Hi guys.
I'm going to be buying the note in the next couple of days. I'm aiming for the 16gb version. Just reading through quickly about the micro sd cards and the fats problems, I'm wondering if that's an issue when viewing movies stored in the sd card instead of the main memory.
I know that the notr wont allow the sd card to store applications similarly to the galaxy s3 but that's not a big problem as the use of the note will be mostly for travelling, internet etc.
Many thanks
Vas
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I am not sure what you asking. Can you explain what exact problem you found in Note?
As of right now the Note 10.1 doesn't support exfat for the microsd card so you are limited to fat32. Thus you cannot have a file over 4gb in size. Other than that there is no problem. Movies and such play just fine off the sd card. I'm assuming that it will get exfat support as it is supposed to support 64gb sd cards which normally ship as exfat and are a PITA to get formatted as fat32.
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You can you format the card as NTFS and give this app a shot. (ROOT REQUIRED! )
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter
NTFS supports files over 4GB, so 720p or 1080p mkvs woun't be a problem!
Also this solution is better because ntfs has support on all OSes (pc, *nix). Exfat has limited support on linux (exists as paid or free alfa driver).
PMentior said:
I'm assuming that it will get exfat support as it is supposed to support 64gb sd cards which normally ship as exfat and are a PITA to get formatted as fat32.
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It's a total PITA. If you have another Android device with a MicroSD slot you can try formatting the card in that device first. A lot of people have had luck that way. I tried reformatting a 64GB SanDisk card to FAT using multiple different programs and the Note still wouldn't mount the card or give me the formattng option. Here's the solution, I know it's stupid.
1) Download EaseUS Partition Manager (it's free) - http://www.partition-tool.com/landing/home-download.htm
2) Take a blank FAT MicroSD card and mount it to your PC
3) Have the 64GB mounted at the same time so it too shows up on your PC
4) Using the clone wizard, clone the FAT card to the 64GB card. Make sure to expand the size of the 64GB card before cloning so it doesn't pick up the size of the smaller card.
It's half-ass but works. I'm really hoping exFAT support comes in an update. The SGS3 handles it and the Note’s guts are pretty much the same. It may not though because the user manual specifically says "your device supports FAT."
Good luck.
So up to what size on fat32sd cards will they work?
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So up to what size on fat32sd cards will they work?
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32GB. Also, they changed the specs on the U.S., UK, and HK sites to a maximum SD card size of 32GB. So unless you do the gymnastic approach I posted to get a 64GB card from exFAT to FAT, 32GB is the limit for storage expansion.
Many thanks. I think a 32GB will be more than enough for me.
Thanks for all your answers chaps. Looking forward to ordering a white one!
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BarryH_GEG said:
4) Using the clone wizard, clone the FAT card to the 64GB card. Make sure to expand the size of the 64GB card before cloning so it doesn't pick up the size of the smaller card.
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How to expand the 64GB? I have 32 and 64 but whatever I do I cannot expand the 64gb.
Did you mean I should format it in Fat32 to 64GB?
I actually used EaseUS to format the 64GB SD in Fat32 and it seem to work. Did not use clone just copied thze files afterwards.
fscherz said:
How to expand the 64GB? I have 32 and 64 but whatever I do I cannot expand the 64gb.
Did you mean I should format it in Fat32 to 64GB?
I actually used EaseUS to format the 64GB SD in Fat32 and it seem to work. Did not use clone just copied thze files afterwards.
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Was it a SanDisk SDXC 64GB card? I tried everything including EaseUS to format it in to FAT but the Note still wouldn't mount it or provide the option to format it itself.
If anyone does have to use the clone process like I did, here's how to get the full 64GB on the exFAT card being formatted. In the last step of the process EaseUS shows bar graphs of the FAT card and exFAT card stacked over each other. The 64GB exFAT card will show the protected partition and 32GB of space allocated. Grab the end of tbe box showing 32GB and slide it to the right to expand it to the full 64GB available on the disk.
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Was it a SanDisk SDXC 64GB card?
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Yes, it's a SanDisk Ultra 64GB class 10 microSDXC.
The main point was for me not to format it in exFAT or NTFS as my Win7 offered but with EaseUS to normal FAT32 and set cluster size to 32 or 64KB (I 4got).
32kb cluster size is the sd card association recommendation.
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Not sure if anyone else is aware of this?
I just got a Moto G & upgraded to Lollipoop & have put a 128gb micro sd card in & it works a treat. No problems so far.
Has anyone else tried a card above 32gb?
Yep, I wonder why they claim such limitations, I've been using a 64Gb micro SD for almost a year and no problem, no crazy formatting was needed or anything
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great to know it works on 128GB Sd cards, I was wondering, I might just try now
I received a 128gb SD Card as a gift in a store, i didn't even put it in my phone because i through it won't work, but in a day i was bored so i just put it in for the matters of testing and it worked. I don't know either why they say that "only 32 or 64gb are supported".
All sd sard bigger then 33 gb comes with Microsoft exfat file system as default and Microsoft have copyright of this file system to add support of this file system manufacturer need to buy licence for Microsoft so it wouldn't added to our phone but if you format it in fat32 it work without any issues.
Fat32 64bg sandisk works perfect
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All sd sard bigger then 33 gb comes with Microsoft exfat file system as default and Microsoft have copyright of this file system to add support of this file system manufacturer need to buy licence for Microsoft so it wouldn't added to our phone but if you format it in fat32 it work without any issues.
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Yes. You're right. I read somewhere that, OEMs do that to avoid royalty fee. If they claim their device supports 128GB they have to pay dome fee to Microsoft.
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Hi all. Have a quick question about sd cards. I have an M8 now and a pure on order my question is can I swap cards back and forth between the two phones? Or is the card formatted for that specific phone? TIA
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Hi all. Have a quick question about sd cards. I have an M8 now and a pure on order my question is can I swap cards back and forth between the two phones? Or is the card formatted for that specific phone? TIA
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You should be able to swap back and forth, particularly if the SD card formatted as FAT32.
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You should be able to swap back and forth, particularly if the SD card formatted as FAT32.
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That begs the question how do I tell how it's formatted? I just let my M8 do it
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That begs the question how do I tell how it's formatted? I just let my M8 do it
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If you have a Mac, mount the card on it and check Disk Utility. It'll tell you. I can't remember what you have to do on Windows. There's probably some app for Android that'll tell you, too, though I don't know what it would be. I was looking for one awhile back. ES File Explorer and Solid Explorer don't, afaik. It's possible that whatever you used for the M8 to format it will tell you. Ultimately, it won't matter one way or the other if the card works on the Moto X. No harm is likely in swapping it in and giving it a try, though a backup (of the sd card) is always in order if there's even the remotest concern. If it doesn't get recognized by the Moto X, and it turns out that it's ExFAT, you could copy the data off of it to a safe place, format it as FAT32, then copy the data back again. Formatting in with Disk Utility on a Mac is quick and easy. Again, I don't remember for sure what you have to do on recent versions of Windows. I formatted one recently on Win 10 and I think I had to use the command line. Formatting used to be available from Windows Explorer. Maybe it still is.
Wouldn't NTSF be a 1000x better though fat goes by box layers. One block goes corrupt and the whole file falls to pieces. Sometimes the entire SD card.
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Wouldn't NTSF be a 1000x better though fat goes by box layers. One block goes corrupt and the whole file falls to pieces. Sometimes the entire SD card.
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NTSF is not natively supported by Android. There is an app or two on the Play Store that'll allow the device to read NTFS and a couple of other formats. I think some people have formatted external sd cards to ext4 (that's what the internal storage is usually formatted to) with some success. I haven't tried that.
I pulled the SD card out of my M9 and put it in my MXP and it worked fine... All my pics and movies were there and accessible.
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I pulled the SD card out of my M9 and put it in my MXP and it worked fine... All my pics and movies were there and accessible.
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Thank you sir you are a gentleman and a scholar
Does anyone have any problem with there head unit not taking 64gb cards. Whats the most it will take? SanDisk Ultra Plus 64gb won't work.
32gb maximum. (I noticed In the specs listed on Amazon.c om)
Format it to FAT32. I'm using 128gb Samsung MicroSD.
Yes you MUST format it to FAT32. These boxes (and many android devices) can not read ExFAT Formatted SD Cards. New versions of Windows can't format FAT32 from the regular disk format gui. You have to do this:
cmd (Win+R and type cmd)
diskpartlist disk
select disk 1 (1 must be a number of your flash card)
clean (this command erase all data on selected disk!!!!)
create partition primary
select partition 1
format fs=fat32
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ALSO, make sure its not fake. The market is totally saturated with people selling fake SD Cards as "64" when they are only 16 or 8, and you only find out when you "fill it up".
http://oeding.com/tutorial-how-to-spot-a-fake-memory-card/
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Yes you MUST format it to FAT32. These boxes (and many android devices) can not read ExFAT Formatted SD Cards. New versions of Windows can't format FAT32 from the regular disk format gui. You have to do this:
ALSO, make sure its not fake. The market is totally saturated with people selling fake SD Cards as "64" when they are only 16 or 8, and you only find out when you "fill it up".
http://oeding.com/tutorial-how-to-spot-a-fake-memory-card/
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has anyone tried anything bigger in FAT32? 200 or 256?
I'm using 200gb fat 32 for flac. no issues.
I am using a 1tb Extreme SSD sandisk fat32 no issues... I thought for sure there would be the 328gb limit but nope I have 1tb of music(FLAC and SACD). It does take about 1 minute after I start head unit for it to load external storage but vanilla music loads and organizes the tracks instantly. MAKE SURE to eject the external storage in settings>storage before removing if you have it set for high write speeds. You have to do this on Android and windows.
Fubar 2000 skips but vanilla music works flawlessly.
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I'm using 200gb fat 32 for flac. no issues.
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great thanks
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great thanks
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BTW it's a U1 card not U3, nothing expensive
Hi everyone,
I just bought a Micro SD evo+ (Samsung 64 GB) for my moto G plus. I formatted it as an internal storage. I moved few of my apps. However, I dont know how to move music and photos. There is no option for that. In the SD card menu, when I click on migrate data, it says "There was an error in estimating the data to be moved".
I was wondering if anyone can help me please.
Kind regards
I'm seeing that same error message when I try to migrate data on my G4. Has anyone any idea what's causing this and how to fix?
It's due to the security features of Marshmallow.
There is no permission for direct write access to sd card by default.
I had to format my SD card as a portable storage in order to migrate my photos and music. However, in that case, App data cannot be saved on the sd card. As an internal storage, the Apps can be saved on sd card but I could not migrate my photos and music. It is posdible that it has something to do with the Marshmallow security. I have also heard that such issue exists for 64 FB cards. I d be certain if one could try a 32 GB sd card.
Cheers
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I had to format my SD card as a portable storage in order to migrate my photos and music. However, in that case, App data cannot be saved on the sd card. As an internal storage, the Apps can be saved on sd card but I could not migrate my photos and music. It is posdible that it has something to do with the Marshmallow security. I have also heard that such issue exists for 64 FB cards. I d be certain if one could try a 32 GB sd card.
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For the same reason Azal3a mentioned above, that's the way it works.
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I have exactly the same issue with my 128gb Samsung Evo card, but I also tried SanDisk 32gb and this didn't work
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It's due to the security features of Marshmallow.
There is no permission for direct write access to sd card by default.
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But is there a solution? How do you actually make it work?
When you format the SD as "internal storage" you don't have a SD anymore, it's all one big storage space.
If you format the SD normal, then the photo and video app (and other apps like maps) might let you save on the SD - will be inside each app settings. But the apps cannot be moved on SD.
My experience with it is same as above. If you format it as internal it makes it added as virtual drive space. Kinda like adding an external drive to an Xbox. It make it virtual hard drive. Formating at removable makes it slower but an be used as raw storage standalone and removable.
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When you format the SD as "internal storage" you don't have a SD anymore, it's all one big storage space.
If you format the SD normal, then the photo and video app (and other apps like maps) might let you save on the SD - will be inside each app settings. But the apps cannot be moved on SD.
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LOL, this has been discussed dozens of times on XDA going back to the Moto G3. Even with it used as internal, there is actually very little space it will save you when you discount system apps and the apps that developers block from installing to the SD.
Actually people don't realize that they need a premium SD to even come close of the speed that internal storage has. They buy crappy SD from eBay and expect to launch apps from that... ridiculous. That's why MM imposed those restrictions.
To be used as adopted storage, the SD needs to be at least "UHS I, class 3", with 90MB/s read and write speeds.
Thanks for the useless reply. While it is true that performance will be better with faster cards there's no definite reason other cards should not be able to be used and your reply does nothing to address the original posters question. Has anyone found a solution or shall I look into wiping my phone and installing ubuntu?
Kambiz983 said:
Hi everyone,
I just bought a Micro SD evo+ (Samsung 64 GB) for my moto G plus. I formatted it as an internal storage. I moved few of my apps. However, I dont know how to move music and photos. There is no option for that. In the SD card menu, when I click on migrate data, it says "There was an error in estimating the data to be moved".
I was wondering if anyone can help me please.
Kind regards
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Try clearing cache and then migrate.
Is it possible to use a microSD formatted to ext4 in our phones? It's come to the point where I could store all my music on a single 256GB card instead of streaming it all the time, but many of my filenames are not FAT compatible and I don't want to rename if I don't have to.
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Is it possible to use a microSD formatted to ext4 in our phones? It's come to the point where I could store all my music on a single 256GB card instead of streaming it all the time, but many of my filenames are not FAT compatible and I don't want to rename if I don't have to.
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I was struggling with 256GB microSDXC too. The only way seems to be custom, not stock-like ROM which wasn't a good choice in my case because I'm not good with high handheld temperatures. Finally i went with exFAT because I need large file support.