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Samsungs Evolution begins 2/13.

So Samsung's bragging again that it's going to introduce a "evolution" and in the picture its the Galaxy S and then a white blog signifying it's "masterpiece" that it hopes to unveil on Feb. 13. Speculation seems to point at it's possibly them actually showing off the Vibrant 4G or another device.
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
Take a read,
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/samsung-to-introduce-the-next-evolution-of-the-galaxy-s-on-february-13-but-will-they-ever-update-it/

presence06 said:
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!

I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date

TopShelf10 said:
Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..

presence06 said:
Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.

I understand they can't just release a phone and wait 2 years to release another one. But ( I guess I cut the ending short) they need to work on supporting what they have out now along side what they push out in the future. It's sad that the cell phone business has taken on Apples take of things. Make a new device, sells millions. A year later push out the same phone but with "enhancements" and newer things. Wait another year and do the same thing, and then drop support for the original after the 2nd one comes out..

TopShelf10 said:
no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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megatherian said:
I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Unfortunately as soon as Samsung announced a phone with 4.3" SuperAMOLED+ screen and a Tegra2-beating Orion SOC, everyone who were complaining about the Android updates will secretly be counting their savings so that they can get the latest and the greatest hardware. Such is the way of phone upgraditis.

iwillkillyou said:
Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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You spelled "whiny" wrong....

iwillkillyou said:
Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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im a whiney little ***** haha......have you spent any time in the general section??? nothing but whining lately. what makes me any different?? because i go against the majority, which makes me an easy target??? take a nap dude. at least i make points and contribute to the debate, i dont think ive seen you make one yet. youjustkillpeople apparently

You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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iwillkillyou said:
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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since the beginning?? i started my *****-thread on monday.....this class-action/fck samsung/lack of froyo crap has been going on for weeks....pleasedontkillme, thats all i ask
back up your accusations dude

Samsung sucks yo.
EDIT: NVM..

Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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Dan_Brutal said:
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.......AND SAMSUNG STILL HASNT UPDATED ME TO VERSION 65.32.9!!!! I HATE SAMSUNG. lets start a class action lawsuit!!! hell no, we wont go! hell no, we wont go!!!!!
apparently we are the neglected orphans of the smartphone world. its only us. its only samsung. wowowowow.....it is so much fun to sit here at work, and just wonder how miserable it must be to invest so much emotion into the OS of your phone (which you can get in a custom ROM anyway)
you knwo what would solve all of these problems?? TRADE BLAKE WHEELER

TopShelf10 said:
no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.

golmar88 said:
Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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dude ive been saying this for the past two days, and these weenies just flame me because i challenge their little cause......i think this post says it all:
-Originally Posted by TopShelf10-
So ignorant to the fast-growing industry of the cell phone. Name one combination of user-devicemodel-OSprovider-Manufacturer-NetworkProvider that is flawless. You roam around the internet you will find people complaining about these kinds of things eeeeverywhere. Lack of updates, lack of device support, lack of customer loyalty, unkept promises, hardware/software issues, blahblahblahhhhHHHhHHhHHHhhhHH
Nowadays, smartphones are outdated/obsolete within 6months of their release. Yes, indeed, its a monster that the manufacturers have created for themselves, and theres no way they can keep up with their competition while also keeping every single one of you crying babies happy. Yes, its an ugly industry, and it isnt fair. BUT ITS THE WAY IT IS.
*****, moan, *****, moan, *****, moan alllllll you want. File your class action lawsuits, spam their customer service lines, create facebook pages and twitter accounts, start petitions. do you think its going to change ANYTHING?? do you think its just THAT easy? you guys just sound so damn pathetic with all of your bellyaching.
Youre on a forum that is meant for modding your device, and making it better than the way it came out of the box, yet you are complaining that they wont do it for you. Then why are you guys even here??? No device is perfect. And when the day comes that they do release a perfect device, they will release an even more perfect device shortly after....thus making the prior one not perfect, and people *****ing for updates on their old ones to make it as good as the new one. Round-and-round we go.
Consumers will NEVER be happy, and you guys are proving that. Do some research before buying a damn phone next time. Dont buy it right when its released just because its the hottest thing, and having the phone that is on all the commercials gives you a sense of purpose. Maybe next time wait a couple months, come onto XDA, and see if the children are whining about the damn GPS. That would be a tell-tale warning, wouldnt you say? Then Samsung wont have your money, youll still have your upgrade to play with, and you wont be stuck with a device that didnt get sharted from god's ass. Problem solved.

To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.

glfpunk said:
To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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if i didnt use all of my 5 "thanks" for the day, id thank you......um......thank you

TopShelf10 said:
oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.....
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Lmfao. That **** cracks me up. Got Nos on that *****?
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SamsungJohn

Wasn't he supposed to make some kind of announcement on Monday according to his thread? Thought something was in the works and was hoping for more since the other thread got closed.

He did say that and I've been watching all day for this "announcement"
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good things come to those who wait.. just chill

Just hoping he didn't get banned from posting since the thread got closed by a Senior moderator. Thats all, I'm not impatient, but really excited to hear what he has to say.

All threads in all forums (not just Epic's) by John were locked by 'upper management' so to speak with XDA, so I'm guessing they didn't like the initial approach of things for whatever reason. I PM'ed him earlier today myself and asked about it for curiosity's sake and he said 'we' were in talks with XDA and he hoped to be able to post some details again soon in a new thread. Without being privy to the particulars of all that, my guess is that they'd prefer him be isolated to some higher level 'general' XDA forum and all interaction/feedback occur in one central thread than have a separate thread with every device of theirs. But that's purely a guess on my part.

Lol don't hold your breath
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PythonFanTN said:
All threads in all forums (not just Epic's) by John were locked by 'upper management' so to speak with XDA, so I'm guessing they didn't like the initial approach of things for whatever reason. I PM'ed him earlier today myself and asked about it for curiosity's sake and he said 'we' were in talks with XDA and he hoped to be able to post some details again soon in a new thread. Without being privy to the particulars of all that, my guess is that they'd prefer him be isolated to some higher level 'general' XDA forum and all interaction/feedback occur in one central thread than have a separate thread with every device of theirs. But that's purely a guess on my part.
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I dont want to believe this, but it makes me wonder.
His last activity was 6:49 today, so I doubt he is gonna make any post regarding what he promised.

He's got 4 hours until its no longer Monday. He is in Texas, so its around 8PM there now. I sure hope "politics" doesn't get in the way of him making his announcement or whatever.

Did anyone really think that this was going to turn into something great? I mean really? Samsungs track record for putting customers first has been proven time and time again, long before the galaxy line and long before cell phones. Not only that, look at XDA from the eyes and view of a large corporation such as Samsung... not just from the view of a dev, themer, consumer. If you've ever worked for a larger corporation/company who's main priority is profit and remaiming current and ahead of the competition you probably understand. One main priority is keeping products and control over those products within your reach, not within the reach of the consumer.
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chino0131 said:
Did anyone really think that this was going to turn into something great? I mean really? Samsungs track record for putting customers first has been proven time and time again, long before the galaxy line and long before cell phones. Not only that, look at XDA from the eyes and view of a large corporation such as Samsung... not just from the view of a dev, themer, consumer. If you've ever worked for a larger corporation/company who's main priority is profit and remaiming current and ahead of the competition you probably understand. One main priority is keeping products and control over those products within your reach, not within the reach of the consumer.
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No one expects anything good from Samsung. We can at least hold on to a little bit of hope that they may change though. From MWC:
"Samsung did make a promise about upgrades, though, with reps saying that the ongoing disaster involving upgrading the current Galaxy S line to Android 2.2 "will never happen again.""
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There is a small chance that they get it.

Oh how I wish for an announcement of any kind.
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flopez76 said:
Oh how I wish for an announcement of any kind.
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It will happen in the near future... sprint and samsungjohn will be updated by Q4 of 2011... they are working dilligently to bring 2.2 asap...blah...blah.......blah

muyoso said:
No one expects anything good from Samsung. We can at least hold on to a little bit of hope that they may change though. From MWC:
There is a small chance that they get it.
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Hope I get. Acting like Samsung John was the next coming of Christ is another thing (again, not just on the Epic forums). I was hopeful as well that Samsung would get it, but the Epic is soon to be old news, to me at least.
And yes, I'm sure samsung gets it. NOW they get it. I take that to mean they won't make the same mistakes on the SG2 line that they made on our phones.
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Guys, please keep it civil. I know it's frustrating but if you need to rant just chill for a bit.
All this bickering isn't helping anybody.
Darkk

Its another disappointment from Samsung and John we got used to that story. It seems like there is a big problem epic and froyo getting along so they want some help from xda dev cuz sprint can't get their things together and who knows the deal is already made.
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Samsung did make a promise about upgrades, though, with reps saying that the ongoing disaster involving upgrading the current Galaxy S line to Android 2.2 "will never happen again.
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Sounds like a sucker move to me. They say it wont happen again to suck you into buying a a new phone with the same support, only to drop support for the last line of devices. Not buying it Mr Samsung.
As soon as another competitor has a device that has even within reasonable specs at the same time of launch, they are gonna notice why their failure has come to a reality with their next device release.

Lol.
Yano, the cynic in me, as I'm sure is true with some other people, (and I hope its not lost on those people either) believes his lack of a post today is intentional. Remember, he is a social media "analyst". Looking for what type of reactions he would get for breaking such a small "promise" sounds like a pretty good barometer to gauge just how accurate the "mass feelings of resentment" for samsung for not getting us an update sooner is.
Do believe he's the real deal? Yes, and I'm confident he will post with his details later. But I'm pretty sure he's holding off just to watch us, and see how much we hold people to verbal commitments.
We're all lab rats.
But that's just the cynic in me talkin
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He is holding out for sexual favors.

lazydazed said:
It will happen in the near future... sprint and samsungjohn will be updated by Q4 of 2011... they are working dilligently to bring 2.2 asap...blah...blah.......blah
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LOL! Beautiful.

Jayavarman said:
He is holding out for sexual favors.
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Ok.....ill take one for the team

[The Petition]**We Need Your Support**

As Galaxy S owners, we are all united. As Android users we are all united. As far as Samsung is concerned we are all NOT created equal. Our device, the Vibrant (SGH-T959), is now being left to the wayside for any future updates from Samsung even though our core specs are extremely similar to the Google Nexus S, which has already received the ICS update. The CyanogenMod team has left us due to the on-going issue of 911/e911 and the lack of the proper code from Samsung to alleviate a potentially fatal result of a custom ROM. It is our intentions to serve Samsung with a petition asking for the update to ICS, which will in-turn, alleviate the 911/e911 issue as well.
We are asking all Galaxy S users to sign this petition to get Samsung to reconsider giving all top end Galaxy S devices the ICS update. Please help us with our goal and sign the petition. If you are on a Galaxy S phone, this affects you too.
Thank you for reading this and please see this link for more details and this link to sign the petition.

I signed lol
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Great Idea - of course I signed, too

Me too, if GS is not updated ICS, i never buy SS phone again.

Samsung have a very good reason to not update the device.
Begging them for the impossible is a waste of time.
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dario3040 said:
Samsung have a very good reason to not update the device.
Begging them for the impossible is a waste of time.
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People like you should shout up if they don't know what they talking about.

saphirrot said:
People like you should shout up if they don't know what they talking about.
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People like you SHOULD SHUT up instead of SHOUTING in language which they don't understand...

If you don't want to support this petition, why post in it? We've heard it many times, blahblahblah Samsung won't do anything, and if that's so.. then oh well, at least we tried. Thanks for the support everyone!

dario3040 said:
Samsung have a very good reason to not update the device.
Begging them for the impossible is a waste of time.
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I disagree.
We, the consumers, have a voice. Yeah sure they have our money but what they DON'T want is bad publicity. If they get that the people who HAVEN'T bought their phones won't, and the people who know whats going on won't. Thats a big population that will not be buying their products. If you don't know what #neveragain was it was a twitter petition started by one of our fellow Vibrant users. Vibrant was denied Froyo, and so we started that and it showed up EVERYWHERE. and Samsung granted us Froyo.
I would also like to know your "very good reason" that Samsung has to not update the devices.
ICS can run smooth on our phones, we have a stable build of ICS on our forums.
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People like you should shout up if they don't know what they talking about.
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Please don't start a argument, posts like these will only lead to failure in this thread. If people do not wish to sign, i'm cool with that, but I just want to point out that EVERY SIGN MATTERS.

Agreed. People do have a voice. In the words of Ghandi...
First they ignore you . . . then they laugh at you . . . then they fight you . . . then you win.
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I sign to.
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I signed

I signed to

Thank you all for your support with this. We need solidarity and our fellow GSes are coming through. Keep signing.

I signed
unhappy user of samsung

I'm an i9000 user and signed for vibrant bros for cyanogenmod support.
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burakgon said:
I'm an i9000 user and signed for vibrant bros for cyanogenmod support.
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Don't worry fellow Galaxy User, this is not just for Vibrant users. This is for the entire Galaxy S series.
Spread the word, and thanks again for the signs guys.

I feel discriminated. Your petition did not mention the other galaxy s models like S PLUS (i9001).
Son, i am dissapoint.
I will sign this only if you add i9001 there aswell.

Links to Samsung Twitter/Facebook/Google+:
Twitter:
- twitter.com/samsungtweets
- twitter.com/samsungmobileus
- https://twitter.com/SamsungJohn
- https://twitter.com/DigitalTrends
Facebook:
- www.facebook.com/SamsungUSA
- www.facebook.com/SamsungMobileUSA
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- https://plus.google.com/114303379611712597260/posts

kellermanv said:
I feel discriminated. Your petition did not mention the other galaxy s models like S PLUS (i9001).
Son, i am dissapoint.
I will sign this only if you add i9001 there aswell.
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Plus is different.
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Amazon review says US unlocked phones won't be getting ICS.

I have no idea about the validity of this. I ordered the very phone that this review is for. Any thoughts?
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2TREU...eless&cdThread=Tx1ZKNEJXC5OB01#wasThisHelpful

As long as it is indeed a n7000 u can get the official rom updates here and the awsome roms from the devs. I am using a german note with hk rom and getting hk rom updates via kies . No problem at all.
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That review is not correct.
I just received that exact phone last week, from Amazon. Each Galaxy Note has a region code to indicate where it came from (Mine was from the UAE). This code can be changed to any region you want. This will allow for a stock upgrade to ICS, when it comes out.
Also, just like the previous poster said, you can root and put any rom you want on your Note.
I am running the stock ICS beta, from January. For me, it is awesome. I am running at 213 DPI which gives me the tablet mode look.

tanman21 said:
I am running the stock ICS beta, from January. For me, it is awesome. I am running at 213 DPI which gives me the tablet mode look.
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I'm sorry, did you say a stock ICS beta from January? For Note? From Samsung? Or did you mean the trial build of CM9?

Sorry, I meant the cm9 beta.

"Amazon review says" I wouldve stop taking it serious there. Dont believe everything you read on the internet.

intruda119 said:
Dont believe everything you read on the internet.
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I live by that advice, which is why I take what you say with a grain of salt as well.

jklitten said:
I live by that advice, which is why I take what you say with a grain of salt as well.
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Rofl
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jklitten said:
I live by that advice, which is why I take what you say with a grain of salt as well.
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So you believe misinformation from an Amazon review, but don't believe the people in the forum where you posted asking if it were true? Makes sense.

Most devs go to the Amazon review page so everyone knows the truth about phone updates
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I have no idea about the validity of this. I ordered the very phone that this review is for. Any thoughts?
http://www.amazon.com/review/R2TREU...eless&cdThread=Tx1ZKNEJXC5OB01#wasThisHelpful
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So you don't believe everything you read on the internet but you have a question about someone who "came to the conclusion " that Samsung won't update the Note? Are you serious?
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dwboston said:
So you believe misinformation from an Amazon review, but don't believe the people in the forum where you posted asking if it were true? Makes sense.
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So you don't believe everything you read on the internet but you have a question about someone who "came to the conclusion " that Samsung won't update the Note? Are you serious?
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I never believed the Amazon review, but I never discredited it either. I asked you smart people here at xda what you thought so I could make an educated decision of my own. I trust you guys more than an Amazon review, but trust my final conclusion more than either.

jklitten said:
I never believed the Amazon review, but I never discredited it either. I asked you smart people here at xda what you thought so I could make an educated decision of my own. I trust you guys more than an Amazon review, but trust my final conclusion more than either.
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So you neither discredit nor credit what is posted on xda and Amazon reviews nor do you place credibility on the opinions or facts of those places above what you personally believe which is based off the things you read which may or may not have any significant validity as to its claims, which is still eclipsed by the fact that you take everything with "a grain of salt" that is on the internet, which is the place you have come to with a question seeking an answer.
I think you should meet with an authority figure who you can't discredit, in person (to eliminate the internet factor), so you can get the facts.
I know the perfect person, he can be found in a mirror.
P.S. stay free

It'll get updated to ICS. Don't worry. But it will be layered with TouchWiz. In this year, Samsung will not be stupid enough to cut the cord on a 3 month old device. That would be pure suicide. The PR nightmare.

Basically true. My conclusions is derived from all the information I've gathered with consideration of credibility of the various sources.
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Here is why lollipop is delayed for the note4

Here's why 5.0 is delayed
http://www.talkandroid.com/235228-s...alaxy-note-4-not-having-android-5-0-lollipop/
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Man when Samsung shoots itself in the foot it really makes sure to use an AK47 and shoot the crap out of it.

So you are saying the next build will be ANK47.

And remember...that is just the international version...US Carriers will still be weeks or more behind that release.

assuming the person who wrote that article even knows what he is talking about; I didn't see any mention of an "official Samsung announcement"..

Not true already been comfirm by sources that this is incorrect infor, they stated that oculo does not get to modify the kernel let alone deleyed an updat. Also mant samsung reps stated we dhould receive lollipop this week.. multiple reps. Do thats a better jope.

O welll. Done waiting for It anyways. I'm rooting my device as soon as I can. Screw you lollipop. I would rather have my gear vr function properly than to have 5.0

Well I dont know about you peeps but I am actually buying the Oculus, so this delay doesnt quiet bother me, especially considering cm12 is running pretty well.

This delay has nothing to do with oculus why dont you guys do research before posting. Just another thread to get people the wrong idea to their heads..

egren58 said:
This delay has nothing to do with oculus why dont you guys do research before posting. Just another thread to get people the wrong idea to their heads..
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OK then, O wise one and elightened one. Please explain to us mere mortals why there is a delay. Forsooth, our puny brains connot comprehend the immense unimaginable contrivances of android deliverance.
I henceforth pledge my undying devotion to you. We will build thee a Church to reach unto the very stars themselves. Where you shall hand down the wisdom, nay, the WORD of all things android.
Blessed be.
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Temetka said:
OK then, O wise one and elightened one. Please explain to us mere mortals why there is a delay. Forsooth, our puny brains connot comprehend the immense unimaginable contrivances of android deliverance.
I henceforth pledge my undying devotion to you. We will build thee a Church to reach unto the very stars themselves. Where you shall hand down the wisdom, nay, the WORD of all things android.
Blessed be.
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Wow the craziness in this thread runs deep
Actually one of the head guys over at Oculus said on Twitter that this isn't true and they don't have the update and are not the cause of any "delays"

Your sarcasm o meter must need calibration.
But for sources:
http://au.ibtimes.com/android-50-lollipop-update-galaxy-note-4-delayed-further-1417052
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...e-delayed-due-to-Gear-VR-Compatibility-issues
Plus the one in the OP.
If anyone has sources stating otherwise, please post them.

They see me trollin' they hatin'...
Those aren't sources of anything, those are blogs and IBTimes is pretend news that anyone can publish. Maybe I should write a blog and post fake news too.
Believe it or not, not everything on the internet is fact, regardless of the blog that you read.

Temetka said:
OK then, O wise one and elightened one. Please explain to us mere mortals why there is a delay. Forsooth, our puny brains connot comprehend the immense unimaginable contrivances of android deliverance.
I henceforth pledge my undying devotion to you. We will build thee a Church to reach unto the very stars themselves. Where you shall hand down the wisdom, nay, the WORD of all things android.
Blessed be.
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Do some research... "smart one"..
Never said i knew why it was delayed but i said nor Cuz of this vr shii.... here is your proof since you couldn't do a search, you think Samsung would let some one with no experience with cellphone tweak their kernal?..
https://mobile.twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/561652982987915264

Who cares. It not delayed it going as planed.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

agreed; Samsung never gave a specific date that they guaranteed this would be released to any of the US carriers..
reading/believe any thing on the internet just leads to false hope and disappointment, so my advice it to pay ZERO attention to anything you read about it on the internet, and if you want Lollipop so badly, there are several nice AOSP roms in the forums that will satisfy that craving for now.

Temetka said:
Your sarcasm o meter must need calibration.
But for sources:
http://au.ibtimes.com/android-50-lollipop-update-galaxy-note-4-delayed-further-1417052
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...e-delayed-due-to-Gear-VR-Compatibility-issues
Plus the one in the OP.
If anyone has sources stating otherwise, please post them.
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Right below me... I was mobile yesterday and could find the link, but this good sir did
egren58 said:
https://mobile.twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/561652982987915264
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You know, I bet this VR thing isn't even going to be a big seller, but because of it, we got stuck waiting for this update. Go figure..........

I was wrong. See that was hard.
Curious though as to why a site like sammobile would report that. So I'll go back to my original theory. 5.0 is ready and is in the hands of carriers who ate busy mucking it up.
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Temetka said:
I was wrong. See that was hard.
Curious though as to why a site like sammobile would report that. So I'll go back to my original theory. 5.0 is ready and is in the hands of carriers who ate busy mucking it up.
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thats likely the case, so whoever adds the least bloat,(TMO) should have it out first, but who knows when that will be.