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SE Arc: same HUGE mistake by SE?

I hope SE marketing dudes can read this too!
I was a SE fanboy since the T68 and I only left them last year for the Nexus One, the reason?
HTC didn't lock everything in their Google Android phone and I can change any rom I want whenever I want,keeping me not to get bored by the same UI...
When I saw the presentation of the SE ARC I said to myself ''what a jewel!'' and was convinced to come back to SE,BUT it looks like SE doesn't want me or many many other people to get an ARC because they didn't understand the meaning of Android OS = Rooting and Custom Roms!!
Samsung in another hand understood very well the Android buyers needs and that's why the Galaxy S was a huge success...
In other words: SE is not learning from their errors or they don't want to?

Hahaha, how much do you want to hate a brand to start the 40th of such a topic. If you visit xda often you know there are hundreds of these kind of topics, tell me, why you open a new topic for this. 20 seconds of reading and you found lots of the same....
Mods, please delete this...this whole section will be a mess...just keep the flamers in one topic....
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The arc is rumoured to be more open than X10. Guess we just have to wait and see

The only reason Android has been about rooting and custom roms is because the core OS has been quite crappy up til now.. and the mannfacturer UI's have been dull and not intuitive or simple... this is all moving along rather quickly now and the core OS is significantly better.. close to full dual/ multicore processor support and the UI's are getting better, more friendly..
99% of users won't want to root and install custom ROM's when the preinstalled ones work.. and work really well.... the magic of Android is that there will be lots of UI's to choose from so there'll be plenty to cater for differing tastes.. and you can customise your phone loads anyway, before you get to rooting it..

vegetaleb said:
that's why the Galaxy S was a huge success...
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I do indeed see a lot of Galaxy S's out there, but I havnt seen anyone with a custom rom installed so that isnt the reason that it's a success.. maybe, uh, i don't know.. Clever marketing?

TimMun said:
I do indeed see a lot of Galaxy S's out there, but I havnt seen anyone with a custom rom installed so that isnt the reason that it's a success.. maybe, uh, i don't know.. Clever marketing?
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Quite a few of the Galaxy S's that I have seen had some sort of lagfix applied to correct the messed up filesystem that Samsung implemented but on the custom roms I'm absolutely with you.

im_iceman said:
The only reason Android has been about rooting and custom roms is because the core OS has been quite crappy up til now.. and the mannfacturer UI's have been dull and not intuitive or simple... this is all moving along rather quickly now and the core OS is significantly better.. close to full dual/ multicore processor support and the UI's are getting better, more friendly..
99% of users won't want to root and install custom ROM's when the preinstalled ones work.. and work really well.... the magic of Android is that there will be lots of UI's to choose from so there'll be plenty to cater for differing tastes.. and you can customise your phone loads anyway, before you get to rooting it..
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Exactly. The X10 , like almost all other Android devices, is lacking with the stock software, which is why people root and use custom roms. I think that Sony Ericsson might be the first to deliver a fully satisfying 'stock' experience with the new Xperia series, and so that basically eliminates the need to root/rom.

Ambroos said:
Exactly. The X10 , like almost all other Android devices, is lacking with the stock software, which is why people root and use custom roms. I think that Sony Ericsson might be the first to deliver a fully satisfying 'stock' experience with the new Xperia series, and so that basically eliminates the need to root/rom.
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yes.. for most.. but there will always be the hardcore minority who will want to root it regardless of how good the stock ROM is - to remove apps they don't use, or change the UI in a way that you can't on a non-rooted phone!

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yes.. for most.. but there will always be the hardcore minority who will want to root it regardless of how good the stock ROM is - to remove apps they don't use, or change the UI in a way that you can't on a non-rooted phone!
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Exactly, but as you said it's only a hardcore minority, and they should try to understand why Sony Ericsson (or other manufacturers) can't always make sure everything is the way they want it to be!

The minority nowadays are the ones who don't want to root and use custom roms
Even if the stock rom is awesome it's still better to make it faster and enhance some components like camera and audio, now if you are a X10 user and can't enjoy custom roms like we are with HTC it's normal that you live in a world where rooting is like a crime
Oh by the way HTC Sense is awesome that's why I use it from time to time on my N1,now I want speed and smoothness so I am using MIUI,tomorrow when the stock gingerbread will have trackball wake and high def camera I will flash its custom rom
Yes yes most custom roms are based on stock roms so you lose nothing you just get more

vegetaleb said:
The minority nowadays are the ones who don't want to root and use custom roms
Even if the stock rom is awesome it's still better to make it faster and enhance some components like camera and audio, now if you are a X10 user and can't enjoy custom roms like we are with HTC it's normal that you live in a world where rooting is like a crime
Oh by the way HTC Sense is awesome that's why I use it from time to time on my N1,now I want speed and smoothness so I am using MIUI,tomorrow when the stock gingerbread will have trackball wake and high def camera I will flash its custom rom
Yes yes most custom roms are based on stock roms so you lose nothing you just get more
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I beg to differ, think about it, how many members here for the X10 section? 100k? 200K? I don't think we exceed 10k to be honest. Xperia sold in 2010 more than 9 million devices. Calculate that then you'll understand that we are the minorities here, 10% maximum

I'm getting an Arc, and I for instance won't be rooting it or putting a custom rom on it. The X10, I would, just for JIT, but that's about it really... Oh well!

I've just had a look.. and there's current c500 people viewing the X10 forums.. so yeah.. 10k is probably about right.. although alot of them won't have rooted either!

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I've just had a look.. and there's current c500 people viewing the X10 forums.. so yeah.. 10k is probably about right.. although alot of them won't have rooted either!
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Then 10% is probably too much
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0.1% of 9 million is 9000... 1% is 90,000.. so I think we can safely pitch in at less than 1% will have rooted the phone. And sadly for them, they're also oblivious of how much more it can do once rooted!

guys i really wanna buy the xperia neo/ arc (havent yet decided ) but the only thing keeping me away from this decision is the locked bootloader question..
does anyone know whether se is still keeping it locked ? or they finally lstarted listening to people ?
thanks in advance

xilw3r said:
guys i really wanna buy the xperia neo/ arc (havent yet decided ) but the only thing keeping me away from this decision is the locked bootloader question..
does anyone know whether se is still keeping it locked ? or they finally lstarted listening to people ?
thanks in advance
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It will remain locked. Same with other companies as they are now asking SE's advice in locking their device. Atrix should be one of the new handsets that are signed locked.

darn fools all of them
but on the other hand, what IS the actual benefit from having the bootloader unlocked ? installing other kernels to implement roms easier ? OCing ? if thats all then im not exatcly impressed
ofc.. the easy rom implement is sweet, but people seem to be getting around the problem and making roms anyway

xilw3r said:
darn fools all of them
but on the other hand, what IS the actual benefit from having the bootloader unlocked ? installing other kernels to implement roms easier ? OCing ? if thats all then im not exatcly impressed
ofc.. the easy rom implement is sweet, but people seem to be getting around the problem and making roms anyway
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well, you're locked to roms which are made for your kernel version, if you have a locked bootloader
anyway I'm not really too fussed regarding locked bootloader tbh, I want a Android phone that has excellent multimedia options, with sleek design and extremely potent camera, that's exactly what Arc is - I bought x8 just to test out Android and honestly I can't say I'm too dissapointed with them deciding not to support old xperia line of products
I'll be super annoyed if they don't provide future support for the arc though, minimum 2+ years support is what all the mobile phone companies should do with their phones

SE has learned that it doesn't matter and that they can get away with it. It's likely that android will stay on the 2.3/4. Xxxx for a while for phones. But I don't think that they will support any phone past a year anymore.
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[Q] Some questions about the Xperias

I'm looking at buying the Xperia Neo or Pro (sorry guys, couldn't find a sub-thread for those). I've done enough reading about the Arc (which is such a gorgeous device), but I'm leaning towards the Neo for the front-facing camera, which is a biggie for me, and/or the Pro for the hardware keyboard. So here are my questions.
How much RAM (not internal memory) do these devices (Arc/Neo/Pro) have?
Any word on the unlockability of the bootloader this time? The first thing that I would do (or most of the people here) with an Android device is slap a custom ROM on it.
How much lag does Timescape actually cause? I'm reading conflicting opinions!

Not managed to unlock the bootloader on the X10 yet.. and we've not seen timescape on the new ones.. so don't really know.. you can get the memory info of the SE site..

exchequer598 said:
I'm looking at buying the Xperia Neo or Pro (sorry guys, couldn't find a sub-thread for those). I've done enough reading about the Arc (which is such a gorgeous device), but I'm leaning towards the Neo for the front-facing camera, which is a biggie for me, and/or the Pro for the hardware keyboard. So here are my questions.
How much RAM (not internal memory) do these devices (Arc/Neo/Pro) have?
Any word on the unlockability of the bootloader this time? The first thing that I would do (or most of the people here) with an Android device is slap a custom ROM on it.
How much lag does Timescape actually cause? I'm reading conflicting opinions!
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1. 512
2. Dunno, guess we'll have to wait and see. Gehot is on the job though
3. Its just an app, you dont have to use it. The widget seems to cause some lag when swiping homescreens, but like I said, you dont have to use it (I wont)

Why would you want a frontfacing camera, the only useful thing about it are obviously video calls, and those won't be mainstream or even practically useable for at least next 5 years ? :O
But anyway, all of them have identical RAM size - 512 mb. The bootloader will be locked for all the devices, and more companies will start locking their devices in near future as well.
And errr, timescape.. depends really, Xperia Arc is lagfree from what I've seen, no idea about other members of the new Xperia line.

thorstenn said:
Gehot is on the job though
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That little brat!? Great news! Any place where I can track his work on the Xperia phones?
refract said:
Why would you want a frontfacing camera, the only useful thing about it are obviously video calls, and those won't be mainstream or even practically useable for at least next 5 years ? :O
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The girlfriend lives far away and both of us are planning to get 3G phones with front-facing cams! (3G has just been introduced here in India, and I guess the prices for video-calls will drop because of all the competition)

exchequer598 said:
That little brat!? Great news! Any place where I can track his work on the Xperia phones?
The girlfriend lives far away and both of us are planning to get 3G phones with front-facing cams! (3G has just been introduced here in India, and I guess the prices for video-calls will drop because of all the competition)
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i got a better idea for u and ur girlfriend:
use skype ?

xilw3r said:
i got a better idea for u and ur girlfriend:
use skype ?
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Android phone, can use skype in video mode too DDD

xilw3r said:
i got a better idea for u and ur girlfriend:
use skype ?
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Android phone, can use skype in video mode too DDD
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It is just more convenient to video chat on the go!

I'm just waiting 'till mobile network providers realise how much cheaper VoIP on Android phones is, than making actual phonecalls ( provided you have some data plan ) - I think I've saved loads of cash for just making calls via skype on my phone instead of making an actual phonecall.

[Q] Android 3.0 on Xperia X8?

I have heard that some guys managed to port Android 3.0, better known as Honeycomb, to the G1, HTC Magic and to the Nexus One.
This are of course very beta versions, but the phones boot with it.
So, I wonder if someone could port 3.0 to our Xperia?
The HTC Magic and G1 were the first phones with Android, so our Xperia must be much better than them and, theoratically, it could work on it with just fewer lags than on the G1.
There are so many 2.2 and 2.3 ROMs available for our Xperia, so why not try to port 3.0?
If you think this is a stupid thread, just remove it, but I just wanted to know it.
Thanks in advance for your answers.

USE SEARCH FEATURE ON XDA AND YOU WILL FIND IT. Don't be lazy

You must be new here!

you will get burned at the stake by the guys here for opening such thread xD we are struggling to get a 100% bugless working android 2.2 and you bringing up android 3.0 which is meant for tablets with big screens xD lol
Edit : also such question is not meant to be in the dev section....

It was just a noob question...I also said that the versions for Nexus One, G1 and Magic are very beta versions.

There used to be an early version of Honeycomb somewhere here but the project has been abandoned. And no wonder - our kernel cannot even run Gingerbread without bugs, not to mention higher versions...

Even the kernel supports it, maybe phone will be too much laggy, as the HoneyComb suggests the need of 1.0Ghz processor, that is not our Case

So why they can run it on G1?
Does it have an unlocked bootloader, so you can flash a custom kernel?

codfreak said:
So why they can run it on G1?
Does it have an unlocked bootloader, so you can flash a custom kernel?
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Probably yes, Xperia stills locked and cannot boot custom kernels
Some dev are trying to make the bootloader bypass, but is not easy. :/

biscoitu said:
Probably yes, Xperia stills locked and cannot boot custom kernels
Some dev are trying to make the bootloader bypass, but is not easy. :/
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not easy and i think they already gave up

Graveir and aldee_s are right: someone has already ported it, but development is currently down.
here is the thread to it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982384&highlight=honeycomb

Blagus was disappointed with that, the only one that i saw making some progress was maxfron, but I didn´t saw him anymore

That had it ported but far to laggy m8 r CPU 2 slow at the min but I think I may still have that download ill cheack for u and upload it if so
my civic

Is because our phone is not ARMv7 & above and the processor speed is not super fast..if u port it into x8 it will buggy & lags in all of the function

Lets wait for 2. 4 but google need so much time : #
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There are already a few phones with Android 2.4 (not for sale, but someone somehow managed to get some)
Here is a youtube video, where you can see Xperia arc running 2.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbBQMERacQ

codfreak said:
There are already a few phones with Android 2.4 (not for sale, but someone somehow managed to get some)
Here is a youtube video, where you can see Xperia arc running 2.4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYbBQMERacQ
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This is fake he just editted the build.prob file!
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You can edit this in build.prop?
Do you mean the line:
Code:
ro.build.version.sdk=8
, so you would only have to change the number?

I think new Android will be 4.0 "Ice Cream Sandwich"
Not 2.4
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your new here arent ya? hahaha! its not very impossible to port 3.0 in our x8 just wait and see

Lets do it again :) A fund raising to support SEMC Update fo x8.

Finally the unofficial update Gingerbread with CM features to X8 has been a reality with the help of one of the FreeXperia member. Although we have so many great ROMs out there it will never replicate what unique sony features is, but through this debranding engine we are very close to 2011 edition phone by SE. We have now the final release and thanks to Achotjan, but apparently due to he has no device to continually develop and support for X8, we will not have an frequent update. Below is the willingness of this guy to work on our device. In short we have to be united again like we did to bring back our great dev doixanh. If we like to have a frequent support we also have to make a move and help Achotjan.
i haven't the device in hand now , so will not be able to release new updates , if you really want to have more update on this rom , and a future ICS CM9 semc debrand engine so , donate me and wrote here on the thread the amount and confirmation number if i have necessary money to buy this device i will gladly buy the device and continue to work on
Cheers
Achotjan
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This thread is intended for all those who want to contribute in any amount that is warm in our heart.
If you will post something that against this, maybe you better shut up!
I guess we have to raise 200 (might change) dollars.
I dont know what is the exact price of x8.
To start with i will give 1dollar (might raise).
GUYS THIS IS SERIOUS IF YOU SAY YOU WILL DONATE PLEASE DO.
Please Share this to Other​
Donation Link
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Achotjan please monitor your account.
Donators:
1. deedii = 1 dollar

Yeah! C'mon guys! We'll riot Sony Ericsson! I'll see if I have any money on my card (I'm only a teenager so I don't know how much I have ) , also, we should all email Sony Ericsson with a pre-made email from here on the forum. So all you'd have to do is copy the email that some one of us XDA members will make and paste it into an email!
It could possibly change Sony's Mind!

i shoud donate ,but paypall not work in Srbija

@IrishStuff09 same here, only a teenager, but i will see if i have anything on my debit card
Im not promising i will (cuz i doubt i will have any money) but i will look

Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.

deedii said:
Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.
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not realy , xperia x8 is realy a problem for SE , why ? cause of drm releated think
x8 its a armv6 cpu based device and it will take more time and effort to make all armv7 libs for armv6 , they will lose a lot of time and of mony also , other then that the reason that why my rom is stable and speedy its cause of CM7 and our hacks
SE can not do that as they need to support the device after the update if you have the same ussd errors its not serius from a big manufacter , also i already trayed even for x10 to build a AOSP with semcdebrand engine and its realy lagy cuase ther is no tweak so i think they can not do that for x8 , but for x10 they can even make real multituch but they not do that thats is another question ,
but i agree that they can update it to at leas Froyo
cheers
Achotjan

...:-( no paypall in serbia....

deedii said:
Irish to make it clear. The reason why SE doesn't support anymore 2010 series phone is because of there marketing strategy, actually there reason that the device cant handle any updates anymore because of low specs is just a cover up for the strategy. i know they are fully aware that this device can do a lot better than there cover up reason. So I think mailing them would not make any sense. If they will support X8 of course more people will choose X8 if it also have an Arc features, cheap yet powerful.
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I see, but y'know, it could do something??!!
Start a petition maybe?
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Achotjan thanks for that clarification, well that is only my opinion.
Btw is there any other means people can donate at you aside from paypal?

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I see, but y'know, it could do something??!!
Start a petition maybe?
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Well if its for the common good then I will always support it

We have to collect about 150$/115Euros. Achotjan need older device with unlocked bootloader or at least possibility of unlocking. Right now I'm without cash, but in 3 days I'll give Achotjan some bucks

Yes it will be a problem as well for him finding old release x8. Im also thinking about that a while ago since we have unlocking issues on new release.

Maybe someone is changing phone and has unlocked X8 to sell?

Im a teenager too :-/
but you can t buy a new phone. it s very risky about bootloader unlock...
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Best thing to do is to buy a used phone, which means he probably can unlock bootloader and it will be cheap too.

i am going to donate 2.5 gbp
deedii said:
Finally the unofficial update Gingerbread with CM features to X8 has been a reality with the help of one of the FreeXperia member. Although we have so many great ROMs out there it will never replicate what unique sony features is, but through this debranding engine we are very close to 2011 edition phone by SE. We have now the final release and thanks to Achotjan, but apparently due to he has no device to continually develop and support for X8, we will not have an frequent update. Below is the willingness of this guy to work on our device. In short we have to be united again like we did to bring back our great dev doixanh. If we like to have a frequent support we also have to make a move and help Achotjan.
This thread is intended for all those who want to contribute in any amount that is warm in our heart.
If you will post something that against this, maybe you better shut up!
I guess we have to raise 200 (might change) dollars.
I dont know what is the exact price of x8.
To start with i will give 1dollar (might raise).
GUYS THIS IS SERIOUS IF YOU SAY YOU WILL DONATE PLEASE DO.
Please Share this to Other​
Donation Link
Paypal
Or Here
Achotjan please monitor your account.
Donators:
1. deedii = 1 dollar
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i am gonna donate 2.5 gbp
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where do i send to it i am in the uk and have a uk paypal i am only 14 so ic an only give 2.50 british pounds

achotjan...that true,but many devices(armv6) have froyo an 2.3 official...many samsung devices,huawei,viewsonic dual sim ,some lg devices and etc...SE,now Sony have surces to bring updates but dont wont to do that..l dont have paypall,if someone now ho to donate without pp,lets write here !
Achotjan said:
not realy , xperia x8 is realy a problem for SE , why ? cause of drm releated think
x8 its a armv6 cpu based device and it will take more time and effort to make all armv7 libs for armv6 , they will lose a lot of time and of mony also , other then that the reason that why my rom is stable and speedy its cause of CM7 and our hacks
SE can not do that as they need to support the device after the update if you have the same ussd errors its not serius from a big manufacter , also i already trayed even for x10 to build a AOSP with semcdebrand engine and its realy lagy cuase ther is no tweak so i think they can not do that for x8 , but for x10 they can even make real multituch but they not do that thats is another question ,
but i agree that they can update it to at leas Froyo
cheers
Achotjan
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But you must know that samsungs android isnt the same as sonys...
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eagleeyetom said:
Achotjan need older device with unlocked bootloader or at least possibility of unlocking.
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(and @deedii)
That's my very first thought as well.
If he goes out NOW to buy a new X8 the chances are incredibly high that he will only be able to fetch a post-11W29 device that can't be unlocked by software - this means he has to take the trouble to crack it open with either setool2 or Wotan (and both methods aren't tried yet).
I think it would be a whole lot more efficient if Achotjan would first investigate his options to either somehow get a OLD X8 that can be unlocked by the_laser's hack or determine that he can unlock a newer 11W29+ / 12W## X8 through the testpins trick.

B.Jay said:
(and @deedii)
That's my very first thought as well.
If he goes out NOW to buy a new X8 the chances are incredibly high that he will only be able to fetch a post-11W29 device that can't be unlocked by software - this means he has to take the trouble to crack it open with either setool2 or Wotan (and both methods aren't tried yet).
I think it would be a whole lot more efficient if Achotjan would first investigate his options to either somehow get a OLD X8 that can be unlocked by the_laser's hack or determine that he can unlock a newer 11W29+ / 12W## X8 through the testpins trick.
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hmmmm, yes, if we dont contact him saying that he should buy a pre-owned x8 with the date 11w28 and below, he might go out to shops now and come back with one that we will have to crack through testpins, and this will be hard. what if there could be a fix to fill up the security hole?
nah, i doubt it. Wish there was though.....
So how'd you think we will crack these testpins? The only things i have ever hacked is someones cctv, and my neighbors wifi
EDIT: hey guys, check this out! wander what date it is......

Software support for Xperia SP officially over

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/phones/xperia-sp/
Latest & final version
Android 4.3 (Jelly Bean)
2014-02
In short:
Expected software support: 1~2 years
Real software support: 3 months (SP release - april 2013, AOSP 4.3 release - july 2013)

News about EOL of SP was for quite some time. software support was for more than a year.

&final version means that the update will not come in future?

northever said:
&final version means that the update will not come in future?
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yes. EOL - end of life, no more official software support.

le grande magnetto said:
yes. EOL - end of life, no more official software support.
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Thats sad, becouse I bought this phone few days ago

northever said:
Thats sad, becouse I bought this phone few days ago
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Don't worry. I am going to use this phone for years anyways. Maybe until this very beloved Xperia SP forum, turned into a very quiet place. At least there are many things left for us to use on our phones, like Custom ROMs being actively developed, and maybe if you want to get all nostalgic you can use some old kernel and old stock-based ROMs and something like that. As much as I am sad to see this device unable to get Sony's attention, at least we still have some people who still contribute to it, namely those developers who worked hard to create custom ROM for our XSP. One of them even managed to try to boot L (lollipop) for Xperia SP once the source code has been released. Above all, try to be happy
It would be great if someone could pinpoint me to where I could learn on how to port ROMs and such. Because I am really serious about using this phone for years, due to my current age status that obviously will require funds to buy a new phone.

TechnoSparks said:
Don't worry. I am going to use this phone for years anyways. Maybe until this very beloved Xperia SP forum, turned into a very quiet place. At least there are many things left for us to use on our phones, like Custom ROMs being actively developed, and maybe if you want to get all nostalgic you can use some old kernel and old stock-based ROMs and something like that. As much as I am sad to see this device unable to get Sony's attention, at least we still have some people who still contribute to it, namely those developers who worked hard to create custom ROM for our XSP. One of them even managed to try to boot L (lollipop) for Xperia SP once the source code has been released. Above all, try to be happy
It would be great if someone could pinpoint me to where I could learn on how to port ROMs and such. Because I am really serious about using this phone for years, due to my current age status that obviously will require funds to buy a new phone.
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Thank you for wide info, You give me hope with this post
I didnt root still this phone, SO i have many to learn...
Now im searching how to disable programs Like facebook with starts automaticaly when u stop or some other programs, I m thinking that they consumes battery while im not using them. Have you some advice? or have experience about it?
IM now on stock version 4.3 205 version and dont know wich update must I instal on rooted phone....
damn, I have so many questions.... xD

northever said:
Thank you for wide info, You give me hope with this post
I didnt root still this phone, SO i have many to learn...
Now im searching how to disable programs Like facebook with starts automaticaly when u stop or some other programs, I m thinking that they consumes battery while im not using them. Have you some advice? or have experience about it?
IM now on stock version 4.3 205 version and dont know wich update must I instal on rooted phone....
damn, I have so many questions.... xD
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You don't need to be too dependant to companies. They will abandon us sometime and somehow. That's why there are developers. Our phones will live as long as it could until no one really cares about it no more but lets just hope that never happens.
For the tool that you want, it is Greenify. It hibernates the app you selected to save both battery and RAM. Unbouncing some wakelocks is a good practise too. If you wish I will elaborate more on this.
There are a lot man. I mean it, there are a lot of them Let's get interesting.......... Serajr Blurred System UI Xposed Module. That thing will make your notification slider transparent and blurred!

Why ppl make threads like this?
there was a thread with all info and was closed after EOL was announced... close this old news pl0x

TechnoSparks
I used now greenfy, its good, it hibernate apps but I can hibernate facebook, and some other programs, maybe becouse that its sytem proceses, and not instaled ones... hm
Can u give me that wakerlock that hibarnate this damn facebook too xD
Thank for this Rom, I marked it, so I will try after I root my phone

northever said:
TechnoSparks
I used now greenfy, its good, it hibernate apps but I can hibernate facebook, and some other programs, maybe becouse that its sytem proceses, and not instaled ones... hm
Can u give me that wakerlock that hibarnate this damn facebook too xD
Thank for this Rom, I marked it, so I will try after I root my phone
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Actually you can benefit more from Greenify by purchasing its donation package. As you can see, Greenifying app disables GCM push (no more notifications) and doesn't really allow notification persistence. Experience with Greenify become greater of each level of "method". Greenify has 3 methods of hibernating, one for non-root, second for root, and third low-level system execution, through Xposed.
What is exposed?
Xposed is a great framework that runs within Android itself. The great functionality of this is modules (apps that serves purposes but runs on xposed framework) run without having processes thus saving your battery unlike persistent background processes
So combining the donation package with Xposed will yield extreme result but will still allow you to have push notifications come in, notifications that stay in the notification slider and many more great system level features.
If you are rooted, and don't want to buy a donation package, it is okay, but you'll require to move Facebook as a user app. From there you can finally hibernate it.
Wakelock "unbouncing" is not hibernating an app or something. You see, wakelock is an event where your device's CPU wakes up in the midst of deep sleep. Excessive wakelocks can cause battery draining issues. "Unbouncing" a wakelock and alarm is a good way to lessen the battery draining. "Unbounce" simply means altering the wakelock timer to any specific time that you've set. Use the application Unbounce to unbounce Google's battery draining wakelocks for free. If you want to unbounce some other safe wakelocks, you will require to purchase the donation.
If you wish to install a custom ROM I have made a guide (that does not attract attention though sigh) for very starters like you. Just head over here.

Since previous thread about updates is locked, I would like to use this one to point out that Android 5.0 "Lollipop" is officially released and here's a compiled and officially confirmed (by the companies) list of the phones which will get the 5.0 update so far. You can check the specifications of the devices on the list and draw the conclusion yourselves as to why our Xperia SP didn't get at least KitKat-based firmware update and who or what is responsible. Thank you.
http://www.gsmarena.com/all_the_android_phones_getting_50_lollipop_update_so_far-news-9980.php
Google
Nexus 4
Nexus 5
Nexus 7 (2012)
Nexus 7 (2013)
Nexus 10
HTC One (M7)
HTC One (M8)
Samsung Galaxy S4
Moto G
Sony Z Ultra
LG G Pad 8.3
Micromax Canvas A1
Spice Dream UNO
Karbonn Sparkle V
Motorola
Moto X
Moto X 2nd Gen.
Moto G
Moto G 4G LTE
Moto G 2nd Gen.
Moto E
Droid Ultra
Droid Maxx
Droid Mini
Sony
Xperia Z
Xperia ZL
Xperia ZR
Xperia Z1
Xperia Z1s
Xperia Z Ultra
Xperia Z1 Compact
Xperia Z2
Xperia Z2 Tablet
Xperia Z3
Xperia Z3v
Xperia Z3 Compact
Xperia Z3 Tablet Compact
HTC
One (M7)
One (M8)
One mini
One mini 2
NVIDIA
SHIELD Tablet
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