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Possible G.P.S. Activation Fix

I'm pretty sure the following tip is accurate. I received yesterday a new HD, my first having broken just by pressing the screen! I was very relieved that just by reinstalling from memory card all my apps, that the apps settings were still valid - I didn't fancy having to go all through setting up tomtom again with pocketgps camera database and warning tones.
However I did notice that after switching Tomtom on, it was hit and miss whether my unit found any satellites. By going into the satellite status screen, I could see that the software would access the satellites for a few seconds then lose them again. I also noticed that a fix for this was to run google maps first and turn on gps from there.
This was strange, since my previous HD, locked on within seconds every time. Hardware issue? Maybe, but thought I'd try to remember anything I hadn't done on my new HD that I had on my old.
"Ha-Ha" I thought, I haven't run the connection wizard, and this is sort of a connection issue.
Start --> Settings ---> Connection ----> Connection Set Up-----> Tap O.K. ----> restart
Now TomTom works perfectly and picks up connections immediately without google map initiation.
Try it if you having similar troubles!
cheers,
mooro

For me this must be a placebo, neither do I understand why the connection setup has anything to do with the gps chipset, nor does it work me. I have configured my connection using the connection setup and nevertheless I have some gps drops with iGO.
I think this gps drops have some other background, I will try a new radio version. Some people also said that it might help to change the polling interval, but for me neither an increase nor a decrease of the interval has changed anything about it.

Not a placebo for me, is working perfectly now.

mooro1973 said:
Not a placebo for me, is working perfectly now.
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Nobody has said that placebos don't work, but the reason why they work is controversial. Maybe you have done something else, because I really can't imagine how the connection setup could fix a problem with the gps.
However, its good to know that it runs for you, maybe it will work for me with the new radio also.

How about this theory:
Because you did not do the connection setup yet, the GPS Quickstart had not run yet. So no almanac of GPS satelite data existed yet, meaning it was an icecold start?
And Google Maps worked faster because it is using the 'about' position of the GPS towers to bootstrap the location?

Placebo works only for those that believe in it!
This device is A-GPS capable.
Don't know whether e-plus supports A-GPS services but in theory this might be a clue

I have tried all of the above and still I cannot get GPS to work
If I open google maps it just keeps searching with indicayor showing no satellites.
When using TomTom it displays a number of satellites but all appear grey and none become active
Advice welcome

Fallen Spartan said:
Advice welcome
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It may be too obvious to mention, but: Did you try this outside with a good sky view? Cold start is always a bit more tricky.

Fallen Spartan said:
I have tried all of the above and still I cannot get GPS to work
If I open google maps it just keeps searching with indicayor showing no satellites.
When using TomTom it displays a number of satellites but all appear grey and none become active
Advice welcome
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have you tried start ---> settings ----> external gps --->access---> check manage gps automatically?
and in google maps, options-->gps settings---> toggle auto/windows?

I am fairly sure intermittent gps is a memory problem of some sort. I used to get that a lot running IGO. Now I kill TouchFlo every time before running IGO, and even thought the problems still happens sometimes, it is clearly much less often. You can find the description of how to kill TouchFlo using Mort script in IGO thread. This makes the whole thing clearly better (not perfect).

mooro1973 said:
have you tried start ---> settings ----> external gps --->access---> check manage gps automatically?
and in google maps, options-->gps settings---> toggle auto/windows?
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It may be too obvious to mention, but: Did you try this outside with a good sky view? Cold start is always a bit more tricky.
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Tried both of these.
Yes I can see that satellites are being picked up but both google maps and tomtom don't fix onto any of them. They all just appear grey

Maybe you should try a tool by htc to try and wakeup your gps. Run the file on your HD and from function menu select chip and then q7200. Choose port 4 and baud rate 4800. Then open the port and wait for a gps fix. After that close the port and exit the gps tool. Then run your gps navigator and see if it works!

Hi,
I had issues with GPS and tomtom 7.
I discovered that it was caused by a modification I did to the registry with HD Tweak.
Here is what I did:
going thru the settings with HD Tweak I seen that default value for AGPS was Disabled so I decided to set it to enabled it as I now the phone is capable of it.
After that The GPS would only work once with tomtom, if I closed tomtom and re open it again it GPS would not be found, I had to reboot the phone for it to work again (for an other single use).
I restored the AGPS value to Disable with HD Tweak and everything worked perfectly after.
Though I noticed that tomtom will still use AGPS when GPS sensor is down, but I can say if this is how it used to worked before the registery tweak because I did the tweak immediately after installing tomtom.

I had a similar problem with Advanced Config after I turned on Quick GPS Fix, turning it off seemed to fix it.

michael_r said:
I am fairly sure intermittent gps is a memory problem of some sort.
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I don't think so. My "fix" (as I reported in another thread) is to change baudrate in IGO GPS configuration. After one or few baudrate change, the connection is stable.
No one as reported this fix not working.
So it seem a virtual COM port issue..

rushmpeg said:
Hi,
I had issues with GPS and tomtom 7.
I discovered that it was caused by a modification I did to the registry with HD Tweak.
Here is what I did:
going thru the settings with HD Tweak I seen that default value for AGPS was Disabled so I decided to set it to enabled it as I now the phone is capable of it.
After that The GPS would only work once with tomtom, if I closed tomtom and re open it again it GPS would not be found, I had to reboot the phone for it to work again (for an other single use).
I restored the AGPS value to Disable with HD Tweak and everything worked perfectly after.
Though I noticed that tomtom will still use AGPS when GPS sensor is down, but I can say if this is how it used to worked before the registery tweak because I did the tweak immediately after installing tomtom.
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Yeah !!! Seems to work on my side !! I just spent minutes fighting with my HD this afternoon, still loosing the GPS device... I had to activate one other GPS app to make it work. Now I just changed this setting and it seems to work !!
Thanks for the info ! You're my king

Worked for me by turning off a-gps in HD Tweak and enabling it through the gps app on the rom.

after flashing the 1.10.25.25 radio on my HTC diamond, The GPS signal goes on and off, on and off....continuously on the TomTom GPS status. it was strange, I have to use QuickGPS to download the data again on open air to get the signal on continuously again. If I download the data inside my house, it just go on and off again when I use it on open air.

Interesting GPS issue...

Has anybody noticed that if you use the gps status app before you use the google maps that the gps connect quicker for any app using gps such as maps, weather, where, etc... until phone reset.
When I run google maps first gps would just search for several minutes and sometimes wouldn't even find the location. So for anyone with gps issue probably try the gps status app from the market first.
I'm wondering if the gps status and google maps access the epic 4g gps differently... just a thought
Sent from my SPH-D700 using XDA App

I did what you suggested and indeed the gps locked much faster on google maps when I used GPS status first.

three epics here. extensive GPS testing over weeks now.
what you are seeing is gps status forcing aGPS vs "use wireless location, whcih is not aGPS.
If your ephemeris is new or has been cleared (the Epics main problem is not clearing ephemeris) you get an aGPS lock in seconds on GPS/aGPS only application like GPS status. But on application that can use either location method, the non GPS Use wireless networks" or the GPS, it often tries to get a wireless tower location first.
I get the identical affect by turning off the tower based system by keeping "Use wireless networks" normally off. this gives me instant aGPS locks five to ten seconds in proper conditions at all ties with cold start enabled.

[Q] GPS hot fix technology exist on android??

Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?

Volis said:
Hi guys,
I have some trouble with GPS, it's take very very very long time to establish appropriate connection to some satellites. On Windows mobile there was app which download data about positions satellites from INTERNET and speed up the connection process. Then have exist some this solution for android platform? and one more thing, have some soft which can show satellites connected etc (not need any navigation or compass just some thing for verify)..
Any ideas?
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Search for "gps.config"!

Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data

I am having issues with some builds sometimes to get a fix.
Some android builds make WM GPS not to fix anymore even. The only way to make it work on WM again is to re-flash your radio and not run android again (Android seems to do something to the GPS that makes it stop working on WM).
Perhaps I am wrong but this is my observation.

nuclearfissure said:
Download tis app called gps status...you can download satellites thru its settings or you can reset ur gps data in it...downloading agps data dramatically improves locking speed..check it out...hope it helps
Setings> GPS&Sensors > Auto-download agps data
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Yep looks that..

Thanks, it worked very well for me.

I have also raised this question previously.
With GPS's there are two additional technologies that help with speeding up a lock.
The first often known as QuickGPS. Normally when you GPS finally find its first satellite it needs to download a lot of satellite information including where all the other satellites are in relationship. This can take a minute or so and if it is interrupted will need to restart. Thats why you get a quicker lock when stationary versus moving. What QuickGPS does is download this information via the internet and store it locally.
The second is A-GPS. When your GPS starts it is listening trying to find anyone of over 30 satellites. This can take time. Once it find one satellite it then needs to repeat for another 2 before being able to identify where it is and what other satellites are in the area (From Step 1). What A-GPS does is find out where you are via cell sites etc. Once it has an approx location it then refers to the QuickGPS data to then workout what satellites are in the area. In then proceeds to only try to lock on local ones which is a lot quicker.
All the fixes for the HD2 gps relate to updating the NTP server setting in the GPS conf file. The current setting is fine however refers to an american time server. End of the day it is still going to give you a time sync to within a few milliseconds. Refering to a local NTP (Time Server) will give the exact same data.
Waste of time.
I believe the slow GPS lock is due to one of these technogies not working. I suspect it is a-GPS however have yet to confirm either way that the GPD data is being downloaded and saved in the right place.
Hope this helps.

Yes, I thinking primary about the fist option QuickGPS.. I was able on my HD2 wit win get the GPS lock for 7-10 satelelites in let then 30 second.. without that 5-10 minutes, then I thing is very userfull to have it somehow working on android too..

7.3.0 update now accepts my GPS.

The root of the last update made me to do ​​many mistakes and I had to initialize my kindle. Again the hard work of installing and tricking old programs that worked well.
All fine until I tried my bluetooth GPS dongle. With the other versions of rom it was rejected as an unsupported device, stopping pairing after a few seconds, needing other utilities to make the pairing stable. Now it paired well, at first try, but on the other side "Bluetooth GPS Provider" by Mobilej.de, the app that used to work, now crash all the time. This app used to work perfectly if installed in the System folder /app and annulling the "Force GPS Position" option, but not now.
Other app with the same name but from Michael Chourdakis(TurboIRC.com), that refused to work with 7.2.3, now runs, although is a more basic program.
Does it happens to someone else?

gflorezarroyo said:
The root of the last update made me to do ​​many mistakes and I had to initialize my kindle. Again the hard work of installing and tricking old programs that worked well.
All fine until I tried my bluetooth GPS dongle. With the other versions of rom it was rejected as an unsupported device, stopping pairing after a few seconds, needing other utilities to make the pairing stable. Now it paired well, at first try, but on the other side "Bluetooth GPS Provider" by Mobilej.de, the app that used to work, now crash all the time. This app used to work perfectly if installed in the System folder /app and annulling the "Force GPS Position" option, but not now.
Other app with the same name but from Michael Chourdakis(TurboIRC.com), that refused to work with 7.2.3, now runs, although is a more basic program.
Does it happens to someone else?
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Yes hello, this exact same thing is happening for me...
Prior to this new firmware update, I had been using a Global Sat external gps with Bluetooth GPS Provider (Mobilej.de) and it had successfully connected and gained location activity, after enabling mock settings with "KFHD xSettings", for use with maps applications (in my case for aviation moving maps Avare & Air Navigation Pro). Now with the recent 7.3.0 update, this no longer works and the Bluetooth provider app immediately has lost connection and is stopped. Additionally, these apps continually tell me that location-provider setting is turned off, even though it is shown as "ON".
Have you found a work around yet for this update? Are you saying that the other app by Michael Chourdakis is working and providing gps connection?

Yes, it fails one or two times to connect, you must insist. Then suddenly, it links and begins to receive coordinates and stay connected properly.
You must let it in the background like the other app.
Now, way to home, I will prove its accuracy...

I forgot the link to the app:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/54456659/turboirc.btgps.apk.zip or http://ubuntuone.com/3yq3ZJKWIvB7Rss37BFE1k
edit: (thanks to prokennexusa)

hello thanks for the app link!
I just tried it after installing in \system\app folder. it does establish connection and says it receives coordinate information, but when I open map applications they say no location available. Or no GPS service.
Are you getting the same? have you successfully used a gps application with your bluetooth dongle?

It is not necessary to install it in System/app but if it works for you...., Once you see the name of the dongle and the coordinates, you must exit with the home button, not with the arrow one, to make the app run in the background. Edit: no, it doesn't closes by itshelf. Is necesary to stop it in configuration....
Then, sliding down the finger by the upper part of the screen you can see a notification that the GPS is working and an GPS icon near the bluetooth symbol is visible. Edit: No, is the android system who shows that alerts when the navigator(whichever you use) request "location" ...
Yes, I have "Mock locations" activated with "KFHD xSettings" (courtesy of 0xD34D), but it works for me with or without "internal location-provider" set.
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I'm testing now the "Alpine quest hiking" app, but by the day I will do with Tom-tom.
The experience has been a bitter relief, as this "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Turboirc) app seems to be the only remaining solution to tie GPSs and Kindles, but the program hasn't options and loses signal occasionally, just only a second fortunately. Accuracy is good.
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The "original" "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(Mobilej) behaviour has changed, in doesn't hangs now, only announces that has been closed and, curiously only if you install it normally(not system/app), lets you a feedback with the creator to send him errors. I will prove if he or they can fix it in between.
later I will show more tests....

Route 66 hangs with or without WIFI (I set it off to secure there is no "wifi location") in the precise moment I run "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turbo irc). With the earlier updates it worked good with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(movilej.de).
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It seems that the turboirc version does something wrong when injecting coordinates to the android system.

GPS update 7.3.0 very good .But hope to soon have CM10.1 . Many thanks Hashcode :victory:

gflorezarroyo said:
Route 66 hangs with or without WIFI (I set it off to secure there is no "wifi location") in the precise moment I run "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turbo irc). With the earlier updates it worked good with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(movilej.de).
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It seems that the turboirc version does something wrong when injecting coordinates to the android system.
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^Exactly...I believe I am having the same issue with the turboirc version not feeding gps information. I got it to connect with position initially but does not continually update data in intervals like the mobilej.de version had. As a result, the gps apps get hung up or stop without this feed of coordinate data.
i suppose I will just use my phone in the mean time, until maybe a new firmware update will change this issue!

I've sideloaded Avare, a free superb navigator, for planes!. It doesn't reads the "GPS Provider" app, but neither hangs. Tomtom seems to work, but its raining here and the test must wait to my way home, later.
By car, friends....

hokie152 said: "Exactly...I believe I am having the same issue with the turboirc version not feeding gps information"
Not so easy, it seems some apps see the information and others no. "Alpine quest" works, so the provider app is feeding.

hokie152. If you need GPS to fly, do it as you said by tethering from your phone.............. or downgrade to 7.2.3 and lock updates.....

quan_1986 said:
GPS update 7.3.0 very good .But hope to soon have CM10.1 . Many thanks Hashcode :victory:
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But be aware of Bluetooth not working properly, yet (Bug)

Definitively Tomtom works with "Bluetooth GPS Provider"(turboirc) on 7.3.0. Has the same glitches every now and then like Alpine Quest, but it brings you to home and alerts you of radars.....

Another bluetooth gps provider named..... BlueGPS4android, installs but I cant make it work:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/bluegps4droid/?source=dlp

Bluegps4android works in my phone, but all versions offered refuse to tie in Kindle.
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I've find an app that connects DIRECTLY with the GPS dongle without a provider app. Its name is Trekbuddy, side-loaded from Google Market.
Is a complex program that needs some study, but apparently it works, I don't know if can be used to fly....

To hokie152:
I've installed Air Navigation Pro, and it seems to react and receive some coordinates if you have set "wifi location" with or without wifi. Later I'll take the car and test it. My bluetooth dongle is a cheap and outdated Zaapa Touch(only 5 euros!).

Air Navigation Pro works, but suffers occasionally the same loss of data failures, causing the little plane in the screen turn as a weathervane moved by a whirlwind....But it runs.

gflorezarroyo said:
Air Navigation Pro works, but suffers occasionally the same loss of data failures, causing the little plane in the screen turn as a weathervane moved by a whirlwind....But it runs.
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I will try connecting Air Navigation Pro using Bluetooth GPS Provider by turboir and see if I have the same results "with or without WIFI". I have seen the little plane before rotate in circles when you stop moving (at zero velocity). It displays your location but has no direction of motion so it cannot hold a proper heading. Thanks!

I mean that I think this program inject coordinates(mock locations) to the system, so its necessary that location services are working, ie the approximate location by wifi used by our Kindle. Happy Fly!
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Now I'm making a map of my way to home to test Trekbuddy reading directly from my dongle gps..... to test if it isn't guilty of the glitches.

Location Setting Issues

I keep having problems "check-in" on Facebook using mobile data, but no such problem when i am connected to WIFI. The app kept proposing me to on my GPS after searching for some time.
Same problem when using a bus arrival timing app which can locate nearby bus stations.
I remember i was able to locate myself easily without the need of GPS. Can anyone advise any settings that i check or turn on/off?
I'm using unroot D802 G2, locations turn on (including the one on Chrome/ Google location). Mobile network: tried both 3.5G and 4G, no avail.
Appreciate any help / advice.