Nexus 7 vs Transformer Prime - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

OK, so I know these are 2 different form factor's but..... I have a tfp and a n7 and for some reason my n7 is soooo much better at browsing than the prime. It's so quick I just don't want to mess with the prime. They are both running cm10 so I'm a bit confused. What are your opinions or thoughts?

If you already have both and aren't needing to choose between them, why is there a vs?
Surely you are in the best position to decide that?
Speaking personally, I wouldn't go for a transformer at all. I would go for a cheaper tablet and have a small laptop/netbook and use them for different purposes.
If I had the transformer I know I would end up taking the keyboard/dock everywhere with me just in case I need/want it, therefore I may as well have a laptop.

shaneydroid said:
If you already have both and aren't needing to choose between them, why is there a vs?
Surely you are in the best position to decide that?
Speaking personally, I wouldn't go for a transformer at all. I would go for a cheaper tablet and have a small laptop/netbook and use them for different purposes.
If I had the transformer I know I would end up taking the keyboard/dock everywhere with me just in case I need/want it, therefore I may as well have a laptop.
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Well perhaps not versus but like you say I always want to take the dock and all.... then its so bulky I'm like I might as have well brought the i7 laptop. Just curious as to how many people are going for a smaller tab versus a large one.

are you using the same browser on both devices and are they both running jellybean?

Same for me have both and barely touch the prime since i got my N7. Other than comic books and magazines I use N7. Although I do read both on the N7 when I'm not home since I take it with me everywhere. 7 inch tablet is so much more convenient. And at $250 I'm not scared of it breaking or losing it like I am with my $650 prime + dock.
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slybunda said:
are you using the same browser on both devices and are they both running jellybean?
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Yea, Same.... Not sure why it seems to load faster in the n7.

Danny80y said:
Yea, Same.... Not sure why it seems to load faster in the n7.
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Try a quick search for IO bottleneck over in the prime forums.

I own both also. What you're experiencing is normal. The Prime is garbage. We got a lemon.
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Honestly, other than the dock on the prime(which makes it better for school), the n7 is better, and you can just buy a keyboard and mouse(?) for the n7 and it's basically a prime for a lot less money.

nyijedi said:
I own both also. What you're experiencing is normal. The Prime is garbage. We got a lemon.
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Well I wouldn't say lemon.... I think the prime is the only full tab I would buy at the moment..... But after playing with the n7 it's really great...well awesome for £150

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A dilemma

Well
ihave the EEE PAD tf101
i want to buy a keyboard
but today my dad offered me to buy the TF201 prime
i really dont know what to do
cause i want a laptop
but the prime is a gaming and video machine
what to do?
Take the "Prime TF201" and buy the new keyboard !!
Take the prime for sure...
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Dude, if your dad offers to buy you the prime, get the prime + keyboard. x_X, it's not just a gaming device, it's the tf101 upgraded..
forgot to mention
its 50\50
lol
here the prime costs around 700 dollars
means i pay 350
and the keyboard costs around 230 (cheap eh? haha)
and here i pay everything
edit:i wont be able to get the prime keyboard for a long time
what i think i would do is to buy the keyboard
and in the summer break ill sell the TF101 and buy the prime
what do you think bout that?
This makes no sense, what's the problem? Unless you wanted your dad to buy you a laptop then everything seems fine to me. Just sell the tf101 get the dock for the prone and call it a day. Wish I had someone buying me stuff...you bet I wouldn't be on here complaining about it... Merry Christmas.
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Well maybe all the other info would have been good in the op... Considering this new info, I would ask him to buy you a dock instead of half a prime
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Well maybe all the other info would have been good in the op... Considering this new info, I would ask him to buy you a dock instead of half a prime
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well he doesnt want to buy me the keyboard
he thinks its a waste
also my family kinda lacking money right now
so we cannot afford this right now
230$ is alot of money here
ihave around 300$
ithink ill go for the keyboard
So he'll pay 350 for the prime but not 230 for the dock... Tbh you would get more benefit from the tf1 with dock than a tf2 without... That is if you are looking for something beyond a toy. The dock really makes this tab practical for school and business use. I use it for school and business daily, without the dock it would almost be useless to me.
Tell you're dad it's not a waste, and you are trying to save him money and make your existing tablet more functional. It's the logical choice considering your needs and your financial situation... If he can't see that then you're stuck and may be the least of your problems. Good luck bud, either way it looks like you will get something.
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However, if you can sell off your tf101 for a decent price, I would say to get the tf201..
But, you said that this money isn't unnecessary fling, so I think I'd have to ask if you really need the dock at the moment. I like my dock because I can charge my tablet without connecting it to the wall, I have an actual keyboard for typing some sketches of ideas, I have a keyboard to type up random posts on threads in different forums, etc. but I don't need the keyboard for classes (because I'm a physics major, so typing notes wouldn't give me the full range of mathematical equations and ****, so a stylus has more productivity there).
So... ask yourself, do you?
well actually
the TF for me is videos gaming and surfing the web
for the guys that have it
can i surf facebook forums and stuff with the keyboard with no problems?
when you connect to keyboard the battery stays on 100% all the time until the dock battery runs out and then the battery starts to drop
or its just makes it better
it supports 3g dongle?
thanks for answering
It enhances just about everything you would need a physical keyboard to use. It will continually trickle charge the tablet until the dock reaches zero...keeping the tablet at 100%.
If you do even a little typing then the keyboard is clutch. Also if you watch a lot of movies it's great for the added battery life and that it doubles as a stand.
certain 3g dongles do work. I believe you need to root and flash a custom ROM though,I know revolver has a 3g dongle driver pack that you need to install.
Like I have said before, the keyboard is worth the cost (to me at least) personally, the only time my tab isn't docked is when its mounted in my truck... Other than that its usually docked.
I think some games allow you to use the keyboard as an input method as well, like wasd for movement and such, but I haven't looked in to that.
Merry Christmas
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theraffman said:
So he'll pay 350 for the prime but not 230 for the dock... Tbh you would get more benefit from the tf1 with dock than a tf2 without... That is if you are looking for something beyond a toy. The dock really makes this tab practical for school and business use. I use it for school and business daily, without the dock it would almost be useless to me.
Tell you're dad it's not a waste, and you are trying to save him money and make your existing tablet more functional. It's the logical choice considering your needs and your financial situation... If he can't see that then you're stuck and may be the least of your problems. Good luck bud, either way it looks like you will get something.
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How do you use yours for school? And business? I just got mine and I can't really find any use for it.
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firefox3 said:
How do you use yours for school? And business? I just got mine and I can't really find any use for it.
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Pretty simple, I take a Lot of my classes online because my business requires me to travel frequently. I access all my class forums on the tab, as well as all the chat rooms. I take notes and write papers using polaris office and submit them... again on the tab. I take all my exams on the tablet as well.
My primary form of communication for my business is email, so I do all my email from my tab or my infuse. All my project work orders come in pdf form,I use ezpdf to read and add annotations. I use intuit mobile for writing/reviewing proposals and invoices.
Doing all that with out the keyboard dock would be torture,I wouldn't even bother with the tablet and would still be using my laptop. Its amazing how much more functional the dock makes the tablet.
If you can't find a use for it then either you don't need it or you don't have any imagination or ingenuity.
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well thanks guys i got the dock today im typing from it right now
its great much more than i expecte couldnt find games that uses the keyboard but i use my 360 controller and its working great on most games
edit: another question
im on revolver and downloaded 3g pack
im trying to save APN settings but i cant any thoughts?
Hearmeman said:
well thanks guys i got the dock today im typing from it right now
its great much more than i expecte couldnt find games that uses the keyboard but i use my 360 controller and its working great on most games
edit: another question
im on revolver and downloaded 3g pack
im trying to save APN settings but i cant any thoughts?
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You should ask in the revolver thread. Also the 3g addon is a big pile of bugs, unfortunately .
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You should sell TF101 and buy TF201.Its much more than gameing or movies. With the right programs is a work computer.
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[Q] What now?

So I'm guessing there are quite a few people with ICS now (awesome) but what I'm wondering is what is everyone doing with their TF101s and TF101Gs now that they couldn't do with HC?
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Run Chrome for Android
Update:
And having a working Bookmark Sync with Chrome for desktop...
Selling it. trully something I couldn't done with HC as I was wating for ICS release to check it out by myself before I sell it.
Use a web browser without wanting to punch my tablet for loading pages so slowly.
Chrome is pretty epic and browsing is a hell of a lot smoother. I really like the landscape layout of chrome and how similar it is to the desktop version.
@mikelt89 If you don't mind me asking, why are you selling it? Upgrade? Bored of it?
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@mikelt89 If you don't mind me asking, why are you selling it? Upgrade? Bored of it?
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Need to buy a notebook for studying, the tablet was just a waste of time.
Sending it back to Asus on an RMA. I'm one of the poor fools that had their tablet go into an endless loop when I tried to bring it back from sleep after the ICS update. When I get it back I'm going to ebay it and try another brand. Two RMAs within a 6 month period (one for a dead power button, now this) has convinced me to wait for the iPad 3. I'm sure it's just the luck of the draw but every Apple product I have ever purchased has worked perfectly - the build quality of the Transformer, at least in my case, has soured me on messing with Asus any more.
finally able to actually use the browser, and now i have chrome as a bonus.
honestly, i love it even more with a couple minor exceptions. still can't play high profile 720p mkvs, and none of my custom icon/shortcut apps are working properly.
You actually thought your transformer was going to replace a laptop? I find it ironic how there were all these people kicking & screaming like spoiled little brats wanting ICS. Now it seems that every post someone is complaining about ICS.
Is ICS prefect probably not, will it ever be? Hell no, what is perfect in this world.
I think there are a couple if big improvements. File Explorer is much improved. Also now there is a task manager widget built in that can be put on your desktop.
Now I still can't do a search on XDA with the stock browser.
jadesse said:
You actually thought your transformer was going to replace a laptop?
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I'm not sure wethever this question directed to me, I think it is so I will answer.
No, not for a second, just thought it would be nice to have something different as my studying device, found out tablets are just toys to show high technology (my thought) and where their actually none usefull at all.
jadesse said:
You actually thought your transformer was going to replace a laptop? I find it ironic how there were all these people kicking & screaming like spoiled little brats wanting ICS. Now it seems that every post someone is complaining about ICS.
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I'm willing to bet that the majority of computer users could easily replace their desktop or laptop with a tablet. Unless you are using some specialized, high-end software, tablets can perform most tasks.
It's been a year since I've needed my laptop and I can use my tablets for both work and play.
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[Q] would you rather the lapdock or a tablet?

so i've had the lapdock for a while, great accessory for the atrix.
i've recently been wanting to get a tablet. so i figure if i get the tablet, then i really wouldn't have any use for the lapdock. i've been looking into getting a nook color or something that simple. i wouldn't use the tablet for much, just like i currently don't use the lapdock for much. just internet browsing, videos, and typing up document on occasion.
so, i ask you all, would you prefer a tablet... or the lapdock for our phones?
thanks, all.
Very good question. I guess it would depend on the person and situations they would need either device for. I ended up getting a tablet (ipad2). Is the lap dock smooth and lag free? Never used one.
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andrew.cambridge said:
Very good question. I guess it would depend on the person and situations they would need either device for. I ended up getting a tablet (ipad2). Is the lap dock smooth and lag free? Never used one.
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may I ask about your specific usage that made you get a tablet instead? or what made you get a tablet?
I have a Lapdock and a blackberry Playbook and both are awesome, but I use the Playbook more at home since it's easier to access than the Lapdock. But I use the Lapdock when I am not at home for doing work. So I personally use both. I actually wish I could use the Lapdock more. Lol
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Voelker45 said:
I have a Lapdock and a blackberry Playbook and both are awesome, but I use the Playbook more at home since it's easier to access than the Lapdock. But I use the Lapdock when I am not at home for doing work. So I personally use both. I actually wish I could use the Lapdock more. Lol
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how do you use it for work, if you don't mind my asking.
ifalldownalot said:
may I ask about your specific usage that made you get a tablet instead? or what made you get a tablet?
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I'm not going to have the Atrix for as long as I would have the iPad. Me and my wife use it everyday. Everything we would do on the laptop we do on the ipad, minus word documents and typing because its just silly typing papers on the iPad. So Netflix, web browsing, catching up on Conan, Amazon, just normal stuff. And depending on the tablet, it would see more software support/ be supported for longer.
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I'm not going to have the Atrix for as long as I would have the iPad. Me and my wife use it everyday. Everything we would do on the laptop we do on the ipad, minus word documents and typing because its just silly typing papers on the iPad. So Netflix, web browsing, catching up on Conan, Amazon, just normal stuff. And depending on the tablet, it would see more software support/ be supported for longer.
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Actually if you get one of those bluetooth keyboard cases, typing documents on an iPad is nice. Sold mine for Note Accessory money though
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Sinful Animosity said:
Actually if you get one of those bluetooth keyboard cases, typing documents on an iPad is nice. Sold mine for Note Accessory money though
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yep. I was planning on using the tablet (if I purchased one) with a bluetooth keyboard and using it that way.
ifalldownalot said:
how do you use it for work, if you don't mind my asking.
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I meant school work, surfing the web, documents, or work out on the go.
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Well, I do use my lapdock for "real" work. Various development in mainly C, some assembly, C# and C++.
Most is simply vpn'd back to the office. 80% of my actual work is text based development, and that I do with a terminal ssh'd home.
For the small amount of stuff that requires me to use a windoes system, I can RDE back in. Not great, but not nearly as bad as one might suspect.
Occasionally I actually do local coding. But in this case I am really just editing and using gcc as a syntax checker.
To be honest, the biggest issue I have is the STUPID KEYBOARD LAYOUT (I hope moto is reading). There was plenty of room to have a standard'iish layout.
If one does not expect to do a lot of typing though, I would think a "paddock" would be a good idea for Moto.
to be honest, I've got lapdock and I have a XOOM2 for a test.
Iwont chane my Lapdock to any talbet. why?
after mod I have a fully Ubuntu, so why I have to change? so, if you wanna to get fully useable OS than I recommend to you Lapdock. If you wanna to see how it works, please visit my youtube profile
Lapdock is way too slow for anything.
Maybe after the ICS update it might be worth a look, however I would go for a tablet with a stand such as the archos g9 and a bt keyboard for productivity.
The lapdock is a great piece of hardware that's simply no utilized well enough to be worth it.
I agree completely with alexsupreme. Lapdock is just too slow to be usable. Mine was new from AT&T in December and I bet I've used it all of 2 hours. My tablet on the other hand has many, many hours of use logged since Christmas.
$53 for the lapdock at the time sounded good, but in retrospect that was still more than it's worth.
rickwood said:
$53 for the lapdock at the time sounded good, but in retrospect that was still more than it's worth.
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Ouch! That's like an icey-hot cold pack: so cold, and yet it burns.
I bought an iconia a500, and it has almost completely displaced my laptop. Only serious typing, graphics editing are still done on my laptop (and the pr0ns work better when I don't have to hold the screen up). I was looking at getting a lapdock next time they were on sale, but your scathing analysis is probably correct.
Actually, the new webtop 3.0 shows quite a bit of promise.
Sure it's not touch operational but you get a smooth speedy interface and access to tablet apps and browser.
The lapdock might actually be useful, especially with the variety of office apps and nice tablet games and emulators that might just be more playable with a keyboard and a mouse

Anyone not happy with text render time after zooming?

In my opinion, there is too much of a delay rendering the text (focusing/unblurring it) after a zoom or scroll is made.
I say this comparing to a Tegra 2 phone, so there is no way this is slower. Even at 1.6ghz it is still awkwardly slow.
Considering this tablet is pretty much made for reading text/ web browsing that seems like a poor effort.
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Mungulz said:
In my opinion, there is too much of a delay rendering the text (focusing/unblurring it) after a zoom or scroll is made.
I say this comparing to a Tegra 2 phone, so there is no way this is slower. Even at 1.6ghz it is still awkwardly slow.
Considering this tablet is pretty much made for reading text/ web browsing that seems like a poor effort.
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Get over it, or try a new app. Or RMA it like everyone else over the slightest thing. I swear if people cared as much about how their countries were run as they do over this stuff, the world would be much better.
commonsense. said:
Get over it, or try a new app. Or RMA it like everyone else over the slightest thing. I swear if people cared as much about how their countries were run as they do over this stuff, the world would be much better.
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Cool, I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand I paid money for a device I expect to function in a proper manner.
I'm not being unreasonable, I have a Tegra 2 phone, as I said. There is no way that a Tegra 3 tablet should be any slower (significantly).
I also have no idea if other people are experiencing it or not, or maybe there's a fix I don't know about? Your trolling isn't helping anyone.
If I was given the tablet for free, of course I wouldn't be complaining, as it stands now though, a product I paid money for is not working as I would expect it to.
Mungulz said:
Cool, I see where you're coming from, but on the other hand I paid money for a device I expect to function in a proper manner.
I'm not being unreasonable, I have a Tegra 2 phone, as I said. There is no way that a Tegra 3 tablet should be any slower (significantly).
I also have no idea if other people are experiencing it or not, or maybe there's a fix I don't know about? Your trolling isn't helping anyone.
If I was given the tablet for free, of course I wouldn't be complaining, as it stands now though, a product I paid money for is not working as I would expect it to.
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Moonreader renders fast for PDF files etc, and I see no problems using dolphin browser. Try switching apps or power settings.
A lot of apps need to be updated to work well with the new OS release as well don't forget, or this tablet specifically.
It is probably the app your using and whether the text is local or online like a website.
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player911 said:
It is probably the app your using and whether the text is local or online like a website.
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I mean in chrome. Sorry for not making that clear.
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Yeah I feel you on that, seems to render it a little slow. On my iPhone it seems as if everything renders at once and when I zoom in its already there, wonder if the nexus does/tries to do something similar. Books read fine, its the chrome zoom that messes up on me too.
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[Q] Still have universal search?

Hey folks! After searching I found nothing, so here we go!
I am still considering buying a nexus 7, but something has been prying on my mind: when Google removed the universal search from the galaxy nexus, did they also remove it from the nexus 7? I had a galaxy tab 2 that Samsung did this to, and was kinda a bummer since I really like the feature! So does the nexus 7 have universal (I.e. being able to search on-device as well as internet) search?
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Nope, it's here, at least in cm10 that is. Nice to see you here ijimaniac . Buy this tablet, you won't regret it. My TF has become a glorified gaming console since I got this (as I don't have enough space on the N7 to keep a ton of games), and although I had to originally RMA it (and got a b60 while before I had a b70, go figure) due to light bleed, this tab is amazing, and I am normally pretty judicial when it comes to devices.
I can confirm that my stock 4.1.1 Nexus 7 does indeed have universal search functioning properly.
It sure does, it works differently though. It shows your Apps, then you swipe across and it shows you web results, then another swipe will bring up, for example, videos etc. So it doesn't show them all at the same time.
It still shows contacts and things from other apps which is the most useful part.
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Nope, it's here, at least in cm10 that is. Nice to see you here ijimaniac . Buy this tablet, you won't regret it. My TF has become a glorified gaming console since I got this (as I don't have enough space on the N7 to keep a ton of games), and although I had to originally RMA it (and got a b60 while before I had a b70, go figure) due to light bleed, this tab is amazing, and I am normally pretty judicial when it comes to devices.
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Hey han, thanks! Weird that the one question I ask in the n7 thread is answered by a galaxy player comrade.
Thanks every one for answering!
I'll probably be joining you all on the n7 as soon as I can!
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Hey han, thanks! Weird that the one question I ask in the n7 thread is answered by a galaxy player comrade.
Thanks every one for answering!
I'll probably be joining you all on the n7 as soon as I can!
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Happy to help, the one day I decide to peruse the N7 q/a (SUPER bored this Saturday and just crashing), and I found you. Good luck with the nexus, you won't regret it,
If you are still deliberating I cN recent getting one. Sooooooo good in every way. hardware is very impressive. Build quality, and and user experience. I usually root and unlock every android device I get as I'm used to the rom being uncomfortably laggy. this usually results in life long rom flashing back and forth from different roms never really feeling happy.
This just isn't the case with theN7 the rom is smooth fast and responsive even when hammering several big operations.
Pretty much what in getting at is that you need to go buy one if you haven't already
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