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I don't know how it got updated, but it did. I wasn't running a custom rom or kernel or anything. It was just a stock a500.
Well now most of my apps force close, can't connect to Xda forums, wallpapers don't work, wifi barely works, etc.
Should I go back to bestbuy and exchange it? I've had it for less than a week. I just want one that works! I love this tablet though.
Fyi, order and chaos is pretty damn fun on our big screens, as is Contract killer zombies I miss playing them lol.
Any helpful advice is welcomed and thanked!
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Was it running 3.0 or 3.1 when you got it? If so it should have prompted you and asked you if you wanted to update.
The easiest thing, especially if you are new to the world of android, would be to exchange it at Best Buy. There are ways of fixing it, but that would involve reverting back to an older honeycomb version, rooting it and possibly installing a custom ROM.
Edit - It appears you are not new the the Android world. My bad...... You probably know a lot more than I do!
Was it always giving you errors, or did they all of a sudden just pop up?
It never promoted anything, it just asked me to update acer drivers or whatever so I did. Next thing I know I'm on 3.2
I never got errors until 2 or 3 days ago. I can't even post on the Xda app now!
I'll probably just exchange it. Ducks about my ghost armor though
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Why not just factory reset it?
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Would that take it back to 3.1?
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skatin707 said:
Would that take it back to 3.1?
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No it wouldn't!
Please ignore the man behind the curtain!
I think you got the new magicaly updating Iconia feature I heard about.
You'll have to downgrade before you can do anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
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No it wouldn't!
Please ignore the man behind the curtain!
I think you got the new magicaly updating Iconia feature I heard about.
You'll have to downgrade before you can do anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
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Wonderfully useful post.
I was never promoted for an Android update, just acer updates. I've only had this thing for a week, not to mention i've never "officially" updated an Android devices.
I'm aware I would have to downgrade. How difficult is it? It seems pretty simple, but I've never done it before. Is all data wiped when you downgrade?
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The acer update was the android update.that is how it works with embedded devices.
Ooops.
Downgrade then wipe and install a rooted 3.2 you will be all happy again I promiss
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I don't know how it got updated, but it did. I wasn't running a custom rom or kernel or anything. It was just a stock a500.
Well now most of my apps force close, can't connect to Xda forums, wallpapers don't work, wifi barely works, etc.
Should I go back to bestbuy and exchange it? I've had it for less than a week. I just want one that works! I love this tablet though.
Fyi, order and chaos is pretty damn fun on our big screens, as is Contract killer zombies I miss playing them lol.
Any helpful advice is welcomed and thanked!
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First of all, please remove any task killers or "battery savers" you're using. These are pretty terrible for any android OS newer than 2.1. Try to stay away from them. You can get away with "passive" ones like as an example, Watchdog. But nothing that actively shuts down processes and such.
This isn't supposed to be possible, but do you happen to have any apps auto-moving other apps to the microSD card, or are you using any apps to do this manually? By design I don't think that can even be done inside of Honeycomb, but I'm aware that some apps 'force it'. If you do, move any and all apps on the microSD card back to the internal storage of the A500 - then remove the offending 'mover' app.
Stupid question, but have to tried powering the tablet off and back on? If not, let's try that first, shall we?
Second thing - if it's still force closing when it comes back up, try using the reset on the side of the unit. What I want is basically to have the tablet hard reset (the equivalent of removing the battery for a few seconds).
To do this put something in the little reset hole for 10 seconds or so while the unit is on, so you can see it reboot. Once it turns off you can remove the item from the hole.
Still force closing apps? Alrighty then, moving on:
If you are using a completely stock A500 (and yes, I did read that you said you are), then just factory reset it and you should be alright. It won't downgrade to 3.1, but why would you want it to? 3.2 is working great for many of us.
I'd love to get to the bottom of your force closes. But alas, that may be just a bit much to deal with for a new user so go ahead and do the factory reset.
To do a factory reset, go to Settings and then Privacy and the option is in there. I would remove the microSD if you have one inserted (it's not necessary, but just to rule anything out).
Since it's only a week old hopefully you don't have too many apps or settings invested in the tablet.
So to summarize:
1. Uninstall any and all task killers or battery savers
2a. Make sure you don't have any programs automatically moving apps to the microsd. Move any apps you have installed to the microSD back to the internal storage
2b. Remove the microSD card
3. Power cycle the device (then 4 if 3 doesn't work)
4. Hard reset the device (then 5 if 4 doesn't work)
5. Factory reset the device
If you factory reset and STILL get force closes when you're back up then unfortunately there's something wrong with either the core software (maybe a bad update) or the hardware. Return it in that case.
Good Luck. Please let me know how it goes.
I'm not new to Android, just new to this device.
I never use task killers.
No app2sd stuff.
Rebooted multiple times.
I've removed the SD card and even tried a different one.
Hard resets don't do anything for my problem.
Why would I want 3.1? To root it. 3.2 is useless to me without root. Apps like drive mount make this tablet much more useful, but they require root access.
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I would try to downgrade - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1276227
From there you can install your own custom ROM. If it still gives you issues, factory reset (or load a ROM that looks stock) and exchange it
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I'm not new to Android, just new to this device.
I never use task killers.
No app2sd stuff.
Rebooted multiple times.
I've removed the SD card and even tried a different one.
Hard resets don't do anything for my problem.
Why would I want 3.1? To root it. 3.2 is useless to me without root. Apps like drive mount make this tablet much more useful, but they require root access.
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Exactly! Currently there is no root for 3.2 on our device. Hence having to downgrade to 3.1, root, and install a pre-rooted 3.2 ROM. IMHO the stock based 3.2 ROMs are the most stable, and trouble free.
If you're not new to Android you should have no problem following the procedure.
Timmydean did a tut that's a little easier to follow here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1307539
I'll give it a go. Will I need a pc? I just sent my laptop to dell for warranty repairs /facepalm
I was about to install a custom rom when I found out I lost root anyway lol.
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I'll give it a go. Will I need a pc? I just sent my laptop to dell for warranty repairs /facepalm
I was about to install a custom rom when I found out I lost root anyway lol.
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Althought it is easier to do it with a computer (to get the files). You can download them straight to your tab, transfer the files over to your external SD card and away you go! I've installed a few ROMS without the help of my computer. Afterall, that's part of the reason why I got a Honeycomb tab, so I wouldn't have to rely on a computer unlike other "tablets" on the market LOL!
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I'm not new to Android, just new to this device.
I never use task killers.
No app2sd stuff.
Rebooted multiple times.
I've removed the SD card and even tried a different one.
Hard resets don't do anything for my problem.
Why would I want 3.1? To root it. 3.2 is useless to me without root. Apps like drive mount make this tablet much more useful, but they require root access.
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Ah, sorry about that. You said you were running completely stock. Didn't know you had any interest in rooting.
Good luck.
skatin707 said:
I'm not new to Android, just new to this device.
I never use task killers.
No app2sd stuff.
Rebooted multiple times.
I've removed the SD card and even tried a different one.
Hard resets don't do anything for my problem.
Why would I want 3.1? To root it. 3.2 is useless to me without root. Apps like drive mount make this tablet much more useful, but they require root access.
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Maybe it would help if you remove all apps that require root access, FCs may be caused by them since you don't have root anymore. Actually you don't need root anymore to mount NTFS hdds - 3.2 took care for that. The one thing I need root now is to map the keys of my USB keyboard to my liking. Probably I'll flash a custom kernel when I feel the need for OC but still it runs everything I throw at it.
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I uninstalled them, or most of them at least. I'll continue looking for root apps.
I've got my hdd formatted to fat32 but my tablet still doesn't see it. I really wish it could, that's why I want drive mount to work so badly. I'm not sure why it's not working though. It did before, but now that there are files on it won't. If I can fix that, I'm fine waiting for ICS.
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so are you stuck with the stock bootloader? or can you download CWM and flash an alternate recovery? if you can do that (does that apk require root access??? I honestly do not know???) then there are all the stock and rooted OS's here on XDA somewere? if CWM does then cant you still get one of the older OS's (rename it update.zip) and flash it with the stock recovery image? if any of this is simplistic I appologize just trying to help, I should probably stay out of it and let the experts help...
I'm stuck with the stock bootloader. I never got a chance to flash a recovery.
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Alright, so I got a Nexus 7 for x-mas (my first and only android device) and I love it. Recently i have been wanting to root but information/explanation has been hard to come by. So, I have a few questions.
1. When i received the device i did not unlock bootloader, after reading about unlocking it it seems that this wipes all the data from the device. How do i backup my apps/data/storage? If i copy all the files to my CPU and then copy them back to the nexus will it work? What about app settings, like my settings on Apex launcher? I've seen threads and apps that recover data after it is deleted? What's my best bet for backing my info and data up?
2. What is the difference in flashing a kernel and rooting an android? Are they the same? As far as i know flashing is reversible, but is rooting?
3. How do you root? I've seen things about utilities (nexus 7 toolkit) and I've seen things that just involve unlocking the bootloader (flashing? i think)
Sorry if these questions have been answered or this is the wrong spot for this, I'm new to the forum.
The Drugs said:
Alright, so I got a Nexus 7 for x-mas (my first and only android device) and I love it. Recently i have been wanting to root but information/explanation has been hard to come by. So, I have a few questions.
1. When i received the device i did not unlock bootloader, after reading about unlocking it it seems that this wipes all the data from the device. How do i backup my apps/data/storage? If i copy all the files to my CPU and then copy them back to the nexus will it work? What about app settings, like my settings on Apex launcher? I've seen threads and apps that recover data after it is deleted? What's my best bet for backing my info and data up?
2. What is the difference in flashing a kernel and rooting an android? Are they the same? As far as i know flashing is reversible, but is rooting?
3. How do you root? I've seen things about utilities (nexus 7 toolkit) and I've seen things that just involve unlocking the bootloader (flashing? i think)
Sorry if these questions have been answered or this is the wrong spot for this, I'm new to the forum.
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1) You can't really do a backup of app data before unlocking the bootloader, that's why it's recommended to do it right when you get. I have to wipe everything so i know how you feel.
2) Inorder to flash a kernel you need to root first.
3) You could use a toolkit to unlock and root( either nexus 7 toolkit or wugs') or if you want to unlock and root manually you can use adb, which is just a few commands for a nexus. Both are easy, the only hard part is making sure you have the correct drivers.
Hope i helped and good luck!
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You can't really do a backup of app data before unlocking the bootloader, that's why it's recommended to do it right when you get. I have to wipe everything so i know how you feel.
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Dang, that really sucks. What all can i save? App permissions, any of that?
I was just looking around and noticed there are some Apps that save data/info, the ones i saw were Carbon and TWRP. Would i be able to save my app stuff that way?
TWRP is a custom recovery which you can use AFTER unlock and root and i have never used carbon so i wouldnt know.
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I don't own a tablet, but I am a beta tester for a few projects here, I have to wipe all data, but the cool thing is after the first initial wipe, you never have to worry about that again.
A backup of your non-rooted device, I would say do your best with titanium backup, need an easier program? Try go backup pro or Clickfree backup.
Then try to restore. If it fails, retry.. I got that a lot, most game data saved is usually stored in /mnt/sdcard/Android/data or /mnt/sdcard/Android/obb
You can store that info on an external SD, using directory bind, you can find it on here, very good app if your phone/tablet sucks because its internal storage is 3.75gb. my dual partitioned and mounted 64gb sdcard works wonderfully, my games get 16gb to themselves.
Anyway to stay on topic, I want this, but also looking at an Asus, and a Samsung galaxy tab 2
:-MiniHazard-: sgh-i927 glide
CWM 6.0.1.2
CM 10.1 JB - thanks thegreatergood
LiteKernel-jb-20130121 - just until bugfix
First of all, TWRP can only be used after unlocking boot loader and unlocking wipes all data
I also unlocked boot loader after 2 months when I have many apps, so it is simple you copy all the data to your PC and you can do a backup of your apk's by sending them to a Bluetooth device by the help of a app ( Bluetooth file transfer) , you unlock the boot loader and send all apks back either by Bluetooth or by using stick mount when you are rooted , and restore all data,
Flashing a kernel requires to root first
You can either root by using root toolkit or by using adb fastboot method manually
Here is the link to a post of mine for rooting nexus 7 by adb fast boot method
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38195329
Good luck,if you are unable to root or having any problem,reply and I will look into it
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flash kernel and root are two different things.
after unlocking the boot loader, you can flash anything you want, including an already rooted system image.
The Drugs said:
Alright, so I got a Nexus 7 for x-mas (my first and only android device) and I love it. Recently i have been wanting to root but information/explanation has been hard to come by. So, I have a few questions.
1. When i received the device i did not unlock bootloader, after reading about unlocking it it seems that this wipes all the data from the device. How do i backup my apps/data/storage? If i copy all the files to my CPU and then copy them back to the nexus will it work? What about app settings, like my settings on Apex launcher? I've seen threads and apps that recover data after it is deleted? What's my best bet for backing my info and data up?
2. What is the difference in flashing a kernel and rooting an android? Are they the same? As far as i know flashing is reversible, but is rooting?
3. How do you root? I've seen things about utilities (nexus 7 toolkit) and I've seen things that just involve unlocking the bootloader (flashing? i think)
Sorry if these questions have been answered or this is the wrong spot for this, I'm new to the forum.
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Have you read the FAQs which concern your N7 grouper, if not I invite you to go to read this FAQ
Frequently Asked Questions - ASUS GOOGLE NEXUS 7 – GROUPER & TILAPIA (WiFi & 3G)
What is the best (easy) way to root on Android 4.2.2?
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Here is the link to my post for rooting nexus 7 4.2.2 or any other nexus device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38195329
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When I had 4.2.2 I rooted my nexus 7 without unlocking bootloader now after OTA updated to 4.3 I've lost root and I don't want to unlock bootloader to root and loose data. Is there any way to get rooted without unlocking bootloader or without loosing any data???
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geopapax said:
When I had 4.2.2 I rooted my nexus 7 without unlocking bootloader now after OTA updated to 4.3 I've lost root and I don't want to unlock bootloader to root and loose data. Is there any way to get rooted without unlocking bootloader or without loosing any data???
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Hi dude... still looking for that answer... hope will find it soon... if you get a way to do it.. please send me a PM
Regards
Looking for this as well!
Ditto, looking also.
No news till know just waiting and searching...
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I am also looking for any updates about this root method.
any news?
I think it's pretty unlikely a 'motochopper' like exploit will be available any time soon.
Google, with Jellybean 4.3, have beefed up Androids security considerably, ostensibly to protect the device from exploits of the malicious kind. Whilst inconvenient for easy rooting, I think anything that enhances and improves security is most decidedly a very good thing indeed.
So, whilst I don't think a 'root-without-unlocking-the-bootloader' exploit is totally impossible under 4.3, I do consider it improbable.
And in any case, updating and rooting 4.3 from a locked bootloader condition (without loss of data) isn't technically difficult... it's just time consuming.
It took me about 2 hours or so, to go from a CyanogenMod 4.2.2 ROM/franco kernel combo to Jellybean 4.3 Factory Stock and rooted... with no loss of data. Using these steps...
1) Backed up all my apps (and app user data) with Titanium.
2) Copied the entire contents of my Nexus 7 (including my Titanium backups) to my PC, using ADB pull.
3) Unlocked the bootloader. (I was bootloader locked, rooted via motochopper).
4) Fastboot flashed Jellybean 4.3 Factory Stock.
5) Fastboot flashed TWRP.
6) Flashed Chainfires SU root updater.
7) Copied everything back to my Nexus 7 from my PC.
8) Restored my apps (and app user data) using Titanium.
(If you're already on Jellybean 4.3, you can skip step 4).
Besides, what else are going to spend a few hours doing on a rainy Saturday afternoon with nothing worth watching on TV? And such an exercise will confer several benefits...
1) It will hone your data husbandry skills (backing up data is always a good thing).
2) It will fine tune your knowledge and experience of fastboot and ADB.
3) It will root the device... and finally...
4) You will gain the satisfaction of your accomplishment.
OK... maybe I am trying to oversell it a little.
But my point is... you can either wait for some future putative exploit (that may never come) from some genius developer (who may not exist)... or you can bite the bullet, and do it the old fashioned way... today.
Anyway... just my thoughts.
Rgrds,
Ged.
Honestly if you are going to unlock/root it, use an app like helium(play store, free) to back up app data, and then move it to a computer, and then finally move it back, install helium again and restore. I did it.
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GedBlake said:
I think it's pretty unlikely a 'motochopper' like exploit will be available any time soon.
Google, with Jellybean 4.3, have beefed up Androids security considerably, ostensibly to protect the device from exploits of the malicious kind. Whilst inconvenient for easy rooting, I think anything that enhances and improves security is most decidedly a very good thing indeed.
So, whilst I don't think a 'root-without-unlocking-the-bootloader' exploit is totally impossible under 4.3, I do consider it improbable.
And in any case, updating and rooting 4.3 from a locked bootloader condition (without loss of data) isn't technically difficult... it's just time consuming.
It took me about 2 hours or so, to go from a CyanogenMod 4.2.2 ROM/franco kernel combo to Jellybean 4.3 Factory Stock and rooted... with no loss of data. Using these steps...
1) Backed up all my apps (and app user data) with Titanium.
2) Copied the entire contents of my Nexus 7 (including my Titanium backups) to my PC, using ADB pull.
3) Unlocked the bootloader. (I was bootloader locked, rooted via motochopper).
4) Fastboot flashed Jellybean 4.3 Factory Stock.
5) Fastboot flashed TWRP.
6) Flashed Chainfires SU root updater.
7) Copied everything back to my Nexus 7 from my PC.
8) Restored my apps (and app user data) using Titanium.
(If you're already on Jellybean 4.3, you can skip step 4).
Besides, what else are going to spend a few hours doing on a rainy Saturday afternoon with nothing worth watching on TV? And such an exercise will confer several benefits...
1) It will hone your data husbandry skills (backing up data is always a good thing).
2) It will fine tune your knowledge and experience of fastboot and ADB.
3) It will root the device... and finally...
4) You will gain the satisfaction of your accomplishment.
OK... maybe I am trying to oversell it a little.
But my point is... you can either wait for some future putative exploit (that may never come) from some genius developer (who may not exist)... or you can bite the bullet, and do it the old fashioned way... today.
Anyway... just my thoughts.
Rgrds,
Ged.
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Thanks for your advice I know the benefits of the standar rooting but you forget the benefits of being stock!!! The backup way of rooting an no loosing data is the only way but I have a plenty of time to wait for someone to make possible to make root without unlocking the bootloader. I don't use so much my nexus and the apps that wants root so I can wait, everything I use now after the update to 4.3 is free.
Thanks in advance for your answer!!!
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Well.... no effing clue whats happened.... it must've updated recently as no longer rooted or using golauncher... getting rather annoyed at the inability to access the internal storage via usb...
Windows brings up a massive message that when i googled it the fix was to apparently unplug the pc.... which resolved a few issues but still get the same issues with the kindle... which sucks.... managed to connect briefly with Linux but now it just seem to not acknowledge it at all....
I had what i thought were the latest drivers as i only installed them a couple of days ago.. (rediscovered scummvm!!!)
Any ideas what I can do? I want to re root and flash a totally new rom as the amazon one is truely awful
And which is the best root method for 7.4.6? If there is one....
Thanks again peeps!
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Well.... no effing clue whats happened.... it must've updated recently as no longer rooted or using golauncher... getting rather annoyed at the inability to access the internal storage via usb...
Windows brings up a massive message that when i googled it the fix was to apparently unplug the pc.... which resolved a few issues but still get the same issues with the kindle... which sucks.... managed to connect briefly with Linux but now it just seem to not acknowledge it at all....
I had what i thought were the latest drivers as i only installed them a couple of days ago.. (rediscovered scummvm!!!)
Any ideas what I can do? I want to re root and flash a totally new rom as the amazon one is truely awful
And which is the best root method for 7.4.6? If there is one....
Thanks again peeps!
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You would probably benefit most by using KFFA to return to 7.2.3 then root, remove OTA updates and install GApps. This way when you go to install a custom ROM, you have a matching boot loader. In order to put a custom ROM on, you need to flash a 2nd boot loader and TWRP. All this is covered in great detail on here. If you have questions do ask.
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I recommend Paranoid Android indeed!
Im having trouble deciding if I should root or not.
For the most part I am happy with not. However I want to backup my apps and device settings to either my PC or a memory stick.
I figured I could attach a micro USB to female USB cable and stick a USB memory stick on in and back up to that.
Do I need to root the device for that?
Also I wouldn't mind editing a few saved game files.
What are the risks of rooting, other than invalidating a guarantee? I don't intend to flash the ROM.
Also if rooted, how easy is it to unroot if I had to return it in the event it needed a repair?
Thanks
I wouldn't root if I didn't need tethering. Still happy with stock but that's the only way to get hotspot to work. I know that doesn't really help with your question
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Adaway requires root, and I hate ads
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So have we herd yet if we can " re lock" our phones after rooting. I know with my experience with the galaxy nexus that I could do that in case I had a warranty issue with verizon. That is the only worry I have with rooting especially with lg having a root checker or "root trip".