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Kindle Fire UK Root & Update?

Hi
I have been reading this forum today and haven't managed to find an answer that is 100% confirmed.
I am close to buying a Kindle Fire and live in the UK.
If I buy it can I unlock it with the Boritto unlock if it is version 6.2.2 or does it only work if I was in the US? I read something that suggests I need to be in the US to do this.
Also, is there a proven way for me to block Amazon from forcing an update to the device?
Many thanks
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meso100 said:
Hi
I have been reading this forum today and haven't managed to find an answer that is 100% confirmed.
I am close to buying a Kindle Fire and live in the UK.
If I buy it can I unlock it with the Boritto unlock if it is version 6.2.2 or does it only work if I was in the US? I read something that suggests I need to be in the US to do this.
Also, is there a proven way for me to block Amazon from forcing an update to the device?
Many thanks
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Assuming there is nothing stopping you from downloading burrito root I can't imagine what location would have to do with rooting it. I believe there are a few different methods that people have tried though I cannot speak to how well they work. Easiest way to guarantee amazon doesn't update it is to flash a non-amazon rom lol, but as I said others may know more regarding killing OTA

Really? So you think its as simple as putting a ROM on i.e. CM7, something that isn't stock and the update won't get through?
If so that sounds pretty simple...

meso100 said:
Really? So you think its as simple as putting a ROM on i.e. CM7, something that isn't stock and the update won't get through?
If so that sounds pretty simple...
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Let's put it this way, I bought my kindle in late december; amazon pushed an update, I've never once seen

Flash cm9/cm7/miui once rooted. and you wont see updates from amazon.

Thanks guys that's really good news. It would be pointless for me to keep standard as I wouldn't get any amazon services being in the UK.
Next question, how are you finding the tablet with a flashed ROM, is it smooth running with no issues?
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meso100 said:
Thanks guys that's really good news. It would be pointless for me to keep standard as I wouldn't get any amazon services being in the UK.
Next question, how are you finding the tablet with a flashed ROM, is it smooth running with no issues?
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i bought my kindle preordered last november. in a couple of weeks (no custom rom atm) i just use stock rom with minimum tweak. as expected amazon market is useless even if we using us ID. apart of that, all went well until i installed custom rom; cm7. so far so good. i can run most of my fav apps, listening to music, hd video and other simple browsing and reading.
stock adw launcher is a tittle bit sluggish so i just use launcherpro which performing as it should without any hiccup.

dieandromeda said:
i bought my kindle preordered last november. in a couple of weeks (no custom rom atm) i just use stock rom with minimum tweak. as expected amazon market is useless even if we using us ID. apart of that, all went well until i installed custom rom; cm7. so far so good. i can run most of my fav apps, listening to music, hd video and other simple browsing and reading.
stock adw launcher is a tittle bit sluggish so i just use launcherpro which performing as it should without any hiccup.
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Hi, I don't know if its me but that sounded a bit contradictory.
You're on stock ROM, all went well until you installed CM7 and so far so good?
Just so I am clear, you are not running CM7 you are standard with a launcher?
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I lived in Saudi Arabia and I bought mine in December last year 2011. I rooted it and install CM7 just after I received it. Currently I am using CM9 (ics) in daily bases with no problem. For sure, I do have a complete backup of the original stock ROM, if I need to go back.
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ammubarak said:
I lived in Saudi Arabia and I bought mine in December last year 2011. I rooted it and install CM7 just after I received it. Currently I am using CM9 (ics) in daily bases with no problem. For sure, I do have a complete backup of the original stock ROM, if I need to go back.
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So you bought it to not use as intended and just to change into a bare bones tablet like in am intending?
Is it what you expected? Do you wish you had chosen anything else like the Nook for instance?
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Even though you live outside U.S you can still enjoy the different amazon services like videos & app market search for "World Wide Kindle Fire" in the android market.
Those services are the added value of this device, don't give up on it .

vahusa said:
Even though you live outside U.S you can still enjoy the different amazon services like videos & app market search for "World Wide Kindle Fire" in the android market.
Those services are the added value of this device, don't give up on it .
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Thanks I had never heard of that. So the unroot and root, how long would that take?
Also the reviews seem a bit mixed, lots saying or doesn't work. It must be problems with the server...
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I like to have a full control of my device, especially this device is equipped with hardware specifications suitable for functions beyond the original Amazon defined use.
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meso100 said:
Thanks I had never heard of that. So the unroot and root, how long would that take?
Also the reviews seem a bit mixed, lots saying or doesn't work. It must be problems with the server...
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The unroot, root process takes less then a second...
The app use several different servers, so if one server doesn't work you can always switch to the next one... also you can enter your own proxy server manually.

Applications not ready for jellybean?

So, this tablet is a great purchase don't get me wrong but the more I play with it the more I see force closing, freezing, and lag. Just not as snappy as my phone. My question is, is it the tablet or is it jellybean? I know jellybean is brand spankin new, so could this be the reason why these apps are force closing? Facebook and ALL browsers I've tried are the worst. And also for some reason it freezes a lot just when I go to my settings. Very annoying waiting for the simple stuff. Let me know if I'm the only one please. Thanks
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Im the opposite way. all my apps run smoothly. I may get a bit of lag once in a blue moon but it doesnt bother me. Chrome is also very quick too.

Well if you ask Rovio, it's jelly beans fault. I asked them about Amazing Alex not being available and got:
"Unfortunately Nexus 7 can not be added to the compatible devices due to its non standard way of reading the game's manifest file. This is something we can not change, it's up to the device manufacturer and Operation System manufacturer."

Amazing Alex is running beautifully on my N7. Available from Amazon App Store, so that pretty much makes that last post a complete fabrication of fact.
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I also thought that Amazing Alex being incompatible seemed weird given that it works on Tegra phones...
A load of applications just don't seem to be ready for high resolutions, and don't look right. Given that this device has truly taken off I imagine everyone will start to include 1280 layouts.

I'm grabbing stuff through the Play Store onto my Tab 2 7.0 and the using ROM Toolbox to make a backup, then sideloading the backup .apks on the N7. So far everything has worked just peachy. Probably my number one annoyance at this point with the device. (Previous number one annoyances were "Why is this thing so hard to root after the last OTA or is it my Tab 2 drivers getting in the way?", and after that it was "How in the world do I get Flash to work, why is Dolphin HD not working with Flash?")

rman726 said:
Well if you ask Rovio, it's jelly beans fault. I asked them about Amazing Alex not being available and got:
"Unfortunately Nexus 7 can not be added to the compatible devices due to its non standard way of reading the game's manifest file. This is something we can not change, it's up to the device manufacturer and Operation System manufacturer."
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meatlocker said:
Amazing Alex is running beautifully on my N7. Available from Amazon App Store, so that pretty much makes that last post a complete fabrication of fact.
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You guys should email Rovio.
Amazon Appstore doesn't have strict device policies for apps, so that's why you were able to install it and find out it works fine.
The Play Store, developers have tons of settings for device policies on apps, so they can exclude some devices, or can automatically exclude some devices (and they don't even know that it did).

meatlocker said:
Amazing Alex is running beautifully on my N7. Available from Amazon App Store, so that pretty much makes that last post a complete fabrication of fact.
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Funny, it wasn't available for download from the Play store as of last night. I guess Rovio must have updated the software?

meatlocker said:
Amazing Alex is running beautifully on my N7. Available from Amazon App Store, so that pretty much makes that last post a complete fabrication of fact.
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I agree that what Rovio told me is bs, as sideloading produced no issues. I was just saying what Rovio told me.

What is amazing Alex. And what is rovio?
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feelinfroggy23 said:
What is amazing Alex. And what is rovio?
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Rovio is the developer that created Angry Birds. Amazing Alex is from the developer Rovio.

Why is there yet another thread about app compatibility? Are these people all fresh and new to Android or something? Relax, the OS just launched, give it a few weeks - this is ridiculous now!

Even though YouTube app runs, it is indeed incompatible. Go to Play Store, you won't see it under your "Installed" list. You can't search it in Play store either (because it's incompatible with JB).

Is spotify supposed to be working? I ask as I cannot get the search feature to work at all and so am limited to playing my playlists only.

Amazing Alex HD plays fine here. The only game I found to run like crap is the Not-So-Amazing-Spider-Man.
-Its probably Tegra drivers and not Jelly Bean's fault.

rman726 said:
Well if you ask Rovio, it's jelly beans fault. I asked them about Amazing Alex not being available and got:
"Unfortunately Nexus 7 can not be added to the compatible devices due to its non standard way of reading the game's manifest file. This is something we can not change, it's up to the device manufacturer and Operation System manufacturer."
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Surely as it's the official android from Google its rovio that have a manifest that's non standard.
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mooro1973 said:
Is spotify supposed to be working? I ask as I cannot get the search feature to work at all and so am limited to playing my playlists only.
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Yep - just listening to an album right now via searching. Maybe try reinstalling?
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ok...I'm officially bored. What tricks can I teach my N7?

So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?

rudeguy said:
So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
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Frisbee?

rudeguy said:
So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
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Have you tried alternate ROMs? If not, I'd recommend Paranoid Android. It's smooth, fast, stable, and it allows you to choose between phone, phablet, and tablet mode for every app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800268
If PA isn't your style, try Slimbean or Cyanogenmod 10.
There are a lot of ROMs out there to mess around with.
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How about getting tablet mode by installing ROM Toolbox Lite and changing the DPI from 213dpi to 160dpi?
It's under Performance/build.prop.tweaks
You'll need to be rooted though.
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rudeguy said:
So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
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Games, news, geocaching (tether it to your phone via bluetooth), use it as a GPS on your bike/car if you have one (I use my phone for now, and you can cache the maps before hand too, so no data connection needed), control your DSLR camera if you have one, setup an andruino system/project and use the N7 as a remote, use it as universal remote in your home (friend is doing that w his Galaxy Tab 2 7"), etc.
Imagination is the limit.

ollie.olsson said:
Games, news, geocaching (tether it to your phone via bluetooth), use it as a GPS on your bike/car if you have one (I use my phone for now, and you can cache the maps before hand too, so no data connection needed), control your DSLR camera if you have one, setup an andruino system/project and use the N7 as a remote, use it as universal remote in your home (friend is doing that w his Galaxy Tab 2 7"), etc.
Imagination is the limit.
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Galaxy Tabs have IR transmitter to be a universal remote, N7 doesn't have it.
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Tablet mode. EOS Rom.
Emulators. Sixsxis.
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What more you expected from a tablet?
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DL source and experiment with it. Thats what Ive been doing. Learned how to add 720p video thanks to guy in dev and change nav bar height.

shook187 said:
What more you expected from a tablet?
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Breakfast in bed with a happy ending?
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Try productivity out. Ever note, Pocket Informant, etc
Also tablet SMS allows you to do all your texting via your tablet. Making this thing useful is all about how you use it.
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rudeguy said:
So far I basically use this thing as a web browser, twitter reader and forum crawler.
Of course I rooted, themed, installed new kernels, bricked it, brought it back to life, and now I'm back to stock rooted.
So what else can this thing do? I bought a USB dongle thinger but I don't like watching movies on the small screen (I get headaches easy). Give me some ideas?
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Buy tasker. You can spend hours figuring out awesome tasks to build.
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Buy tasker. You can spend hours figuring out awesome tasks to build. Not only that but you can package your tasks into an app from tasker app factory and sell them on the market.
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I don't know if you are into reading books, but ever since I got the N7, I've started downloading and reading ebooks (not through Google Books tho). Prior to that, the last time I actually read a fictional book was years ago. After I finish my current series, I'm thinking of downloading Wattpad.

xbmc and comic books

Install google currents....then it will get the paper for you
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Disappointed now
ExploreMN said:
Breakfast in bed with a happy ending?
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Hummmmmm . Well mine does not have Vibration feature .So well ahhh humm Yea not happening...
On topic You could always use your Nexus 7 to do some online shopping. Message me for my sizes and what i want.....
This should keep you busy for a life time. well at least the life of your credit cards..
Love your nexus Just in the correct ways.. :laugh:

Do a barrel roll.
Say "do a barrel roll" in Google Now

Install TeamViewer or another remote desktop app on your tablet and your PC, go to a country on the other side of the planet, log into your PC, and rearrange your desktop icons. Log out, go home.
Well, you did say you were bored...
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slick_rick said:
DL source and experiment with it. Thats what Ive been doing. Learned how to add 720p video thanks to guy in dev and change nav bar height.
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This. I bought the 7 because messing with my phone, which is a necessity, got annoying. Building Android will definitively keep you occupied, if not completely exhausted.
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Sky go

Anyone fancy having a go at making sky go work for JB and the note2? Dont even bother trying to get it workimg for root!
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Whate he said ^
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Never going to happen, sky's inbuilt protection is ridiculously good now. We cannot even edit the app anymore as it does a server side check for a particular signature.
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So were gonna have to wait another year for Sky to make it work with JB, they're so slow its ridiculous.
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Look at the Xbox 360 Sky Go player still hasnt had an update to change it with a metro style. I am not holding my breath.

I dont think sky are slow its just sky prefer iphone over android.

No the problem is sky don't trust android users so they spend too long on trying to build protection into the apps.
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SkyGo on Note
I have the original Note running ICS which I run SkyGo on using a side loaded APK.
I guess the issue is the O/S rather than device as GT-N7000 isn't a supported device either.

I work for Sky and I'm currently beta testing the app and it does work on both the note 2 and on jb. See my post on the themes and apps section. The current version of Sky Go in Google Play does work on the original running ICS
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spfraggle said:
I work for Sky and I'm currently beta testing the app and it does work on both the note 2 and on jb. See my post on the themes and apps section. The current version of Sky Go in Google Play does work on the original running ICS
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lets not get peoples hopes up regarding root though. Sky will always block this for no legtimate reason (although they quote that it is because their content providers are worried about copyright infringement, which is nonsense as jailbroken iphones still use the same app).

spfraggle said:
I work for Sky and I'm currently beta testing the app and it does work on both the note 2 and on jb. See my post on the themes and apps section. The current version of Sky Go in Google Play does work on the original running ICS
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So when will it be ready.
I paid a lot of money for the note 2... And pay a lot of money to sky from the subscription.
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I'll try to address all concerns here. I don't think Sky will ever allow the app to work on rooted devices. Not sure why though, beat in mind I work in sales, I'm only testing the app. As to when it's available, I'm not sure. It's in phase 2 of beta testing right now. Also bear in mind, Sky Go is a free app. You pay for what you get on the tv, the app is an added bonus. I will ask though about the rooting issue and as soon as I get an answer I'll post on here
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I dont see the issue with rooting tbh....seen as though sky go is all server based (you cant hack it to get a free account etc) I dont see why they blocked rooted devices from opening the app in the first place :duh:
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DISCUSSION ANDROID 4.4 kitkat™

N7 and android 4.4 don't go together I am gonna revert what's ur idea?
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scorpio_K said:
N7 and android 4.4 don't go together I am gonna revert what's ur idea?
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They go together just fine.
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Been great in my N7 from the moment I sideloaded it, to today
How about describing type problem and actually being some help?
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They're a perfect match in my opinion. Just came from the old N7. Vast improvement over that for one. Only missed a few things, but root it add xposed mod, gravity box and touch control and sorted. One very happy camper ?
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I didnt notice any problems,. there was a significant improvement in the performance. the response time seem faster

No problem here. The system is running without issue with ART, as well.
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I bought the Nexus 7 LTE to take the place of my T-mobile hotspot. This update breaks the 2 reasons I use the hotspot for, wireless connectivity on the go when I need it for my laptop and native sms messaging. Both of these features are included in the service I pay T-mobile for on this account. Not only did Google disable these 2 features without notice in KitKat, but they don't acknowledge that they have or give a reason or resolution for the issue anywhere that I can find. I can't even find a way to contact Google directly to ask them a question about the issue with any guarantee that they will even read my questions, let alone answer them. Until this is resolved, I'm stuck on 4.3.1.

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I bought the Nexus 7 LTE to take the place of my T-mobile hotspot. This update breaks the 2 reasons I use the hotspot for, wireless connectivity on the go when I need it for my laptop and native sms messaging. Both of these features are included in the service I pay T-mobile for on this account. Not only did Google disable these 2 features without notice in KitKat, but they don't acknowledge that they have or give a reason or resolution for the issue anywhere that I can find. I can't even find a way to contact Google directly to ask them a question about the issue with any guarantee that they will even read my questions, let alone answer them. Until this is resolved, I'm stuck on 4.3.1.
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So you're saying that the 4.4/KRT16S update removed the option to tether with a T-Mobile SIM? Can anyone else confirm that? If that's true, that totally sucks. For people on AT&T, their tethering has been disabled from the start. I know for a fact that tethering still works with Verizon, though, even after the KitKat update. I'd love to know how carriers get their demands integrated into a carrier-free, SIM unlocked device like the Nexus 7, especially when no Nexus phone has ever disabled tethering. The Google Play Edition phones don't disable tethering either. This "selective disabling of tethering based on carrier" seems to be unique to tablets.
As for native SMS on a tablet, though, that's a feature very few people will miss because so few people would ever even think to do it in the first place. Tablets are designed by default to be data consumption devices, not giant phones. You probably won't find much sympathy on that one.
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I'm tying to understand why it should be different on theN7 from the N5 running Kitkat. I use my N5 on T-Mobile and the tethering works fine. I can't say I love Hangouts as the native SMS client but it does work for sms/mms. It should work on the N7. Hopefully someone might chip in who uses t mobile with their N7. You might want a thread title that is clearer what your issues are. The current title is unclear.
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As for native SMS on a tablet, though, that's a feature very few people will miss because so few people would ever even think to do it in the first place. Tablets are designed by default to be data consumption devices, not giant phones. You probably won't find much sympathy on that one.
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I don't need anyone's sympathy. As a matter of fact, there is already someone who has claimed a fix for the SMS problem in the LTE android development forum for the Nexus 7 (2013). So obviously there is sympathy. Just because you don't use a feature, don't make the assumption that others don't use it and find it useful.

Where ate they???
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Hmm , i missed the aosp browser so much , chrome was laggy and drain battery like hell

heorung said:
Hmm , i missed the aosp browser so much , chrome was laggy and drain battery like hell
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That's exactly why I reverted to CM10.2 a while back.
TBH I have yet to see one real benefit of KitKat, and the ASOP install issues with KK was a total deal breaker for me.
XPrivacy having issues with KK didn't help either.
Went back to 10.2 and now I'm extremely happy again!...
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Aosp browser is available at GPS.
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Having N 7 2013 root and TWRP recovery notification update in step 4.4 and came anyway. Now the question is: Can you do the same upgrade to the next version even though you have the terminal with root permissions? Thanks