Database Users

Desire GPS

Hello everyone.
I am going to buy htc desire soon. I have a query to ask. Please help me on this.
How would you rate the GPS on the Desire if i am going to use google maps? As is the speed. The screen view-ability etc.
The reason I ask this is that if it is not that good then I'll buy iPad 3G else the wifi version. I am really stuck with the decision. Please help me on this.

restrict said:
Hello everyone.
I am going to buy htc desire soon. I have a query to ask. Please help me on this.
How would you rate the GPS on the Desire if i am going to use google maps? As is the speed. The screen view-ability etc.
The reason I ask this is that if it is not that good then I'll buy iPad 3G else the wifi version. I am really stuck with the decision. Please help me on this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not sure about using it with google maps, but I have copilot and it works very good with that.
Also, comparing with HTC Diamond's GPS, the GPS in Desire is much much better. It locks the location even faster than my old Garmin Nuvi 350 that use sirf III.

The GPS in Google Maps is pretty spot on, and also works very well for Google Navigator too. The lock speed with assisted GPS is probably the fastest I've seen in a phone. Certainly better than my previous HTC Touch HD.

I've used 5 different HTC Devices with GPS Receivers throughout the years and the Desire beats them all. Time to get a fix is nearly 0 (Well okay, but it is veeery fast) and also very precise. Using it with google maps and Mobile Navigator and have never been happier with a GPS Device. Scrolling the Map in Google Maps is the smoothest i have seen on a mobile device (it is easily as fast as the iPhone, personally i think even faster) and it never loses the GPS Connection. I made a trip with my bike the other day, Desire in my Jacket and only took it out every 10 minutes or so, when heading towards an intersection where i had to turn and didn't know where to ;P It wakes incredibly fast from Standby, the Fix has never gone and your position is acurate again in an instance, not lags at all.

Yes, I can confirm all above, also sensitivity is excellent, I was able to fix inside my living room 3m far from window

+1. I use an app called GPS Test which shows you how many and where the satellites are you're connecting to. Also gives speed info. I'm shocked how quick it locks onto satellites. I use in on the bike and car with no problems.
Stimpoff said:
Yes, I can confirm all above, also sensitivity is excellent, I was able to fix inside my living room 3m far from window
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

Can anyone confirm how the "stand alone" GPS works by itself? What if there is no mobile data coverage available?

Stand alone gps is even better as long as u have good navigation software installed with maps. Like co pilot, motonav (igo for desire.). It's almost instant... well worth of money. Paid
-------------------------------------
Sent from my HTC Desire

Can also confirm that the GPS is superb. GPS Test from the market shows you number of satellites used & degree of accuracy. My Desire stabilises on 2-3m accuracy I'd hazard that stand-alone GPSs won't do any better than that, and I've only seen it lose GPS signal once... for about half a second.
Coming from a Touch Pro, this thing's GPS (along with absolutely everything else!) is a revelation!

I'm an avid cyclist, use the Desire with runkeeper & sportypal, it is spot on accurate with my rather expensive & well tuned bike computer.
I also use it with copilot and it works perfectly...
Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk

I usually get a lock when outside within 10th seconds maximum, compared with about 3 minutes on my Omnia without tweaks.
-------------------------------------
Sent via the XDA Tapatalk App

When You are roaming then MB prices are very high... so I understand using google maps is working great when You are in your home network.
What other GPS software (with maps stored on the Desire, not downloaded in real time) have You used and was it any good?

i think my old Hero was faster, but i could be i imagine it... Will traveling in high speed affect the lock time?

i think my old Hero was faster, but i could be i imagine it... Will traveling in high speed affect the lock time?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It won't be an issue upto 140 MPH, I can confirm that. Faster... I'm not sure. I've used the GPS facility for routes and disabled my TomTom over 60 times by now. Never once has it failed signal or lost tracking (in the UK).
I can confirm all the above positive sayings. Apps like Car Home / Navigator will assist you well. The GPS Test app is excellent (I use GPS Speedo and GPS2GoogleEarth at times too).
-------------------------------------
- Sent via my HTC Desire -

hi mates!
i am a newbie here
i use my desire in Greece so i want to know how i ll find CoPilot 8?
if i search to market there are no effects

GPS?!

Why has this been brushed over? Is GPS ironed out here? From what I can tell, Samsung has a horrible front end for their GPS with the Galaxy S line and a weak/insensitive GPS antenna to boot

I don't have a Galaxy S to compare, but on my Tab it seems to be working just fine. Better than on my G1 even. I just got six satellites and a very quick lock, and I'm currently indoors, just sitting next to the window(yes, writing this on the Tab).

Yep mine is just fine. I keep agps off in Google maps and its very accurate - more so than my moto milestone.
EDIT typos.

No GPS issue. This have been noted in preliminery reviews all over the web.
Size matters

Wonder if it has a different chip inside than the galaxy phones. If not then we can probably port the tab OS to the galaxy phones.

Rapax said:
I don't have a Galaxy S to compare, but on my Tab it seems to be working just fine. Better than on my G1 even. I just got six satellites and a very quick lock, and I'm currently indoors, just sitting next to the window(yes, writing this on the Tab).
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, the Tab does appear to have a good GPS function. I've got the Tab sitting next to my Galaxy S near the window at the moment. The Tab can see 7, with a lock on 6; the Galaxy S can also see 7 with a solid lock on 4.
Coincidentally, I did a 'wardrive' test on the tram ride to work this morning. The Tab was tucked comfortably into the inside pocket of my heavy winter coat, producing good results.
Mind you, I've also had pretty good results under identical conditions from my Galaxy S.
I don't quite understand the recent fuss that seems to have been made concerning the strengths and weaknesses of the Galaxy S; after all, it's simply a GPS-enabled consumer grade handset.

ftgg99 said:
Yep mine is just fine. I keep agps off in Google maps and its very accurate - more so than my moto milestone.
EDIT typos.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello...One question if I may:
Since Android (eclair and froyo) doesn't have proper or at least clear connectivity control, how do you make sure agps is off and why do you keep it off?
Just curious......
« »

betoNL said:
Hello...One question if I may:
Since Android (eclair and froyo) doesn't have proper or at least clear connectivity control, how do you make sure agps is off and why do you keep it off?
Just curious......
« »
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By clicking on the big gps icon in the notification bar
Sent from my Galaxy Tab

Azhad said:
By clicking on the big gps icon in the notification bar
Sent from my Galaxy Tab
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Please! Let him answer.... it's about A-gps (full assisted gps -SUPL) and nothing to do with the internal gps receiver.....
.

I'm pleasantly surprised by how good the internal dedicated GPS receiver is. I have an external bluetooth GPS unit (Sirf III) but I will probably not need it with the Galaxy Tab.
As for the A-GPS feature, it can easily be switched-off completely via the system settings panel.

daniel.weck said:
As for the A-GPS feature, it can easily be switched-off completely in the system settings panel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Where exactly in settings?
Location and security ( wireless networks) ?
In the froyo I have (JPA firmware of the sgs) there isnt a clear a-gps settting/key to disable like in the Symbian Os for instance....
« »

Believe it says check here if you want to use wireless networks for location.

I was amazed at how fast mine got a lock in downtown Vancouver, my Galaxy S (and my Milestone and my Blackberry and my...) all too quite awhile to get a good fix when surrounded by office towers, the Tab is much faster.

konawayne said:
Believe it says check here if you want to use wireless networks for location.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's not aGPS.
I'm happy to hear this anyway. The GPS on my current Vibrant is OK, the ones I had before we're pathetic though.

I have a Captivate and just picked up the Tab for Verizon. I have to say that the Captivate's GPS is fickle at best, but it is a completely opposite with the Tab. It locks on immediately when I am outside and at most 15 seconds indoors. I really hope it is a software problem, but I also wonder if they both have the same GPS antenna. It scares me that it might actually be the Captivate's hardware if they aren't the same.

I'm pretty sure the Captivate uses the metal back for it's GPS antenna. The Captivate's I tried at the AT&T store locked on pretty quickly, no test of tracking accuracy of course. I have my old Vibrant next to my New (but obviously previously owned) Vibrant and the GPS is obviously much better on this new one I have now.. SNR's are much higher, it's picking up more birds and when navigating my old one gets big circles around my location and often blips up on accuracy.
The CDMA/GSM-WCDMA versions have different GPS receivers. I know for a fact that the GSM-WCDMA Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab share GPS receiver chips so it should be the same for the CDMA versions.

heygrl said:
I know for a fact that the GSM-WCDMA Galaxy S and Galaxy Tab share GPS receiver chips so it should be the same for the CDMA versions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Would share this fact with us? Wich gps chipsets those devices got? And where the info comes from?
Thanks

mr. haison said:
I have a Captivate and just picked up the Tab for Verizon. I have to say that the Captivate's GPS is fickle at best, but it is a completely opposite with the Tab. It locks on immediately when I am outside and at most 15 seconds indoors. I really hope it is a software problem, but I also wonder if they both have the same GPS antenna. It scares me that it might actually be the Captivate's hardware if they aren't the same.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are getting a lock indoors, it have nothing to do with antenna, etc. but with full a-gps (supl) wich I don't use.
Btw I use only onboard/offline gps navigation programs.
And I go online only via wifi...
« »

betoNL said:
Would share this fact with us? Wich gps chipsets those devices got? And where the info comes from?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They both have the Broadcom BCM4751 GPS Receiver. All GSM-WCDMA Galaxy S variants have this receiver
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Teardown/4103/2
Same for the Galaxy Tab.

heygrl said:
They both have the Broadcom BCM4751 GPS Receiver. All GSM-WCDMA Galaxy S variants have this receiver
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-Teardown/4103/2
Same for the Galaxy Tab.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Neat!! Thanks!
Based on my gps experience with the sgs international, I can say that eventhough the Broadcom chipset is not that dependable on full agps (supl)support, it's still much less capable than sirfstar chipsets....
« »

[REQ] GPS track made with a Nexus S

I want to compare Nexus S's GPS to Galaxy S's. So could anyone there make a simple track with Nexus S walking and driving for atleast 2km. If possible do the tracking with a Galaxy S tracking at the same time as well.
Thanks

I actually have both a Nexus S and Vibrant, so I could do this for you. Is there any particular app you have in mind to do it with?

I guess you can use MyTracks.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

I did a 14km mountain bike ride with Runkeeper on, yesterday. Was my first try with the app (normally use MyTracks but this was my first ride since switching to the Nexus S). Not sure how to share it but this link is a start.
One thing I did notice is that the beginning of my ride included a 28 mile 'warp' from where I'd been using Google Maps the day before! I guess in future I need to give it a little more time establishing that initial fix before I press start. Luckily I was able to edit out that point to get the real route.

Please someone make a Mytracks tracking With a Nexus S and another phone (preferably HTC cause those have very good GPS units) and upload the results.

There you go.
I just made this one with my Nexus S:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U....555383,-44.264713&spn=0.002128,0.003484&z=19
Keep in mind that the sky was full of heavy clouds so I can't guarantee that the GPS was operating on its full accuracy.
A couple of months ago I made a track recording with my Motorola Milestone, here's the link:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...900089483924351110.0004990b6c3698b559c65&z=14
When I first saw the Nexus S track i was like "holy sh*t this looks bad". But then I went to my old milestone track and it was almost the same. You can only see how bad it is once you zoom in a lot.

nicholasbgr said:
There you go.
I just made this one with my Nexus S:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U....555383,-44.264713&spn=0.002128,0.003484&z=19
Keep in mind that the sky was full of heavy clouds so I can't guarantee that the GPS was operating on its full accuracy.
A couple of months ago I made a track recording with my Motorola Milestone, here's the link:
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=U...900089483924351110.0004990b6c3698b559c65&z=14
When I first saw the Nexus S track i was like "holy sh*t this looks bad". But then I went to my old milestone track and it was almost the same. You can only see how bad it is once you zoom in a lot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Based on these two I would say that the Nexus S GPS is still not good enough or its just the weather. I hope the latter.

I'll try to post one of my old tracks from the same location made with HTC Hero (custom ROM though) and Google MyTracks. I'd do it now but the interface is impossible on this netbook screen!
Anyway - for me the Nexus S gets a fix much faster and seems generally at least as accurate, possibly more so.

You will only get at best about 3.5m accuracy from a regular gps device without dgps (waas/egnos). No phones that I know of, support dgps. With dgps you can get accurate to about 0.9m
If you need more accuracy then there are external gps/bluetooth modules that have dgps and fast refresh rates, for about $80.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

Worse GPS than N1
Anecdotally and without any quantifiable experimentation, but based on using mytracks with GPS extremely regularly for running, I can say the GPS in the Nexus S seems a bit worse thanin the Nexus One. I didn't have both in my possession simultaneously for long enough to do the same track with both but I have loads of old Nexus One tracked routes I could re-run with the Nexus S to compare. The N1 gave me trouble every once in a while too though and the clouds have been rowdy lately, possibly contributing, so I'm optimistic. It's bearable in any case other than seeming to take more of a battery drain (again, anecdotally).

OK, here's a bunch of tracks from my HTC Hero if you're interested in trying to compare them.
http://goo.gl/maps/XSG4
(For convenience, the Nexus S link from earlier is this)
As I say, based purely on my observation the Nexus S gets the fix faster. Having a zoomed-in look at the two maps would say to me they're both as accurate as I could wish for.

from what I understand, the gps chip in the ns is good in terms of performance, locks faster, keeps lock longer under low signal conditions etc but isn't necessarily any more accurate than any of the previous models wear. gps accuracy is purposely limited for civilian use and I believe most chips out there can achieve that accuracy as long as they are able to track the required number of satellites.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

eahiv said:
Anecdotally and without any quantifiable experimentation, but based on using mytracks with GPS extremely regularly for running, I can say the GPS in the Nexus S seems a bit worse thanin the Nexus One.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with this. I use my gps and navigation all the time to drive around and the nexus s gps is typically 30 - 50ft behind the positioning marker. With my N1 it felt like the marker was about 10ft within my location.
Also I notice that the gps sometimes misplaces my postioning marker on the map and the compass points in the wrong direction. These arent problems I had with my N1 but perhaps because its cloudier now than when I had my N1.
I'd give the N1 gps a 9, and the NS gps a 6. What makes up for the weird accuracy issues is the bigger screen.

Thank you for all the replies. If at all possible, could someone still make one comparison with an external bluetooth gps, for example the nokia LD-3W. Also the higher update rate GPS's would be nice to compare.
As of the results, I'd conclude that Nexus S definitely has the same GPS chip and almost the same firmware as the SGS's, but antennas have definitely been improved. Atleast now the GPS on all SGS series devices, including the Nexus S, are capable of running a "satnav" properly. Now if I only could get my compass and accelerometer working on my SGS / JPX

I'm planning on getting an external bt GPS module for autocross, I'll report back then.
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

[Q]Anyone else having GPS concerns vs. Note 2 & Note 1?

I am having GPS/GLONASS accuracy issues. Especially when compared to my stellar Note 1 and Note 2. Whether using Google Maps or GPS Test app it seems much weaker and tends to wander/waiver especially when stationary. I have always kept network assistance turned off for better accuracy at the expense of initial lock speed.
I use Navionics app for boating and a couple of athletic training apps that depend on best accuracy.
GPS radio/antenna appears to go to sleep in less than two minutes while screen still awake. Power saving mode is turned off. Indoors Google Maps was comparable with TMo display. Will compare with Best Buy's and a couple of AT&T COR store displays before returning. Just disappointed with my new flagship : (
Reminiscent of Captivate and Infuse days!
$.01 via NOTE 3

Just what I didn't want to read. My new Note 3 has the same issues. I actually had to ship it off for repairs because the GPS was so terribly bad. Comparing with my S4 it is just broken. Lets just hope it is not a design flaw but a problem with some devices only.
/ j

I cannot agree.
I were hunting for 10 hours yesterday, logging 20km with barometric altitude using Oruxmaps.
The GPS worked fine and I spent about half the battery the entire trip (>12hrs)
Ingress appears also to be very precise and nice, I do not see any difference fomr Note2 - except that barometric sensor had a slow refresh-rate with display off on GN2, now it's fast.

Got a new replacement which is much better.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

I tested with GPS test and an got accuracy of 3 meters which is damn fine if you ask me. Never seen it below 5 meters before...

Hendrickson said:
I tested with GPS test and an got accuracy of 3 meters which is damn fine if you ask me. Never seen it below 5 meters before...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nevermind

Same problem with my Tmobile note 3. Using GPS test app I show far less signal strength then the note 2 which had the best GPS reception I've seen on a phone. Having much difficulty locking on to a fix in the Learjet. The note 2 had no problem! Kind of sucks. New technology shouldn't be a step back.
Going to go ahead and exchange at the store.

xero187 said:
Same problem with my Tmobile note 3. Using GPS test app I show far less signal strength then the note 2 which had the best GPS reception I've seen on a phone. Having much difficulty locking on to a fix in the Learjet. The note 2 had no problem! Kind of sucks. New technology shouldn't be a step back.
Going to go ahead and exchange at the store.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am finding it very hard to get GPS lock with this device

The T-Mobile store had me compare mine to the unit in store. Same deal. I think it's a design flaw. The note 2 was so much better at receiving gps signals. Oh well, I guess they want to leave a reason to justify the note 4.

Location works fine, but the compass is way off. When walking it points about 100 degrees to the wrong site. The map does not show the road ahead but the road sideways.
This is true even in a train. Moving at 100km/h should give you a good clue of what North is, but it's still pointing wrong.
Hoping this will get fixed in an antenna firmware upgrade... !

andomar said:
Location works fine, but the compass is way off. When walking it points about 100 degrees to the wrong site. The map does not show the road ahead but the road sideways.
This is true even in a train. Moving at 100km/h should give you a good clue of what North is, but it's still pointing wrong.
Hoping this will get fixed in an antenna firmware upgrade... !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I noticed that too! Note 2 was way better! I think you're right about the compass calibration. Is there a way to calibrate it?

Luycks said:
I noticed that too! Note 2 was way better! I think you're right about the compass calibration. Is there a way to calibrate it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I lean the phone forward, and then back up, I could rotate the compass 180 degrees.
Found a solution now! I downloaded the "GPS Status & Toolbox" from "MobiWIA - EclipSim", and ran Tools -> Calibrate Compass. The compass is much more stable now!

it seems its an issue with some phones
It seems that gps issue affects only some phones.
other have reported here that the gps reception on their Note 3's is good.
On my SM-N900T the reception is stellar!
(about the same as on my note II)

koyanishi said:
It seems that gps issue affects only some phones.
other have reported here that the gps reception on their Note 3's is good.
On my SM-N900T the reception is stellar!
(about the same as on my note II)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I tested the gps reception on my Note 3 and Note 2 in my back yard to give the report that I did in the above post
but since then I have traveled by airplane and can now report that neither my Note 2 or Note 3 could get a fix while the plane was at altitude but my Galaxy S4 did get a fix without too much difficulty.
On the ground all three of these instruments will get a fix about the same time and have generally the same accuracy - except that the Galaxy S4 according to the app GPS Test will have maybe one or more satellites in view and also have one or more satellites in use - but to reiterate - according to my quick tests the accuracy on the ground is about the same in all 3 devices.

koyanishi said:
I tested the gps reception on my Note 3 and Note 2 in my back yard to give the report that I did in the above post
but since then I have traveled by airplane and can now report that neither my Note 2 or Note 3 could get a fix while the plane was at altitude but my Galaxy S4 did get a fix without too much difficulty.
On the ground all three of these instruments will get a fix about the same time and have generally the same accuracy - except that the Galaxy S4 according to the app GPS Test will have maybe one or more satellites in view and also have one or more satellites in use - but to reiterate - according to my quick tests the accuracy on the ground is about the same in all 3 devices.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can almost confirm that the issue is related to the Compass.
Today I was in tram, and I suddenly lost lock. In GPS test it was showing only 1 satellite "in sight" and could not lock, which was wrong. The compass was also pointing the wrong way. After I shaked a bit the phone, it suddenly switched back to a normal position, 21 satellites in sight and quickly locked.
I will try to take a screenshot next time it happens
Is this worth a send-in for repair?

Mine is also having problems. Fix is 0, in view over 10. Not sure what's going on...
Did a compass calibration and it seems stable but still no fix. N900W8.
EDIT: I am starting to think its a hardware problem. Outdoors it does work but takes a long time for a fix, and the SNR is low compared to my S II or Note II.

@Class said:
Mine is also having problems. Fix is 0, in view over 10. Not sure what's going on...
Did a compass calibration and it seems stable but still no fix. N900W8.
EDIT: I am starting to think its a hardware problem. Outdoors it does work but takes a long time for a fix, and the SNR is low compared to my S II or Note II.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not enough to do compass calibration "once" with a program.
Whenever you are in the app that must achieve a lock, while it is trying, take the phone and rotate it a couple of times with the wrist. The compass should snap back to the appropriate value and you should quickly get a lock.
I reckon that the SNR maybe lower. I know for a fact that it's lower than the Tab2 7" which, in turn, has the best signal of any phone I've compared with, including Note2 and S2.
Nontheless since I do the compass trick I get reasonable lock speed and accuracy in most conditions. On the open the lock is almost instantaneous.
Hope it helps.

McBain_666 said:
It's not enough to do compass calibration "once" with a program.
Whenever you are in the app that must achieve a lock, while it is trying, take the phone and rotate it a couple of times with the wrist. The compass should snap back to the appropriate value and you should quickly get a lock.
I reckon that the SNR maybe lower. I know for a fact that it's lower than the Tab2 7" which, in turn, has the best signal of any phone I've compared with, including Note2 and S2.
Nontheless since I do the compass trick I get reasonable lock speed and accuracy in most conditions. On the open the lock is almost instantaneous.
Hope it helps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There is definitely a problem both with the GPS AND the data connection on the Note 3 vs. the Note 2!
I drive a tractor-trailer for a living and use Google Navigation constantly to find my destinations (I know it's routed for automobiles and not trucks; I'm intelligent enough to NOT drive my tractor-trailer down a road it's telling me to go down that I shouldn't!) - the Note 3 is CONSTANTLY losing it's GPS lock, and displays "Searching for GPS" on the screen. The only way I can get it back is to turn off GPS and then turn it back on. Then it'll sometimes work for just a couple of minutes, or a couple of hours before it happens again. Most of the time it's just 5-10 minutes before it loses GPS lock again. My Note 2 NEVER, not even once, did this!
I live in Phoenix, AZ and drive to Las Vegas several times a week to make deliveries. There are large areas where there's no data connection at all, and in some areas where my Note 2 had a 4G connection, the Note 3 has NO data connection whatsoever! And, I'm not talking a couple of miles here; I'm talking at least a 30 or 40 mile stretch of US 93.
Yesterday, I was driving across I-40 west in New Mexico, on my way back from Wichita, KS, and Google Navigation, when it was working, looked terrible on the screen - the roads were all fuzzy and "bloated" because, apparently, it wasn't downloading all the map data.
My Note 3 experience so far has been terrible (I'm experiencing a myriad of other problems, too - TERRIBLE Bluetooth call audio; sounds on the phone, except for my music being played through PowerAmp, just stopped working, even though ALL volumes were at maximum, had to reboot to get them working; screen is "jittery" when typing, it'll sometimes type multiple characters as if I'm rapidly pressing the keys, etc, etc!); I'm returning it today to AT&T for another one. If I have problems with that one, though, I'm returning it for another Note 2!
This makes me VERY sorry I sold my Note 2 on Craigslist!
Dennis

dmw_4814 said:
There is definitely a problem both with the GPS AND the data connection on the Note 3 vs. the Note 2!
I drive a tractor-trailer for a living and use Google Navigation constantly to find my destinations (I know it's routed for automobiles and not trucks; I'm intelligent enough to NOT drive my tractor-trailer down a road it's telling me to go down that I shouldn't!) - the Note 3 is CONSTANTLY losing it's GPS lock, and displays "Searching for GPS" on the screen. The only way I can get it back is to turn off GPS and then turn it back on. Then it'll sometimes work for just a couple of minutes, or a couple of hours before it happens again. Most of the time it's just 5-10 minutes before it loses GPS lock again. My Note 2 NEVER, not even once, did this!
I live in Phoenix, AZ and drive to Las Vegas several times a week to make deliveries. There are large areas where there's no data connection at all, and in some areas where my Note 2 had a 4G connection, the Note 3 has NO data connection whatsoever! And, I'm not talking a couple of miles here; I'm talking at least a 30 or 40 mile stretch of US 93.
Yesterday, I was driving across I-40 west in New Mexico, on my way back from Wichita, KS, and Google Navigation, when it was working, looked terrible on the screen - the roads were all fuzzy and "bloated" because, apparently, it wasn't downloading all the map data.
My Note 3 experience so far has been terrible (I'm experiencing a myriad of other problems, too - TERRIBLE Bluetooth call audio; sounds on the phone, except for my music being played through PowerAmp, just stopped working, even though ALL volumes were at maximum, had to reboot to get them working; screen is "jittery" when typing, it'll sometimes type multiple characters as if I'm rapidly pressing the keys, etc, etc!); I'm returning it today to AT&T for another one. If I have problems with that one, though, I'm returning it for another Note 2!
This makes me VERY sorry I sold my Note 2 on Craigslist!
Dennis
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is essentially what's happening with my ATT Note3.
GPS just drops in the middle of navigating; the notification-bar icon just goes away. I have to toggle GPS off and back on for it to work again. While it's working, it never works well; there's at least a 15sec 'lag' time from when I move to when the screen actually updates my position - but it never truly gets a precise location. I can go to a specific location 5 different times and I'll be 15 yards away in different directions each time.
This is in any of the various mapping/navigation/gps apps, but is most notable infuriating while Ingressing.

Weird that has never happened to me. Perhaps there is a background app that makes some confusion. I have extensively tested the GPS in the last days and I confirm that the only problem that I have is with the compass, rotating the phone a couple of times makes the GPS works fine. The navigation is very good so far. However this was always in the city where the reception is good and the 4G connection is always present.
Good luck
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app

Which gps-enabled watch?

Hi, all.
Getting into mountain biking and don't want to bust my cell phone, so looking for something that has gps to track speed, distance, etc., while not too heavy on the wallet.
Suggestions? Looked up one ebay and came across this thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-S...939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e915454d3
Also have some used Lg G watches for around the same price.
Thanks!

RussianBear said:
Hi, all.
Getting into mountain biking and don't want to bust my cell phone, so looking for something that has gps to track speed, distance, etc., while not too heavy on the wallet.
Suggestions? Looked up one ebay and came across this thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bluetooth-S...939?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e915454d3
Also have some used Lg G watches for around the same price.
Thanks!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So far, the sony smartwatch 3 is the only android wear smartwatch which has gps. It's great!

Notice in the ad none of the people are actually wearing it. That is a tip off that they are stock photographs and that the product is probably massive. The battery capacity also leads me to believe it is a monster.

Best bet is Sony sw 3. Love mine and GPS functionality is great!
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app

Hi,
I confirm that there is no GPS in G Watch.
For sw3, do you know how long you can use GPS?
I guess it reduces battery life, but can we track path during 2 hours or more?

Ecrou said:
Hi,
I confirm that there is no GPS in G Watch.
For sw3, do you know how long you can use GPS?
I guess it reduces battery life, but can we track path during 2 hours or more?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've heard anywhere between 5-6 hours. Which sounds about right because when I go running for an hour or so, it goes down about 20%. This is with Bluetooth headphones connected listening to music as well.
Sent from my SM-N910V using XDA Free mobile app

hecksagon said:
Notice in the ad none of the people are actually wearing it. That is a tip off that they are stock photographs and that the product is probably massive. The battery capacity also leads me to believe it is a monster.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I literally loled at those pictures!