to sony FW to send it in for repair just go mad with root explorer and delete most of the system so it wont boot
You could even make up a nice story that youve been externally charging your phone for a while until you had time to send it in but now its totally nacked, they will probably replace the handset for a new one if they recieve it not booting and usb connection not working aswell
go3asy said:
if youare unable to flash back to sony FW to send it in for repair just go mad with root explorer and delete most of the system so it wont boot
You could even make up a nice story that youve been externally charging your phone for a while until you had time to send it in but now its totally nacked, they will probably replace the handset for a new one if they recieve it not booting and usb connection not working aswell
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Ha ha.. nice solution, not being able as in don't hv my laptop with me has its display toasted . This is India we are talking about and they are a lot more reluctant to replace and more willing to repair.
I wonder if they will even repair mine as it has been bought from Greece.
I have the documents in Greek. Lol
Regards
kLouD
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shouldnt matter where its from just give the IMEI numbe ron the phone nothing more i did and they said 2yr warrenty on the product [was increased to 2yr for some reason ]
go3asy said:
shouldnt matter where its from just give the IMEI numbe ron the phone nothing more i did and they said 2yr warrenty on the product [was increased to 2yr for some reason ]
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Cool Will give just the IMEI Number only.
Thanks for this idea.
Regards
kLouD
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But how did you folks manage to screw it in the first place? Any precautions that we can take? Cant afford to screw it on mine, SE India support isn't that great.
karun11 said:
But how did you folks manage to screw it in the first place? Any precautions that we can take? Cant afford to screw it on mine, SE India support isn't that great.
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Yup. How it happened? All I remember is that one moment it was working fine and the very next no charging, no LED glow. Tried moving the USB in its place and it worked at a certain position.
Precaution: treat you phone like your life's only love-intrest
Regards
kLouD
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For some reason, the phone won't charge at all through the wall charger, but if i connect it to the pc, and bend it, it works. But i have to keep it bent and pressed really hard. Also, i would take kloud_'s advice. So i'm going to try to flash it to stock rom while holding it in all the way through the process.
Edit: nope.
pcfanboy142 said:
For some reason, the phone won't charge at all through the wall charger, but if i connect it to the pc, and bend it, it works. But i have to keep it bent and pressed really hard. Also, i would take kloud_'s advice. So i'm going to try to flash it to stock rom while holding it in all the way through the process.
Edit: nope.
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Hey,
You said you don't have the warranty... so I think its better that you keep it the way it is just get it repaired from companies that the dibberly mentioned in 2nd post.
Regards
kLouD
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I only use the usb connector to charge the phone
to transfer files i do it over wifi with wifile explorer,its on the market.
My condolences
LMAO thanks.
Anyways, i got the phone back a few days ago, and it still doesn't work as it used to. Doesn't charge through wall charger at all, and if i connect it to PC, it takes a few seconds to connect and charges, but extremely slow, also, SD card doesn't get detected. If i charge it while the phone is on, the battery will still drain even though it should be charging. Hell, i can't even get into flash mode, the led turns green but it stays there and flashing fails. All this just when the x10 started getting interesting with 2.3 being announced and the boot loader being bypassed. FML.
I soldered my connector back on when mine broke. But not every one has access to micro tools.
Overheating of the phone to many times and not making sure your charger is firmly seated before letting it charge overnight can cause the solder to heat up and come loose.
Swyped from Scrambled 2.2
I can't help with your other problems but maybe the charging. Mine charges slow using usb as well. What i did was, i took an extra micro cable, exposed the wires, clipped the green and white, capped the white & green going to the computer, and joined the white & green going to the phone. With that, you can use any usb wall or car charger with the cable. Just can't use it for data transfer, its why you use a spare.
Alternatively, if you have a usb wall charger that's universal, open it and make sure one of the two middle pins on the usb connector aren't connected to an outside one (cheap ebay ones do this). If it is, then disconnect/desolder them. Then connect the two center ones. Looking at the four soldering points coming off the usb to the board, it should look something like this
| |---| |
This information can be found on the forums/internet for universal charges, i believe. Not sure if i read about anyone doing it to the cable though. Also, I can't see your previous posts at the moment (on my phone) but did you say you opened it? If so, have you reopened it since you got it to make sure they did a secure soldering job? If that wasn't you, then my mistake, but i would still check it. Good luck, hoped this helped you or someone.
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Woke up to a [possibly] bricked Atrix :(

Yup. Left phone on charger overnight - woke up and the camera was flashing every 2 seconds. That's all it will do. Whether it's hooked up, unhooked. As long as the battery's in that's what it does. No rom changes in over 2 weeks. No damage of any sort.... no recovery or anything
Well you can probably do a warranty exchange.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
I had something similar with my nexus one. Except it wasnt the camera but the trackball... changing kernels around seem to help a bit but eventually i took it for water damage. Take the battery out and let it dry off for a day or two. You can also try to pry it open and have your hand at any corrosion if you find any. However i wouldnt recommend that unless you know what yer doing.
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guybanda said:
I had something similar with my nexus one. Except it wasnt the camera but the trackball... changing kernels around seem to help a bit but eventually i took it for water damage. Take the battery out and let it dry off for a day or two. You can also try to pry it open and have your hand at any corrosion if you find any. However i wouldnt recommend that unless you know what yer doing.
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He said it was left on the charger, not fell in water.
I'd crap my pants if this happened to me.
CM7 Drugged
ac7brier said:
He said it was left on the charger, not fell in water.
I'd crap my pants if this happened to me.
CM7 Drugged
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I realize that but like i said i had the same experience and my phone didnt get noticably wet at any time could have been a single drop of water and corrosion takes a while to build up.
Still...
Im wondering if you used your original charger when this happend because i can personally say ive seen my atrix behaving strange when connected to some cheap random charger (touch screen not working for example). Didnt believe it could cause permenant damage though.
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guybanda said:
I realize that but like i said i had the same experience and my phone didnt get noticably wet at any time could have been a single drop of water and corrosion takes a while to build up.
Still...
Im wondering if you used your original charger when this happend because i can personally say ive seen my atrix behaving strange when connected to some cheap random charger (touch screen not working for example). Didnt believe it could cause permenant damage though.
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It was hooked up with a Blackberry charger, actually.
Still acts the same.
Check the charger to see if its power ratings are different than your otiginal one.
Also... does the device boot up in any way or is the screen simply black and the flash flickering no matter what?
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guybanda said:
Check the charger to see if its power ratings are different than your otiginal one.
Also... does the device boot up in any way or is the screen simply black and the flash flickering no matter what?
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Looking at it today, I noticed that the charger port (or inlet if you will) is very structurally loose. The voltage on the blackberry charger is about 3/5 that of the stock Atrix charger, if memory serves me - somebody at work switched out the chargers the day after I got the phone. It took a good 6 hours to charge...
ATT said that it would be full cost of phone, because it's personal damage.
I'm looking into the Mi-One.
EDIT: No, the screen will not even begin to come on. Camera flashing is the only indicator of any power. Used an external battery charger, and two different batteries.
The MI-One looks sweet!!!!
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Looking at it today, I noticed that the charger port (or inlet if you will) is very structurally loose. The voltage on the blackberry charger is about 3/5 that of the stock Atrix charger, if memory serves me - somebody at work switched out the chargers the day after I got the phone. It took a good 6 hours to charge...
ATT said that it would be full cost of phone, because it's personal damage.
I'm looking into the Mi-One.
EDIT: No, the screen will not even begin to come on. Camera flashing is the only indicator of any power. Used an external battery charger, and two different batteries.
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Moto will probably either fix it or send you another phone. I know people who bricked from trying to downgrade and they got another phone. I'm sure you could too. I would try that before you buy another phone.
ETA: Now that I think about it not being able to put the rom back to stock would probably be an issue if they can get it to turn on but if they can't they might replace it.
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Looking at it today, I noticed that the charger port (or inlet if you will) is very structurally loose. The voltage on the blackberry charger is about 3/5 that of the stock Atrix charger, if memory serves me - somebody at work switched out the chargers the day after I got the phone. It took a good 6 hours to charge...
ATT said that it would be full cost of phone, because it's personal damage.
I'm looking into the Mi-One.
EDIT: No, the screen will not even begin to come on. Camera flashing is the only indicator of any power. Used an external battery charger, and two different batteries.
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I also think you should bring it up with motorola. Waking up to find your phone bricked is hardly what id call personal damage. You also shouldn't bring up the charger issue. And as for the usb port i'd say it would take too much effort to discern the connection with that and the phone acting as it is, and im sure they would rather just send a replacement unit.
A usb port malfunctioning is hardly an account for personal damage. The usual case is they simply stop working, but definitely not brick your entire phone.
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[Q] HD2 not turning on

Well sadly my beloved HD2 decided not to turn on yesterday and Im hoping someone has the answer to fixing it.
I have an ICS android rom installed onto it with CWM Recovery so I should be able to charge while the phone is not on but I am not getting a charging light at all, I have tried multiple usb leads and even a out of phone battery charger which says the battery is fully charged but when I turn it on all I get is a slight vibrate and then nothing. I have also tried bending the pins to make sure they are connecting with the battery.
Any Ideas? Thanks
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I have an ICS android rom installed onto it with CWM Recovery so I should be able to charge while the phone is not on
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i suspect you are confusing CWM and cLK. cLK can charge when off, magldr can't. Its nothing to do with CWM.
Assuming you have magldr, and don't have an external charger / spare hd2 / spare battery to test with, if you have a spare usb cable (mini, micro, doesn't matter, any old usb lead) cut end off, (mini end, lol) bare red and black and hold them against + and - on the battery for a minute or so. Fingers are fine, you wont get a shock. Don't touch the center plate on the battery, just the + and - outer pads.
If that doesn't work then its not the battery.
Yes sorry I did mean cLK, I have already used an external charger with the battery and I should be getting a spare tomorrow just to double check it is not the battery and I guess this method is just to charge the battery?
If it is not the battery do you have any idea what else it could be? again the only sign of life in the phone is the small vibration I get if I take out the battery and put it back in and press the on button.
Well I just got the spare battery but nothing new still get the tiny vibrate and the phone does not turn on
Possibility that the lcd went out on you... worst case scenarios is you having to buy a new used phone and selling your current one as parts not work. Hopefully by selling your broken phone... you will get some money to cover for the new used phone
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Surely if the lcd went the phone would still turn on?
Nahh although I love the HD2 it is time for an upgrade probably gonna wait for the HTC One X.
Looks like im stuck with this lame 2g iPhone for now then
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Surely if the lcd went the phone would still turn on?
Nahh although I love the HD2 it is time for an upgrade probably gonna wait for the HTC One X.
Looks like im stuck with this lame 2g iPhone for now then
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Yes its possible.... I had it happened to my hd2... but to make sure I searched and found that it is possible that the LCD went bad and still you can see that it power on. .. but because you cant see where your phone loads up. .. it could be bootlooping. .. but if it power up all the way. .. called it. .. see if it rings
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[Q] Changed flex cable for ear speaker..phone wont boot now

my ear speaker went out.. i ordered a new flex cable and replaced it.. checked all the connections 4 times took it apart put it back together.. when i press power.. green light comes on for 2-3 secs then nothing.. help.. im willing to send my atrix to someone to fix?.. give me some ideas please??
The first thought I had was your battery is dead.
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Nope fully charged it and complete backup before I even opened the phone...idk what the deal is..I know the screen don't even try to turn on I only changed the ear speaker flex cable
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Please check all your connections, especially the ribbon cable that has a jaw connector. This one is often the problem on this phone.
I've checked triple checked all the connections...when I press power it lights up green but no screen and I really can't tell if the phone is booting..phone worked perfect until I changed the flex cable out and nothing looks damaged..
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Assuming that the entire device itself is off and that it's not just the screen, and that all the connectors are securely in place and not torn, the only thought that I can come up with is that this may be an ESD (electro-static discharge) issue.
Anyway to test that theory? Like test if the phone it self is still alive without screen coming on..the motherboard heats up a little like it's on but as far as I can tell none of cables are ripped
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Anyway to test that theory? Like test if the phone it self is still alive without screen coming on..the motherboard heats up a little like it's on but as far as I can tell none of cables are ripped
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Connect the device to your computer with a data cable and see if it shows up as a device of some sort.
Of course if I was in that situation, I'd try other things too, like connecting the device to the charger with the battery removed, and see if it responds. I'd also try to get into recovery mode if possible. It's not likely to do anything different, but it's a better option than taking it apart again. However, I think it's either a damaged cable or an ESD issue.

Suggestions please. Phone melted...

So when I plugged in my phone last night and left it. An hour or two later I came back to it and it was hot (not unusual). Upon looking at the stock charger and micro USB port it was charred and melted. Phone will not charge, nor connect to a computer. I am running a week old version of liquid smooth march 14th (probably not important, but it will clearly indicate that I do not have a warranty to anyone at at&t). And I'm running the latest CWM touch recovery. I know people who also own galaxy s4s, so I can get a charged battery, but that can't be permanent. Anyone think there is a chance of flashing back to stock and possibly getting my warranty? Or should I just look into a new phone? Any recommendations? I haven't really kept up with this years phones.
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rust991 said:
So when I plugged in my phone last night and left it. An hour or two later I came back to it and it was hot (not unusual). Upon looking at the stock charger and micro USB port it was charred and melted. Phone will not charge, nor connect to a computer. I am running a week old version of liquid smooth march 14th (probably not important, but it will clearly indicate that I do not have a warranty to anyone at at&t). And I'm running the latest CWM touch recovery. I know people who also own galaxy s4s, so I can get a charged battery, but that can't be permanent. Anyone think there is a chance of flashing back to stock and possibly getting my warranty? Or should I just look into a new phone? Any recommendations? I haven't really kept up with this years phones.
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You could flash stock and get warranty, but there's a good chance they'd send you back an updated phone. Your best bet is probably to get an external battery charger and have two on you, or try and get some other phone repair service. Otherwise, you send it in for warranty and get stuck in the same TW only boat with the lot of us.
rust991 said:
So when I plugged in my phone last night and left it. An hour or two later I came back to it and it was hot (not unusual). Upon looking at the stock charger and micro USB port it was charred and melted. Phone will not charge, nor connect to a computer. I am running a week old version of liquid smooth march 14th (probably not important, but it will clearly indicate that I do not have a warranty to anyone at at&t). And I'm running the latest CWM touch recovery. I know people who also own galaxy s4s, so I can get a charged battery, but that can't be permanent. Anyone think there is a chance of flashing back to stock and possibly getting my warranty? Or should I just look into a new phone? Any recommendations? I haven't really kept up with this years phones.
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You could get a new usb ribbon. Until then to charge, if you strip an old usb and connect it to the terminal on the back used for wireless charging it will charge your phone, kind of slow though
I was thinking about wireless charging. Does it work well?
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rust991 said:
I was thinking about wireless charging. Does it work well?
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i hear mixed results on nfc. the samsung replacement battery cover is much thicker as it also includes an additional nfc antenna. theres a few aftermarket charging receivers that fit under the stock cover but i think the bigger ones cover the nfc antenna.

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