Wasn't he supposed to make some kind of announcement on Monday according to his thread? Thought something was in the works and was hoping for more since the other thread got closed.
He did say that and I've been watching all day for this "announcement"
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good things come to those who wait.. just chill
Just hoping he didn't get banned from posting since the thread got closed by a Senior moderator. Thats all, I'm not impatient, but really excited to hear what he has to say.
All threads in all forums (not just Epic's) by John were locked by 'upper management' so to speak with XDA, so I'm guessing they didn't like the initial approach of things for whatever reason. I PM'ed him earlier today myself and asked about it for curiosity's sake and he said 'we' were in talks with XDA and he hoped to be able to post some details again soon in a new thread. Without being privy to the particulars of all that, my guess is that they'd prefer him be isolated to some higher level 'general' XDA forum and all interaction/feedback occur in one central thread than have a separate thread with every device of theirs. But that's purely a guess on my part.
Lol don't hold your breath
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All threads in all forums (not just Epic's) by John were locked by 'upper management' so to speak with XDA, so I'm guessing they didn't like the initial approach of things for whatever reason. I PM'ed him earlier today myself and asked about it for curiosity's sake and he said 'we' were in talks with XDA and he hoped to be able to post some details again soon in a new thread. Without being privy to the particulars of all that, my guess is that they'd prefer him be isolated to some higher level 'general' XDA forum and all interaction/feedback occur in one central thread than have a separate thread with every device of theirs. But that's purely a guess on my part.
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I dont want to believe this, but it makes me wonder.
His last activity was 6:49 today, so I doubt he is gonna make any post regarding what he promised.
He's got 4 hours until its no longer Monday. He is in Texas, so its around 8PM there now. I sure hope "politics" doesn't get in the way of him making his announcement or whatever.
Did anyone really think that this was going to turn into something great? I mean really? Samsungs track record for putting customers first has been proven time and time again, long before the galaxy line and long before cell phones. Not only that, look at XDA from the eyes and view of a large corporation such as Samsung... not just from the view of a dev, themer, consumer. If you've ever worked for a larger corporation/company who's main priority is profit and remaiming current and ahead of the competition you probably understand. One main priority is keeping products and control over those products within your reach, not within the reach of the consumer.
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Did anyone really think that this was going to turn into something great? I mean really? Samsungs track record for putting customers first has been proven time and time again, long before the galaxy line and long before cell phones. Not only that, look at XDA from the eyes and view of a large corporation such as Samsung... not just from the view of a dev, themer, consumer. If you've ever worked for a larger corporation/company who's main priority is profit and remaiming current and ahead of the competition you probably understand. One main priority is keeping products and control over those products within your reach, not within the reach of the consumer.
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No one expects anything good from Samsung. We can at least hold on to a little bit of hope that they may change though. From MWC:
"Samsung did make a promise about upgrades, though, with reps saying that the ongoing disaster involving upgrading the current Galaxy S line to Android 2.2 "will never happen again.""
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There is a small chance that they get it.
Oh how I wish for an announcement of any kind.
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Oh how I wish for an announcement of any kind.
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It will happen in the near future... sprint and samsungjohn will be updated by Q4 of 2011... they are working dilligently to bring 2.2 asap...blah...blah.......blah
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No one expects anything good from Samsung. We can at least hold on to a little bit of hope that they may change though. From MWC:
There is a small chance that they get it.
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Hope I get. Acting like Samsung John was the next coming of Christ is another thing (again, not just on the Epic forums). I was hopeful as well that Samsung would get it, but the Epic is soon to be old news, to me at least.
And yes, I'm sure samsung gets it. NOW they get it. I take that to mean they won't make the same mistakes on the SG2 line that they made on our phones.
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Guys, please keep it civil. I know it's frustrating but if you need to rant just chill for a bit.
All this bickering isn't helping anybody.
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Its another disappointment from Samsung and John we got used to that story. It seems like there is a big problem epic and froyo getting along so they want some help from xda dev cuz sprint can't get their things together and who knows the deal is already made.
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Samsung did make a promise about upgrades, though, with reps saying that the ongoing disaster involving upgrading the current Galaxy S line to Android 2.2 "will never happen again.
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Sounds like a sucker move to me. They say it wont happen again to suck you into buying a a new phone with the same support, only to drop support for the last line of devices. Not buying it Mr Samsung.
As soon as another competitor has a device that has even within reasonable specs at the same time of launch, they are gonna notice why their failure has come to a reality with their next device release.
Lol.
Yano, the cynic in me, as I'm sure is true with some other people, (and I hope its not lost on those people either) believes his lack of a post today is intentional. Remember, he is a social media "analyst". Looking for what type of reactions he would get for breaking such a small "promise" sounds like a pretty good barometer to gauge just how accurate the "mass feelings of resentment" for samsung for not getting us an update sooner is.
Do believe he's the real deal? Yes, and I'm confident he will post with his details later. But I'm pretty sure he's holding off just to watch us, and see how much we hold people to verbal commitments.
We're all lab rats.
But that's just the cynic in me talkin
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He is holding out for sexual favors.
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It will happen in the near future... sprint and samsungjohn will be updated by Q4 of 2011... they are working dilligently to bring 2.2 asap...blah...blah.......blah
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LOL! Beautiful.
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He is holding out for sexual favors.
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Ok.....ill take one for the team
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UPDATE: Someone has had a hands on with the phone, it's REAL! It's a Samsung Galazy S running stock Android!
SOURCE
boy you just love jumping the gun after reading half the story huh? second topic in one day, ouch.
http://androidspin.com/2010/10/28/debunking-the-nexus-s/
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/10/28/samsung-announcing-the-nexus-two-on-november-8th/ (read the update at the top)
Thanks for cluttering the boards with more useless crap.
No chance in hell. I think it'll be the dual screen phone.
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It's going to be a Windows 7 phone for sure. Heard it from Microsoft.
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I did say rumored...and besides, you have sources saying one thing, I found some saying others...what makes what I said crap and not what you said crap?
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First of all anything from "an anonymous tipster" has no place being considered as legitimate, even for a rumor. Second, there have been three Android Dev Phones, the ADP1, ADP2, and the Nexus 1. All three of these phones have been manufactured by HTC. Why would they change now? Third, anyone who is keeping up with android news knows the Samsung Continuum is Samsung's next android phone, and it hasn't been announced yet. Also if look at the picture on the event invitation it shows Android icons on top of a stock ticker, one of the callout features of the continuum second screen. Even if i'm wrong about them announcing the continuum Nov. 8'th (which I very well may be) I know that i'm not wrong about them NOT announcing this Nexus 2 or Nexus S or whatever the believers want to call it. The CEO is more likely to get up on stage and poop a unicorn.
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First of all anything from "an anonymous tipster" has no place being considered as legitimate, even for a rumor. Second, there have been three Android Dev Phones, the ADP1, ADP2, and the Nexus 1. All three of these phones have been manufactured by HTC. Why would they change now? Third, anyone who is keeping up with android news knows the Samsung Continuum is Samsung's next android phone, and it hasn't been announced yet. Also if look at the picture on the event invitation it shows Android icons on top of a stock ticker, one of the callout features of the continuum second screen. Even if i'm wrong about them announcing the continuum Nov. 8'th (which I very well may be) I know that i'm not wrong about them NOT announcing this Nexus 2 or Nexus S or whatever the believers want to call it. The CEO is more likely to get up on stage and poop a unicorn.
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Guess what...you were wrong. Too bad the unicorn can't fly from your butt instead:
http://gizmodo.com/5676008/hands-on-the-nexus-two-by-samsung
Stop cluttering the board up with useless rants.
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Personally, I think you both clutter the board. Why you thought this was development material, I don't know...
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Shut up adrynalyne;-) love u man. Jk. Fyi supposedly someone at gizmodo played with it. U know the guys who found the iPhone 4 on the floor that was........not fake. It might be real. But its likely not what they r releasing on November 8. Whatever wouldn't surprise me if they our out a phone with gingerbread and can't give me ****ing froyo
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You could at least wait until it's released, so then we'll actually know if this will help development. We don't actually know if this thing exists (despite what Gizmodo says) yet or what hardware is inside it (it's not a Galaxy S phone if it's the Nexus Two considering Galaxy S phones have TouchWiz built in), so this is basically not helpful at all.
@OP... I understand why you might have thought this belonged in the Dev section, but the truth is that this is at best, hearsay, and belongs in General.
Thread cleaned & moved to General.
@everyone else... Personally, I have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to flaming and being rude. If you think a post / thread does not belong in a particular section or that it is redundant, use the "Report Post" feature to bring it to my attention instead of starting a war.
KEEP IT CLEAN!
Yeah, just because Gizmodo says "one of our friends" got a hands on with the device doesn't mean it's real. It's all still rumors. I could say my wife's, brother in law's, step brother works for samsung and he said it's going to be the continuum. doesn't make it fact, or even any more likely. I stand by my analysis.
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Yeah, just because Gizmodo says "one of our friends" got a hands on with the device doesn't mean it's real. It's all still rumors. I could say my wife's, brother in law's, step brother works for samsung and he said it's going to be the continuum. doesn't make it fact, or even any more likely. I stand by my analysis.
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I'm actually using the device right now thank you. Google and Apple designed the phone together, and commissioned Samsung to build it instead of HTC. They are banding together to fight WP7.
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I stand corrected. If Daswolven says its true it must be. He has a reputation for being a straight shooter.
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I stand corrected. If Daswolven says its true it must be. He has a reputation for being a straight shooter.
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Rofl.
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http://www.bgr.com/2010/11/01/samsung-nexus-two-rumor-simply-not-true/
Google and Apple? Riiiight.
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They can "speak out" all they want, but until they deliver, I'm not buying anything they say. As someone in the comments wrote, "talk is cheap". I honestly don't think ANY carrier / manufacturer is this bad with an update.
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They can "speak out" all they want, but until they deliver, I'm not buying anything they say. As someone in the comments wrote, "talk is cheap". I honestly don't think ANY carrier / manufacturer is this bad with an update.
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This article is why I love Engadget and all of the posts. It can become quite entertaining at times and that thread is very heated. People are beyond pissed off and all Samsung can still say is "soon"? WHISKEY TANGO FOXTROT SAMSUNG! They should change the phone name to "The Daikatana 4G."
Let's see if anyone is old enough to get that reference.
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They should change the phone name to "The Daikatana 4G."
Let's see if anyone is old enough to get that reference.
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Samsung's about to make you it's b!tch!
Daikatana was actually released, you should use DNF as a reference instead.
EDIT how I wish Google did all the software work, the manufacturer just did hardware (and sometimes drivers), and the carrier just provided the service. It'd be like a real computer, and it would work.
Yeah, until we see an official ROM release from Samsung, their statement is nothing more than damage control for bad publicity. Their Twitter "support" was being bombarded with messages last night; it drew much attention from other tech sites. Samsung's next step is to come up with with an official (vague) excuse for the delay and then hope it tides the community over...
It's been half a year, promises are pretty shallow at this point.
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So Samsung says "The Reports aren't true." Way to go with some serious insight. I bet their next response will be when someone calls them frauds they'll say "I know you are but what am I?"
"You're a phoney! Hey,this guys a great big phoney!" -HC
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My response to Samsung:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=angi1vwUkQc
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOVXh4xM-Ww#t=2m (Substitute Samsung when he says the Fed)
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"You're a phoney! Hey,this guys a great big phoney!" -HC
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Folks keep in mind this was pretty much a direct response to the accusations that they're charging for upgrades. I'm not saying I believe the response or that they haven't been awful at providing an update or adequate communication.
What I'm saying is you clearly have to make accusations to get a response (true or not).
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Daikatana was actually released, you should use DNF as a reference instead.
EDIT how I wish Google did all the software work, the manufacturer just did hardware (and sometimes drivers), and the carrier just provided the service. It'd be like a real computer, and it would work.
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I'd like source code with my driver modules please
AndrewZorn said:
Daikatana was actually released, you should use DNF as a reference instead.
EDIT how I wish Google did all the software work, the manufacturer just did hardware (and sometimes drivers), and the carrier just provided the service. It'd be like a real computer, and it would work.
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then windows might try and take over our phones!! noooooo
Screw samsung. As much as I love my Epic 4G's hardware, all their support and the community is much smaller. I probably will never buy Samsung again. I might even sell it and eat the ETF once the new androids/windows come out with dual cores.
lol they said soon......samsung should just stop selling phones.
http://twitter.com/#!/sprint/status/28185122356338688
http://twitter.com/#!/sprint/status/28185273577775104
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The problem is when Samsung and Sprint say ASAP it really just means "Another Sorry A$$ Promise."
I'm sorry everyone. I am the reason why we don't have Froyo yet. Let me explain. Every other smart phone I have ever had in the past 5 years on Sprint was an HTC phone. I went through 3 or 4 Moguls, 2 Touch Pros, and 3 Touch Pro 2s. I thought that since I had so any issues with HTC hardware I would try a different manufacturer so I got the Epic. Well.... It looks like the black cloud has followed me! Anyone want to pony up and buy me an iPhone? LOL I'd love to take this black cloud over there!
Well it is nice to hear Samsung open up and say something, but I sure am getting tired of getting the "details will come soon" BS from both Samsung and Sprint. We've been hearing "details will come soon" for more than 4 months. Perhaps we have different definitions of the word "soon."
DiGi760 said:
Well it is nice to hear Samsung open up and say something, but I sure am getting tired of getting the "details will come soon" BS from both Samsung and Sprint. We've been hearing "details will come soon" for more than 4 months. Perhaps we have different definitions of the word "soon."
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I think with another other carrier releasing the 2.2 update for a SGS phone, it will put pressure on other carriers to follow. No longer can they say it's someone else's fault.
But honestly, I bet we'll see noobnl release an operational version of Gingerbread before we see Sprint push 2.2 out.
So Samsung's bragging again that it's going to introduce a "evolution" and in the picture its the Galaxy S and then a white blog signifying it's "masterpiece" that it hopes to unveil on Feb. 13. Speculation seems to point at it's possibly them actually showing off the Vibrant 4G or another device.
The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
Take a read,
http://androidandme.com/2011/01/phones/samsung-to-introduce-the-next-evolution-of-the-galaxy-s-on-february-13-but-will-they-ever-update-it/
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The only "evolution" that Samsung could introduce, is the one where they support their devices instead of tossing new ones out there.
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Wow, so Samsung is just like every other cell phone manufacturer?????? THOSE BASTARDS!!!!! HOW DARE THEY KEEP UP WITH THEIR COMPETITION IN A FAST-GROWING INDUSTRY!!
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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Yes, damn them. Damn them all to hell..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
I understand they can't just release a phone and wait 2 years to release another one. But ( I guess I cut the ending short) they need to work on supporting what they have out now along side what they push out in the future. It's sad that the cell phone business has taken on Apples take of things. Make a new device, sells millions. A year later push out the same phone but with "enhancements" and newer things. Wait another year and do the same thing, and then drop support for the original after the 2nd one comes out..
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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I think they just made a typo. It's supposed to be "revolution" - because that's what the users are going to do on that date
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Unfortunately as soon as Samsung announced a phone with 4.3" SuperAMOLED+ screen and a Tegra2-beating Orion SOC, everyone who were complaining about the Android updates will secretly be counting their savings so that they can get the latest and the greatest hardware. Such is the way of phone upgraditis.
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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You spelled "whiny" wrong....
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Man your a whinny little b****, maybe it could be the second generation of sgs?
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im a whiney little ***** haha......have you spent any time in the general section??? nothing but whining lately. what makes me any different?? because i go against the majority, which makes me an easy target??? take a nap dude. at least i make points and contribute to the debate, i dont think ive seen you make one yet. youjustkillpeople apparently
You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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You contribute by complaining? I seen the genelar section, everyone has. just let pass, ignore it. your one thats been at it since the beginning, not like others who do it once maybe twice.
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since the beginning?? i started my *****-thread on monday.....this class-action/fck samsung/lack of froyo crap has been going on for weeks....pleasedontkillme, thats all i ask
back up your accusations dude
Samsung sucks yo.
EDIT: NVM..
Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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Hey topshelf, I just got my gingerbread update on my vibrant 4g
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.......AND SAMSUNG STILL HASNT UPDATED ME TO VERSION 65.32.9!!!! I HATE SAMSUNG. lets start a class action lawsuit!!! hell no, we wont go! hell no, we wont go!!!!!
apparently we are the neglected orphans of the smartphone world. its only us. its only samsung. wowowowow.....it is so much fun to sit here at work, and just wonder how miserable it must be to invest so much emotion into the OS of your phone (which you can get in a custom ROM anyway)
you knwo what would solve all of these problems?? TRADE BLAKE WHEELER
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no but seriously....im really into modding phones, and any device-specific forum ive ever been on has been full of people complaining about the same things. I just dont know why everyone doesnt just accept the system for what it is. And ALSO that the system is definitely out of Samsungs hands....but if they want to survive as a company, they have to keep up with that system.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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Thank you! EVERY forum has several of these exact threads. Not trying to defend sammy, but people act like they are the only consumers being screwed by a corp.
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dude ive been saying this for the past two days, and these weenies just flame me because i challenge their little cause......i think this post says it all:
-Originally Posted by TopShelf10-
So ignorant to the fast-growing industry of the cell phone. Name one combination of user-devicemodel-OSprovider-Manufacturer-NetworkProvider that is flawless. You roam around the internet you will find people complaining about these kinds of things eeeeverywhere. Lack of updates, lack of device support, lack of customer loyalty, unkept promises, hardware/software issues, blahblahblahhhhHHHhHHhHHHhhhHH
Nowadays, smartphones are outdated/obsolete within 6months of their release. Yes, indeed, its a monster that the manufacturers have created for themselves, and theres no way they can keep up with their competition while also keeping every single one of you crying babies happy. Yes, its an ugly industry, and it isnt fair. BUT ITS THE WAY IT IS.
*****, moan, *****, moan, *****, moan alllllll you want. File your class action lawsuits, spam their customer service lines, create facebook pages and twitter accounts, start petitions. do you think its going to change ANYTHING?? do you think its just THAT easy? you guys just sound so damn pathetic with all of your bellyaching.
Youre on a forum that is meant for modding your device, and making it better than the way it came out of the box, yet you are complaining that they wont do it for you. Then why are you guys even here??? No device is perfect. And when the day comes that they do release a perfect device, they will release an even more perfect device shortly after....thus making the prior one not perfect, and people *****ing for updates on their old ones to make it as good as the new one. Round-and-round we go.
Consumers will NEVER be happy, and you guys are proving that. Do some research before buying a damn phone next time. Dont buy it right when its released just because its the hottest thing, and having the phone that is on all the commercials gives you a sense of purpose. Maybe next time wait a couple months, come onto XDA, and see if the children are whining about the damn GPS. That would be a tell-tale warning, wouldnt you say? Then Samsung wont have your money, youll still have your upgrade to play with, and you wont be stuck with a device that didnt get sharted from god's ass. Problem solved.
To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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To me what's just as bad as the people that constantly complain are the people that get so defensive about it as if they have the majority of stock in Samsung. To break it down simply- Samsung doesn't care about you. They don't care about you the whiner, or you the blind follower.
Manufacturers aren't expected to cater to every whim of the consumer but I don't think anyone could come up with a valid argument in support of Samsung's continually delayed release of software both now and with other devices in the past.
In the end it's a great piece of hardware that we're lucky to have such excellent support for here on XDA and other places on the internet but it's just not supported by Samsung. They could learn a lesson or two from HTC. Sadly, if you're buying a Samsung or Motorola, this is the risk you're taking.
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if i didnt use all of my 5 "thanks" for the day, id thank you......um......thank you
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oh yah?? well i have a Vibrant 3000X with 65G and dual-exhaust!!!.....
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Lmfao. That **** cracks me up. Got Nos on that *****?
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why no word form xda about what they and samsungjohn talked about? just curious
I would like to know as well
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Well, agree the way XDA blew up on john they maybe trying to find a different way to approach the situation.
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why no word form xda about what they and samsungjohn talked about? just curious
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i have talked to him on gtalk and i can't tell you what the big announcement was all about because he ask me not to leak anything he said, i can tell you the future is bright
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i have talked to him on gtalk and i can't tell you what the big announcement was all about because he ask me not to leak anything he said, i can tell you the future is bright
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Ah man come on tell us. Hope its something other than froyo because at this point froyo is not even worth mentioning as an announcement. So come on tells us I treat you to a chesse steak with the works.
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i have talked to him on gtalk and i can't tell you what the big announcement was all about because he ask me not to leak anything he said, i can tell you the future is bright
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Can you at least tell us when we should expect to get the announcement?
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He said Monday but forgot to mention which year.
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He said Monday but forgot to mention which year.
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I still call bs on this matter. He could mean Monday feb 21 2199
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blackdragon79 said:
I still call bs on this matter. He could mean Monday feb 21 2199
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Doubt it, that's a Thursday
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i have talked to him on gtalk and i can't tell you what the big announcement was all about because he ask me not to leak anything he said, i can tell you the future is bright
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no Offense noobnl you respected very well here, but thats almost as bad as saying " have an ETA for Froyo yet but we’ll be tweeting the moment we do"
I'll hold my breath on this big announcement... I'm sure I'll be dead soon.
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i have talked to him on gtalk and i can't tell you what the big announcement was all about because he ask me not to leak anything he said, i can tell you the future is bright
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I like how he says, "...what the big announcement was all about...", implying there will not be an announcement now.
No offense meant, but all the secrecy going around this rumor is kinda building up a paper castle.
SamsungJohn works for Samsung, not Sprint. He can't offer us anything that affects Sprint (our contract holder) unless they've worked out a deal before-hand and, even then, Sprint would be the face of the offering. Why would Sprint's partner, Samsung, skip them completely and go directly to the customer? These aren't appliances.
I doubt they worked out a deal beforehand because the whole XDA debacle would have never happened. It would have been presented behind the scenes well before we ever caught wind of it.
So, yes, I'm curious, too, but don't get your hopes up too much. Remember, "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT" doesn't mean the same thing to one person as it does the other. Expect crap but hope for diamonds and somewhere in between lies the truth.
Noobnl speaking makes me think a little bit. When he says "future is bright"....well I'm encouraged.
My first thought? Xda will act as samsungs beta grounds...which would mean full disclosure.
I'm imagining us receiving full device driver source code...
Think about...we could theoretically port every android update on our own. Which honestly would be nice, and really, a win-win for everybody..
Samsung wouldn't have to put in the man power or money to update our phones, and we would still have access to every current update...samsung would then have a bunch of happy customers without breaking a sweat...
Because I mean really, wouldn't we all be happier with the source code over an ota anyday?
I think I might have the nail on the head...
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noobnl said:
i have talked to him on gtalk and i can't tell you what the big announcement was all about because he ask me not to leak anything he said, i can tell you the future is bright
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Hearing this statement out of Noobnl is awesome news, maybe Samsung will eventually manage to redeem themselves after all. I have been hoping that they would get smart and figure it out, sounds like maybe just maybe they did. I'm cautiously optimistic but I want to believe we are in for some good things!
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i have talked to him on gtalk and i can't tell you what the big announcement was all about because he ask me not to leak anything he said, i can tell you the future is bright
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I have talked to him MSN Messenger and I can't say what the big announcement was because that would make too much sense and ruin the constant "wtf is going on?" aura that surrounds the Epic support from Samsung and Sprint, I can tell you that eventually something will happen.
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Noobnl speaking makes me think a little bit. When he says "future is bright"....well I'm encouraged.
My first thought? Xda will act as samsungs beta grounds...which would mean full disclosure.
I'm imagining us receiving full device driver source code...
Think about...we could theoretically port every android update on our own. Which honestly would be nice, and really, a win-win for everybody..
Samsung wouldn't have to put in the man power or money to update our phones, and we would still have access to every current update...samsung would then have a bunch of happy customers without breaking a sweat...
Because I mean really, wouldn't we all be happier with the source code over an ota anyday?
I think I might have the nail on the head...
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I was just funning with noob earlier , I agree with you 100%
There's no big announcement. Otherwise it would have been made.
Ha,noobnl,vague as ever,gotta love it...
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Hehehe I just love sitting here eating my popcorn and watching all these folks jump at every thread or rumor.
Most just get more pissed and more cynical. I don't know why they would let it affect them this way.
<continues to eat popcorn>
As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
darkierawr said:
.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
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If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
Milkman00 said:
If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
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If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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muyoso said:
If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
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As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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The Great Lonny from Charlie Brown!!!!
Milkman00 said:
Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
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Thanks for being real. I feel the same way bro. I feel your pain. But I am not surprised. Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread. I am on the naughty list so I won't be getting gingerbread but others who are on the nice list can or maybe we can wait for the Lonny Bunny but our best chance is to ask the Great Lonny next Halloween for gingerbread by that time we will have an official gingerbread while everybody else will be on Jellybean.
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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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Thanks Steve. I didn't know that was the case. I thought several users here had access to it.
I am so disgusted with SamSprint it is disgusting. The worst part yet is that I feel that I have no options. I like Samsung technology (specifically the large AMOLED screen in combination with the physical QWERTY), but with attitude that Samsung and Sprint have in releasing software updates (the attitude of I got your money already), it is REALLY discouraging. I wish we had other options because I would GTFO of this phone QUICK and never buy another Samsung phone again.
ALSO, all of this in combination with Samsung and Sprint's complete lack of communication on the matter. No status updates, confirmations, NOTHING. SOOOOOOOOOO tired of this business model, and nothing on the horizon that looks better.
The Galaxy S is an awesome phone no matter which variant you have. Yes we don't get the up dates as quick as we should, I put it on the carriers(refer to the I9000 section on samfirmware and you'll see what I mean). If they'd let some members of xda do their updates they'd be a lot stablier and out faster.
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jamice4u said:
Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread.
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It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
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It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
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That is not going to happen.
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Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
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I am sorry that you think it is ok for companies (Sprint/Samsung) to treat THEIR CUSTOMERS this way. You know, the same customers who pay the salaries of the employees of their respective companies???
I am also sorry that you don't find this ridiculous delay, and this non-communication as acceptable, and as something that doesn't warrant complaining.
Instead, you chose to complain about my post. Good use of your time. It is YOUR passive attitude which is what allows these exact delays to occur. GOOD JOB!
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I guess it wasn't in the playbook this week?
Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
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Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
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And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
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GituSum said:
Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
GituSum Epic
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I have personally written to both companies (actual paper and stamp). I am just one person. If more and more people did it (even just demanded communication), things would change.
rgregg504 said:
Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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I had to lol at the job still not being done for you. Now there's a real challenge for the devs.
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Milkman00 said:
And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
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Spoke up to WHO? XDA Developers forum?
And no one is keeping anyone in the dark. We weren't guaranteed ANYTHING. We have been getting leaks (read: unofficial builds), and that's it. Nothing has been announced. We'll get it when we get it. Were we even TOLD we were getting Gingerbread by both Sprint and Samsung? I don't think so. We are all speculating release dates, 2.3.x builds, playbook leaks, etc.