Hi guys
Over the past couple of days I have been testing emulators and have noticed that my nexus 7 can't seem to handle games that my desire HD could handle fine,the main culprits being banjo kazooie/tooie and donkey Kong 64
Has anyone else been struggling with these titles?
I am not rooted yet, would a root/deox/over clock help? Has anyone already tested this?
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Its the processor mate, both these apps work exactly the same on my HTC one x which exactly the same processor
Its annoying I know, I'm sure its just the case that it'll have to tweaked by the developer. Fingers crossed he does
Edit: as for rooting/custom ROMs Im using glazed jellybean and it does run slightly better on that
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I thought so :/
Is it something like those apps don't have quad core support?
It is a shame, I think development has stopped on both of them
Are there any other n64 emulators?
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Tbh I'll be surprised if N64oid has even dual core support given how much better it worked on my old single core DHD
Sadly I don't know of any other N64 emus
Its a shame as virtually every ROM would probably work smoothly if it was designed for our CPUs. I mean fpse (ps emu) runs at 100fps for me on some games with graphics effects at maximum on both of my tegra 3 devices
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Aww that sucks
Was looking forward to playing Banjo Kazooie again on my tablet
My last question is about overclocking, if these emulators don't have multi core support would overclocking help?
Or has anyone already overclocked and would mind testing this for me?
Sorry for posting this in the wrong place
Does anyone have any experience with over clocking and n64 emulators?
The tegras need special instructions to really be utilized. Have you tried forcing GPU acceleration in development options in settings.
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Hey guys, after successfully overclocking to 1.7 ghz, with I have been on the lookout for a 3d game that might challenge this processor. Any suggestions?
Also, I'm trying to determine whether or not the gpu was overclocked with the ts alpha 96 kernel I flashed? I'm assuming no.
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jwcoleman said:
Hey guys, after successfully overclocking to 1.7 ghz, with I have been on the lookout for a 3d game that might challenge this processor. Any suggestions?
Also, I'm trying to determine whether or not the gpu was overclocked with the ts alpha 96 kernel I flashed? I'm assuming no.
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Check out Dead Trigger, it's free and pretty awesome graphics.
Most kernels aren't overclocked by default.
Right, I had too use the trinity app to actually overclock. What app would i use for a gpu overclock? I'll try dead trigger
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Try Asphalt or Temple Run
Dead Trigger is a good choice. Any THD optimized game should heat up the device just fine.
Try E. Warriors 2
Download the tegrazone app which features all new tegra games
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Nova3 or shadowgun thd are the most graphic intense games out now. or mass effect infiltrator. dead trigger good but its graphics wont tax system as much as those listed oreviously.
Just purchased the game and for my surprise it is running really bad here. Low fps and laggy as hell.
I have been researching and it seems that tegra 3 has some issues with games from gameloft.
Anyone else tried and had problems like this ? I am trying to find a solution for this but so far no luck.
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Yeah same. Used different kernels too. It's pretty much unplayable.
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Forgot to say that I am using motley kernel. If the problem is with tegra maybe it possible to emulate some other api....
Well...back on looking for a solution....
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The PowerVR / Adreno 2xx / Mali chips do really well with Gameloft games. I guess nVidia needs to increase their market share before Gameloft shows them any love. My phone is using the Adreno 205 chip, and plays some games better than my Tegra device(which sucks).
If i am not mistaken Chainfire had an app to emulate tegra drives on mali so we could run games like shadowgun.
Maybe the opposite could be done either ?
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Heh... maybe
Let me try that ChainFire3D, and report back, because I'd like to think this was 25 cents wasted hahaha
*edit* DO NOT flash ChainFire3D. It sent my tablet into bootloops and had to restore a nandroid. Little bug with this phone won't let you go into recovery from bootloader without it being plugged in.
id say its your setup, its running very smooth here, and lag free. do you have force gpu rendering enabled in the main device settings, developer options? rasbean jelly rom with the latest trinity kernel.
Same here runs great, using paranoid android 2.17 and montley kernel 1.1.1 gpu 484.
Runs horribly for me too. Stock kernel and XenonHD,no over clock. Laggy as hell.
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Runs laggy here too on rasbeanjelly stock kernal, Franco kernal seemed to have slightly better performance buts dissapointing that gameloft is having us resort to using custom roms/kernals just to get almost decent performance in there games, back on tegra 2 gameloft games were extremely smoove what happened here?
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It seems to be a miss and hit scenario, some report it playable and some report unplayable. Suppose everyone has a different outlook on playable, anyway, Gameloft games aren't optimised for Tegra 3. As leelaa pointed out they only use 1 core, which is pretty annoying. Also this should be in Themes & Apps section?
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batman runs fine here..non-rooted..very mild lag sumtimes..but playable..i have complain bout asphalt 7...low gfx..terrible frame rate...
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It seems to be a miss and hit scenario, some report it playable and some report unplayable. Suppose everyone has a different outlook on playable, anyway, Gameloft games aren't optimised for Tegra 3. As leelaa pointed out they only use 1 core, which is pretty annoying. Also this should be in Themes & Apps section?
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You are correct they aren't optimized yet, if they were you would see all the HD titles on the wapstore, and there's actually none on there other than the simple free games that they have, but hopefully that changes soon
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Ran fine on rooted stock when I bought it a while back. Pretty graphics but it's more like watching a movie with predictive actions. After a few tries got bored and uninstalled it.
I'm on stock unrooted and it works perfectly. Very smooth.
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mine lags... almost unplayable.
Could it be possible that some 'variants' of Nexus 7 runs fine?
Let s try to discover what are the settings of those who runs it smooth and copy it.
I will begin to test it here.
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I disabled the force gpu under developer and it got way way better. Now it is playable. My nexus frooze while playing. I will increase the voltage and how it works.
Nice...i will keep testing
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Thank you.
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id say its your setup, its running very smooth here, and lag free. do you have force gpu rendering enabled in the main device settings, developer options? rasbean jelly rom with the latest trinity kernel.
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Hey thanks for this advice,I just ran into this problem and your advice fixed it. So just wanted to say thank you.
anyone tried running nintendo64 rom emulator? i tried that n64 app: mupen64plus AE
with killerinstinct2GOLD game zip rom and it still lags! i guess 2gb ram doesn't cut it
or it might be just the app that makes it laggy(music choppy, screen flickers)
No, it's probably not a phone problem, but the app just sucks.
I recommend N64oid (google it) and sideload the app. It worked flawlessly on my old Flipside, which is a single core 720MHz and 512mb RAM.
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No, it's probably not a phone problem, but the app just sucks.
I recommend N64oid (google it) and sideload the app. It worked flawlessly on my old Flipside, which is a single core 720MHz and 512mb RAM.
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Thx I will try that
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Mupen64Plus, AE clearly states it's unstable and in beta. The dev has lots of other things going on in his life, so development has been very slow recently. Over time, it should eventually surpass N64oid (seeing as N64oid's likely been abandoned), though N64oid is currently much faster and more stable (as it was developed for much longer).
N64oid is pretty decent. I ran mario cart 64 with no lag on my captivate. As far as Mupen64plus goes, as previously stated, its still under development. A sloow, loongg and haard development.
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N64oid is pretty decent. I ran mario cart 64 with no lag on my captivate. As far as Mupen64plus goes, as previously stated, its still under development. A sloow, loongg and haard development.
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Can u try killerinstinct2 gold from coolrom?
Seems to lag graphics. Issues. Might be that certain zip rom
Thx
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Played Zelda on n64oid and it ran smoothly.
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Are there. Any others by emus?
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cobyman7035 said:
Can u try killerinstinct2 gold from coolrom?
Seems to lag graphics. Issues. Might be that certain zip rom
Thx
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Sry. I dont have the cappy anymore, gave it to my brother. But I did run few games on it, when I had it, like mario cart 64, star fox 64, golden eye 007 and donkey kong 64, all of them ran with little or no lag on the cappy. I would assume the N4, with its S4 Pro and the 320 gpu would be able to handle that with no problem. As far as having issues with certain roms, it could just be the rom itself. Also on the cappy, I played pokemon fire red, using gameboid, and I had 2 different roms for the same game and one of them did run better then the other. ....killerinstinct....nostalgia. good times. :highfive:
I tried playing Smash Bros on it and some characters were missing eyes, such as Mario and Yoshi..
Also the screen flickers quite a bit, messed with some of the settings a bit but it wouldn't solve it. :/
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I tried playing Smash Bros on it and some characters were missing eyes, such as Mario and Yoshi..
Also the screen flickers quite a bit, messed with some of the settings a bit but it wouldn't solve it. :/
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N64oid or mupen64plus?
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I know OpenGL ES 3 needs to support it first, I also know that in order for the OUYA to support it(hardware wise), there are some pre-req's. The apk from Play works, but of course crashes when loading a game. Is there any chance of getting support for our OUYA's?
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I know OpenGL ES 3 needs to support it first, I also know that in order for the OUYA to support it(hardware wise), there are some pre-req's. The apk from Play works, but of course crashes when loading a game. Is there any chance of getting support for our OUYA's?
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Doubtful.... and even if it did work it'd run so bad.....
Need a quad core a15, or snapdragon 800, maybe a tegra 4... Basically a newest gen chip which this doesn't have.
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Need a quad core a15, or snapdragon 800, maybe a tegra 4... Basically a newest gen chip which this doesn't have.
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This isn't the first/only revision of the OUYA, so shouldn't we be planning ahead? If we can dev now, get things at least running on OUYA. When the latest & greatest OUYA comes out, things can implemented and fine tuned! Whadda think?
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I think that because it's being developed for android in general, little work needs to be done to get it running on the 'ouya 2'. But it's relatively pointless to have it running on the og ouya. There's virtually no difference between the ouya and any other Android device...
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I think that because it's being developed for android in general, little work needs to be done to get it running on the 'ouya 2'. But it's relatively pointless to have it running on the og ouya. There's virtually no difference between the ouya and any other Android device...
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Good point, you're pretty confident about it running on OUYA 2. Is there hardware specs on OUYA 2 yet?
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Nvidia gave funding to Ouya, so probably tegra 4
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I have a fast custom built PC:
i7 3770k, 16gb ram + GTX650Ti graphics and it ever struggles at times to emulate some games using Dolphin.
Therefore I would say Ouya 2 whatever specs it may be will not come close to achieving this.
I cant see this being viable in a portable device for several years.
Not sure why someone is developing this just now when we still cant perfectly emulate N64 / Dreamcast etc.
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I have a fast custom built PC:
i7 3770k, 16gb ram + GTX650Ti graphics and it ever struggles at times to emulate some games using Dolphin.
Therefore I would say Ouya 2 whatever specs it may be will not come close to achieving this.
I cant see this being viable in a portable device for several years.
Not sure why someone is developing this just now when we still cant perfectly emulate N64 / Dreamcast etc.
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Does it struggle on native resolution, or do you have the graphics turned up (on your PC)?
I think developing Dolphin for Android is a great idea. Even if we can't use it now, it will be very nice to use as soon as the tech is available.
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Does it struggle on native resolution, or do you have the graphics turned up (on your PC)?
I think developing Dolphin for Android is a great idea. Even if we can't use it now, it will be very nice to use as soon as the tech is available.
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+1 the more the marrier. Ps2 emulation would be sweet now too since its a dated platform.
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Neither of these will work well, they are difficult to emulate on n Pc, ps2 requires more power to emulate well than the Wii does... I can't get Gt4 to run well to save my life on my i7-680, with a mediocre graphics card (that still outperforms the Ouya by a long shot) Wii emulation might be possible at a very low resolution if OpenGL ES 3.0 ever works on the Ouya, and if the software is heavily optimized, and if we are significantly over clocked. Lol
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I think that because it's being developed for android in general, little work needs to be done to get it running on the 'ouya 2'. But it's relatively pointless to have it running on the og ouya. There's virtually no difference between the ouya and any other Android device...
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except that the cpu/gpu is not underclocked at all and has an active cooling solution, which cannot be done in other android devices due to size/form factor, and power restrictions for portability.
It is after all it is a t33 tegra which is the fasted one available and uses ddr3 ram at 1600mhz.
Still much slower than a Snapdragon 600, which is the only thing that will run this right now (and even that runs it poorly)
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Still much slower than a Snapdragon 600, which is the only thing that will run this right now (and even that runs it poorly)
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by the numbers I can agree, except that the T33 on this particular platform doesn't need to be throttled or "woken up". If the Ouya had a snapdragon 600 setup in this fashion, I believe it would be amazing, but the underlying problem in this case isn't the hardware, it is the gimped version of the OS.
If we see an CM version for the ouya, I believe we could see a renaisance with the device (as with others that have gotten this treatment).
Oh and I got my wife's i3 based intel 3000 graphics sony laptop to run Super Smash Brother Melee, so low end pc hardware can do it.
Hi. Yesterday finally i can make this awsome game to run on my ouya.. But i feel this game not running well. I buy the moga pro controller but the game performance is not good. How i can get better performance of this game on ouya?
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I dont think that the game has been optimized for quad core yet. Never the less I know the 720p hack helped performance out.
I've been running this game on my nexus 7, which is running the same gpu, however the ouya os is not fully tweaked, when custom kernels and roms start to flourish, there will be more game compatibility and better performance
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You can download the Trickster Mod app from the Play store and set the governor to "performance" and it runs a lot smoother.
The game plays smooth on my Excite 7.7 and TF300. Both Tegra 3 devices.
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The game plays smooth on my Excite 7.7 and TF300. Both Tegra 3 devices.
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Neither of which are running at 1080p...