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Safely Removing G1 in ubuntu...

Hi, i searched and couldnt find anything... I just installed ubuntu and have been dual-booting with windows Vista for several weeks now. My question is im a windows (redheaded step)child and im not too familiar with linux' inner workings yet...so i have not been doing anything to "safely remove" my G1 when in ubuntu, cuz i thought that such an option doesnt exist...problem is now i think ive corrupted all my data on my SDcard and i was just hoping that someone could tell me how to do this correctly in ubuntu? Do i hafta mount it, and THEN unmount it before i should unplug it? I dont even know if this is the problem, but ive been watching my logcat and it gives me some Dbus error when i plug in USB and it doesnt come up on the phone with option to mount SDcard, and windows doesnt recognize my device anymore. Pretty sure i corrupted my SD, im pretty sure i can fix it without help, if someone could just tell me the proper procedure for removing devices from ubuntu? thanks in advance...
-BMFC

I dual boot ubuntu on my mac OSX, which emulator are you using (fusion VM, virtualbox etc...?)
(1) When you've properly mounted your SD card it should show up on your ubuntu Desktop. Just go to Places > Desktop and you should be able to eject the SD card (two if you are partitioning them and AppstoSD) by pressing the "eject" button. The SD card should show up in the left window pane.
(2) Also, you probably have corrupted your SD card and are going to have to reformat it, losing all of your data.
(3) Somewhere in your emulator there should be a USB button to see which devices are plugged into your host computer, and which ever one you select your emulator will read.
(4) Finally, you don't provide enough information for a real answer...
(a) What ubuntu are you running?
(b) Do you have appstosd?
(c) have you done a nandroid backup?
(d) Which emulator/virtual environment are you running?
Hope this helps.

In Nautilus (the file manager) there will be a little orange eject symbol next to the drive. Clicking it will unmount the drive, which you should ALWAYS do before pulling any kind of removable media out of the socket. Unmounting is the *nix equivalent of "ejecting" in Windows.
If you're running a command line setup, the command to unmount is
Code:
sudo umount /media/(insert mount name here)
Hope that helps!

I too dual boot and noticed they i wouldn't get the "usb connected" on the G1. After some tweaking a few options; i noticed I would get the USB connected IF my usb debugging was ON. [settings- applications- developement- usb debugging]. I have to check for Ubuntu and uncheck for windows. I hope that helps

you see the problem is that ive never actually mounted my G1 in ubuntu, i just plugged it in to charge...so i never had to unmount it and theres no "safely remove" function, that i could find, so i figured that linux was just secure enough that it didnt require safely removing devices....oops...in answer to your questions, first im not running any VM...im ACTUALLY dual-booting. i have windows vista and ubuntu Jaunty running side-by-side, on a compaq presario f700. I DO have USB debugging ENABLED, and right now im running JF1.42rc33 still, im prolly gonna be wiping and upgrading to SOMETHING today, i was kinda just holding off cuz i like my theme, but my phones f-in up so nows as good a time as any to start fresh. I dont use a2sd, just my caches for market, browser, and maps are on sd. Ive been having trouble on my g/f's hp Pavilion pc running windows vista...we both have g1's and HERS is stock, unrooted, and she just got the OTA a couple days ago, since then the computer has been hating on MY phone, it says the drivers screwed and it wount bring up the option on my phone to mount the sdcard. hers still works fine, and mine still works fine hooked up to my laptop, just not hers...so i dunno if THATS a cupcake issue or if its cuz i didnt remove it from ubuntu right...im gonna format my sd AND wipe my phone, and ill get back to you guys moentarily, thanks for all your replies.
-BMFC

If all you were doing is charging, and you didn't mount it, then your original assumption was correct. You don't need to unmount something that was never mounted.
mm0

ok well then somebody help me out with this: i have tried for two days to get my sdcard to format, and IT JUST WONT. I cant get it to even be recognized by my girlfriends computer, but her G1 running UNrooted TMOCupcake still works fine, kinda makes me wonder if hers didnt get some kinda updated driver packed with it? The cupcake, i mean, not the phone...i dunno. Anyways my phone WONT mount in ubuntu at all, it shows up but when i try to mount it it says "No media on Volume" and wont open it at all. so in windows it ACTS like its doin everything i want it to do...i tried to format my sd yesterday and i sat here and watched it the whole time, and when it finshed it said: "Format Completed SUCCESSFULLY." so i SAFELY REMOVED IT, unplugged and plugged back the usb, and when it came up EVERYTHING WAS STILL THERE!!!! my problem seems to be my sdcard/doom folder...it tells me that the folder \doom is ENTIRELY UNREADABLE.
ahem...on a side note, all these things happened at once...(same day)
1. My g/f got the OTA cupcake update...
2. I updated some apps from the market, the one that im suspecting right now is called "Cards(-)" by Coderminus. After i updated it, i went to play Doom, and instead of playing like usual, when i hit the "Play" button, it just exitted to home. So i checked my logcat and the Cards(-) app caused ALL KINDS of runtime errors, and so i uninstalled this app.
3. My market starts crashing all of a sudden. I cleared the cache and it SEEMED to fix it...for now.
4. Uninstalled Doom (ver. 1.29.666) and then went and deleted my doom folder.(I thought) Reinstalled newest version of Doom (ver. 1.31.666)
5. Tried to redownload the WADs to play, and i could get it to play, as long as i didnt try to download the sound files. Everytime i tried to get the sounds, it would act fine, but then when id go to play the game itd just exit to home again....
6. Repeated step 5. like 6 times....
This was all like 2 days ago? 3 days ago? and ive been messing with it ever since, and my PHONE is fine, but my SDCARD appears to be, for lack of a better term, ****ED. i cant even format it, ive tride 3 times, it just all comes right back when i plug it back in...i even tried to put an update.zip in my sdcard and update from JF1.42RC33 to (I was gonna try Dude's 1.2b) so i put that in there, and removed it and when i went into my file manager on the g1, the update wasnt there! i cannot seem to be able to make ANY changes to my sd...SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!
-BMFC

Try ti format your card from within your phone. Unfortunately that's the only issue I can help you with.
Edit: try doing a system wipe on your girlfriends phone from the recovery menu. It should solve the crashes. You will wave to reinstall all your apps tho.

ubernicholi said:
Try ti format your card from within your phone. Unfortunately that's the only issue I can help you with.
Edit: try doing a system wipe on your girlfriends phone from the recovery menu. It should solve the crashes. You will wave to reinstall all your apps tho.
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I...didnt even know that was possible...im not seein any options to do that...you know some terminal commands for that or somethin? Cus when i got into my file manager (i use aFile, cuz it has wireless transfer) i cant even delete anything from there, ANY folder i try to delete it just says "Failed to delete (folder name)"...so if you know how to do that then hook me up and ill try it...
-BMFC
EDIT: i think you misunderstood, THERE'S NOTHING WRONG with my girlfriends phone...its just that she got the US OTA and it happened at the same time as all this other, so i thought maybe it might have had some effect on how mine interfaces with her comp...honestly i doubt it, but until someone tells me im wrong im not ruling it out...

On your phone Goto your settings menu, sdcard and phone memory, unmount your card and then select format

No dice, seems you may be on a diff. ROM than me, i dont have that option, i unmount the card, and thats all that happens, it unmounts it...no format option...
-BMFC

Damn that sucks. Does your girls phone have that option? I wish I could help you out. But I'm at a loss

Sdcard IMPOSSIBLE TO FORMAT....need ADVANCED help!!!
hi i posted a thread here for help, and i did so cuz i need help from someone INTELLIGENT. The mods have now moved my post to the "General section" of the dream forum, where i cant get **** for help. The reason i didnt just post in that section, where it goes, is CUZ NO ONE CAN OR WILL HELP ME OVER THERE....i need a devs help or somethin...THATS why i posted in the dev section...cus its pointless to try to get support from end users...i might as well just sit in the bedroom with NO COMPUTER asking MYSELF what the answer is...so first off id like to thank the AWESOME mods here for burying my post head-high in a section that i cant get any support in, EVER. THEN, id like to ask some dev(s) or SOMEBODY, SOMEBODY INTELLIGENT, please go to
this thread
and read, and im BEGGING you for help!!! To whoever helps me figure this out i would gladly donate to WHATEVER cause you have!!!! Honestly, if you ONLY read MY posts, you wont miss anything important, except some guy with the SAME SKILL LEVEL AS ME telling me to wipe SOMEBODY ELSES PHONE and see if that works...****.
SOMEONE PLEASE try to help me out before the AWESOME mods here at xda move this post, too. Im not sorry im posting in the wrong secrtion cuz this is where the help is and thats REALLY what i need right now. So MODS, you can move my posts all day long, ill just make a new one linking to the old one till i get some support...suspend me...BAN me, i dont care, ill just keep coming back with new usernames and accounts until i get some help, cuz THATS WHAT THE F*CK SUPPORT FORUMS ARE FOR. Im really pissed at whatever mod moved my post, cuz the SECOND i posted that thread initially, i got like 4 or 5 replies, thats why i LOVE this forum, cuz it has GREAT SUPPORT, when you can actually get your question seen by a dev, that is. but as soon as my post got moved i got several replies from one DUMBASS that was TRYING to help, and ill give him that he was just tryin to help, but i have a problem with my phone, and this guy tells me i should WIPE MY GIRLFRIENDS PHONE. WOW. Just wow. Someone please go read my problem and post there, or post here, with some answers....MODS PLEASE DONT MOVE THIS THREAD I AM TRYING TO GET SOME HELP!!!!
-BMFC

yea *****ing like a 4 year old will you nowhere. no one owes you anything.

If you have a camera, try using that to format your memory card. Hope it works.

lol ok first off take it easy on the mods here, i'm speaking of your other post, they try to keep these forums clean and it isnt an easy job all things considered.
the way i see it you have 2 options.
1. Throw your card in a digital camera and use the camera to format it. I works most the time when a computer wont, several times my pc wouldn't recognize/format a card but my ****ty digital camera had no problem.
2. if that doesn't work, splurge the $8.99(or less) it costs to get a new sd.
I've even seen 8gig class 6 cards for around $20 and 4gig class 4 cards for $10.
edit: wow just a min too late

Undo apps2sd?

Hi all...
I've been getting a lot of suspicious errors recently (force closes and app shortcut names disappearing) and I'd like to go from apps2sd back to just a normal setup with my apps on the internal phone storage.
Can somebody please verify that the instructions here are up to date? I'm a little nervous about wiping my data (or bricking my phone).
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Apps2SD
Also, can somebody tell me whether doing this will wipe out the (single) app I paid for from the Marketplace? If so, can I redownload it, or will I need to pay for it a second time?
I originally got apps2sd set up by using the recovery ROM prior to flashing Modaco's custom ROM v1.1.

The easiest thing to do would be to load the new RA 1.5.1 recovery image.
Then boot into it.
Go to Partiton SD
Select FAT EXT3 SWAP
and then set the partition sizes of EXT3 and SWAP to 0
Is there a reason you want to do this???
This runs a very very minimal chances of bricking your phone. The other method on that Wiki page has more potential to get you in trouble.

Did see the market place question.
There is a method laying around somewhere to copy all of your apps back to the phone instead of loosing them. Restoring a Nandroid backup would likly put them all back into the /apps/ directory sd card or not. apps2sd just changes the location of that directory really.
But the market does keep track of your google account and what apps you purchase, you wont have to re purchase (maybe on a totaly new handset).
hope my jiberish has made sense
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At first I was interested in the whole apps2sd process, but have yet to implement it on my rooted, Fresh 1.0 Hero since so far, I haven't really seen a need for it.
But if you were to 'turn on' apps2sd and then decide later that you don't want it, there's a possibility of bricking?? Although I assume you can always reflash the RUU if something like that were to happen? Hopefully?
Think I'll stay away from the whole offloading applications thing for awhile.

mkhopper said:
At first I was interested in the whole apps2sd process, but have yet to implement it on my rooted, Fresh 1.0 Hero since so far, I haven't really seen a need for it.
But if you were to 'turn on' apps2sd and then decide later that you don't want it, there's a possibility of bricking?? Although I assume you can always reflash the RUU if something like that were to happen? Hopefully?
Think I'll stay away from the whole offloading applications thing for awhile.
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The possibilities of bricking the phone are very slim, but they still exist. If a phone is truly a brick, not even RUU can help. RUU has to be able to detect the phone is there in Windows, so if its beyond that RUU is useless.
Nothing to worry about as long as follow the *usually* very well written step by steps across the interweb.
If it makes you feel any better I have only heard of one or two people to brick the Hero. Most things are recoverable.

Yeah, sorry, I didn't expect it would brick the phone so much as badly mess it up - like if it expects to run apps from the SD card and they aren't there I could see the phone being tough to use as a phone, but it wouldn't really be "bricked" in the sense of not responding to user input at all.
As far as why I want to do this, I haven't really seen a huge need for apps2sd yet, and when I was recently helping an app developer to debug their app it was just one more weird variable that seemed like a possible source of problems. I'm also hoping to start developing apps myself soon, so having a more vanilla phone seems like a good idea. (I also was influenced by the Fresh ROM apps2sd rant, to be honest.)
Anyhow, thanks for your replies. I'll probably repartition the card from RUU and then restore from Nandroid at that point. Will a repartition wipe the card filesystems out, or is the partitioner smart enough to preserve the existing data?

What I did is RUUed back to 1.2, OTA updated to 1.6
Flashed to the 1.5.1 image
(At this point I went to mess with the partitions and there was no ext)
Flashed to Fresh 1.0

Atrix Touch Screen way off after SPF flash

I used RSD lite to flash to 4.1.2.6 and when it boots up the touch screen is way off and i can even go back or click the buttons on the bottom row. Anyone else have this happen? I reflashed twice already to see if it would fix it.

I've been toiling day and night for the last few days with the exact problem!!!
Tenfar is trying to help me via PM.
Because I partitioned internal SD this happened. I figure we need to do following command:
adb shell mkfs.vfat /dev/block/mmc0p18
And then
#newfs_msdos -F 32 -S 512 -L MB860 -c 64 -u 16 /dev/block/mmcblk0p18
But I'm getting random daemon errors now because my PC is a piece of ****!! Trying to fix that problem to run the first command. Second command goes through okay but I'm still having touch screen issues.
Waiting for him to PM back. I'm in Canada with an AT&T Atrix and although the seller can send me proof of purchase, to send it to Motorola would take super long and would cost lots in shipping.
If you find anything, please post it here. I'll do the same!

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lol yup thats what i did. I realized it wouldnt let me install from internal sd and i didnt have a external sd at the time so is figured let me format it.. whats the harm. Well the harm is the whole bottom row of buttons doesnt work and the bottom of the screen is a half inch off lol. Been driving me crazy, let me know if u get anywhere with tenfar

Getting stupid daemon errors I can't fix. Going to try on another machine and will let you know if there's any progress. Seems simple enough in concept but I'm no Linux genius.
I'll keep you posted.

Have u tried booting into the recovery and partitioning the internal sd another way?

fallchild said:
Have u tried booting into the recovery and partitioning the internal sd another way?
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Yep. I've tried it all. Has to be manual now from what I gather... didn't get the chance to try on a new computer last night but will after work. I'll send you the commands if it works.
Dear lord, I hope it works!

Any Luck? I use my phone heavily for work and i had to use bluetooth all day with voice commands just to use the phone half way decently lol.

I had the same issue. I wasn't able to boot into my custom recovery and repartition. I ended up taking it back to AT&T and getting it exchanged. Can always pass it off as a bad device.

No luck. Same error. I tried mounting SD but I think I must be doing something wrong..
Still giving it another few tries. What a bummer. Gotta rip through the Atrix dump to see if I can find something else useful.

Can't unmount my SD card and successfully run the other command. Not sure what the heck I'm doing wrong. Now I'm uncertain what state my phone should be in when I run these commands.
I'm going to keep tinkering around but I'm waiting for the proof of purchase because I think I'll need to send it in. Damn. Wish I had someone in person that knew how to use shell commands properly. I'm not the greatest at this. Using an Xperia X10 in the meanwhile and dying to use my Atrix again. :'(
Hopefully someone will be kind enough to do a Nandroid backup of a fresh install and post it. I'm not sure but I think it could possibly help. It's worth a shot. Would pay someone $10 via Paypal if they could upload it to their Dropbox or something.

Hey OP, any luck?
If you have a new Atrix. Could you do a Nandroid backup and upload it to Dropbox by any chance???

I've exactly the same problem! (And when you are in some menu, you can't go back, so you have to reboot!!)
I did the same thing (Root, put recovery and so...)
I partitioned internal SD... And now, it's like touchscreen completly disturbed.
When you click on home - back or search, the screen select the bottom of the android interface!
I need to know if someone has a correct issue for that... I'm not at home, I will test the commands in adb from the second post later...
Also, I don't understand how a nandroid backup could resolve the problem... A backup will resize and fix the internal memory?
Thanks

[Problems & Questions] With Official 2.3 Update V2

Hello !
I am feeling really down today after been trying to get my phone working again.
There is a huge problem currently, I am really annoyed that it doesn't work at all.
First thing, my phone won't start after update it just boot loops and never seem to end it.
First thing I noticed /boot, /cache /system and most things are gone, I can load up recovery but nothing more. I have no idea what happened but the whole image folder was wiped and I had to myself put in the CWM recovery.
I can't do an upgrade "again" as it will be stuck @ the unpacking part without starting it at all.
I been trying with 2.3 V2 and with B133(My stock rom I got).
If anyone has a solution that can solve this problem please help out if you could. Also if you are about to tell me get this and that, please most cases I haven't seen any of the Firmware roms in @modaco wiki links work. Means I can't download them, so if you happen to have spare copy please upload it and link it to me. I have been googling and looking through this section twice, nothing really worked out.
Thanks in advance !

If you didn't erase the .cust_backup partition which contain the image folder with all system' s .img files, then maybe it' s damaged. I had some problems with this partition before and when I checked it with windows check disk it repairs it and I had no problems from then. So, try this, and if you still haven' t any file on image folder, you can find the original folder on X5' s forums. Is definately here, but I don't remember where is the link and I don't gonna search it for you. If you cannot find it, you can allways reflash the original rom. If you fix the partition(if this is the problem), I don't think that you'll have problems with update any more.

dancer_69 said:
If you didn't erase the .cust_backup partition which contain the image folder with all system' s .img files, then maybe it' s damaged. I had some problems with this partition before and when I checked it with windows check disk it repairs it and I had no problems from then. So, try this, and if you still haven' t any file on image folder, you can find the original folder on X5' s forums. Is definately here, but I don't remember where is the link and I don't gonna search it for you. If you cannot find it, you can allways reflash the original rom. If you fix the partition(if this is the problem), I don't think that you'll have problems with update any more.
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Hello, thanks for the reply.
I have no idea about this .cust_backup partition and how I am supposedly to access it via windows. Also the thing you said about fixing partition within Windows, the check disk thing. I am not sure about that part either as I can load CWM and it can read the partitions but they are empty. Also there is nothing in this forums that contains original things, only way for me to fix this if someone have extra copy and can guide me on how and where to place the all needed files. I am pretty sure it's only things that are missing and I can't get a grip out of this.
So to sum up what my problem is.
I did an upgrade from 2.2 to 2.3 with official firmware, it worked out normally but after a reboot my phone became stuck in an endless loop, I can't do anything and it will not I repeat it will not allow me to "re flash" any firmware I tried so far, the 2.3 V2 and B133.
I am begging someone in this forum section, please if you have the knowledge about this problem care to help?
I can't get a refund out the phone warrenty is off and I do not have that much spare money.
Thanks in advance !

If you can get to recovery, wipe cache and data. It should be possible in stock recovery.
The cust partition has all the images for bootloader, recovery etc. You can get to it with the pink screen. Reformatting and then reinserting the images and files could help, but try that when nothing else works.
I can't give you good help via phone, but try wiping data first. Also, try if you can use some other sd card.
Sent from my U8800 using Tapatalk

Blefish said:
If you can get to recovery, wipe cache and data. It should be possible in stock recovery.
The cust partition has all the images for bootloader, recovery etc. You can get to it with the pink screen. Reformatting and then reinserting the images and files could help, but try that when nothing else works.
I can't give you good help via phone, but try wiping data first. Also, try if you can use some other sd card.
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The most common things I have already done, but do enlighten me what this "custom" parition is. Because in windows I do not see such partition I see a removable partition which I have now added a folder called image with these containing files.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370960
EDIT ** Also regarding to first person who said about Windows partition manager. The thing is I see a lot of partitions and there is no labeling for them, might be because they are ext2/3 or even something else? In anycase I can't do so much I just find it really odd I have many duplicates and I am guessing that must be errors... Because I am seeing the main recovery partition which has no label too... its at 240 MB where 135MB is used. Lastly there is my internal SD card empty and healthy still I can't reach it within Windows if I do not mount it...And can't now without going into the android OS. I Have loads of free space "partitions I don't understand why they are there".
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Thanks for helping out, it feels not good to have a half dead phone, it's still not solved :'-(

The .cust_backup is the mount point on android for this removable partition with image folder. In windows haven' t this name. I didn't mean to use the windows partition manager, just to use windows explorer, right click on the partition and choose properties, then tools and then check disk. Of course you can use partition manager too, but because as you found there are all no labeled other partitions there and is a bit confused.
As you mentioned, you found the original image folder and you replaced the files. Did you tried to do the update again after that?
Also you can see and the internal sd partiton, but you need linux system. This partition is not fat32, so windows cannot see it.

dancer_69 said:
The .cust_backup is the mount point on android for this removable partition with image folder. In windows haven' t this name. I didn't mean to use the windows partition manager, just to use windows explorer, right click on the partition and choose properties, then tools and then check disk. Of course you can use partition manager too, but because as you found there are all no labeled other partitions there and is a bit confused.
As you mentioned, you found the original image folder and you replaced the files. Did you tried to do the update again after that?
Also you can see and the internal sd partiton, but you need linux system. This partition is not fat32, so windows cannot see it.
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I have placed all things that I got from here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1370960
And I can't run the upgrade firmware, it gets stuck at first stage which is to unpack the the update.app thing.
It just stays like that not blinking and frozen.

Did you tried now that you have the original files, to go to recovery mode and wipe data etc?
Also when you try to do the upgrade do you have the device connected with the cable?
I had this problem once and I think that when I disconnected the cable(or maybe wasn' t connected and I connected it, I don't remember well), the proccess bar starts to moving after a while and the upgrade completed successfully.

dancer_69 said:
Did you tried now that you have the original files, to go to recovery mode and wipe data etc?
Also when you try to do the upgrade do you have the device connected with the cable?
I had this problem once and I think that when I disconnected the cable(or maybe wasn' t connected and I connected it, I don't remember well), the proccess bar starts to moving after a while and the upgrade completed successfully.
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You are not understanding me :-(, I have wiped already millions of times in millions of different ways just to get it work. And no, I don't have the device connrected when I upgrade, it won't work properly then, I have tried to wait for the progress bar to "start" move it won't happen the battery will die, and nothing happened.
I can't go in with normal Recovery mode, can only go in with CWM, the normal recovery mode is really small, I mean only 3mb, while the froyo version is 5mb. Now I am asking if you have the time to upload the image files from 2.3 V2, the ones in forums are for V1. Which I don't know might conflict.
Thanks again for trying to help me out, this is really frustrating to get it to work.
**EDIT**
I worked it out !
I think I understood what you meant, I did as you told I started first with pluggin in the charger forced it to upgrade and now it's upgrading, thank you so much dancer_69. I was going to go tomorrow to buy a new 2nd hand smartphone. But now I can save my money for other things !
**EDIT of EDIT **
I seem to have downgraded to B133, I will try now with B158 2.3 V2 again and hopefully it will work now.

Yes, wasn't clear because I don' t remember what I've done and solve it. But I think that I did it like you discribed too.
Anyway I'm glad that was helpful(kind of)..
And don' t give up so soon with smartphone' s bricks, I've faced brick kind of problems many times and if the device it' s not completely dead, there is something you can do. Maybe need more search or many tries(sometimes the same things) but at the end(and of course If there isn't a hardware problem) device can unbrick.

[Q] Backup from TWRP with USB

I've managed to softbrick my nexus 10 by trying to disable extra services (was getting about 1.5 hours battery life with media services running the processor 100% all the time). It worked wonderfully (no negative side effects, went back to 10+ hours with the screen on, or days on standby) until I reboot it and now it won't load past the moving colors (Android 4.4.3, unlocked and all that).
I have TWRP, I was hoping to backup everything possible via usb, but it seems it's incapable of doing so. ADB backup can't be done using TWRP since there's no unlock function (reaaal useful there, recovery mode that doesn't support backups) and adb pull fails if I try to pull everything since there are files and folders with invalid file names (who puts ":" in folder names? they should be shot), and I don't know specifically what to pull, I was just going to get everything put back what I found was missing that I needed. There's no room to do a backup onto the device, and since the N10 has to sd/microsd, well... Useless options are useless.
Is there anyway to just do a proper backup with TWRP over USB? Or is the "recovery" mode as useless as I think it is when it comes to backups? (I'm aware I can get the tablet back to working order if I disregard the data on it, this is a question about backing things up before doing so)
Edit: Also, I have a pro version of SkipSoft ToolKit, but unless you can actually load into the OS the toolkit can't do anything at all.
Just really frustrated with the lack of doing something as basic as copying files from one place to another. Been messing with this all morning.

Diet6 said:
I've managed to softbrick my nexus 10 by trying to disable extra services (was getting about 1.5 hours battery life with media services running the processor 100% all the time). It worked wonderfully (no negative side effects, went back to 10+ hours with the screen on, or days on standby) until I reboot it and now it won't load past the moving colors (Android 4.4.3, unlocked and all that).
I have TWRP, I was hoping to backup everything possible via usb, but it seems it's incapable of doing so. ADB backup can't be done using TWRP since there's no unlock function (reaaal useful there, recovery mode that doesn't support backups) and adb pull fails if I try to pull everything since there are files and folders with invalid file names (who puts ":" in folder names? they should be shot), and I don't know specifically what to pull, I was just going to get everything put back what I found was missing that I needed. There's no room to do a backup onto the device, and since the N10 has to sd/microsd, well... Useless options are useless.
Is there anyway to just do a proper backup with TWRP over USB? Or is the "recovery" mode as useless as I think it is when it comes to backups? (I'm aware I can get the tablet back to working order if I disregard the data on it, this is a question about backing things up before doing so)
Edit: Also, I have a pro version of SkipSoft ToolKit, but unless you can actually load into the OS the toolkit can't do anything at all.
Just really frustrated with the lack of doing something as basic as copying files from one place to another. Been messing with this all morning.
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Do you still need help? What about mtp mounting? You can pull * for a whole folder
Why not adb sideload a new rom?

I don't think I can MTP mount a Nexus 10, at least not in recovery mode. What I ended up doing was buying a OTG usb drive and making a backup to that. Problem was it split the tar over 4 files, which corrupted them (or at least made them not work with 7zip or tartool) fortunately I was able to get them to work with cygwin enough to get the files I wanted. I didn't want to sideload a new rom until I had backed up certain application data just in case it removed it.
All in all, had to buy a OTG usb drive (I would have just bought a cable but all the stores around here had was this "Dane 16gb OTG drive". So 20 bucks later I had the files I needed. Still annoyed that you can't do a ADB backup from fastboot or recovery mode, it seems like those would be the best places because no system files are in use, but who knows maybe the developers know something I don't.
In summary:
TWRP recovery cannot confirm a ADB backup over USB. ADB backups can only be done from the operating system.
TWRP recovery mode can only backup to OTG (if your device supports it, Nexus 10 does), but if the backup is larger than 2gb it will split the file and you will need some form of linux to extract it.
ADB cannot copy every file in recovery mode over USB due to certain file names being invalid for NTFS (this is probably not a problem on other file system types), this is problematic since the "pull" command has no skip option, it just fails when it hits one of these files.

Well you can easily flash latest rwrp that does well on my Linux mount internal storage but another solution is just flashing a rom with abd sideload and the'the back up from pc the content
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Or that will just un brick your tablet

Diet6 said:
Still annoyed that you can't do a ADB backup from fastboot or recovery mode
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adb doesn't work in fastboot mode, only recovery or Android itself.
Diet6 said:
In summary:
TWRP recovery cannot confirm a ADB backup over USB. ADB backups can only be done from the operating system.
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Maybe because /data (not talking about /data/media) wasn't mounted?
Diet6 said:
TWRP recovery mode can only backup to OTG
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Huh?
Diet6 said:
ADB cannot copy every file in recovery mode over USB due to certain file names being invalid for NTFS (this is probably not a problem on other file system types), this is problematic since the "pull" command has no skip option, it just fails when it hits one of these files.
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That's NTFS' problem, not TWRP's.

beekay201 said:
1. adb doesn't work in fastboot mode, only recovery or Android itself.
2. Maybe because /data (not talking about /data/media) wasn't mounted?
3. Huh?
4. That's NTFS' problem, not TWRP's.
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1. I was just covering that you can't actually do a ADB backup unless you have access to android OS, in case anyone else came across this. (I didn't know when I started, and it took awhile to find it said concretely anywhere)
2. I made sure everything was mounted, the issue is when you send a backup command over ADB it says the "Now unlock your device and confirm the backup operation" message in terminal which you can't do from recovery mode on the device, thus you cannot do a ADB backup command over TWRP (or other recovery modes I'd imagine).
3. I should have been more specific. TWRP can do a backup to the device itself (built in storage), SD card (if your device has one and you mount it), or a OTG (on the go) device via usb directly to media like a flash drive. It cannot issue a backup over USB to a computer.
4. Completely agree it's a NTFS issue, but it could be mostly avoided by allowing files that error to be skipped or renamed rather than terminating the process. (I understand that's on the android devs since pull is made by them, and I doubt they would care to improve the command for a file system I doubt they use). Again I mostly included that so if anyone else is trying to figure it out they can stop looking for "a way" and just accept it can't be done.
Ultimately Khaon is right in that sideloading a rom would have unbricked it and I could have done the ADB backup then, I just wasn't sure how that might affect the app data storage so I was looking for a way to back it up before doing that.

Diet6 said:
1. I was just covering that you can't actually do a ADB backup unless you have access to android OS, in case anyone else came across this. (I didn't know when I started, and it took awhile to find it said concretely anywhere)
2. I made sure everything was mounted, the issue is when you send a backup command over ADB it says the "Now unlock your device and confirm the backup operation" message in terminal which you can't do from recovery mode on the device, thus you cannot do a ADB backup command over TWRP (or other recovery modes I'd imagine).
3. I should have been more specific. TWRP can do a backup to the device itself (built in storage), SD card (if your device has one and you mount it), or a OTG (on the go) device via usb directly to media like a flash drive. It cannot issue a backup over USB to a computer.
4. Completely agree it's a NTFS issue, but it could be mostly avoided by allowing files that error to be skipped or renamed rather than terminating the process. (I understand that's on the android devs since pull is made by them, and I doubt they would care to improve the command for a file system I doubt they use). Again I mostly included that so if anyone else is trying to figure it out they can stop looking for "a way" and just accept it can't be done.
Ultimately Khaon is right in that sideloading a rom would have unbricked it and I could have done the ADB backup then, I just wasn't sure how that might affect the app data storage so I was looking for a way to back it up before doing that.
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I'd just 'tar' what I wanted on the device and then pull that with adb.

Yeah, I just had no idea what I wanted. I'm not 100% familiar with how the system stores application data, I figured if I copy everything than anything I "miss" after I formated it I'll be able to just research where it was and dig in the backup and pull it out.

Yeah adb sideload a rom will only affect system partition thus your data would not have been modified in any way. So you are done with your issue?
Sent from my Xiaomi MI2s

Khaon said:
Yeah adb sideload a rom will only affect system partition thus your data would not have been modified in any way. So you are done with your issue?
Sent from my Xiaomi MI2s
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Yes, sorry for the slow reply. I've completed my update, just wanted to follow up on everything I did incase the information is useful for anyone else new to this like I am.