When flashing a new rom - Epic 4G General

I know you should make a backup. So when you wipe and flash a new rom and kernel, do you restore data and that will restore all the programs you had prior at the time of the backup?
Thanks.

mynewepic10 said:
I know you should make a backup. So when you wipe and flash a new rom and kernel, do you restore data and that will restore all the programs you had prior at the time of the backup?
Thanks.
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If you do an advanced restore of your data through CWM recovery, yes it will restore all your programs and settings. However, this can cause problems as the old data does not get along with some ROMs.

mattallica76 said:
If you do an advanced restore of your data through CWM recovery, yes it will restore all your programs and settings. However, this can cause problems as the old data does not get along with some ROMs.
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So it is best to just reinstall programs?

I would use Titanium Backup or My Backup Pro to back up you apps+data. After the flash you can either restore everything from the backup or just the data. Some people have said that it's best to re-download your apps from the market and only install the data from the backup (as opposed to restoring app and data). I don't know, I've done it both ways and have never noticed a difference.

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On flashing between roms.

I know to do a system wipe/factory reboot, but do I also wipe the dalvik cache every time?
Zardos66 said:
I know to do a system wipe/factory reboot, but do I also wipe the dalvik cache every time?
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It's the safest way to do it, yes. If I were you, before doing anything, I'd install Titanium Backup and create a backup of all of you installed applications. Then, I would create a Nandroid backup for this current rom.
Each time you install a new rom, install Titanium Backup and restore your applications. Then, finish it up by creating a Nandroid backup. In the end, you can just flash between Nandroid backups to switch back and forth between roms that will contain all of your applications and user data.
Saturn2K said:
It's the safest way to do it, yes. If I were you, before doing anything, I'd install Titanium Backup and create a backup of all of you installed applications. Then, I would create a Nandroid backup for this current rom.
Each time you install a new rom, install Titanium Backup and restore your applications. Then, finish it up by creating a Nandroid backup. In the end, you can just flash between Nandroid backups to switch back and forth between roms that will contain all of your applications and user data.
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Alright, cool. I do make nandroid backups for everything and I use Titanium. I just wasn't sure on wiping Dalvik everytime. Thanks!

[Q] Does flashing FR008 wipe all my data?

Does flashing this rom wipe all my data??
Will i lose allm y contacts, messages, settings etc???
If so, how do i backup all of this stuff first?
I currently have rooted with clockworkmod and am wanting to upgrade to 2.2 for apps2sd and openGL ES 2 etc
Cheers
Sean
arnienz said:
Does flashing this rom wipe all my data??
Will i lose allm y contacts, messages, settings etc???
If so, how do i backup all of this stuff first?
I currently have rooted with clockworkmod and am wanting to upgrade to 2.2 for apps2sd and openGL ES 2 etc
Cheers
Sean
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Yes the recommendation for flash Liberated FR008 is to do a Wipe Data from ClockworkMod before flashing.
You should sync all of your contacts to Gmail using your Google account to preserve them and since you are rooted, you can use Titanium Backup or My Backup Root to save your apps, setting and messages.
Can I flash without wiping data, as the tutorial only says its especially reccomended if im coming from another ROM.
Currently I only have to stock at&T Rom (with some at&t apps removed) installed on my phone
arnienz said:
Can I flash without wiping data, as the tutorial only says its especially reccomended if im coming from another ROM.
Currently I only have to stock at&T Rom (with some at&t apps removed) installed on my phone
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You are coming from a Android 2.1 ROM and flashing an Android 2.2 ROM, so it is a different ROM. This is not a ROM that was made from a 2.1 to 2.2 OTA, so I think the best thing would be to do a rooted backup and then wipe before you flash. I would make a good nandroid backup using ClockworkMod before you flash, too.
tpbklake said:
You are coming from a Android 2.1 ROM and flashing an Android 2.2 ROM, so it is a different ROM. This is not a ROM that was made from a 2.1 to 2.2 OTA, so I think the best thing would be to do a rooted backup and then wipe before you flash. I would make a good nandroid backup using ClockworkMod before you flash, too.
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What is a rooted backup??
Yeah Ive done a nandroid backup. Is all I need to do is to root with clockwork, then nandroid backup, then install the rom?
I dont need it nand unlocked or anything? Also, is it easy to restore from a nandroid backup?
thanks for your help
arnienz said:
What is a rooted backup??
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A rooted backup would be to install Titanium Backup or My Backup Root to back up your apps, data and settings. You would install these from the Android Market after you have rooted your phone.
arnienz said:
Yeah Ive done a nandroid backup. Is all I need to do is to root with clockwork, then nandroid backup, then install the rom?
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No, I suggest that you then backup your apps, data and settings using Titanium or My Backup and then wipe data as per the instructions for flashing.
Perhaps you need to look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881634
arnienz said:
Also, is it easy to restore from a nandroid backup?
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Yes, when you select the Nandroid option in ClockworkMod, there is a menu selection for both backup and restore. A nandroid backup is a complete backup of your phone that you can restore and go back to if you don't like the new ROM that you flashed. It will restore your phone to the exact point it was before you flashed.
tpbklake said:
A rooted backup would be to install Titanium Backup or My Backup Root to back up your apps, data and settings. You would install these from the Android Market after you have rooted your phone.
No, I suggest that you then backup your apps, data and settings using Titanium or My Backup and then wipe data as per the instructions for flashing.
Perhaps you need to look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=881634
Yes, when you select the Nandroid option in ClockworkMod, there is a menu selection for both backup and restore. A nandroid backup is a complete backup of your phone that you can restore and go back to if you don't like the new ROM that you flashed. It will restore your phone to the exact point it was before you flashed.
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Okay thanks I might try this after work.
Also, waht is the most stable release of Froyo (with HTC Sense) for the Aria?
I've heard that FR008 can have problems with the reception after a flash.
I guess i can always flash it and see what happens and then restore back if i dont like it.
arnienz said:
Okay thanks I might try this after work.
Also, waht is the most stable release of Froyo (with HTC Sense) for the Aria?
I've heard that FR008 can have problems with the reception after a flash.
I guess i can always flash it and see what happens and then restore back if i dont like it.
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I have not had any reception issues when I flashed Liberated FR008. It runs just fine for me. I have a WiFi connection both at home and at work, so I leave WiFi all the time and I am very pleased with the battery life.

nandroid + flashing/restoring across roms

I'm having a little trouble understanding nandroid vs. other forms of backup and would appreciate some clarification. I'm running CM nightly on my Fido (Canada) G4. I took a nandroid as well as titanium backup of the factory stock image before I flashed CM.
A poster in the last thread I made suggested if I wanted to restore to stock, I could simply restore the nandroid, but I've also seen people say you shouldn't use nandroid to go across ROMs. My understanding is that nandroid is like having a filesystem backup, which would obviously not react well if you restored it over a new operating system (e.g. two different versions of windows). Or is nandroid more like say Acronis, which takes an entire disk image and overwrites everything?
Other misc questions:
- If I do restore via nandroid, do I need to wipe all data / cache / system data before or after the restore?
- I assume I can use titanium to restore SMS + all non-system apps across ROMs, which would save a lot of time.
- If I'm going from one CM nightly to another, would titanium work for system apps (e.g. all my settings, or contacts, etc)
- If I want to flash a new CM nightly, do I need to follow the entire wipe procedure just as if it were going from one ROM to a completely different one?
Thanks!
always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program
xBeerdroiDx said:
always make a nandroid in recovery. i recommend keeping it on your micro sd card. in the event you need to return your device to it's previously functioning state, restore the nandroid in recovery. if you are running an aosp rom and your nandroid is touchwiz, wipe data, cache & dalvik before restoring the nandroid. if the backup is on your micro sd then feel free to wipe system as well.
if you want to flash a nightly or update to a rom you are currently running, simply wipe cache and dalvik then flash the update, gapps and any custom kernel that you may be running.
i cannot answer your titanium backup questions because i do not use that program
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yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one
kabutar said:
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
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yes, system/user data will remain. understand, however, that if you perform one of these dirty flashes and you have a problem with the functionality of the ROM, you'll need to do a full wipe and flash to see if this clears the issue before you report the problem in the development thread.
kabutar said:
yes, that's about what I have. ok, thank you for the clarification of what to wipe! that's good to know.
re flashing a nightly/update: using your method should preserve system data yes? so no need to reinstall all apps or system data?
and thanks, I'll hold out hope that someone with titanium expertise will be able to answer that one
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Your right on both titanium questions.. However its not recommended to restore system apps you backed up on a aokp/aosp ROM to a touchwiz ROM and the other way around... Other than that like I said your fine
Sent from my WANAM'ED AT&T S4

[Q] TWRP Recovery- How to use?

So I am currently on Paranoid Android and wish to switch to another ROM (most likely AOKP or PACman just to try). In TWRP recovery, what would I select to just back up my app data and NOT my ROM, and after that is possible, what must I restore to get it back and in what order of flashing alon with my new ROM and GAPPS???:silly:
You can go into TWRP and backup and choose what partitions you want to backup. However, I'd suggest you backup everything and don't try to restore the data to another ROM.
I use Titanium to backup all app data as well as MMS history, WiFi networks etc then do a full backup in TWRP. Then wipe everything and flash the new ROM. Then boot up and reconfigure accounts and restore apps + data with titanium.
It may be a little more effort but this way you can always roll back to the previous setup if anything goes wrong and you're less likely to run into any weird issues from moving data around between ROMs.
Or you could try something like app2zip off the play store to make a flashable zip of only selected apps and data which is probably safer than the whole partition. If you do a full backup first you can always rollback if something goes wrong.
When using Titanium Backup, when I hit run backup, where does it go and how do I restore it after I flash my new ROM. Or do I do the update.zip option and flash that when I'm doing my new ROM?
GraysonB said:
When using Titanium Backup, when I hit run backup, where does it go and how do I restore it after I flash my new ROM. Or do I do the update.zip option and flash that when I'm doing my new ROM?
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It goes into a folder on /sdcard called TitaniumBackup. When you flash a new rom, you will need to redownload titanium backup. When you redownload it, it will find the backups and you can click on the app to restore it.
Theres no need to use the update.zip method. Do it like this ^

[Q] PLEASE HELP: Settings Application Gone

I have been doing some nandroid backups with online nandroid backup app and noticed the settings app was missing shortly after restoring desktop data from a nandroid backup using nandroid manager. Please help! This is a major inconvenience!
Wipe dalvik cache and cache and reflash your ROM and gapps.
estallings15 said:
Wipe dalvik cache and cache and reflash your ROM and gapps.
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Thanks for the response. What do you recommend I do in terms of backup? Would nandroid backup and later restore with nandroid manager app of user apps/app data work? How about my rom's settings I've worked so hard setting up?
frusso21 said:
Thanks for the response. What do you recommend I do in terms of backup? Would nandroid backup and later restore with nandroid manager app of user apps/app data work? How about my rom's settings I've worked so hard setting up?
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Make a nandroid in recovery. I always use titanium backup to restore apps. If the data for settings.apk is in your data partition it won't be touched. The other APS shouldn't be touched either. The backup will just be for good measure.
estallings15 said:
Make a nandroid in recovery. I always use titanium backup to restore apps. If the data for settings.apk is in your data partition it won't be touched. The other APS shouldn't be touched either. The backup will just be for good measure.
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Aaaaand it didn't work. Everything is the same as 10 minutes ago. Please help
ROM Update fixed this.

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