So my nexus seven was great out of the box. I was probably so excited that I didn't rly notice this to begin with but the back of it is off placed. And also there is a part of my screen that creaks when pressure is applied... So should I return and get another? If so should I call Google or Asus?
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Any pic of back you describe? Do you mean not fastened down all the way?
If it isn't actually lifted and it only creaks when you press it deliberately, that's not worth returning in my opinion.
As for the back, like darin said, it's difficult to have an opinion without seeing it. Have you popped it off and on again to see if that fixes it?
To check if your screen is lifting, which is the most likely cause of your creaking sound, hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher at any point, you'll be able to see it interrupt that silver line.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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If it isn't actually lifted and it only creaks when you press it deliberately, that's not worth returning in my opinion.
As for the back, like darin said, it's difficult to have an opinion without seeing it. Have you popped it off and on again to see if that fixes it?
To check if your screen is lifting, which is the most likely cause of your creaking sound, hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher at any point, you'll be able to see it interrupt that silver line.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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Just wondering, is that a HUGE scratch on it?
atticusmas said:
Just wondering, is that a HUGE scratch on it?
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I believe that is just a reflection
atticusmas said:
Just wondering, is that a HUGE scratch on it?
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I don't see what you're referring to, but this isn't my tablet so I wouldn't know. This was a photo uploaded by a helpful user named drewden to prove that flush screens do exist.
Really hope you're not talking about the left bezel. That's kind of the whole point of the picture.
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I don't see what you're referring to, but this isn't my tablet so I wouldn't know. This was a photo uploaded by a helpful user named drewden to prove that flush screens do exist.
Really hope you're not talking about the left bezel. That's kind of the whole point of the picture.
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Nah I believe hes talking about the thin line above the big grey side panel of the closer side of the N7.
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Nah I believe hes talking about the thin line above the big grey side panel of the closer side of the N7.
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That thin grey line is the bezel on the far side, visible above the glass.
pxlitup said:
If it isn't actually lifted and it only creaks when you press it deliberately, that's not worth returning in my opinion.
As for the back, like darin said, it's difficult to have an opinion without seeing it. Have you popped it off and on again to see if that fixes it?
To check if your screen is lifting, which is the most likely cause of your creaking sound, hold the device with the right side facing you. Look across the display and use the left bezel as a silver horizon line. If the black display is higher at any point, you'll be able to see it interrupt that silver line.
Here is an example of a perfectly flush display, looking across the device from the right side.
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That bezel seems different from my C8 model. Mine no where near is raised that much on my device. Not sure if it is the way the photo is taken or not..
Mines basically flush with just enough to feel the bezel raised.
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That thin grey line is the bezel on the far side, visible above the glass.
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There's just no way... I don't even... I assumed that they saw something I didn't.
Looking really, really closely, towards the right side of the photo, I can maybe see a faint thread of chalky white about halfway across the screen, but why would anyone mention that?
If these guys can't tell the difference between the bezel and a scratch, I'm going to plug in my DSL modem next to the bathtub and log out.
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145ty said:
That bezel seems different from my C8 model. Mine no where near is raised that much on my device. Not sure if it is the way the photo is taken or not..
Mines basically flush with just enough to feel the bezel raised.
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Are you saying that when you look across the device from the right side, like in the picture, your black display eclipses part of the thin, silver bezel on the left side?
That would mean you have at least some screen lift.
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There's just no way... I don't even... I assumed that they saw something I didn't.
Looking really, really closely, towards the right side of the photo, I can maybe see a faint thread of chalky white about halfway across the screen, but why would anyone mention that?
If these guys can't tell the difference between the bezel and a scratch, I'm going to plug in my DSL modem next to the bathtub and log out.
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Are you saying that when you look across the device from the right side, like in the picture, your black display eclipses part of the thin, silver bezel on the left side?
That would mean you have at least some screen lift.
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Pictures incoming of all four sides. Uploading now.
You can see where my minor screen lift is on the upper and left screens. By minor I mean minor.
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Pictures incoming of all four sides. Uploading now.
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Cool.
Make sure you get a decent shot of the horizon test detailed earlier. Unless your tablet is really weird, the others are less important.
Edit: I can see your entire bezel from both the right and left portrait sides -- can't tell which is which. As far as I can tell, your screen looks fine.
What makes you think that there's lift?
I am on extremely slow hotel internet.. Takes me forever to do anything. I posted the pictures above but I don't think it worked.
Hope that works this time.
Also direct link: http://imageshack.us/g/835/20120825234655.jpg/
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I am on extremely slow hotel internet.. Takes me forever to do anything. I posted the pictures above but I don't think it worked.
Hope that works this time.
Also direct link: http://imageshack.us/g/835/20120825234655.jpg/
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* Hands 145ty a micro fiber cloth*
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I still feel like there may be some confusion about what to look at from the right side.
Hopefully the OP will find this rigmarole about how to check for screen lift helpful. If none of this is applicable, I'm sorry for derailing your thread.
Once again, here is a photo taken by a user named drewd.
We're checking the left, but we're looking at the unit from the right. We're looking at the left bezel (on the far side) to see if the screen is high enough at any point to block it from our sight.
The thin, silver line of the left bezel is intact, and the perspective is low enough to be accurate.
Now, here is a low quality photo of my own second unit. I took this picture for reference during a Google Support call.
It is a very bad camera, but you should be able to see the silver line of the left bezel along most of the far side. I've drawn a circle around the general area where the screen eclipses the bezel. The perspective is higher than drewd's photo because I wasn't trying to show that my screen is flush. His angle would be more convincing for that purpose.
The lift of my second unit was indeed minor, and it turned out to be the least separated of the three units I received. In hindsight, I might have kept it, but now I wait for news that this issue has been resolved.
Hopefully this clears things up.
When there's something wrong come with the device, well, the answer is definitely YES. Just send Google an email and they will tell you everything you need to do.
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Cool.
Make sure you get a decent shot of the horizon test detailed earlier. Unless your tablet is really weird, the others are less important.
Edit: I can see your entire bezel from both the right and left portrait sides -- can't tell which is which. As far as I can tell, your screen looks fine.
What makes you think that there's lift?
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Very minor lift. You can see it on the pictures a bit, they basically look like a shadow/overcast. It is quite minimal, only reason I noticed was because of this forum. You can also tell if you do a fingernail test around the edges.
If you can even call it lift - its not over the bezel just raised a bit in comparison to the rest of the unit.
To be honest - it was a bit worse a few days ago before I tested it for squishiness and been going away with normal use.
Sure, why not replacing it? They will send you a new device and once you received it, just send your old
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is it just me or does the white text on this screen have red sticking out edges. I think I read somewhere about the pentile matrix causing it. Can someone confirm. It's a shame as the screen is great otherwise. Also when you have a white screen, it's got a green line on the left and a red on the right.
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I can confirm this. I guess it'a downside to amoled screens... Oh well. Nothing is perfect.
None of that for me. Take yours into a store and compare side by side with another to see if yours is faulty.
Actually yes there is a tiny green strip down the left. i hadn't noticed that over the past two weeks!
I guess it is just a downside, but it's a pretty big one considering how samsung bit back at steve jobs fir saying the iphone screen is better. Jobs is right by the way ip4 is much crisper. Strange that none of the reviews would mention about these red things around the text. Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity. Ib guess I must have better eyesight than these 40 something tech journalists!
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Really? I mean... REALLY, does this bother you? How close do you guys hold the screen up to your eyes? I notice this easily at 6-8 inches but seriously, when do you EVER need to hold it that close?
I am trying to see the red edge you are taking about from the xda app. The texts on this application are white with black background and vice verser.
Trying as hard as I can I couldn't see them. Are you using any screen protector? Are you sure it is not the diffraction from the protector causing this effect?
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Every review I've read before buying said this screen was amazing clarity.
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Maybe because it does? I don't think there's a review that says the SGS screen is superior to the Iphone 4. They both have their positives and negatives. I looked at the ebooks that come with the SGS and I could easily read them without any problems or strain on the eyes.
People here are so picky. This doesn't work, that doesn't look right, they should have done this instead blah blah blah. I'm I using the same phone? cause I'm enjoying mine.
I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.
No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)
Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.
*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.
OP, you're too picky. This is probaly the most perfect non-iPhone screen money could buy now. Enjoy it.
If you look VEEEEEEERY closely, you can find a fair share if impurities in the iPhone screen as well. Mostly poor uniformity of back light dispertion (although a LED screen, it's FRAME led, not local dimming)
And some bleeding in bright shades of red.
Plus, the "blacks" are tinted purple.
All those are tpyical for IPS panels, but if you don't look for them under a magnifying glass (like people are doing here with the SGS), it's very unlikely you'll even notice.
Each technology has it's advantages and disadvantages. Currently all reviews agree unanimously- The SAMOLED screen on the SGS and the iPhone 4 retina display are the two best displays out there, without a definite first place between those two.
Listen I know some of you are quick to say I'm complaining and that I'm being too picky, but I'm only reporting what I noticed to be true on my phone. I posted to see if anyone else could see thee same thing. Not once didi mention I can't live with it, but for me I can see it and I'm suprised that in all the review they haven't mentioned about the red halo around entire text, your telling me that s not a fundamental thing? Come on, fir some people being promised the latest and greatest screen this might turn out to be issue.
Just to be clear, apart v ffrom this and a few small software issues,i love this phone, so please no flaming me for digging at the sgs.
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red halo around the entire text. sounded like you have a defect on your hand. My Galaxy s have no such problem.
This is a problem with the pentile technology they use in the screen, the screen can't display white on each individual pixel, it needs to blend the colours from two pixels together to create white. This can make text quite jagged and make the white bleed slightly at the edges.
I too am a little surprised this wasn't picked up in review (although trusted reviews did pick this up) but I think this raises an important point, you need to make you're own mind up and not just rely on reviews. You wouldn't normally spend this type of money on anything thing else without using it yourself first, and its mainly the impatient ones who couldn't wait long enough to try it themselves first who then have the complaints, that's the risk you take! ps I didn't try it first, too impatient
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I can confirm this. I guess it'a downside to amoled screens... Oh well. Nothing is perfect.
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It's not a downside to amoled screens, it's a downside to samsung's proprietary pentile matrix. Pentile is not inherent to AMOLED; every other AMOLED manufacturer besides Samsung use normal RGB sub pixels.
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I can't understand why the hell people are going out of their way in such an amazing way to find stuff like this that NOBODY seems to notice even under heavy use.
No one complained about it in the nexus (nor about the green stripe/red stripe)
Yet, if you look for it- IT'S THERE. LIKE ON EVERY GODDAMN AMOLED SCREEN IN THE MARKET.
*This said, i can't see any red "outlines" on white text.
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Not on the Cowon S9/J3, Zune HD, Sony XE-1, or LG EL9500. I've taken macro pictures of my S9's screen and it is RGB.
Ok, 90% of the amoled screens floating around on the market. happy?
The vast majority of amoled screens use RGBG.
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is it just me or does the white text on this screen have red sticking out edges. I think I read somewhere about the pentile matrix causing it. Can someone confirm. It's a shame as the screen is great otherwise. Also when you have a white screen, it's got a green line on the left and a red on the right.
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I used "flashlight" application to look for the green & red lines on a white screen. I thought I might have seen the green line, but I couldn't even be sure to be honest, and there almost definitely wasn't a red line.
I looked at the text a little closer than I previously had and I felt I could see red within white text, however I didn't have a "red sticking out edges" problem. In every day use, and I use the screen primarily for reading internet articles and text messaging, I have never seen the colors within white text.
hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.
I wonder if my screen as some kind of alignment problem. I donlt even have to look that close to see it, it's a one pixel wide line down the left. and if I look to the bottom and right I see red pixels sticking out from the screen.
I realise that Pentile will make text a little jagged, but should it be this obvious?
I mean the clarity of text on this screen is very jagged compared to my Blackstone, even when I look very closely at that.
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Try taking the same picture and compare if your screen exhibit unacceptable differences, you may have a defective screen on your hand.
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hmm it odd, f I launch the google home page in the browser, I can definitely see a Green line down the right hand side.
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I can see what you're talking about, for me it's one green line down the left and a fainter red one down the right. But this is only on a white screen and when I look hard for it from about 10cm away - it's no big deal.
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Not massive bleeding but it was still there so I managed to get it swapped out today thankfully! I didn't want it getting worse. Seems this was a big problem on the Prime so why havent Asus fixed it for the Pad?
I've got a little from one edge, but not ebough to bother me. Does this get worse? I assumed it would stay as is.
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I've got a little from one edge, but not ebough to bother me. Does this get worse? I assumed it would stay as is.
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I thought over time it would get worse? My replacement model has no signs of this bleeding.
Can you even see that much light bleed during normal use? I feel like as long as I'm not looking at a black screen with nothing else close to the edge I would never notice this.
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Can you even see that much light bleed during normal use? I feel like as long as I'm not looking at a black screen with nothing else close to the edge I would never notice this.
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True but it was bugging me, I started to notice it on the Gallery (Black Screen) then on Boot Up.
Seems I spoke too soon as the sun is setting here and I just started to notice it again...rubbish. Is it a actually fault or just something I have to ignore and live with?
Not sure how your new one looks, but mine has slightly less bleed than your pics show. I don't notice it at all except during the boot screen, so I'm living with mine. but to each his own, I guess you'll have to decide whether or not its acceptable.
Judging by other people's reports, light bleed is normal with these tablets. The key is to find one with as little light bleed as possible. The first one I got had massive light bleed around all sides, especially in the lower right corner. I exchanged it because of a dead pixel, and my new one has light bleed, too, but it's only across the bottom edge and very minimal. I don't even notice it in the status bar (black and always at the bottom edge of the screen) at all during use, only during boot-up. So, I'm satisfied with my replacement's slight amount of light bleed based on the light bleed from the first one and the reports on this forum.
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Hi All,
I think it's normal that the Asus TF300 has light bleed,I got my new Asus yesterday and I have same issue.
Mine has a minimal amount of bleed at the bottom.
Only notice it during boot tho.
Not worth swapping and getting something worse.
Mine also has light bleed, but its not as bad as the first one i had.
I don't think i notice bleed so I'm fortunate.
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Hey guys, I just started to notice this on my new 32. I never noticed it on the 16 I had before this (but I wasnt looking for it either). After a lot of research it seems this is normal for IPS screens. Ive seen some pretty pad Ipads on you tube. Anyway Ive attached a picture of mine at its worse. This was while viewing a solid black jpg. Does this look like a bad case, or minimal? Ive already exchanged/ returned several tablets for different reasons so Im hoping not to need to again.
It's kind of hard to tell with the jpeg quality. It makes everything look kind of pixelated.
I'd say, though, that the top two corners look pretty bad. The bottom right corner isn't looking so hot either, but it's better than the same corner on my first TF300.
As for whether you should return it, does it bother you a lot? How often do you look at your screen when it's pure black like that? If you think you can ignore it, save yourself the hassle of another return. If it's going to ruin your tablet experience, return it, and try again.
I received mine two days ago, I immediately did the update and I never had any flickering issues.
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Not massive bleeding but it was still there so I managed to get it swapped out today thankfully! I didn't want it getting worse. Seems this was a big problem on the Prime so why havent Asus fixed it for the Pad?
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Jeepers!
That is not light bleeding, but banana bleeding. There are giant yellow swaths on the display
Seriously though, that is part of the issue with this type of tech if wanting to price for mass consumer range (for the panel volumes purchased). It gets expensive with the needed design / production specs and the substrate layer to avoid the light bleed. The tolerance in production also means some will bleed more than others. The iPad 1 had issues, but Apple were able to get better quality panels, due to economy of scale to lower cost for the better quality panels.
The Toshiba Excite appears to have even more bleed than the average 300, but the A510 has zero light bleed (reviews support this observation). Of course, most folks buying the 300 are wanting to use the keyboard, so the A510 is not an option.
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Ok, Im in the middle of a fix that I have found for the light bleed. Its actually not all that hard. Im going to write up a full how to once Im done, but just wanted to let anyone know thats interested that it is absolutely fixable.
Ive been through so many tabs I lost count. Im on my 4th TF300, so needless to say frustrated. All returned or exchanged for one reason or another. This one works great, except for the light bleed. So I got brave and decided to tear into it to see what I could do. Ill get into all the details later, but Ive attached before and after pics of one of the worst light bleed spots. The first pic just shows my whole screen in all its light bleeding glory. The second shows it after I have taken it apart, and shows one of the worst spots. Which in the lower right at notification area. The 3rd shows what it looks like after I fixed it. I have about 3 more areas Im going to work on, but wanted to let you guys see its fixable. The best thing about it is that if your careful you can do this without voiding any warranty. Theres one one sticker inside that is the kind that voids warranty if broken and its not hard to avoid.
Anyway see attached pics for my progress so far.
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Ok, Im in the middle of a fix that I have found for the light bleed. Its actually not all that hard. Im going to write up a full how to once Im done, but just wanted to let anyone know thats interested that it is absolutely fixable.
Ive been through so many tabs I lost count. Im on my 4th TF300, so needless to say frustrated. All returned or exchanged for one reason or another. This one works great, except for the light bleed. So I got brave and decided to tear into it to see what I could do. Ill get into all the details later, but Ive attached before and after pics of one of the worst light bleed spots. The first pic just shows my whole screen in all its light bleeding glory. The second shows it after I have taken it apart, and shows one of the worst spots. Which in the lower right at notification area. The 3rd shows what it looks like after I fixed it. I have about 3 more areas Im going to work on, but wanted to let you guys see its fixable. The best thing about it is that if your careful you can do this without voiding any warranty. Theres one one sticker inside that is the kind that voids warranty if broken and its not hard to avoid.
Anyway see attached pics for my progress so far.
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Let me guess you followed the thread in Prime's forum about fixing it yourself. Did you loosen the screws in the lcd? I been wanting to do this, but since I might not have the right tools I don't want to screw up the warranty. I'm going to check if the service center near my house can do this for me so it stays in warranty. I pretty much have the same light bleeds as you.
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Let me guess you followed the thread in Prime's forum about fixing it yourself. Did you loosen the screws in the lcd? I been wanting to do this, but since I might not have the right tools I don't want to screw up the warranty. I'm going to check if the service center near my house can do this for me so it stays in warranty. I pretty much have the same light bleeds as you.
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Actually no I didn't know there was a thread about it already, But that's pretty much what I'm doing. If there's a thread about it already I won't bother, I was just trying to help.
Dude I didn't mean it like that, I was really looking forward to your walkthrough since it will be 300 based. I was just asking where did you get the idea? Since I've been googling around and I found that on the Prime a couple of weeks ago. Keep doing the walkthrough please, I want to see how you did it? what tools you used? how did you avoid breaking the warranty tapes? etc.
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Dude I didn't mean it like that, I was really looking forward to your walkthrough since it will be 300 based. I was just asking where did you get the idea? Since I've been googling around and I found that on the Prime a couple of weeks ago. Keep doing the walkthrough please, I want to see how you did it? what tools you used? how did you avoid breaking the warranty tapes? etc.
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The idea came from a YouTube video that I watched, For transformer prime but the way he took apart was totally different. I'll keep trying and if I succeed I'll post a tutorial unfortunately I don't have a way of video taping but I can write a walk-through.
I've been following the z2 eagerly, ever since the first leak and i had a fear that it it no longer symmetrical, i have done alot of analyzing of pictures and videos and it to me seems like the top bezel is EVER SO SLIGHTLY thicker than the bottom meaning theres no symmetry.
I have a ocd like obsession with design and symmetry, which is why i choose the z series since the first z, it also to me sadly seeme the z2 has been more rounded than the z1 which to me is a slight dissapointment.
Second off it seems both the back glass and the metal frame has gotten a bluish hue, from what i have seen i liked the z1's gun metal grey frame i don't understand why they changed it infact more black would be nice too, other videos show it in a more premium like silver which i like alot so it is hard to judge as many videos look different.
A positive thing is that it seems they got rid of that ugly plastic strip inside the metal frame that the z1 had, it ruined the design for that phone in my opinion and i adore the design of my z1 just hated that plastic.
other than these microscopic worries the phone seems to be my absolute dream phone inside and out.
I think its the SONY branding, sensors, camera and the black stripe of the speaker bar that gives the impression of a greater bezel up top.
Can't really tell you.
if you're really obsessed with symmetry, maybe you should bring a ruler when you about to buy it later
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I think its the SONY branding, sensors, camera and the black stripe of the speaker bar that gives the impression of a greater bezel up top.
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heres the thing i took sonys official front press picture of the phone copied it put it next to the phone upside down it seems to check out
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heres the thing i took sonys official front press picture of the phone copied it put it next to the phone upside down it seems to check out
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OH Yeah..I.....can....see.........................Nah..
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OH Yeah..I.....can....see.........................Nah..
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isn't it obvious unless i am completely wrong
that the bottom one is like 0.5 mm or so longer they would be completely centered with eachother as i flipped the phone unless i am completely missing something
Looks like it is. Can't say it's a problem though. Xperia Z was the same and I only noticed it after a few days...
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isn't it obvious unless i am completely wrong
that the bottom one is like 0.5 mm or so longer they would be completely centered with eachother as i flipped the phone unless i am completely missing something
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zz, Taking a longer much closer look at your example image of the bezel , I think your right , it's very tiny difference...but it's there .
It does not really bother me though, I'm much more OCD about keeping my phone in pristine condition, so as soon as I recieve mine it will be on with a front & back screen protector and case :silly:
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zz, Taking a longer much closer look at your example image of the bezel , I think your right , it's very tiny difference...but it's there .
It does not really bother me though, I'm much more OCD about keeping my phone in pristine condition, so as soon as I recieve mine it will be on with a front & back screen protector and case :silly:
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oh this is not what i wanted to know due to my obsession
and i am ocd about EVERYTHING i spent hours yesterday looking up pictures and videos comparing them to eachother to get the right look of the frame some pictures show it with a dark like blue which is ok other show it with a purple silver like hue which to me is a little on the girly side but i need to see myself before i judge the phone is so perfect that i am nitpicking the heck out of it
the other small tiny worry is that it seems they wen't back to the blue like black glass like the original z
i liked the blue like frame on the original z so chances are i'll like z2 aswell
but WHY would they touch the already perfect z1 design they only needed to add the thinner bezels speakers and screen and get rid of that plastic the design was perfect as it was
if they even dare putting XPERIA in big letters at the front on their next flagship then i won't even bother even trying to consider that it would entirely damage the phone beyond repair for me
the z1 was so perfect but i guess i can't expect them to mae a phone after my taste the omnibalance design was almost that
edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now
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oh this is not what i wanted to know due to my obsession
and i am ocd about EVERYTHING i spent hours yesterday looking up pictures and videos comparing them to eachother to get the right look of the frame some pictures show it with a dark like blue which is ok other show it with a purple silver like hue which to me is a little on the girly side but i need to see myself before i judge the phone is so perfect that i am nitpicking the heck out of it
the other small tiny worry is that it seems they wen't back to the blue like black glass like the original z
i liked the blue like frame on the original z so chances are i'll like z2 aswell
but WHY would they touch the already perfect z1 design they only needed to add the thinner bezels speakers and screen and get rid of that plastic the design was perfect as it was
if they even dare putting XPERIA in big letters at the front on their next flagship then i won't even bother even trying to consider that it would entirely damage the phone beyond repair for me
the z1 was so perfect but i guess i can't expect them to mae a phone after my taste the omnibalance design was almost that
edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now
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But that's a good thing. Same size device, but more screen real estate
zzcool said:
edit:it all makes sense now they only reduced the bezel at the bottom not the top
which means the top bezel is the same thickness as z1
it all makes sense now
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I read that the top bezel has to be that size to fit the camera module (camera module is too large to fit behind the LCD and keep the phone thin). So it makes sense that they can't shrink it. Good investigating!
Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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Because we are tech nerds obsessing over a phone. Come join the party if you want. :highfive:
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Why are we even talking about this subject? If the bezel was bigger on one side..... who cares?
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The OP? What is the purpose of your post? OP clearly said he's obsessed with this. I answered the poll out of memory but now I see it, it really is a tiny bit out of symmetry. I will possibly do my own analysis.
To you, OP. The edges still have the plastic, its just in perfect alignment with the metal so that the curvature is perfect. This was one of my favorite improvements in the phone design.
PS. I suggest meditation and relaxation techniques for your ocd.
Hello,
I just noticed that when i tilt the screen the bottom will slowly tint, espeicially when the colour white is displayed. White will turn into a smudgy grey/yellow. The top half of the screen is still unchanged.
Can anybody relate? This is slightly annoying.
Regards
Fleischmann
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Hi,
Same here.
This displaycolor changed extremly like the position to look at it.
So its normal. For this price not acceptable in my mind.
Mine is okay whichever side i tilt it
Hi,
on my SGP611, I can also clearly notice that. I find it extremely annoying, because it's the worst when I'm looking orthogonal onto the screen. The lower half of the display (in portrait mode) tends to be a little gray/yellow tinted. This is mostly visible when reading or browsing the web, when you have a white or light gray background. On colored image it's not that much visible, would be ok for me. Also the poor viewing angles wouldn't bother me too much, if at least the color/white reproduction would be homogeneous across the whole display, when looking directly orthogonal at it. But it even fails on that. When I scroll a text page on white background from top to bottom, it looks ok at the top of the screen and then, as I scroll down it turns yellow more and more. Although, if I am tilting the tablet back a little, so that I am looking mostly from the front, the effect is less noticeable. But that is not the preferred way to hold that tab for me. I have mine for several days now and it really annoys me that much....I can't believe that wasn't mentioned in any of the reviews or in the forums before. Especially on a high priced device like this. I was already starting to believe that I've gone crazy.... 8) So I'm very glad you pointed that out. I am probably returning that thing, I've bought it for mainly reading and surfing the web, but It just hurts my eyes too much. That's a shame, as all other aspects of the device are really great and almost perfect. Maybe it's just some devices that are having the issue but the ones that I have looked at in two other stores tend to have the sames issue.
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rodi
No Problem here. I have the 16GB wifi version. No matter how i tilt the device, white remains white. Of course it gets darker the more i tilt, but no yellow or any other color is noticable at all. Maybe that means that you have defective devices and should contact your reseller about an exchange. As rodi has already mentione, no rewiew mentioned this so far, which backs up my theory of you having just bad luck.
Cheers
Chris
Glad to hear, that I'm not the only one with this problem and also that some of you don't have it. I will try to contact sony support next week.
Apart from the screen issue this thing is just perfect.
I just received my sgp612 and have the same issue. Thought my eyes were deceiving me but yes even in settings it's noticeable at the bottom half of the screen. It is annoying. I had a similar problem on my galaxy tab 3 8.0. I returned it back to amazon and got a replacement only to find out it had the same problem. Needless to say I returned that one also because it drove me crazy. Shame this has the same effect because I really want to keep this tablet.
This was the first thing I noticed after powering on the device this morning, instantly visible smudge along the bottom half of the display. This is not something I could live with so I'll likely return for another unit and try my luck...
Does anyone believe this yellow tint could be a result of glue between the LCD and glass? I know this issue was reported on various iPhone/ipad models, the Oppo Fond 7a and the Oneplus One. In all cases it was glue that was blamed. Has anyone noticed a drop in yellow with time or does anyone have a device without yellow tint?
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Hello,
I just noticed that when i tilt the screen the bottom will slowly tint, espeicially when the colour white is displayed. White will turn into a smudgy grey/yellow. The top half of the screen is still unchanged.
Can anybody relate? This is slightly annoying.
Regards
Fleischmann
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Is there any way to add a poll to this thread? I'd be interested to see how many people (if any) have a tint free display...
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Is there any way to add a poll to this thread? I'd be interested to see how many people (if any) have a tint free display...
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I would also be interested in knowing this. I will be returning mine which is a bummer because I really like this tablet. I can't keep it knowing the yellow tint is there esp. after paying a premium price.
MarvelousOne35 said:
I would also be interested in knowing this. I will be returning mine which is a bummer because I really like this tablet. I can't keep it knowing the yellow tint is there esp. after paying a premium price.
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Yea same here, I'll be calling the retailer next week to arrange a refund. I popped into my local electrical store yesterday to test one of the display models and it also had yellow tint. I think my £375 would be better spent elsewhere! Question is what alternative do I go for...
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Yea same here, I'll be calling the retailer next week to arrange a refund. I popped into my local electrical store yesterday to test one of the display models and it also had yellow tint. I think my £375 would be better spent elsewhere! Question is what alternative do I go for...
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Sad thing is my Sony Scr-28 white cover will be arriving today . Gonna be a tough decision on what to buy because outside of the yellow tint issue this is a fantastic tablet.
MarvelousOne35 said:
Sad thing is my Sony Scr-28 white cover will be arriving today . Gonna be a tough decision on what to buy because outside of the yellow tint issue this is a fantastic tablet.
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Yea I have the black style cover, I'll porbably just shift it on ebay.
I agree that, bar the dispaly, this is an exceptionally nice piece of kit. Though, to be honest there are more display issues than jsut the yellow tint which are giving me some grief. The display's contrast drops quickly at shallow viewing angles and there is a very noticable rainbow effect when viewing the display off centre too. I have used several Sony devices in the past and every time is this display which I like the least. Also the lack of a bootloader exploit for root is frustrating, I'm starting to notice how much I relied on adbock and the xposed framework.
Unfortunately I don't know enough about display technology to know exactly what is causing this yellow tint but I have heard of uncurred glue being the blame for other devices with similar faults. I would love to find out the reason!
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Hello,
I just noticed that when i tilt the screen the bottom will slowly tint, espeicially when the colour white is displayed. White will turn into a smudgy grey/yellow. The top half of the screen is still unchanged.
Can anybody relate? This is slightly annoying.
Regards
Fleischmann
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I don't have any yellow tint, overall I like the screen, the whites are excellent.
Return it
Jiyeon90 said:
I don't have any yellow tint, overall I like the screen, the whites are excellent.
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Sounds like there is some light at the end of the tunnel...
yellow tint issue still exist on sony new product? i have a xperia zl . i thought sony has solved this issue for the new phone.
I just got my replacement Z3TC from John Lewis and the yellow tint is still visible along the bottom edge. I think I'll be returning this one for a refund instead of another replacement.
Hi.
I just got my SGP611 and didn't notice any yellow tint.
Can someone post picture for reference?
Photo
Today I had time to make a photo of the screen. I let it display a comic strip, because it was easier to notice than with a plain white test image. When you compare the white of the bottom box with the one of the top box you can easily see the difference. I also cut out a small bit from the top and bottom and put it side by side.
Photo can be found here:
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For me it's very annyoing but I will keep the tablet because there is currently no alternative in the 8" tablet segment. Maybe we should contact sony about the issue?
I wouldn't say it's very easy to notice the difference. First I didn't even understand where it was.
It's more like a faint tint.
Maybe mine also have it then, will check later and update after I've checked it more thoroughly
This tablet is really amazing, I love it much more than the Z2 tablet.
I checked now as well on a comic strip, I guess there's some slight less white on the bottom of the tablet (right side when in landscape) but it's so subtle so it's really hard to notice on anything other than pure white.
I guess some screens have a stronger tint than others. I clearly remember Z1 had this issue and for my first Z1 it was pretty strong. My Z Ultra didn't have a noticeable amount, same with Z2, my Z3 seems fine as well.
But there's nothing to do about it, all phones have it. I've been with Samsung up to Note 3 and all my phones from them had yellow tint.
Just purchased s7 edge in white and to be fair I am very dissapointed with it. Light is bleeding pretty much all around the screen. It is in white finish and it just looks like the white does not cover anything at all. I understand that amoled should not bleed as ther is no edge backlight but the screen just looks horible when in bit of a dark conditions. White edges on top and bottom are basically lit up as well!
Please see this picture in pitch black on phone. Could it be faulty handset or just a white finish not covering things properly
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And another picture showing the leaks all over on white screen
I can't see what you're talking about. Either way, I don't see how an OLED screen can bleed....
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Did you purchase it on a store? or from someone? cause it might be a fake phone.
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I can't see what you're talking about. Either way, I don't see how an OLED screen can bleed....
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Well it is quite clear on pictures. The white surround of the phone does light up based on the colour of the screen to the extent that majority of white bezel is lit up with white screen on. The rainbow efect on the first pictures could be seen over the bezel itself as well which is very unusual
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Did you purchase it on a store? or from someone? cause it might be a fake phone.
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It was an upgrade from EE UK so defo not a fake.
I am just trying to work out if this is hapenning on all white s7 edges or it is just my phone and I can look for replacement.
Thanks
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It was an upgrade from EE UK so defo not a fake.
I am just trying to work out if this is hapenning on all white s7 edges or it is just my phone and I can look for replacement.
Thanks
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It happens on all s7 edges. But the white one shows it the most. It isn't really lightbleed all it is that the light from the screen is traveling through the glass.
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It happens on all s7 edges. But the white one shows it the most. It isn't really lightbleed all it is that the light from the screen is traveling through the glass.
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I understand this is happening on sides where the edge is but should not be shown on bezel on top or bottom and side bezels as well.
It doesn't happen on the gold version.
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It doesn't happen on the gold version.
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It happens slightly. I personally have the gold one and if you have you brightness set to full and have something white display you will see the light come out at the edges where the glass meets the metal frame.
Here's a picture of mine. It isn't clear but you get the idea: http://m.imgur.com/7FBGPlX
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I understand this is happening on sides where the edge is but should not be shown on bezel on top or bottom and side bezels as well.
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This problem has been present on all of the white Samsung phones which I have had.
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It happens slightly. I personally have the gold one and if you have you brightness set to full and have something white display you will see the light come out at the edges where the glass meets the metal frame.
Here's a picture of mine. It isn't clear but you get the idea: http://m.imgur.com/7FBGPlX
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This problem has been present on all of the white Samsung phones which I have had.
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Thanks for reply.
I have arranged exchange for another white one tomorrow, so we will see.
For me personally this is dealbreaker. Cannot really believe this was not reported much before for such a favourite device. Having all this gorgeous amoled screen with zero level blacks and you phone lights up like christmas tree in dark is ridiculous. Watched video side by side on my LG flex 2 and this s7 edge in darkness and the edge one is really bad with all the leakage coming from bezel. Magic of amoled is just gone for me. Hope will have better news tomorrow. Worst case scenario will have to go for dark finish one to get results I want.
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Thanks for reply.
I have arranged exchange for another white one tomorrow, so we will see.
For me personally this is dealbreaker. Cannot really believe this was not reported much before for such a favourite device. Having all this gorgeous amoled screen with zero level blacks and you phone lights up like christmas tree in dark is ridiculous. Watched video side by side on my LG flex 2 and this s7 edge in darkness and the edge one is really bad with all the leakage coming from bezel. Magic of amoled is just gone for me. Hope will have better news tomorrow. Worst case scenario will have to go for dark finish one to get results I want.
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The black s7 edge is the best looking one in my opinion. It's the one I was going to go for but the gold one was the only one which was in stock. I'd go for the black one becuase the white one will have the same issue.
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The black s7 edge is the best looking one in my opinion. It's the one I was going to go for but the gold one was the only one which was in stock. I'd go for the black one becuase the white one will have the same issue.
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You were right. Doh.
Received replacement and it is exactly same as the first one. I dont really know what to do. Really like the phone but I just can't get over the issue. I use the phone in dark quite often and black performance is very important for me, unfortunately it is just not good enough with all the leakage.
I am tempted to try the black one to see if issue will go away or possibly wait for Note 7.
I cannot really understand how people can live with this issue. Done more googling and it seems to be quite a common problem even on s6 edge. If that was apple it would be all over the web as another Applegate but Samsung is somehow protected. Weird.
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You were right. Doh.
Received replacement and it is exactly same as the first one. I dont really know what to do. Really like the phone but I just can't get over the issue. I use the phone in dark quite often and black performance is very important for me, unfortunately it is just not good enough with all the leakage.
I am tempted to try the black one to see if issue will go away or possibly wait for Note 7.
I cannot really understand how people can live with this issue. Done more googling and it seems to be quite a common problem even on s6 edge. If that was apple it would be all over the web as another Applegate but Samsung is somehow protected. Weird.
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Try the black s7 edge. The only reason which would warrant the jump to the note 7 is 2 features, the spen and iris scanner. Personally I'd keep the s7 edge because of the bigger battery. I've had every single note up until the note 5 and the spen in my case was just a showing off feature, I rarely used it. Obviously it's still your choice but I'd try the black s7 edge before jumping to the note 7.
I have the white as well , and the light leak is not a big problem for me.You can see it as a feature,like the expensive Philips led TV's with Ambilight..
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klusek said:
I have the white as well , and the light leak is not a big problem for me.You can see it as a feature,like the expensive Philips led TV's with Ambilight..
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Yes. Phillips Ambilight was first thing that came to my mind as well. Unfortunatelly it is not something I want from the phone
Received black one today.
Much better than white. Still some leaking on sides where glass meets metal but bezels covering all the light so thats good. Got mixed feelings about the phone at the moment but will see how it goes. Expected Really good baterry life but it is poor so far. Hope it will improve with few more charges. Camera is excellent. Need to get used to the samsung UI as been with LG for 4 years.