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So we've have some devs recently that have either announced that they are stopping/slowing down support or have gone entirely... Anyone feel like this is the beginning of the end for our beloved X10?
This is the list so far:
1. Zdzihu (has slowed down support for his roms and haven't seen any activity from him in over 2 weeks)
2. Cobrato (has stopped development on his MIUI rom)
3. TripNraver (Has also stopped development on all his roms due to personal reasons)
4. Achotjan (has announced that he will be slowing down support as he will be/is a student)
5. Jerpelea (havent seen anything from him in awhile (or is he a part of the freeXperia team?)
*EDIT* Heard that he changed his name to FXP and is still very much active!
6. Rdannar (gone because his phone is broke)
7. Z!GZA!G (new and promising dev but phone broke as well )
We still have very active support from Wolfbreak, nasif619, spaarc and Erickwill in terms of roms and also from Doomlord, Thjap and Azuzu for their kernels and tweaks as well as some releases from other newcomers but I cant help but feel like we're in a bit of trouble...
Anybody else that I'm missing or didn't give credit to? let me know and I'll update the list.. Maybe we can come up with some way to get some devs back on out device or have more development going
unfortunately this is the circle of life.
Support goes to the new generation of devices.Just get over it.
We have more than we imagined when we bought x10.
scattaman said:
So we've have some devs recently that have either announced that they are stopping/slowing down support or have gone entirely... Anyone feel like this is the beginning of the end for our beloved X10?
This is the list so far:
1. Zdzihu (has slowed down support for his roms and haven't seen any activity from him in over 2 weeks)
2. Cobrato (has stopped development on his MIUI rom)
3. TripNraver (Has also stopped development on all his roms due to personal reasons)
4. Achotjan (has announced that he will be slowing down support as he will be/is a student)
5. Jp (havent seen anything from him in awhile (or is he a part of the freeXperia team?)
6. Rdannar (gone because his phone is broke)
7. Z!GZA!G (new and promising dev but phone broke as well )
We still have very active support from Wolfbreak, and Erickwill in terms of roms and also from Doomlord, Thjap and Azuzu for their kernels and tweaks as well as some releases from other newcomers but I cant help but feel like we're in a bit of trouble...
Anybody else that I'm missing or didn't give credit to? let me know and I'll update the list.. Maybe we can come up with some way to get some devs back on out device or have more development going
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1. Z is around, don't worry. Hopefully he's busy with providing a bootloader unlock (just dreamin' ) He never posted that much, just compare his post count with what he achieved for our x10. He's not someone who just talks and promises a lot, but when he's posting you can be almost sure that it's either a fix or a major breakthrough that is already prepared for public release
2. Cobrato said he won't continue developing MIUI ROMs because it's a lot of worked without sources (MIUI sources are not released to public). As far as I know he didn't say, he doesn't develop anymore. So let's see what'll come from him
3. Trip left xda by his own choice. If he also stopped dev'ing on modaco, that's sad, but personal reasons are more important than development. Btw. wasn't he planning to dev for the Sensation? Didn't see a single ROM from him there.
4. Achotjan slows own, right. That doesn't mean he's gone.
5. Jp - are you talking about Jerpelea? If so you must be kidding. He's the heart of the FreeXperia team, developing for all Xperia phones atm (X10/mini/pro, Arc, Play, mini/pro from 2011, ...). Recently he changed his name to FXP (FreeXPeria?) so don't get confused.
6. rdannar & Z!GZA!G: didn't know that. It's really a pitty. I hope they'll be back with new or repaired phones
Good to know that Z and FXP are still doing their thing! I'm a bit of a flashaholic so I get real sad when I dont see updates for a couple days... but you're right... it is the cycle of life and it will happen sooner or later.
Hopefully if bootloader gets unlocked, it will bring back a lot of dev activity
I doubt there is enough interest to unlock the bootloader now.
oddly enough we're at a weird point right now....
older phones are so old they are losing dev support, and also there are so many good newer phones that are so new causing them to have little dev support lol
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I doubt there is enough interest to unlock the bootloader now.
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that's exactly what I was thinking. And without a unlocked bootloader, there isn't much more the devs can do now anyways.
don't forget about doomlord!
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don't forget about doomlord!
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DooMLoRD is hyper-active and replies to all questions and requests daily.
He is also one of the best devs we have on the Xperia scene.
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DooMLoRD is hyper-active and replies to all questions and requests daily.
He is also one of the best devs we have on the Xperia scene.
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OO yeah!!
+1
Well devs are humans they have other things to do..
I feel that we already got too much support from developers on our X10 and even though things have naturally slowed down, there is still some notable activity.
And maybe it's time for normal users like us to read and research and make our own progress! Will be fun!
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I really think that the devs have done an amazing job with this phone, such so that I see no incentives in upgrading my phone to a newer model.. However is there really much more they can do? The only two things I see as missing from the software side is lack of a fully unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colour screen! But there's no real need for an unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colours is only going to happen if SE release source codes..
So really I feel that we've been lucky to have such amazing dev support for the last year. They've pushed this phone to its limits and without them what would we do!
All I can say is that they've done a great job and I hope to see some more of their work down the line!
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ChuckNorrisTheSecond said:
I really think that the devs have done an amazing job with this phone, such so that I see no incentives in upgrading my phone to a newer model.. However is there really much more they can do? The only two things I see as missing from the software side is lack of a fully unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colour screen! But there's no real need for an unlocked bootloader and the 16 million colours is only going to happen if SE release source codes..
So really I feel that we've been lucky to have such amazing dev support for the last year. They've pushed this phone to its limits and without them what would we do!
All I can say is that they've done a great job and I hope to see some more of their work down the line!
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FAIL!!
Bootloader unlocking is the main part...
I thought they where trying to get the 3x kernel ported to x10 could be wrong but thought they where close to getting it to work
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I thought they where trying to get the 3x kernel ported to x10 could be wrong but thought they where close to getting it to work
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Yes doom also told me abt that!!
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what is 3x kernel?
Yes, I'm afraid. The dev support for this phone is slowly diminishing. It's sad because they have achieved so much with this phone. At the same time, what else is there to do with this phone that hasn't been done already, or that doesn't need an unlocked bootloader. Hopefully Z comes out with some good news about the bootloader soon, that should keep people here a bit longer.
I hope that one or two devs stay till the end, I came in late in the game so I'm stuck with this phone on a contract until March 2013! D:
That being said, I do love this phone. It's not only my first smartphone, but it's my first ever phone. It has a strange sentimental value to me
Just my too sense.
its the kernel from when we got the gingerbread update. the custom kernel we have is based on the older kernel but our devs have fixed so it works on gingerbread
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what is 3x kernel?
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ballubas said:
its the kernel from when we got the gingerbread update. the custom kernel we have is based on the older kernel but our devs have fixed so it works on gingerbread
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U r 100% wrong we got a patched old 2.1 kernel from se to work with 2.3 after gingerbread update they r tring to port a completly new 2.6.3x...
Go to settings and check ur kernel version is 2.6.29...
I think so...
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I had an Arc for 1 month, I really liked it but I couldn't live without a variety of custom roms
I am now on Sensation and thinking about the Xperia S (sorry no proper section yet),this upcoming phone is totally awesome in both look and features, BUT I am afraid XDA devs will not be interested again...
Though I think the only way to make it sexy for them is that:
-Sony send a free device(s) to known devs team like CM,Virtuous,MIUI,Modaco...
If you have other ideas then throw them here
Sony gave Arc and Arc S to CM devs, so don't complain
Developement is harder on SE devices than on for example on HTC decices from what I've heard - that's the reason why we don't have that much devs
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Sony Ericsson always used quite a lot of special hardware, especially when it comes to camera sensors. It's always been a challenge for developers to get those to work on custom roms.
The problem in 2011 is that there was too much time between the hardware release and the availability of certain sources and the bootloader unlock.
If they make sure the Xperia S can be unlocked right away and the sources are available fast then we might get a lot of development going on.
Then again, Sony doesn't care that much, the vast majority of users doesn't even root, so they focus mainly on the stock ROMs. And they are the best of all stock ROMs. By far. And the default software on the 2012 looks to be extremely good and complete.
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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I came from Optimus 2X as kernel developer, I hope I can contribute something once xperia S available, as long, Sony gives developer access to tweak the phone, like kernel source code, unlocked bootloader as default and offcourse new OS update...
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Imo, they totally do.
You could check this e.g.
IMO SE has tried all hard to support XDA in terms of development let's hope under Sony's management they do the same.
Best way to make them interested is to buy them one with donations.
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It's very hard to turn a hTC dev into a Sony one,though a samsung one is easy because whatever galaxy series are good they lack the higher grade materials used by Sony,specially Xperia S which look like a portable Bravia tv
The X10 gave a bad taste to xda devs, the Arc was not well liked too because it wasn't dual core,but now the xperia S with it's very good CPU,12mp camera and HD screen should be perfect!
They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda and other forums adv spaces,the Google Nexus Prime is very well advertised for exemple,there is a remarquable ''push'' marketing
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They just have to promote it better in advertisements inside xda
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
vegetaleb said:
So why the custom roms on Arc are so poor?
I was expecting 10x more specially that it was unlocked way before Sensation (I was here).
I hope sgs3 will not flame devs again and forget about xperia S
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I think it's because most of the developers was behind Dual core devices like HTC Sensation, Samsung etc. but we are making progress we have a great team of dedicated developers like FreeXperia Team. Now our device is under official CM chart. We have most popular custom ROMs like MIUI, CM and few stock based ROM. Lot of the other custom ROM's I have seen are most based on CM so doesn't make much difference. The exceptions are Oxygen, SuperOSR etc. Those developers are active with Nexus devices.
Unlike other devices Sony is little hard to develop due to heavy customization and hardware. Compared to other manufactures Sony has only few customers. HTC users stay with HTC, Samsung users stays with Samsung devices and upgrade to newer Samsung model but they hardly change from HTC to Samsung etc. So it will take time. I'm guessing by Xperia S release we might see few more developers because now we have more advance hardware people might consider upgrading to Sony. But I'm happy with the development what we have now.
i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I think, they really do.
Afaik there are already two XDA members from Sony.
And btw, SE/Sony was the first manufacturer, who gave the community a official way to unlock the BL of devices (now HTC does the same).
Once they released camera libs to FXP team.
They even released a ICS alpha for XDA devs.
I haven't seen another manufacturer doing something like that.
(correct me if I'm wrong at some point)
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Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
sahibunlimited said:
Samsung took the first move in the developer interest
BTW Bootloader are factory unlocked in all devices(Not for galaxy nexus,u have to use a tool )
They donated many devices to devs
And they devs are still their and working on CM9...
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Based on my experience with LG Optimus 2x with unlocked and standard bootloader, it is very easy to bring back brick Optimus 2x by using nvflash/smartflash way. I can mess with partition size without worry about non bootable android device.
And now, android development in Optimus 2x getting rise, many new ROMs get published..
If Sony gives those flexibility with their phone(not to worry about brick phone as long it is related with software), I believe we can really mess with Sony Xperia S
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DooMLoRD said:
i already love the Xperia S
will surely be buying it....
though i dont mind if the community donates a Xperia ION/Xperia S
i dont think no. of custom ROMs is really something to worry about...
we dont need half baked ROMs which are all basically stock ROMs just with some apps removed/added and few "cosmetic" changes... i have seen may communities which have TONS of roms which are hardly 2% different from stock ROM... thats not going to help... just a few well supported and developed ROMs is all that is needed... oh and dont forget powerful kernels as however good a ROM is it cant fully use the power of the device unless u have excellent kernels...
as for general developer interest... HTC & Samsung devices are most loved by devs because of the open nature of the vendors... also both of these vendors have a HUGE user base... some developers prefer to work only on devices which are widely used...
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I agree with DoomLoRD its better to have quality over quantity. Few ROMs but stable, fast, and beautiful instead of bunch of ROMs that hardly have difference from the STOCK one or improve nothing its pointless.
I don't agree with samsung actual users being loyal to the brand, most of sgs2 users are freshly converted people from symbian/bb/iphone to Android.They wanted the best specs from the beginning,though they are a little deceived by the poor plastic and design.SE Arc lacked the dual core and was sold at a high price which made people buy sgs2 instead, the Xperia S packs very good specs(12mp,dual core),superb design and appareantly nice materials!
So unless the sgs3 features quad-core cpu and also 12mp there are big chances to have people switching from sammy to Sony this time.
HTC fans are very loyal to HTC because of the Sense roms and super high quality aluminium materials,but some dudes like me who were SE fans in the past...we can come back to Sony again
Why should SGS II people switch to the Sony Xperia S?!
They should offer the same performance or SGS II should be faster due Exynos.
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SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Then I'll pre-order one for sure.
Thanks FXP Team for your great work.
Bin4ry said:
SE is corporating very much with us devs. FXP team has got access to the needed devices of 2011 line. From what is expected this work will be continued with 2012 devices. Dont worry FXP team will support Xperia S for sure
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Now that we have your "official word" on the matter we all can stop worrying about developer support
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I just read about the new android version possibly coming Autumn. Since Sony has been good to us do you think we'll get it?? Here is source MOD EDIT:adfoc.us links are not allowed on XDA
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Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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madman_amit said:
Ever unsatisfactory ??
you just got ics man enjoy it as 5.0 will take year and half to come to any device
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Just opening up discussion and sharing what I found. Sorry if I may seem ungrateful but I am very much content with se work thus far.
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LMFAO that's not even for phones, just tablets..Jellybean is nothing new
The whole will be 2.5 yrs old by the time its in wide distribution. Won't be a snowballs chance in hell...
Lets take this ...it was much easy for sony to update all xperia 2011 as at end of day all were running same core components ...sammy have fragmented hardware so would take considerable amount of time and money for each to make ...
2012 sony also doing same by sticking to novathor and same gpu so no problems for updates
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I think XPlay can handle as much as ICS. They wouldn't update their 2011 devices in 2013, maybe only Xperia S, P, U, sola (2012 Sony devices) etc. will get that new update.
I would not even hold your hopes up for official ICS.
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Sony has said that they don't particularly believe ICS will run as well as we want it to on their phones. Given that, and the fact that Jellybean will be advanced beyond ICS, as well as the fact that Jellybean has been said to be tablet-only, I don't think Android 5 will ever, ever see the light of day on the Xperia Play.
Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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Wait, Jellybean is tablet only? I thought the whole point of ICS was to merge the tablet and handheld branches on android into one unified platform moving forward. I guess that went out the window. Maybe there is something to that whole "fragmentation" argument after all.
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I thought so, too.
@jdz7t8 and crono141
I think they mean that Android 5.0 will be primarily focused on features for Tablets. It will also come for Smartphones though because then it wouldn´t make any sense what they´ve done with Android 4.0 . Seriously, would be dumb to fragment Android even more from a app developer sight.
And Android 5.0 for our Xperia Play... Well, i doubt it will happen. Look at other smartphone devices. The Galaxy S didn´t get ICS because it got two majour updates (2.2 and 2.3) and it was two years old at the time when the update plan from Samsung was released which is very old for a smartphone (usually 1 year support). And it was successful! ICS is possible from a hardware perspective. The main reason is to prompt customers to buy a new smartphone. Other companies are even worse in this matter(Motorola, LG).
I mean Sony isn´t bad. They did it better with the 2011 Xperia Line. But they
want to sell their new phones. I would appreciate if they bring that update, but unless they announce anything in regards to that, i believe there isn´t any update for us.
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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beez1717 said:
I think that Sony should be focusing on giving their customers a good experience with their phones. It would benefit all their us customers who typically get their phones every two years. They need to keep their us customers loyal to their brand right?
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....... GB w/ working games and touchpad not a good experience? or is Ics with few working games and no touchpad a even better experience?
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Sony may give us jellybean.
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We may get it after all, I don't think we will though
who cares we allready got an impressive custom mod - alpha of jb...
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who cares we allready got an impressive custom mod - alpha of jb...
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Me. Cause I want to play games with the gamepad and have jellybean at the same time. Games like dead trigger.
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Is Jellybean better than Gingerbread in terms of memory/ram usage ?
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Maybe, but highly unlikely. I fear Sony may just get lazy and say 4.1 may screw up the PLAY just like the ICS, but look at the custom roms we have now like markphyton's rom. The developers were probably too lazy.
Some people don't realize that some people don't want to root or unlock their bootloaders, so stop saying sh1t like "get a ROM".
The only way to make every1 get a taste of everything here is to create an .ftf file that could be flash using flashtool. But there's no guide as how to make a .sin file so it could be bundle to be an .ftf file. If there is every1 can run custom rom, custom kernel n overclock their play. So until the methods to make a .sin file be discovered we just need to keep unlock our BL n root our Play. What a drag...
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The funny thing is, there will be as much support for games as there is on ics. So games that don't work on ics won't work on jb. And sony will do what they did with ics, if you want it then unlock or get lost. But in all seriousness, you're living in a dream if you think the play will get jb officially.
Sony Mobile - Episode 2
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Nah, as much as I would likes me some official support, at the same time, running a custom rom (JBX) will be quicker anyways. (Release dates and performance). I don't support sony, but i support our devs.
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Nah, as much as I would likes me some official support, at the same time, running a custom rom (JBX) will be quicker anyways. (Release dates and performance). I don't support sony, but i support our devs.
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True, but with Sony we will always get true touchpad support.
When is it gonna get released ?
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i gave up the play a few months ago (cm10 will be my last project)
I don't care if sony give the play jb or not.
and for the post above: maybe never!
nobody knows, even sony not
Stop kidding yourself people. Sony won't ever update the PLAY, even with minor GB updates.
They abandoned it after buying out SE and becoming Sony Mobile.
never
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So we have had unofficial versions of jellybean for a while now. All the way back to the jbx think tank. Now I hear there is a possibility for a Jellybean update(POSSIBLE. Please don't spam this thread saying "Jellybean never! Muahaha! And ect.) now that firmware has been finally certified for the first time in many months! Now let's get discussing! :beer: What are your thoughts on these things? Not just an official update but Jellybean in general.
They might release jellybean 4.1 (or 4.2 because theyre a bit late )
Because it has better performance and they already had some full ics builds
But i think itll last some time until theyre out
I expect a good performance because theyre getting paid for this stuff.
I think it will be possible if Sony will work with devs to get everything too 100% mainly the touchpad though
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They might release jellybean 4.1 (or 4.2 because theyre a bit late )
Because it has better performance and they already had some full ics builds
But i think itll last some time until theyre out
I expect a good performance because theyre getting paid for this stuff.
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Just a theory, but i also hope that theyll release jb
Sorry but I don't think an official jellybean update will happen. They just announced their update plans concerning jellybean and some newer and more powerful devices ( arc s for example) won't be updated. More info on xperiablog.net.
So the new firmware might be for a superlate ICS update or just nothing really.
But I don't care because xda devs have made an amazing job to bring jellybean to our devices. Cosmicdan, cj360, farenheith and all the others, you guys worked very hard to get the most of this abandoned phone. Many devs naturally moved on to other devices, but you stayed for this very special and unique device which did not receive the official support it deserved.
So thank you guys, I won t be buying another Sony phone before long I think because of their catastrophic update policy ( and it doesnt seem it gets better), but you made me and still make me very happy with my phone.
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Sorry but I don't think an official jellybean update will happen. They just announced their update plans concerning jellybean and some newer and more powerful devices ( arc s for example) won't be updated. More info on xperiablog.net.
So the new firmware might be for a superlate ICS update or just nothing really.
But I don't care because xda devs have made an amazing job to bring jellybean to our devices. Cosmicdan, cj360, farenheith and all the others, you guys worked very hard to get the most of this abandoned phone. Many devs naturally moved on to other devices, but you stayed for this very special and unique device which did not receive the official support it deserved.
So thank you guys, I won t be buying another Sony phone before long I think because of their catastrophic update policy ( and it doesnt seem it gets better), but you made me and still make me very happy with my phone.
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You think sony's update policy is bad? You should see Nokia's, they are notorious for abandoning devices within months of their release. Probably why they've all but disappeared from the cellphone competition. Coming from Nokia handset's, N-gage, N900 etc, I'd say sony is a God Send.
Actually from my experience they are all bad in term of updates. I can only recommend Google Nexus devices, although Samsung devices come close because they don't lock their bootloaders, if it is, its usually Verizon or ATT.
For now I will only buy a Nexus device or an Xperia Play 2.
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Very interesting stuff here. I don't really care if we get offical Jellybean. Ill probably switch to a Nexus phone since Im not much of a gamer and use this to play minecraft.
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I'm not a big fan of either verizon or s.e. for the lack of support for this underdog of a phone. but the devs here obviously showed both of them that when you work together as one you can give people what they want...& thats the freedom of choice.
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I am coming from iPhone 4, I have 3 android tablet so I am familiar with android. I was waiting for the Nexus 4 but decided to get Xperia instead. I was surprised at how cheap it is, I just bought it for $90 unlocked GSM. Its a tremendous value. I want to use it for emulation.
Anyways, I have spent the past few hours reading this forum trying to come up with a play of what to do when I comes in. I want to put ICS or Jelly Bean on it mainly because I want to have the virtual back and home buttons. I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction.
sirkingchase said:
I am coming from iPhone 4, I have 3 android tablet so I am familiar with android. I was waiting for the Nexus 4 but decided to get Xperia instead. I was surprised at how cheap it is, I just bought it for $90 unlocked GSM. Its a tremendous value. I want to use it for emulation.
Anyways, I have spent the past few hours reading this forum trying to come up with a play of what to do when I comes in. I want to put ICS or Jelly Bean on it mainly because I want to have the virtual back and home buttons. I would appreciate it if someone could point me in the right direction.
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If u want emulation, remember that FPSe and Mupen64 got touchpad support ONLY on ICS and +.
So just flash last CM9.1 FXP 152 + farenheit fix and you're done.
Unfortunely, JB is still no go for us, because touchpad causes lag, nobody knows the reason. Except touchpad, JB is 100% funcional tough..
Jelly bean it will be like a gift in christmas for me xD come on developers work more on it!!!!!!!
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
The best rom thus far...
The best one I tried so far is this one
The gapps work (when flashed)
The SIM Card works (nice)
Relatively Stable
Fast Bootup
CyangenMod Based.
You do need an unlocked BL
I tried others like SlimBean but it was too buggy and the gapps kept failing on me.
Recommend giving this a try.