My n7 turns off wifi when I leave my house and doesn't turn back on when I get to work. Every morning when I get to work, I have to manually turn it back on. Is there a way to prevent the wifi from turning off so it automatically connects to my work network when I arrive?
BTW, I do have the "keep wifi on during sleep" checked.
Thanks
Me too. Every time it sleeps or the screen turns off, I have to switch it of then on for it to connect.
I have that always connect setting checked too. I also installed a Wi-Fi locker that's supposd to help but doesn't. There is an option called 'connect when the screen turns on - but you have to pay/upgrade. I'm tempted to pay but I think there should be a local fix/workaround.
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Do you use Tasker or a Smart Actions app that is supposed to turn it off when you leave your home? Any Battery Saver options set?
Groid said:
Do you use Tasker or a Smart Actions app that is supposed to turn it off when you leave your home? Any Battery Saver options set?
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I have an app called Battery Mix which just provides information about the battery and charge times, but it does not do anything with processes or battery/power management (so it claims). The device has had this issue since I got it out of the box.
I think the OP and #2 are having different issues. In any event...
Open the advanced Wifi settings by pressing the menu button, then Settings, Wireless & networks, Wi-Fi settings, and tapping the menu button again. You'll have a choice to either Scan, or go Advanced -- go Advanced.
Tap the Wi-Fi sleep policy entry, and you'll get a pop up dialog with the choices you see in the picture above. Choose Never.
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Hi
I have an HTC Desire HD
I have changed a setting somewhere (i remember doing it) which switches off wifi when the screen times out. I did it on purpose at the time thinking it would come on again when the screen was unlocked. Wrong!
The problem is I now can't find or remember the exact setting I changed!
Could be powersaving, wifi, screen lock or any other non-obvious setting!
I have tried everything I can think off. At the moment, everytime the screen goes off, so does wifi. Very annoying
I would really appreciate any help
Mark
I wasn't aware there was an option for this is froyo! Unless you're referring to the WiFi sleep policy? Try menu > advanced when in WiFi settings but I think this only allows you to determine the time out period, not the condition (ie the screen going off)... however, there are apps that will allow you to do this. Are you sure you haven't installed something that's causing this?
Go to wifi and press menu. Its under advanced settings.
Hi
Thanks for your tips. Found it!!
It wasn't in the Wifi, or screenlock settings (I had looked at everything on those!!)
I remembered that had installed the Battery Booster app and then messed with the Battery Teak settings to turn off wifi on screenlock
Actually a handy app, if you set it up properly, which I hadn't!!
Thanks once again for the prompt
Mark
don't forget after change setting hit menu button again to save the change lol
The problem is that Background Data and Sync ignore the wi-fi policy meaning that the settings to disable wi-fi don't actually disable wi-fi, they just block applications from using wi-fi. The OS can still use it and it still drains power.
That basically means you can never disable wi-fi unless you go in and change multiple settings. The wi-fi policy when the screen is off is useless. Any toggle wi-fi widget you put on the page don't work.
Manually refreshing gmail shows 'no connection' - browser wont connect. But the OS can still get your email and download attachments. Relegating any wi-fi policy to a 'user stop function', not a 'data stop function'.
I have a toggle wi-fi widget on my home screen. I have wi-fi toggled off (also shows as off in settings) I *just* saw the widget flick on for a second, then flick back off. That's the Background data/ sync kicking in right there and that's my whole point.
Another point - if you have disabled wi-fi then turn it back on, it should be looking for the router and getting an IP address. It doesn't do that. When you turn it back on all it does is enable applications to connect. Meaning, when you disable it (via settings>disable wi-fi or disable wi-fi policy) all it does is make the software think you're not connected. It doesn't actually disconnect from the router.
It still shows in your routers wireless list (which it shouldn't if it's disconnected) and ping test will fail because it will refuse any incoming/outgoing requests that aren't from the OS (background data / sync)
If you wait for the background data/sync to connect, you can then ping your tablet and it will work. A security issue as far as I'm concerned.
UPDATE | May 05
An update. I can confirm that the wi-fi will never turn off for me. I have toggled it off and put it in airplane mode and I will still get email notifications.
Under battery power it even still shows wi-fi as taking 4% even though by all settings it is off.
The gmail application shows 'no connection'. If i refresh it, nothing happens. If i turn the screen off, eventually it will sync/connect and I will get email - even though I also have the wi-fi set to off when the screen is off.
So to sum-up - wi-fi never turns off. Ever.
You can help by testing!
Disable wi-fi
Set the policy for wi-fi to disable when screen is off
Go to home screen
Turn off the screen
From another location, send yourself an email
Wait for notification on your tablet or wait for about 5 minutes
Turn on your tablet, email should be waiting for you.
UPDATE | 12:15pm
On the phone with acer support and they confirmed this is the case. They started to explain about Background data and Sync and I stopped them right there. This isn't a settings issue, this is an OS/Hardware issue.
Going to the next tier.
UPDATE | 12:30pm
Everything is confirmed with tier 2 and for what it's worth, it'll be pushed further down the chain and looked into.
I had to clarify with them that the issue was with the OS/Hardware and it's not software. If the wi-fi is disabled and I can go into gmail and it show 'no connection' and i hit refresh and it wont get email, then open the browser and it tells me I'm not connected, then the software thinks the wi-fi is off.
The problem is that the wi-fi isn't off as far as the OS is concerned. It is still draining power and Background data/ Sync are still able to connect (and/or override your settings). This shouldn't be the case. The wi-fi setting should superseed all other settings. If i set the wi-fi to off, it should be off for everything and not be draining power. To me this means that the disable wi-fi setting doesn't actually disable the wi-fi, it just locks out software from using it... which is *not* disabling it.
Same issue here, have to get a widget to turn of the wifi. How can they oversee such simple things?
Also sometimes the power button just randomly lights up when its in sleep mode, it's a small light but very anoying if it's dark in the room (e.a on your bed stand).
Okay - Good to hear it's not just me then. But not so good in general.
If you're reading this thread, try it out. Set the wi-fi to disabled when the screen is off then email yourself from another computer and wait for the notification on your tablet. Or get a friend to email you a minute or so after you've turned your screen off (with wi-fi disabled on screen off)
You can reset the policy after.
If you get the notification then your wifi didn't disable while the screen is off like the setting is supposed to do.
mine is NOT giving me issues, but I have found that it can take up to 10 minutes for the wifi to go off. I just used ping to test it. In some cases it took a while but did turn off. My battery doesn't really go down at all when in standby with wifi off when screen off.
sgdossey said:
mine is NOT giving me issues, but I have found that it can take up to 10 minutes for the wifi to go off.
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gammaRascal said:
I've set the wi-fi to disable itself when the screen goes off but unless I disable sync and background data, the wi-fi still stays on when the screen is off and I can hear my email/IM notifications still.
Anyone else have this issue?
I mean, I think it's an issue. If you set the policy to disable wi-fi when the screen is off in the OS it should override any apps - I shouldn't THEN have to go and disable sync and background data as well otherwise whats the point?
UPDATE | May 05
An update. I can confirm that the wi-fi will never turn off for me. I have toggled it off and put it in airplane mode and I will still get email notifications.
Under battery power it even still shows wi-fi as taking 4% even though by all settings it is off.
The gmail application shows 'no connection'. If i refresh it, nothing happens. If i turn the screen off, eventually it will sync/connect and I will get email - even though I also have the wi-fi set to off when when the screen is off.
So to sum-up - wi-fi never turns off. Ever.
You can help by testing!
Disable wi-fi
Set the policy for wi-fi to disable when screen is off
Go to home screen
Turn off the screen
From another location, send yourself an email
Wait for notification on your tablet or wait for about 5 minutes
Turn on your tablet, email should be waiting for you.
UPDATE | 12:15pm
On the phone with acer support and they confirmed this is the case. They started to explain about Background data and Sync and I stopped them right there. This isn't a settings issue, this is an OS/Hardware issue.
Going to the next tier.
UPDATE | 12:30pm
Everything is confirmed with tier 2 and for what it's worth, it'll be pushed further down the chain and looked into.
I had to clarify with them that the issue was with the OS/Hardware and it's not software. If the wi-fi is disabled and I can go into gmail and it show 'no connection' and i hit refresh and it wont get email, then open the browser and it tells me I'm not connected, then the software thinks the wi-fi is off.
The problem is that the wi-fi isn't off as far as the OS is concerned. It is still draining power and Background data/ Sync are still able to connect. This shouldn't be the case. The wi-fi setting should superseed all other settings. If i set the wi-fi to off, it should be off for everything and not be draining power. To me this means that the disable wi-fi setting doesn't actually disable the wi-fi, it just locks out software from using it... which is *not* disabling it.
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Hi, I just ran these tests and unfortunately I can't reproduce your results.
When I disable wifi, I don't have any data connection.
As for wifi sleep, I don't know if it's a bug or intentional but it seems to put wifi into an extremely low power mode, but not necessarily disable it or turn it off when using the sleep policy.
As someone mentioned somewhere in this thread, it looks like wifi has some sort of 'cooldown' period until it turns the chip and process off completely.
I have used Wifi sleep and played Pandora and had Pandora play for hours until it finally disconnected.
The problem is that Background Data and Sync ignore the wi-fi policy meaning that the settings to disable wi-fi don't actually disable wi-fi, they just block applications from using wi-fi. The OS can still use it and it still drains power.
That basically means you can never disable wi-fi unless you go in and change multiple settings. The wi-fi policy when the screen is off is useless. Any toggle wi-fi widget you put on the page don't work.
Manually refreshing gmail shows 'no connection' - browser wont connect. But the OS can still get your email and download attachments. Relegating any wi-fi policy to a 'user stop function', not a 'data stop function'.
I have a toggle wi-fi widget on my home screen. I have wi-fi toggled off (also shows as off in settings) I *just* saw the widget flick on for a second, then flick back off. That's the Background data/ sync kicking in right there and that's my whole point.
Another point - if you have disabled wi-fi then turn it back on, it should be looking for the router and getting an IP address. It doesn't do that. When you turn it back on all it does is enable applications to connect. Meaning, when you disable it (via settings>disable wi-fi or disable wi-fi policy) all it does is make the software think you're not connected. It doesn't actually disconnect from the router.
It still shows in your routers wireless list (which it shouldn't if it's disconnected) and ping test will fail because it will refuse any incoming/outgoing requests that aren't from the OS (background data / sync)
If you wait for the background data/sync to connect, you can then ping your tablet and it will work. A security issue as far as I'm concerned.
Hi,
when I am downloading a large file, my screen turns off after some time when I do nothing. So far so good. But when I resume to my Android I must see that the Wifi-connection was turned off, too - I think because of battery power saving.
But it was turned off during my file download, so I have to download it again and I have to keep my screen not to turn off by tapping on it periodically. That's what is annyoing me.
I recognized that the connection is not deactivated directly after the screen was turned off. It lasts some time (minutes?) then the wifi connection is turned off, too.
Is there a way to prevent the deacitivation of the wifi connection when the screen is turned off?
Thanks for your answers.
Yes,
Goto settings>wireless connections>wifi adjustments
There you should find an option for WiFi selection politics. Just choose not to never disconnect.
Cheers
Hmm, it is already set to "Never disconnect".
I think this setting is only useful when you want to switch automatically between mobile data (GPRS/UTMS) and WiFi.
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Hmm, it is already set to "Never disconnect".
I think this setting is only useful when you want to switch automatically between mobile data (GPRS/UTMS) and WiFi.
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No. That happens whether you want it or not if you have a wifi access.
Or I have a couple of busted phones at home that totally ignore this setting.
Tell your screen to never shut off, then change back.
*I have bluetooth,nfc,gps turned off all the time just to be clear*
Do you think there is a difference between using the juice defender app and turning in the setting that says keep wifi on while sleeping:never ??
As in do you think one is better than the other ? Does one save more battery life than the other? etc
Don't use juice defender. The more crap you have running (software wise) the worse the battery. period.
Except that the wifi setting to turn off never works, or sporadically works. Try it yourself, set it to turn off and then check its IP every so often with pings, it'll respond.
I don't use JD, but I currently use Green Power, but I'm just going to go back to doing it in Tasker as I don't need it to sync periodically. As said, one less app that way, since I'm already running Tasker.
khaytsus said:
Except that the wifi setting to turn off never works, or sporadically works. Try it yourself, set it to turn off and then check its IP every so often with pings, it'll respond.
I don't use JD, but I currently use Green Power, but I'm just going to go back to doing it in Tasker as I don't need it to sync periodically. As said, one less app that way, since I'm already running Tasker.
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I tried using tasker and I couldn't figure it out
Check out the free app called llama. I have it set to turn on airplane mode when the screen is off for 5 minutes and disable it when the screen turns on.
proud_whovian said:
I tried using tasker and I couldn't figure it out
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I'll type out what I have. It turns off wifi if it's on, turns it on if it was on when going off. ie: If you have wifi off intentionally, it won't turn it back on. I also have it NOT turn off wifi if it's plugged in, listed as optional below.
Note that the %WIFI variable you can either type it in (all caps) or use the button to list all variables, it'll be at the end, Wifi Status.
If you still can't get it, I can export them.. heh.
To turn wifi off:
Add profile, set it for State->Display->Display State is off, and optionally, long-press on the Display Off you just created and click Add and select State->Power->Power->Any
Add Task, name it Wifi Off or whatever
Stop - if %WIFI (matches) off
Variable Set - %wifiStatus to %WIFI
If - %wifiStatus (matches) on
...Wifi - Set Off
End If
To turn wifi back on:
Add profile, set it for State->Display->Display State is on
Add task, name it Wifi On or whatever
Stop - if %WIFI (matches) on
If - %wifiStatus (matches) on
...Flash - Turning Wifi on...
...Wifi - Set On
Else
...Flash - Leaving wifi off..
End If
My wifi toggle is off. In settings, wifi shows off. When I view battery usage and the graph, wifi shows (almost) always on. The only time it shows off in this graph is when I turn airplane mode on.
I've tried rebooting, toggling wifi, airplane mode, data....but to no avail. Is it really on?
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Not sure where it is but I think there is an option to use WiFi in assisting Location services. Make sure that is NOT enabled. Although I would have thought that turning WiFi off should disable this but you never know!
I checked "Settings", "Location", "Mode" and changed to "GPS Only". No change....still constant bar. I'm stumped on this one.
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My wifi toggle is off. In settings, wifi shows off. When I view battery usage and the graph, wifi shows (almost) always on. The only time it shows off in this graph is when I turn airplane mode on.
I've tried rebooting, toggling wifi, airplane mode, data....but to no avail. Is it really on?
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Go into Wifi settings, click the three button menu, and go to advanced settings. In that screen is the "Always allow scanning" option ticked? If so, un-tick it.
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Go into Wifi settings, click the three button menu, and go to advanced settings. In that screen is the "Always allow scanning" option ticked? If so, un-tick it.
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Ahhhhah! Thank you kindly! That is absolutely the answer. Convoluted as it may be, I'm glad to now know.
wifi settings disabled = not really. Location trumps all. I even had "Location" settings disabled.
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