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Help....seems that my Magician is dead....making a long phone call (1 h) after call end, display switch off and Notification led become fix Blue (bluethoot was off) and then i try to hard reset. Led switch off and no results. I try then to put the power supply cable and the led become RED.... !!! (neve seen red.....) pda is not switching on anymore...any details on the reason of this RED light ???....please.....
thanks in advance
Red LED means the battery isn't connected or the device can't charge.
Try taking the battery out for a few hours and try to switch the device on again.
My brother in-law had the red LED issue too, we solved it by 'kick starting' the battery with two wires and a 9v battery. (At your own risk of course).
Good luck!
helterskelter said:
Red LED means the battery isn't connected or the device can't charge.
Try taking the battery out for a few hours and try to switch the device on again.
My brother in-law had the red LED issue too, we solved it by 'kick starting' the battery with two wires and a 9v battery. (At your own risk of course).
Good luck!
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Red Led doesn't mean that the battery is not connect with the device. It simply means the cover is not properly intact. Try taking out the battery off the device, put it back in the slot. Place the cover carefully and completely. And then connect the device to AC power supply. It would definitely come *alive*
still dead....grrrr
so cover is ok...it seems to be properly fixed, even the smal swithch that create some unwanted crash few months ago is now working properly...
i made a 1 h long phone call with battery and charger (usb from pc) and after line felt down, bluetooth led blue on (was off) and screen with phone but no changement by touching it. so switch off by power off and ...dead...now without battery but with charger (or usb from PC) RED led on. With batttery AND charger RED on, and with battery all dead. i cannot reset anyhow with or without battery /charger....need it...sh*t.....(ops...sorry)
thanks a lot anyway....
omino_ribelle said:
so cover is ok...it seems to be properly fixed, even the smal swithch that create some unwanted crash few months ago is now working properly...
i made a 1 h long phone call with battery and charger (usb from pc) and after line felt down, bluetooth led blue on (was off) and screen with phone but no changement by touching it. so switch off by power off and ...dead...now without battery but with charger (or usb from PC) RED led on. With batttery AND charger RED on, and with battery all dead. i cannot reset anyhow with or without battery /charger....need it...sh*t.....(ops...sorry)
thanks a lot anyway....
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what I will suggest is, you should get a new battery instead!!
Got the same problem now!
Both my wife and me got a Magician. Hers is dead now - same symptoms.
First guess was dead battery as well. But I exchanged it with mine fully loaded. No difference!
Usually when you plug the powercord into the device orange flashes up and device boots. Here nothing happens.
I'll have some electrician have a look at both. Maybe he can find the fault by comparison. But I don't expect a lucky outcome.
on back side of ur device when u remove the battery cover, u see a small black switch on the right side just next to the battery.
put the device on charge..with cover off---it will show red light contunuously on.
now manually press gently that black switch and see if ur device starts to charge.
if u see a yellow light any point of time doing this u may have to get this little switch repaired or do a temporary work urself by kepping it at place manually bu something.
try and tell
Now it works!
I think we all knew about that little switch. But thanks for your thoughts.
Anyway, hers is running again!
Two days ago I took it fully apart. No obvious fault noticeable. I left it the way it was now to prepare it for shipping. Today my wife asked me I should try it just once again. So I held the battery on the connector and plugged the USB cable and then: it booted!
But the internal battery doesn't seem to recover. It stays at 0% (1h "charging" since then).
I have to correct myself: Even the internal battery is charging (but it takes its time).
my magician is also dead and just the red LED is burning when i put it in the USB! Can anybody help me?
Still ned solution!
Can some one who was having the same problem help?
your device battery detector switch(little switch) is broken or logged-out of Main Board.
when it broken,the red LED is on at all.
it is the greatest weakness of magician...
z_qz54 said:
your device battery detector switch(little switch) is broken or logged-out of Main Board.
when it broken,the red LED is on at all.
it is the greatest weakness of magician...
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i am opening my jam case,bring the switch out and conecting sides of switch by a piece of wire.now a day there no problem with openning the battery case or.. but my WM cant recognize the battery level.it's alway 0%.and even the charger is connected no orange led i can see.but the charger charge the battery and battery works for more than one day!!!!!!!!
any one with the same problem!????
or any one having solution!
REGARDS
I'm gettingn red led light too when charging from wall outlet. Charging from usb is fine. a weird thing is when my battery came down to 50%, imate jam will shut down and won't successfully reboot. some people from this form mentioned it's an indicator that the battery is dying.
SITUATION
My Cingular 8500 does not power on. I have tried connecting it to wall charger as well as USB cable. The red or the orange light also does not come on. I tried all resets also but nothing worked.
BACKGROUND
a. My phone suddenly went off when I was opening the sliding keyboard. It had a decent (60%) charge at that time. After this it refuses to come on.
b. Only addition to the phone in the last 3 months has been a 2GB MicroSd Card. I inserted this card 4 days back and it was working fine.
c. The device is around 6 months old (but its unlocked, running WM6 and does not have any warranty)
d. I have been using the original wall charger to charge this phone regularly.
HELP REQUIRED
1. Is there a way to check if the problem is with the battery or with the phone? I do not have a spare battery.
2. Should any light come on if I connect the phone to charger without the battery inserted in it?
Thanks!
Try this:
1.) Remove battery
2.) Connect Hermes to charger or USB
3.) Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
4.) Red light should turn Amber
5.) Soft Reset
i have the same situation going on ... except with mine the screen faded out...it came back on once...and faded out again and will not turn back on.. when i put it on the charger it was a red light.. and will not turn on or soft reset, or enter bootloader or hard reset. .. in addition i tried the method above and nothing has worked.... any other suggestions...my phone was working fine when this happened out of nowhere... i dont have insurance either i bought the phone from someone off of craigslist..help is greatly appreciated
I am having the exact same problem, I had about 30% charge, then it just shut off, and now will not come back on under its own power or via USB nor charger. I tried connecting the charger then inserting the battery, but I do not get any indicator lights at all.
I was running WM6, and the most recent thing installed was the pointUI home screen replacement app.
has anyone experienced this before?
theconcon said:
SITUATION
My Cingular 8500 does not power on. I have tried connecting it to wall charger as well as USB cable. The red or the orange light also does not come on. I tried all resets also but nothing worked.
BACKGROUND
a. My phone suddenly went off when I was opening the sliding keyboard. It had a decent (60%) charge at that time. After this it refuses to come on.
b. Only addition to the phone in the last 3 months has been a 2GB MicroSd Card. I inserted this card 4 days back and it was working fine.
c. The device is around 6 months old (but its unlocked, running WM6 and does not have any warranty)
d. I have been using the original wall charger to charge this phone regularly.
HELP REQUIRED
1. Is there a way to check if the problem is with the battery or with the phone? I do not have a spare battery.
2. Should any light come on if I connect the phone to charger without the battery inserted in it?
Thanks!
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The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
Eamonn said:
I am having the exact same problem, I had about 30% charge, then it just shut off, and now will not come back on under its own power or via USB nor charger. I tried connecting the charger then inserting the battery, but I do not get any indicator lights at all.
I was running WM6, and the most recent thing installed was the pointUI home screen replacement app.
has anyone experienced this before?
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It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone. If not just go to ATT wireless store and see if they have one you can try and buy.
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The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone.
It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
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I really hope thats the problem because it's an easy solution, otherwise I fear it might be toast. thanks for your advise
No light when connected to charger
Thanks all for your responses!
markafreeman said:
Try this:
1.) Remove battery
2.) Connect Hermes to charger or USB
3.) Insert the battery while Hermes is connected to charger
4.) Red light should turn Amber
5.) Soft Reset
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Dear Markafreeman, I tried the entire routine above but no help.
demo23019 said:
The Power LED should light up "red" other than that your wont get any juice. And read my second reply, try radioshack
It wont power on threw charger without a "good" battery plugged in.
Sounds like u might have a bad battery. Happend to a friend of mine "different phone" just go to a local Radioshack If they have your type of battery and have one in stock they will most likely let you try one on your phone. If not just go to ATT wireless store and see if they have one you can try and buy.
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Dear demo23019, I am not sure if I understand the above correctly. Should the Power LED light up "red" when battery is not inserted?
Once I connect the phone to charger (wall or USB), without the battery inserted in it, no red light comes on.
Does this mean that there is some problem with the phone hardware?
theconcon said:
Dear demo23019, I am not sure if I understand the above correctly. Should the Power LED light up "red" when battery is not inserted?
Once I connect the phone to charger (wall or USB), without the battery inserted in it, no red light comes on.
Does this mean that there is some problem with the phone hardware?
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Yea the power LED should light up red with out a battery plugged in. Check the usb plug on the bottom of your phone, make sure the middle piece inside is still there and didnt break off.
demo23019 said:
Yea the power LED should light up red with out a battery plugged in. Check the usb plug on the bottom of your phone, make sure the middle piece inside is still there and didnt break off.
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Oops. My phone's power LED does not light up when I connect it to the charger without the battery inserted in it.
I have checked the following :
a. usb plug is fine (I checked it by plugging it into the Y cable for the USB charger. The LED on the Y cable lights up when I connect the USB plug into it
b. The middle piece inside the socket at the bottom of the phone is still there and shows no signs of damage.
c. The wall charger is also working fine.
Does this conclude that the phone has a hardware fault and this is not linked to the battery being dead?
Similar Problems
I just had the same problem. I had it happen to my Att Tilt and then to my cingular 8525. You should check out this thread and maybe post your info there too, it would be nice to see everybody post in the same thread so we can figure out what's going on.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1783005&posted=1#post1783005
yh
yh i got the same problem, i touched the power button so it wld go into standby, and it then refused to turn back on, even when i soft resetted it. Plugged it into the wall charger without the battery and there is no red power light coming on.
I've got a MDA Vario II and though im gettin a replacement, it kinda sucks as it seems im gna lose all my data
can we try to determine in more detail what people installed before they experienced this?
I just pulled it apart, and cleaned the inside to no avail, nothing seems to be awry, atleast not to my untrained eye, however it did get me thinking.
I listen to music on my tytn all the time, and over time the usb connector has become quite loose, frequently losing connections over activesync and music comes and goes from both lef and right. if the USB connector is shot, then when I plug it in it won't register that there is power, nor will it have the power to light up the red light indicating there is no battery. also, if the usb link is shot, then the phone wasn't charging so my battery is likely dead.
now to test this out I need to have a verified 100% charged battery.
I currently have the same problem. It will not charge via wall/usb. It flashes red once and that's it. Without the battery and plugged in, I get a solid red light. I tried plugging it into the wall charger without a battery and then putting my battery back in. The red light just turns off. That's it. I can get an active sync connection with a dim white screen, but I do not have enough juice to try flashing a new rom. If anyone has issues like these, are you also able to get an activesync connection?
TIA
EDIT: Is it possible to bypass the low battery protection when flashing a rom? My battery is somewhere around 40% so it would be safe.
Update:
Okay, I purchased a new oem battery and a battery charging dock. This way I can charge the battery without the phone before I attempt to flash a new rom.
I still would appreciate it if anyone who has seen these symptoms (white screen BUT with lots of vibrating / no charging / no bootloader) could give me a few pointers. I've exhausted the Wiki and so far it seems my only option to save the phone is to flash a new rom. Thanks in advance to anyone willing to give me some advice.
Hi everyone, yesterday I took my G1 from my pocket (after using it normally for some hours) and it was turned off. I thought the battery was dead (I left it at about 20% charge) so I tried to turn it back on and surprise...no vital signs at all. The phone didn't turn on, and the led was dead. After losing half of my hair, I tried removing the battery and placing it back. Now the phone behaves like this; when I press the power button, as long as I keep it pressed the led flashes red and that's it. When I stop pressing the power button the led stops flashing. When I plug the usb cable, the led gives a solid red and stays like that forever.
Please someone tell me it's just a screwed up battery...please
Neuromansa said:
Hi everyone, yesterday I took my G1 from my pocket (after using it normally for some hours) and it was turned off. I thought the battery was dead (I left it at about 20% charge) so I tried to turn it back on and surprise...no vital signs at all. The phone didn't turn on, and the led was dead. After losing half of my hair, I tried removing the battery and placing it back. Now the phone behaves like this; when I press the power button, as long as I keep it pressed the led flashes red and that's it. When I stop pressing the power button the led stops flashing. When I plug the usb cable, the led gives a solid red and stays like that forever.
Please someone tell me it's just a screwed up battery...please
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Probably bad battery. It is certainly worth it to at least try another battery -- they're dirt cheap anyways, or better yet, BORROW one.
* Solid green (when connected to the power adapter): The battery is fully charged.
* Solid red (when connected to the power adapter): The battery is charging.
* Flashing red: The battery is low and needs to be charged.
* Flashing green: There is a new notification.
Neuromansa said:
Hi everyone, yesterday I took my G1 from my pocket (after using it normally for some hours) and it was turned off. I thought the battery was dead (I left it at about 20% charge) so I tried to turn it back on and surprise...no vital signs at all. The phone didn't turn on, and the led was dead. After losing half of my hair, I tried removing the battery and placing it back. Now the phone behaves like this; when I press the power button, as long as I keep it pressed the led flashes red and that's it. When I stop pressing the power button the led stops flashing. When I plug the usb cable, the led gives a solid red and stays like that forever.
Please someone tell me it's just a screwed up battery...please
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Leave it to charge for 30 minutes or so, then try to power on. should be okay
better to charge from ac power if u can
Its possible your charger could be faulty.
I have the same problem, has anyone found a solution?
Try leaving it charge for a good hour, or just go out and try a new battery, could just be dead.
Sent from my Xoom
sometimes if a battery gets to low it wont even charge... not just for phones but cameras too and so on..... iv had to do this to cell phones and cameras.... take a usb cord you dont care about and cut it and expose the red and black wires..... look for the positive on your battery and negative, usually its marked, how positive to positive and negative to negative for 30 seconds to a minute while its plugged into the computer then, pop the battery back into the phone and try to charge..... everytime iv had to do this for a freind or something of my own the battery has lasted over a year after with no problems.... just a suggestion
Thanks for the suggestions. I had already ordered a new battery and the phone boots up with it but it won't charge on or off and usb isn't recognized either. I tried wiggling the plug around to see if it was some kind of loose connection but it doesn't appear to be the case. I may take the phone apart and see if anything is loose but otherwise I'll just have to enjoy the last 30% battery of G1 time I have.
Hiho,
go to the problem:
I changed the original rom to CyanogenMod (NIGHTLY EUROSKANK [21/12/12]). used one month, until one day I was playing, and the battery was low, so I left him there, went to sleep. I woke up, and he was discharged and placed in wall charger, and went to watch. some hours later, I tried to turn on, and nothing happened, I thought I plugged the charger in the wrong way, I put to charge again, and noticed that out instead of white LED appears, was the red led. Loading left for some hours, I turn on and nothing happened .. (@! #! @ # $) And then plugged in the USB, and lit the white LED, and could not access it.
I did the MacGyver method, to bootloader battery, and did SBF flash:
" JDGC_U6_2.12.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNPRCB1B50AA039.0R_JORDANGCCORE_P013_A033_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf ", was all right for some time, when I put it to charge and lit the red light again, and then pulled the plug, and he hung up. and is now well. and no more MacGyver mode solves the bootloader
Please help
Sorry for the horrible english, I'm using google translate.:silly:
And also the huge text (I would explain how it happened)
can someone help?
cosaki said:
Hiho,
go to the problem:
I changed the original rom to CyanogenMod (NIGHTLY EUROSKANK [21/12/12]). used one month, until one day I was playing, and the battery was low, so I left him there, went to sleep. I woke up, and he was discharged and placed in wall charger, and went to watch. some hours later, I tried to turn on, and nothing happened, I thought I plugged the charger in the wrong way, I put to charge again, and noticed that out instead of white LED appears, was the red led. Loading left for some hours, I turn on and nothing happened .. (@! #! @ # $) And then plugged in the USB, and lit the white LED, and could not access it.
I did the MacGyver method, to bootloader battery, and did SBF flash:
" JDGC_U6_2.12.0_SIGNED_USAJRDNPRCB1B50AA039.0R_JORDANGCCORE_P013_A033_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf ", was all right for some time, when I put it to charge and lit the red light again, and then pulled the plug, and he hung up. and is now well. and no more MacGyver mode solves the bootloader
Please help
Sorry for the horrible english, I'm using google translate.:silly:
And also the huge text (I would explain how it happened)
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Hi,
Sorry but in case you don't know, when the phone is discharged (under 7 or 10%) and when we plug it, it's normal to have red led. But you must have the "battery charging animation" with percentage when it charges... When it's charged enough (above 7 or 10 %) you can turn on the phone (power button long press).
Your battery could be dead, yes... But :
How old is your battery ?
Have you checked your wall charger ?
Is your USB cable charges your battery ?
Is your battery charges well with your original SBF (without CM) ?
If you know someone else who owns a Defy, you could test with his battery and his wall charger....
Your USB connector could be damaged....
Need some more informations to help you....
@fpriot said:
Hi,
Sorry but in case you don't know, when the phone is discharged (under 7 or 10%) and when we plug it, it's normal to have red led. But you must have the "battery charging animation" with percentage when it charges... When it's charged enough (above 7 or 10 %) you can turn on the phone (power button long press).
Your battery could be dead, yes... But :
How old is your battery ?
Have you checked your wall charger ?
Is your USB cable charges your battery ?
Is your battery charges well with your original SBF (without CM) ?
If you know someone else who owns a Defy, you could test with his battery and his wall charger....
Your USB connector could be damaged....
Need some more informations to help you....
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the cell completed one year this month (January / 13). I know that when the led is red because it is very low on battery. But let Loading 4 hours +. and when I connect to the computer it does not charge. it only illuminates the white LED, and can not connect or power on. anyway, the exchange led to suppose that shows the usb part is okay. I've used various chargers.
I can not run the SBF, why he does not recognize.
The phone is not turning on. apparently only led.
Re: Defy Battery dead?!
cosaki said:
the cell completed one year this month (January / 13). I know that when the led is red because it is very low on battery. But let Loading 4 hours +. and when I connect to the computer it does not charge. it only illuminates the white LED, and can not connect or power on. anyway, the exchange led to suppose that shows the usb part is okay. I've used various chargers.
I can not run the SBF, why he does not recognize.
The phone is not turning on. apparently only led.
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Try another battery... Your system could be corrupted, I mean, it seems your phone can't charge in 0-7 % step, so it will never boot... Dunno why, it could be an issue even if I don't really think so... But, to save your phone it's the better thing you can do. Couldn't you borrow someone's Defy battery ? A friend ? A shop ? Then you could test !
Sent from my Defy MB525 green lens
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Try another battery... Your system could be corrupted, I mean, it seems your phone can't charge in 0-7 % step, so it will never boot... Dunno why, it could be an issue even if I don't really think so... But, to save your phone it's the better thing you can do. Couldn't you borrow someone's Defy battery ? A friend ? A shop ? Then you could test !
Sent from my Defy MB525 green lens
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I got a battery from a friend, who possesses defy red lens, same as mine.
nothing. still does not power on.
cosaki said:
I got a battery from a friend, who possesses defy red lens, same as mine.
nothing. still does not power on.
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OK
Did you try to unbrick your phone with this thread ?
@fpriot said:
OK
Did you try to unbrick your phone with this thread ?
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I can not because the phone only comes in the boot when it is plugged into the wall charger. when I connect usb, it only illuminates the white LED. and I can not get into the boot or do anything.
cosaki said:
I can not because the phone only comes in the boot when it is plugged into the wall charger. when I connect usb, it only illuminates the white LED. and I can not get into the boot or do anything.
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Are you sure you can't do any of these two steps (3 or 4) of the "bricked defy Step by Step Walkthrough" thread ??
Even the 4th ?
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3.First shutdown your phone, hold the Vol down and boot the phone up keeping the volume down pressed. you should come up to a triangle android logo, press the vol up and down key and then tap the screen ( this is a touch screen gui), choose the wipe data/cache and press ok, this should take up to 5 minutes.
4. Now, shut down the phone (pull the battery out and return it back in), Hold the Vol Up button and power up your phone.
you will enter the Bootloader (or BL as its called in the forums) and you should see the phone stating that (usually 9.10 version)
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If not, even with a charged battery, I 'm afraid your defy has a hardware issue...
Is your power button still alive ?
@fpriot said:
Are you sure you can't do any of these two steps (3 or 4) of the "bricked defy Step by Step Walkthrough" thread ??
Even the 4th ?
[...
3.First shutdown your phone, hold the Vol down and boot the phone up keeping the volume down pressed. you should come up to a triangle android logo, press the vol up and down key and then tap the screen ( this is a touch screen gui), choose the wipe data/cache and press ok, this should take up to 5 minutes.
4. Now, shut down the phone (pull the battery out and return it back in), Hold the Vol Up button and power up your phone.
you will enter the Bootloader (or BL as its called in the forums) and you should see the phone stating that (usually 9.10 version)
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If not, even with a charged battery, I 'm afraid your defy has a hardware issue...
Is your power button still alive ?
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Power it on, when connected to wall charger. sometimes starts, sometimes they're showing is charging (the battery symbol with percentage in the middle). but I just pull it off. ie power on it, just in wall charger.
if a hardware problem it would not mind at all. (I think)
cosaki said:
Power it on, when connected to wall charger. sometimes starts, sometimes they're showing is charging (the battery symbol with percentage in the middle). but I just pull it off. ie power on it, just in wall charger.
if a hardware problem it would not mind at all. (I think)
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Sorry but I can't help you anymore. Don't have more ideas...
Hope you will find the culprit...
See you
@fpriot said:
Sorry but I can't help you anymore. Don't have more ideas...
Hope you will find the culprit...
See you
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Thank you for your attention. I hope someone can help me!
thks a lot
anyone who can help me?
Yesterday my phone died. I started the tom tom application, the screen froze. Pressed the power button for some seconds, phone turns off. No success trying to turn the phone back on. It was plugged in to a car charger.
The phone has been attached to a wall charger for >10 hours. The phone just looks dead, when it's plugged in and I press the vol down + power button I get a blinking red light after about 15 seconds, but notting happens.
Is my phone officially dead?
Red light doesn't necessarily mean your phone is dead. Maybe it's a problem with the battery, some users have solved the problem removing the back cover.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250454
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127047
Desno365 said:
Red light doesn't necessarily mean your phone is dead. Maybe it's a problem with the battery, some users have solved the problem removing the back cover.
Read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2250454
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2127047
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Disconnecting the battery didn't work...
Next up ... replacing the battery I guess?
Wimm147 said:
Disconnecting the battery didn't work...
Next up ... replacing the battery I guess?
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RMA it and get another one