Do you turn off your Nexus 7 at night? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I was wondering if people shut down their tablet at night? I always do, is anything wrong with this?
Thanks.
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I don't, and no of course there's nothing wrong with that! Why would there be? (;
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I just let it automatically go into Airplane mode during my sleep hours, the free Battery Widget Reborn app can do this. Only about 3-4% overnight drain.

newcdn said:
I was wondering if people shut down their tablet at night? I always do, is anything wrong with this?
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The only time I power down my N7 or smartphones is when I'm doing something to the system that needs a clean boot.
You're weird. :silly:

we have 5 android devices in our home..
NONE of them have ever been left off for longer then it takes to reboot when flashing .. My iconia can go weeks Sometimes months without being shut down or rebooted..
but you can turn it off without any issues .. NOTHING Weird about that.. Giggles

No need to turn these off. Tablets are designed to be "always ready" devices anyway.

I turn mine off at night as well.
We can form a support group to keep the "I never turn my N7 off" crowd from bullying us into changing our ways. :highfive:

newcdn said:
I was wondering if people shut down their tablet at night? I always do, is anything wrong with this?
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Every time you shut down your Nexus 7 an innocent puppy dies!

I leave mine on over-night. In sleep mode it'll only lose a few percent battery life over-night, so it's not really an issue for me.

I want to preserve battery as much as possible, so off it goes.

chuckf1 said:
I turn mine off at night as well.
We can form a support group to keep the "I never turn my N7 off" crowd from bullying us into changing our ways. :highfive:
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Oh my, not a tarhole in this forum. :nofive:
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I leave mine on charging overnight so it's ready to go first thing in the morning.
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I turn mine off because I always find that a fresh boot every day makes stuff run nicer, its way more noticeable on my aging phone, but I'm sure it happens to some extent on even this beast
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newcdn said:
I was wondering if people shut down their tablet at night? I always do, is anything wrong with this?
Thanks.
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I would say turning it off every night is a bad thing, it's built to be on all the time, android is built to put a device in to a deep sleep mode when you're not using it. The cpu is far better off going to sleep then being powered on and off every day..... Just make sure you turn off wifi or change the setting to "Never keep wifi on during sleep" and uncheck "Notify me when an open network is available"

I turn mine off at night
I prefer to shut down the system every now and again. A fresh boot can make the device quicker.
Its also good to, every once in a while, clear all the system caches that have been created.
Why would you think that there is anything wrong with shutting down the tablet?

I switch mine off most night but it sleeps on other nights as it only uses minimal battery while sleeping, just feel bad for leaving on when I wouldn't my laptop or other computer.
Has anyone left there tablet on the dark clock screen (sort of like an illuminated alarm clock mode) overnight, wondered what battery use was like? Was thinking about trying it to use as an alarm clock.

snipe2nite said:
I would say turning it off every night is a bad thing, it's built to be on all the time, android is built to put a device in to a deep sleep mode when you're not using it. The cpu is far better off going to sleep then being powered on and off every day..... Just make sure you turn off wifi or change the setting to "Never keep wifi on during sleep" and uncheck "Notify me when an open network is available"
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This ^
Hardware wear is a real phenomenon. You put needless strain on the CPU and all other major components including SD and RAM by powering it on and off regularly.

I usually charge them overnight

No, leave mine on (sleeping) all night, every other night, or, thrid night, I leave it charging. Can't really see any advantage to shutting it down completely every night, the amount of power saved, would be minimul I think ....................

I turn off wifi with home screen toggle, then just shut my auto-off case. I get up in the AM and have lost 2-3%. That ain't going to effect the next time I need to charge by more than 30 minutes. I just hate waiting for the reboot. I reboot only when I get a glitch, maybe every other week.

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Getting sick of Android's crappy standby

Don't get me wrong I love my Nexus 7.. and my galaxy tab 7.7 before that... but I'm sick of the crappy standby time. Why can my roommates Ipad 1st gen sit on the coffee table for a week and still have a fairly full battery and either of my tablets would be close to dead in 3-4 days at best? What's with the power management!! If I pick my Nexus up after a couple days one more time and see a bloody low battery alert I'm gonna crack!!
Yeah this needs to be fixed
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Don't get me wrong I love my Nexus 7.. and my galaxy tab 7.7 before that... but I'm sick of the crappy standby time. Why can my roommates Ipad 1st gen sit on the coffee table for a week and still have a fairly full battery and either of my tablets would be close to dead in 3-4 days at best? What's with the power management!! If I pick my Nexus up after a couple days one more time and see a bloody low battery alert I'm gonna crack!!
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It's because you aren't aware of what you are leaving on. Not only wifi, NFC, Bluetooth but also applications that are memory hogs that maybe running in the background not allowing your tablet to go into deep sleep. Don't blame the tablet. Also I don't know if you remember this but you paid $250 dollars tops for this tablet. Why are you complaining?!
Also says a lot about a tablet that's left on a coffee table for a week untouched!
det66 said:
Also says a lot about a tablet that's left on a coffee table for a week untouched!
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More likely about the person leaving it there. Take the ten seconds to power it off.
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May have paid 200 for the nexus but paid 500 for the 7.7 and had the same problem with it. Sold it to buy the nexus... thought newer software might mean better power management... guess not... still behind the iPad in that department. Ridiculous to have to disable and shut off stuff everytime your not using it... guess its back to the old airplane mode toggle widget... maybe android version. 5 will solve this.
Mine can last about a week (extrapolating from power stats, of course; I'm not crazy enough to just do that). Phone's actually being more annoying in this respect; I have to figure it out and possibly change kernel.
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I really can't see the point of why wanting something to hold a charge for 5 days without use is an issue!
I use my phone and my Nexus 7 everyday and charge it at night .
Why pay for an item and not use it?
I don't buy the argument that you paid just 200 dollars so you should STFU. Yes, the standby time is really crappy.
I have found a solution for it - it's called Llama. It is similar to Tasker, but free. I have set up a profile - 'Turn airplane mode on 1min after screen turns off. And turn airplane mode off when screen turns on'. So you don't have to remember to turn airplane mode on/off yourself every time you put the tablet on standby.
With this app and setting, my tablet loses 5-6% in 1 day.
Its not that I don't pick it up but once every 5 days.... for example it probably had around 30 percent 15 hours ago when I got up and I used it for 15 minutes.... well when I picked it up tonight to use it to Delve into a chapter of World War Z I'm reading it had 11 percent left... I knew I would have to deal with it plugged in while I was reading... I was pissed and decided to post since this happens practically on a weekly basis. .... Anyway I'm over it and thanks for the heads up on that llama app.Verrjiggy. I will give it a shot
My guess is something is continuining to run and use resources in the background even if the screen is off.
Go into Settings, WiFi, Advanced and make sure wifi is turned off when the screen goes off.
Install Auto Airplane Mode
Install CPUSpy and see whether it goes into deep sleep when you're not using it.
HTH
It seems simple enough to just plug it in to charge every day or two.:laugh:
I find a couple days of use great battery time and don't mind charging mine every other night.Shut down the wifi/bluetooth ect,stop auto updates and sync manually and you can probably see 5 days of coffee table use.
People just don't understand how Android works and why it is different than an iPad.... I won't go into details... but learn your tech before you complain.
And just plug in your device! Why let it get so low and then complain when you try to use it? Do you do that with your laptop? You said you left it at 30% 15 hours ago! And then was annoyed by having to plug it in while in use. That shows your own folly.
I guess I will go into some details. Android has true multitasking and with widgets and things constantly updating and running. IPad doesn't have these, for greater or worse depending on your outlook. So when you leave an iDevice sitting there, it's literally just doing that. Android devices are refreshing your widgets, updating them, updating background services, etc... If you want your N7 to behave like an iPad, get rid of widgets and limit background services. Tada!
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kangxi said:
People just don't understand how Android works and why it is different than an iPad.... I won't go into details... but learn your tech before you complain.
And just plug in your device! Why let it get so low and then complain when you try to use it? Do you do that with your laptop? You said you left it at 30% 15 hours ago! And then was annoyed by having to plug it in while in use. That shows your own folly.
I guess I will go into some details. Android has true multitasking and with widgets and things constantly updating and running. IPad doesn't have these, for greater or worse depending on your outlook. So when you leave an iDevice sitting there, it's literally just doing that. Android devices are refreshing your widgets, updating them, updating background services, etc... If you want your N7 to behave like an iPad, get rid of widgets and limit background services. Tada!
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I do know whatever you just said above. But think about it. What's the point of it refreshing a gazillion apps and widgets when it's just sitting there and I am not using it? Who is it refreshing them for?! True multitasking makes perfect sense when a user is using a tab. Not when it is just sitting there in standby mode. It can always refresh everything as soon as I switch on the screen and want to use my tab. Am sure a couple of minutes of delay between the time I switch the screen on and the widgets/apps refresh is not gonna kill me.
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I do know whatever you just said above. But think about it. What's the point of it refreshing a gazillion apps and widgets when it's just sitting there and I am not using it? Who is it refreshing them for?! True multitasking makes perfect sense when a user is using a tab. Not when it is just sitting there in standby mode. It can always refresh everything as soon as I switch on the screen and want to use my tab. Am sure a couple of minutes of delay between the time I switch the screen on and the widgets/apps refresh is not gonna kill me.
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That's not the fault of the tablet; that's just how the apps work. I don't have any widgets running and letting my tablet sleep for over 24 hours; it dropped 2%.
If you don't want the apps to update; turn off wireless. That's just the nature of the beast.
If you want a tablet that behaves like an iPad; get an iPad.
One more thing; why do people leave their devices sitting around for days without charging them? I use my tablet on a regular basis and when I know the tablet needs a charge; I plug it in before I go to bed. Not once have I had a moment where I couldn't use my tablet due to a low battery.
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That's not the fault of the tablet; that's just how the apps work. I don't have any widgets running and letting my tablet sleep for over 24 hours; it dropped 2%.
If you don't want the apps to update; turn off wireless. That's just the nature of the beast.
If you want a tablet that behaves like an iPad; get an iPad.
One more thing; why do people leave their devices sitting around for days without charging them? I use my tablet on a regular basis and when I know the tablet needs a charge; I plug it in before I go to bed. Not once have I had a moment where I couldn't use my tablet due to a low battery.
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While it has a bit to do with apps, the way Android functions is also to blame. I am a big time Google fanboy. So please don't give me fanboy-istic arguments and ask me to get an iPad. Overlooking shortcomings of Android is not the best stand to take. Or saying - 'Hey, that's how Android is!'
Turning off wireless is definitely a solution (see my post above on this thread), but it is not ideal.
More so, if you are blaming apps, blame Google's own apps also. Cos they keep refreshing all the time as well.
I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
For your last point as to why people leave their devices sitting around. Well, different people use their devices differently. I just use the tablet for a couple of hours in the evening. Vacation, travel for work, blah blah blah. There can be a thousand reasons. You can't fault them cos they don't use their tablets.
veryjiggy said:
I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
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I could see it using 2% in 24 hours with wifi off & nothing syncing, overnight mine uses about 2-3% in 8 hours with wifi on & stuff still syncing in the background.
If you didn't know, if you go to Settings - wifi - Advanced there is an option to be able to turn off wifi while in sleep mode. It works awesome and on a whole battery with average use and little gaming, I get about 4 days charge. I'm also running Paranoid Android with Trinity kernel.
O.P. Seriously? Put your damn tablet on your charger every other day while you sleep if you need it to last longer than 4 days. Who gives a **** if an ipad has an extra days battery life, it wouldn't last 5 days if someone picked it up and actually used it instead of it being a fancy paper weight.
veryjiggy said:
I find it *extremely* hard to believe that your tab lost just 2% over 24hours. For me, the tab loses 2-3% in 12 hours when the tablet is in Airplane mode. So either I have a weak battery or you have a strong one. God knows.
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To be honest; I found it hard to believe myself but I kept an eye on it for several nights and I saw the same results. If I have a strong battery; I'm not complaining!!
Y'all realize the iPad 3 battery is almost 3 times larger than the n7s? The iPad 2 batt is over one and a half times larger. So really what did you expect? GTFO.
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n00b here, need help with battery issues

Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
If your saying you left the screen on over night, meaning the phone never went into deep sleep.. If you slept for let's say 6 hours and the phones screen was on for that whole time it's normal that it went down to sixty percent battery.
Maybe I'm understanding your post wrong? Btw I cannot see the picture you posted.
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Turn off mobile data and lower the screen brightness to 0 during the day. Also disable WiFi when you're sleeping. I also make sure all apps are closed using the app manager button on the far right.
Mine's been fine following this logic.
Oh sorry, I should meant sleeping overnight, whilst I slept cosily in my bed.
I'll reattach the image in a second
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
atw1927 said:
Ah, you won't be able to see any links till I've gone past 10 posts. Back in a bit then, ha.
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lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
Crisisx1 said:
lol I see it now.. try performing a reset, android shouldn't be that high.. are you rooted? custom rom/kernel?
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This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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joshnichols189 said:
This is NOT the answer. His battery in the image has dropped 7%. If he hasn't used the screen much it is perfectly understandable that screen might not be a large percentage of that 7%. As he uses the phone more screen will use a larger percentage of his battery and Android OS will use less.
If he gets to the point where the screen is on for an hour or two and the percentages are still like this then yes there is a problem.
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
atw1927 said:
Hi there; this is my first post so please go easy on me.
Bought a Nexus 4 which is my first Android device, but the battery life is bugging the hell out of me. Surely the screen should always be at the top, right? I left it to sleep overnight on a full charge to find that it had shot down to 60% when I woke up at 7 this morning.
I haven't rooted or flashed or anything like that, because as I said, I'm an Android virgin. I have location settings off, only Gmail syncing and the usual push notifications here and there. Nothing too fancy or strenuous.
Any help on how I can go around fixing this? I'm a little afraid to rooting/flashing/ROMs etc, because I've no clue what works best.
Cheers!
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Actually No the "Screen" should not always be at the top of the stat list. If you use the phone more than it idles, then yes... but if you are like me, mine says "Phone Idle: 20%" (which is on top) and "Screen" is 4th on the list with 12% (Wi-Fi and Cell standby above it) [this is my personal phone, and I mostly use my work phone. hence the high Idle & standby]
I was having an issue with my phone running out of battery, with very little usage from it. I mean very little, I might make 2 calls from it each day, and respond to an email now and then. I found that an App was preventing my Screen from going into "Deep Sleep" or even "Sleeping" possibly. So I uninstalled all apps (well I only had like 4 additional apps installed), except for 2 that I need (Google Voice & Drive). Powered off the phone, charged it fully, then powered back on. Its been running on the same charge for 24+hrs now and reads 68% battery remaining.
So check the apps you have installed, some use background data, and might be causing problems...
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My android system has never been that high, regardless if I used the phone for 10 minutes or 10 seconds , or not at all.
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And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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What else would you like to know?
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What else would you like to know?
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A longer battery graph would help a lot. If yuppy want top search XDA there is a free app called better battery stats that will help you diagnose if something is running in the background eating battery or even if your phone I'd properly entering deep sleep.
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Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
atw1927 said:
Better Battery stats and battery screenshots here
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See now it is much easier to see that you actually do have a problem and what it is. You have the wakelock problem as you can see from Better Battery Stats which falls under Android OS on the other screen. It also appears that you have somewhat weak signal which could cause the wakelock to drain battery even more. There's not much you can do about that wake lock, some kernels have patches for it but those have their own issues as well.
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Could I just install any kernel on stock android and be OK with it? As I've said I've no idea what's best for me; just something nice and clean that doesn't have issues like this. I live onsite where I work so my WiFi is pretty much on all the time if that helps in anyway whatsoever
I'm gonna let it run down completely tonight and charge it, but I don't expect it to help much.
joshnichols189 said:
And your phone is the definitive guide for what Android OS usage is? Maybe his phone woke up those services for a period of time longer than normal.
The answer of "lol looks wrong root and install kernel" is terrible advice when so little information is given.
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I never told him to install a kernel. The advice I gave is to do a reset then I asked if he was rooted or running a custom rom or kernel because that might of been the problem.
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Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
atw1927 said:
Fully charged overnight, battery still sinking like a ship. 45 minutes and I'm already down to 94% already!
Idiot question; will installing a kernel just solve this? For now as a new guy I'd like to keep it as stock as possible before fiddling with it.
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The battery on the n4 seems horrible.
I'm completely stock I just got my phone yesterday, I charged it to 100% now its at 64% battery with only 47 minutes of screen on time.
on the s3 I would be around 83% with 47 minutes of screen on time.
I'm gonna unlock the boot loader and root soon and try Franco kernel I've been reading good things about it.
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The battery life on the stock kernel isn't great because the CPU management isn't optimized well. It ramps up the CPU (frequency, number of active cores...) very easily and keeps it there long, which removes the occasional lag but sucks more battery. Flashing a more battery friendly kernel would definitely help you if that is the root of your battery issues and not a badly coded app.
Franco's kernel is a very popular one, and very battery friendly compared to stock (and that doesn't mean you lose performance). It is the one I'm currently using. Most people report of screen on times of 4 or 5 hours. With not so heavy usage and wifi (not 3g) I can also pass 5 hrs.
To install a kernel you need to unlock your boot loader and install a custom recovery. No need to root, but.. why not since you're at it
You can try different kernels with the stock ROM. You don't necessarily need a custom ROM. Just be careful to read the dev's OP and instructions, and definitely not to flash a kernel for another device.
Also another thing that reduces battery is your mobile data, if there are a lot of programs that sync on the background. You can use a program that turns off your mobile data when your screen is off and switch it back on just for a sync every xx minutes. Juice Defender is such app, though I like to use Tasker for that. If you use Tasker and are interested in that project, ask or send me a pm. It works great.

I think I found out the cause of wakelocks

I think it's the power saver and deep sleep mode . Anyone can verify I have disabled both these and used llama events to control these functions by setting the events to mimmick the HTC powersaving functions and the battery seems to drain less both on usage and standby.
Llama events totally shuts off radios and such but I suspect the HTC power saving dont . Probably it's putting the radio's in a low power state rather than shutting them off . Some people mentioned that the main and main_host wakelocks are due to the modem and we know that these are somewhat related to the HTC power saving schemes .
But haven't people still had these wakelocks even without using power saver?
Can't confirm anything yet but using llama events to deal with data connections ect. I am still testing can't confirm anything yet .
would be a hilarious irony if true
I use both and a 4G connection all night for over 8 hours and I lost 0% battery on 4.2.2
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altimax98 said:
I use both and a 4G connection all night for over 8 hours and I lost 0% battery on 4.2.2
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elaborate please.
altimax98 said:
I use both and a 4G connection all night for over 8 hours and I lost 0% battery on 4.2.2
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your phones making a fool out of you. now that's a smartphone indeed.
Magpir said:
elaborate please.
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I am running the stock Odex build from Mike and Wednesday night I forgot to plug it in. I went to bed with 60% battery and woke up with the same. I had emails and 3 weather alerts (in to with the tropical storm) so it was syncing during the night.
I use both the power saver and the sleep mode as well as greenify. I have all my apps set to sync and smart sync for hotmail.
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Magpir said:
I think it's the power saver and deep sleep mode . Anyone can verify I have disabled both these and used llama events to control these functions by setting the events to mimmick the HTC powersaving functions and the battery seems to drain less both on usage and standby.
Llama events totally shuts off radios and such but I suspect the HTC power saving dont . Probably it's putting the radio's in a low power state rather than shutting them off . Some people mentioned that the main and main_host wakelocks are due to the modem and we know that these are somewhat related to the HTC power saving schemes .
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Well, I have had my One running on power saver since day one.
As a test, I am now going to turn it off before putting my phone down. Easy enough to do, maybe there's a reason HTC made it so easy to select in the always there notification shade!
I go some days with medium wake locks, never had a problem with battery life and get awesome screen on time when I use wifi instead of the radio, but I'll do my best to test this subjectively over the next week. I will only flip power saver on when the screen is on.
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Can the OP just stop with all his conjectures? First the supposed charge-to-40% nonsense that has absolutely no truth to, now this.
Seeing how the OP so quickly replies to threads about battery, it does appear that he seems just a little obsessed about battery life.
Seriously, if the battery isn't holding out for you, just bring along an external battery.
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claytonlai said:
Can the OP just stop with all his conjectures? First the supposed charge-to-40% nonsense that has absolutely no truth to, now this.
Seeing how the OP so quickly replies to threads about battery, it does appear that he seems just a little obsessed about battery life.
Seriously, if the battery isn't holding out for you, just bring along an external battery.
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You might want to read his previous thread and his responses to why I no longer care about any of the threads and posts he posts..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302030
ArmedandDangerous said:
You might want to read his previous thread and his responses to why I no longer care about any of the threads and posts he posts..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2302030
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Wow. I don't even...
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Magpir said:
I think it's the power saver and deep sleep mode . Anyone can verify I have disabled both these and used llama events to control these functions by setting the events to mimmick the HTC powersaving functions and the battery seems to drain less both on usage and standby.
Llama events totally shuts off radios and such but I suspect the HTC power saving dont . Probably it's putting the radio's in a low power state rather than shutting them off . Some people mentioned that the main and main_host wakelocks are due to the modem and we know that these are somewhat related to the HTC power saving schemes .
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Umm no you haven't. They can be caused by, well... ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING.
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Phone shut off when using LED flash at low battery

Last night my phone was at about 2%, so I decided it was time to just plug it in and go to bed. Well I turned on the led flash to look for my charger and the second it turned on the phone immediately shut off, hard. Not a regular shutdown, but it was instantly off. I'm guessing the flash drew enough current to drop the voltage enough for the phone to simply quit. Anyone else experience something like this?
Ekkoria said:
Last night my phone was at about 2%, so I decided it was time to just plug it in and go to bed. Well I turned on the led flash to look for my charger and the second it turned on the phone immediately shut off, hard. Not a regular shutdown, but it was instantly off. I'm guessing the flash drew enough current to drop the voltage enough for the phone to simply quit. Anyone else experience something like this?
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This is why many manufacturers don't allow usage of Flash light in stock camera once battery drops below a certain level.
Avoid doing this.
That is interesting. I will have to test it on the flashlight app that I wrote. Never thought about checking for the battery %.
Is your phone booting now? If not it may need a kick to make it boot.
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Is your phone booting now? If not it may need a kick to make it boot.
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Yeah, it booted as soon as I plugged it in.
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Yeah, it booted as soon as I plugged it in.
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Then there is no problem, i thought that your battery was over drained and could not charge

How To Get Best Battery Life?

Sooo, I just got the Fossil Q Explorist HR. And so far, I LOVE it. It looks so good. It's better looking than my Gear S3, way lighter, and a lot thinner too.
BUT, so far, battery life isn't looking good. I got it today, so I definitely need a couple days to be sure, but I've had it off of the charger for less than 3 hours and it's at 64%. I did all of the setup while it was charging. All I've done off the charger is update some apps, change the complications, and setup Fit.
What I've done to hopefully help with battery life (again, while charging), is turn off everything except Bluetooth and location, I've disabled any apps I don't feel I need or hopefully won't cause problems disabling, I've turned off permissions for a couple as well. I have always-on on, auto brightness, Fit with heart rate on, and that's pretty much it. I really need to get a full day out of a smartwatch, INCLUDING using it for up to an hour workout with Fit. The Gear S3 would do that as well as last about 24+ hours.
Am I missing something? Should I NOT disable apps or turn off any permissions? Is there a better way to set this up to get some decent battery life out of it? I really really want to get rid of my Gear S3, and I'm hoping this one will help me do that. Let me know what you have done to improve your batter, and how many hours your watch lasts.
Please and thanks!
Man, Fit workout really takes some battery! I used strength training, which detects workouts, has a built-in timer, etc. It used 24% in one hour... I'm going to use the weight lifting one tomorrow to see if it's any better, it doesn't do any of that, just heart rate and calories burned. Before my workout, 4 hours in I was down to 76%. 6% per hour. Not horrible, but could be a LOT better.
Seriously, anyone have any tips to help with the battery life? Disabling any particular apps, permissions, anything? Should I NOT disable anything? I really want to keep this watch, but as it stands, without using it to workout, I *might* get through the day. I refuse to have to charge this thing at some point in the day just to make it until I take it off.
I use mine for notifications, music control, maps, alarms and today even translating. I went to work at 5:30AM and came back at 6-7PM and had 53% left. I also called an Uber and tried Shazam and some other stuff with it. I use fitness only for my daily walking.
I can't complain.
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I use mine for notifications, music control, maps, alarms and today even translating. I went to work at 5:30AM and came back at 6-7PM and had 53% left. I also called an Uber and tried Shazam and some other stuff with it. I use fitness only for my daily walking.
I can't complain.
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What watch do you have? And how did you set it up? That would be great. Mine's on the charger now. It was at 13% just a few minutes ago. Came off the charger at about 7:15am.
I have the Q Explorist HR (Silver with leather). I have display always on, turned on. I was Wi-Fi usually turned off but I had it turned on for some time too (I wish they would add Wi-Fi into the quick settings). Brightness was set on automatic. Gestures was all turned off, touch to wake was on. Location (GPS) was on. NFC was turned off (I never use it).
Also very important is the watch face you use. The more colors you have, the more information witch updates often you have on it, the faster it drains battery. So I use the simple black watch face, with battery, weather, date and alarm widget.
The 2nd battery killer is the connection (Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS). Try to stay with 1.
Gesture controls often activate when you even don't need it because you run or shake hands. So I turned them off. Only touch to wake I leave turned on. The watch wakes up on notifications anyway and time is shown as well. If I need weather, I touch the screen.
I have the "OK google" detection turned off. Never using it.
I hope this helps you squeeze some more juice out of the watch, I was very surprised yesterday how long the Battery survived. But as mentioned, I use it for basic stuff.
Take care and let me know if it helped.
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I have the Q Explorist HR (Silver with leather). I have display always on, turned on. I was Wi-Fi usually turned off but I had it turned on for some time too (I wish they would add Wi-Fi into the quick settings). Brightness was set on automatic. Gestures was all turned off, touch to wake was on. Location (GPS) was on. NFC was turned off (I never use it).
Also very important is the watch face you use. The more colors you have, the more information witch updates often you have on it, the faster it drains battery. So I use the simple black watch face, with battery, weather, date and alarm widget.
The 2nd battery killer is the connection (Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS). Try to stay with 1.
Gesture controls often activate when you even don't need it because you run or shake hands. So I turned them off. Only touch to wake I leave turned on. The watch wakes up on notifications anyway and time is shown as well. If I need weather, I touch the screen.
I have the "OK google" detection turned off. Never using it.
I hope this helps you squeeze some more juice out of the watch, I was very surprised yesterday how long the Battery survived. But as mentioned, I use it for basic stuff.
Take care and let me know if it helped.
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Thanks! This is very helpful, and makes me hopeful since we have the same watch (mines the gunmetal grey). Did you disable anything, like apps, turn off permissions, anything like that?
No problem.
Not really, I use mostly Spotify app and 1-2 other but didn't disable any. Didn't even know I could do that.
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No problem.
Not really, I use mostly Spotify app and 1-2 other but didn't disable any. Didn't even know I could do that.
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Yeah, you can disable quite a few actually. And turn certain permissions off on some. The problem is, some apps talk to others, and you can actually cause more battery use if one is disabled, or something turned off. I'm so new to wear os, I have no idea if I'm causing that or not. I'm going to see what today brings, but otherwise I'm going to reset the watch tonight and leave apps alone.
Thanks again. I'll report back for sure.
I will look into that, thanks. I am using my watch today since 5AM and now it's 3PM here. I have 69% left.
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Another questions, are you able to connect your watch with the Fossil Q app on Android? It tells me that the connection failed all the time while my phone is connected to the watch.
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Another questions, are you able to connect your watch with the Fossil Q app on Android? It tells me that the connection failed all the time while my phone is connected to the watch.
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I haven't tried. Is there any benefit to it?
So, I turned off wrist wake up, and that was the trick! I took my watch off at around 9pm last night (off the charger at 7am), and even after an hour workout and run, I still had close to 40% left. And I actually don't mind just seeing the always on face most of the time. It's a little less annoying the constant waking up and such. Thanks, that really helped. Def keeping the watch now
Glad it helped you. But crazy how one setting can make such a difference.
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Glad it helped you. But crazy how one setting can make such a difference.
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Seriously! I would have never guessed that it waking up when tilted used that much battery. It's seriously at least twice as much battery life now.
I know right, I am testing it atm which Wi-Fi, GPS, NFC and heart rate stuff on all time and even then the battery life is more then 1 Day.
This one function is a major energy killer. Hopefully the Wear OS 3 update fixes this.
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I know right, I am testing it atm which Wi-Fi, GPS, NFC and heart rate stuff on all time and even then the battery life is more then 1 Day.
This one function is a major energy killer. Hopefully the Wear OS 3 update fixes this.
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I've had GPS and heart tracker on this whole time. Those are essential to me. The only thing I dislike about not having the tilt to wake on is, the always-on does not really work with adaptive brightness it seems. If it's darker when the screen is fully on, it stays that way even with I go outside for example. It also takes a few touches sometimes to wake up. Are you having either of these problems?
Anyway, agreed on the new Wear OS. I really hope it fixes some battery issues.
Yes, I experience the same issues. The Auto Brightness works fine for me but the extra taps to wake up are true.
They said roll-out is until end of October so let's hope it's starting soon.
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