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When flashing a new rom

I know you should make a backup. So when you wipe and flash a new rom and kernel, do you restore data and that will restore all the programs you had prior at the time of the backup?
Thanks.

mynewepic10 said:
I know you should make a backup. So when you wipe and flash a new rom and kernel, do you restore data and that will restore all the programs you had prior at the time of the backup?
Thanks.
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If you do an advanced restore of your data through CWM recovery, yes it will restore all your programs and settings. However, this can cause problems as the old data does not get along with some ROMs.

mattallica76 said:
If you do an advanced restore of your data through CWM recovery, yes it will restore all your programs and settings. However, this can cause problems as the old data does not get along with some ROMs.
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So it is best to just reinstall programs?

I would use Titanium Backup or My Backup Pro to back up you apps+data. After the flash you can either restore everything from the backup or just the data. Some people have said that it's best to re-download your apps from the market and only install the data from the backup (as opposed to restoring app and data). I don't know, I've done it both ways and have never noticed a difference.

[Q] how can i backup all the apps?

Currently i am running FR006 and want to upgrade to FR008. Is it possible to restore all the applications after i flash the new rom?
Is there a way that i can back up all the apps installed on my phone in the form of apk?
Thanks

I'd suggest Titanium Backup
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I would suggest mybackup root

going from fr005 to fr008, you can just wipe the cache and dalvik cache and install fr008. you don't need to wipe data/factory reset. all your apps will be preserved. if you want to move to cm6/7, then you will need for factory reset the phone. either of the suggestions above will help you reinstall your apps after the flash.

+1 on titanium backup. There is no better app backup program. It may not restore as fast as mybackup, but it makes up for it with its features/reliability.
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thanks to all of u.
So i will do a titanium back up, just in case.. And install FR008 on FR006 after wiping cache and dalvik cache..

nandroid + flashing/restoring across roms

I'm having a little trouble understanding nandroid vs. other forms of backup and would appreciate some clarification. I'm running CM nightly on my Fido (Canada) G4. I took a nandroid as well as titanium backup of the factory stock image before I flashed CM.
A poster in the last thread I made suggested if I wanted to restore to stock, I could simply restore the nandroid, but I've also seen people say you shouldn't use nandroid to go across ROMs. My understanding is that nandroid is like having a filesystem backup, which would obviously not react well if you restored it over a new operating system (e.g. two different versions of windows). Or is nandroid more like say Acronis, which takes an entire disk image and overwrites everything?
Other misc questions:
- If I do restore via nandroid, do I need to wipe all data / cache / system data before or after the restore?
- I assume I can use titanium to restore SMS + all non-system apps across ROMs, which would save a lot of time.
- If I'm going from one CM nightly to another, would titanium work for system apps (e.g. all my settings, or contacts, etc)
- If I want to flash a new CM nightly, do I need to follow the entire wipe procedure just as if it were going from one ROM to a completely different one?
Thanks!

always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program

xBeerdroiDx said:
always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program
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yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one

kabutar said:
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
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yes, system/user data will remain. understand, however, that if you perform one of these dirty flashes and you have a problem with the functionality of the ROM, you'll need to do a full wipe and flash to see if this clears the issue before you report the problem in the development thread.

kabutar said:
yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one
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Your right on both titanium questions.. However its not recommended to restore system apps you backed up on a aokp/aosp ROM to a touchwiz ROM and the other way around... Other than that like I said your fine
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[Q] PLEASE HELP: Settings Application Gone

I have been doing some nandroid backups with online nandroid backup app and noticed the settings app was missing shortly after restoring desktop data from a nandroid backup using nandroid manager. Please help! This is a major inconvenience!

Wipe dalvik cache and cache and reflash your ROM and gapps.

estallings15 said:
Wipe dalvik cache and cache and reflash your ROM and gapps.
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Thanks for the response. What do you recommend I do in terms of backup? Would nandroid backup and later restore with nandroid manager app of user apps/app data work? How about my rom's settings I've worked so hard setting up?

frusso21 said:
Thanks for the response. What do you recommend I do in terms of backup? Would nandroid backup and later restore with nandroid manager app of user apps/app data work? How about my rom's settings I've worked so hard setting up?
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Make a nandroid in recovery. I always use titanium backup to restore apps. If the data for settings.apk is in your data partition it won't be touched. The other APS shouldn't be touched either. The backup will just be for good measure.

estallings15 said:
Make a nandroid in recovery. I always use titanium backup to restore apps. If the data for settings.apk is in your data partition it won't be touched. The other APS shouldn't be touched either. The backup will just be for good measure.
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Aaaaand it didn't work. Everything is the same as 10 minutes ago. Please help

ROM Update fixed this.

[Q] Install new build of ROM and keep apps and settings?

I have been using houstonn's 4.4 and now 4.4.1 ROMs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789) and am happy, but I want to stay on the latest build without having to reinstall apps and everything every time. I want to install the 12/11 BETA build, but how do I keep my apps and settings and stuff?
Thanks for helping me out - perhaps obviously I am new to this stuff. Fun though!

Gusalo said:
I have been using houstonn's 4.4 and now 4.4.1 ROMs (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789) and am happy, but I want to stay on the latest build without having to reinstall apps and everything every time. I want to install the 12/11 BETA build, but how do I keep my apps and settings and stuff?
Thanks for helping me out - perhaps obviously I am new to this stuff. Fun though!
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If you want to flash a new nightly build all you have to do is wipe cache and davlik flash new build the wipe cache and davlik again then fix permissions.......recommend doing backup before and if you want to keep app data for anything in future Titanium backup can backup that...hope this helps
Also if the framework changes I recommend entire wipe or if Dev recommends.....

RubbleTea said:
If you want to flash a new nightly build all you have to do is wipe cache and davlik flash new build the wipe cache and davlik again then fix permissions.......recommend doing backup before and if you want to keep app data for anything in future Titanium backup can backup that...hope this helps
Also if the framework changes I recommend entire wipe or if Dev recommends.....
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Thanks for the response. I have a couple of questions though.
1. For the backup - are you saying to use Titanium Backup to back up the apps and data and then restore the apps and data with Titanium Backup after updating?
2. If the Dev recommends entire wipe, is there any way to keep my apps and settings and stuff?
Thanks!

Gusalo said:
Thanks for the response. I have a couple of questions though.
1. For the backup - are you saying to use Titanium Backup to back up the apps and data and then restore the apps and data with Titanium Backup after updating?
2. If the Dev recommends entire wipe, is there any way to keep my apps and settings and stuff?
Thanks!
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If its just new nightly builds you can dirty flash...wipe cche and davlik then flash then wipe cache and davlik ag again.
For your first question use Titanium backup for app data if you do have to do entire wipe ( system,data,cache and davlik).
If the Dev recommended entire wipe he prob knows best cause he built it......if your on the ROM and flashing a new nightly like I said just dirty flash and if you use twrp under advanced click fix permissions after flashing also

do not restore apps+appdata and then complain about weird stuff happening like wakelocks, laggs, battery, fc, etc
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