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I'm curious if anyone knows when we'll get bluetooth mouse support for the Xoom. When I got my xoom it looked like mouse support was imminent, some of the threads in this forum said so. I think most people were saying that mouse support would come in an update at the end of April. Anyways, now I'm reading the forums again and some folks are saying that it may never happen.
I really need to be able to use this thing as a business tool to justify the cost, but without keyboard and mouse support, I'm not going to get there anytime soon. I'm seriously thinking about jumping ship for the Transformer, but I really like my Xoom and don't want to ditch only to discover that they're implementing the mouse support soon.
So, anyone know when/if mouse support is coming?
I'm on stock ROM; waiting to jailbreak after the LTE upgrade (and when I have more time to figure it out!).
Thanks!
Mouse support was mentioned in the announcement for the upcoming update but we have no date as to when it will be pushed, so the answer is "imminent".
KerryG said:
Mouse support was mentioned in the announcement for the upcoming update but we have no date as to when it will be pushed, so the answer is "imminent".
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So you're saying that it will definitely be implemented, the only question now is "when." Why are these companies so secretive about this stuff? I can keep this thing as a toy for a bit longer, but I really need to know how it performs as a business tool soon!
An educated guess would be within 30 days.
Marketing trick ? link
charos said:
Marketing trick ? link
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Hows that a trick? I have a Microsoft BT mouse working with Xoom. 3.1 brought the functionality.
Microsoft Mouse 5000 works great with mine. You have to get a mouse that has a built in pin code. The 5000 does, and some of the logitech mouses do.
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Hows that a trick? I have a Microsoft BT mouse working with Xoom. 3.1 brought the functionality.
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That's what I mean by "marketing trick" . There is a dozen of mouses that work with 3.1 but I think Verbatim is the first to officially announce a xoom compatible mouse. Being "compatible" doesn't mean anything since that official announcement doesn't say how much compatible is it (eg. gestures).
Logitech Has It Going ON
I'm not sure what has been preceding before I place this entry. I just wanted folks to know that the Logitech V470 Bluetooth Cordless Laser Mouse for Notebooks works extremely well with my XOOM since the new update was given to us. All I had to do was put the batteries in, turn it on and hit the 'connect' button. The XOOM found it, paired and connected with it and all of the mouse's functions work just great on the XOOM. Now don't get me wrong, I love being able to use this without a mouse and keyboard - when I'm on the go. However, when I'm at my office behind my desk, I have my bluetooth keyboard & mouse and it's a joy at the job. I keep my XOOM stocked with tunes to keep me going through the day - and thanks to the new Google Music beta, my XOOM is working overtime. If nothing else ever gets fixed with these, I'm already happy. Thanks to the devs here at XDA, my SD card works and now I have all the other parts functioning.
Usb mouse works. Tried last night
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App
works beautiful with the magic mouse
I just ran across this post so I thought I'd give the mouse thing a try. Afterall, it's a great idea. So... I have a bluetooth mouse that I bought with the accessory kit for the Motorola Atrix phone (motorola bluetooth keyboard and mouse). I successfully paired and used both the keyboard and the mouse. Works great! Other bluetooth keyboards and mice should work also. This may be old news, but that's my two cents.
I have a MS Bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
Mouse: Lasermouse 8000
Keyboard: Entertainment Keyboard 7000
Both work great.
Okay so basically I want to do on my Nexus 7 what I do on my Windows PC. Have Jelly Bean display in English but the on-screen keyboard to have a standard German Qwertz Layout.
On a Windows PC this is easy language & keyboard settings are separate. But having a scout around the Android forums on here & the Nexus 7 forums. This is apparently problematic.
Lily
PS. I have never used an android device before & I did use search so please forgive my ignorance.
Check out the Android app store. A search for "Keyboard German" got 348 hits.
For example, Slideit offers 45 free language and layout packs. That just happens to be the first one I pulled up.
Thanks for responding. But I simply want to do this in Jelly Bean without an external app. I'm not going looking for apps unless I know that Jelly Bean isn't capable of displaying in one language & using a different keyboard. Are you saying that android can't cope with such a basic requirement natively? And that I have no choice but to use an independent app & shell out money for a basic OS requirement.
Why would you pay for an App when there are so many free ones?
Go Keyboard, for example, is free with over 90,000 downloads.
If you don't want to use Apps with a Nexus - I am not sure why you want a Nexus.
Apps make Android what it is.
Maybe someone with a pre-production Nexus 7 can tell you what the keyboard supports out of the box. I will say the language on the keyboard has nothing to do with the language the device displays in.
rmm200 said:
Why would you pay for an App when there are so many free ones?
Go Keyboard, for example, is free with over 90,000 downloads.
If you don't want to use Apps with a Nexus - I am not sure why you want a Nexus.
Apps make Android what it is.
Maybe someone with a pre-production Nexus 7 can tell you what the keyboard supports out of the box. I will say the language on the keyboard has nothing to do with the language the device displays in.
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The one you recommended costs nearly 3 quid.
I never said I won't use apps. My question was not about apps. My question was does Jelly Bean support this. I just assumed that a feature this basic must be stock. So I thought I would post the question & hope someone that actually knows the answer would happen along. Or for that matter someone familiar enough with other Android incarnations who could make a best guess. Basic logic dictates that I see what it can do natively before filling it up with unnecessary apps.
Not a recommendation of mine - I said that was just the first one that search pulled up.
Older versions of Android support 13 languages on the multi-touch keyboard, including German.
My post was intended to point out, if by chance, Nexus 7 does not have what you need, there is an app for it...
So does somebody else know or have any actual insight as to whether android can handle this natively? I'd be really grateful for some info from peeps who actually know their way around android. Because I definitely don't.
Just tried it on my Galaxy Nexus (ICS) and what you require is there out the box. You can pick from a variety of keyboard languages without changing the system language.
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Just tried it on my Galaxy Nexus (ICS) and what you require is there out the box. You can pick from a variety of keyboard languages without changing the system language.
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You Sir are bloody lovely. Fingers crossed they allow this in Jelly Bean. Thanking you muchly. :fingers-crossed:
Hey all,
I'm sick of waiting around for the Samsung Note 10.1" and I really want a device with great stylus support. I have owned ThinkPads in the past (when they were IBM) and from the reviews it seems like most peoples problems with this device were software, not hardware related. I've owned 3 other android devices, always rooted and loaded custom ROMs on them but I am seeing a lot less development activity and choice here. So some questions:
1) I will probably order from Amazon, 32GB w/ stylus. Not sure if it will come with ICS aka 4.0.3 aka OTA3 (I think?). If it does there is currently no way to root it correct?
2) I see there are a few rooting methods, packages, apps, etc. I am getting really confused about which ones are for which device & image (K1, TPT, ROW, JP, etc). Is there a "go to" guide for this specific device?
3) Are there any AOSP ROMs available? If not, how much junk/bloat comes with Lenovo's images?
4) I am looking to use this for business, mostly note taking and diagramming. The stylus input is the *biggest* factor for me and I want it to be smoooooooth. Am I making the right purchase?
I have experience rooting and loading custom roms via CWR on the Nexus One and SGS2-Tmo. I'm just trying to do my homework and see if this device is going to meet my needs before dropping a few hundred on it.
Thanks
I think from what you've read on the forum YOU know you are making the wrong purchase but you're sick of waiting. Then Of course by all means pls get a tpt. That impatience of yours will be tested when you have to send the tablet for a few weeks to repair the broken usb/power button/volume button. The pen is NOT smooth-it develops a mind of its own after writing for a few mins. I'm also sorry to say that development on this tablet is DEAD. There were gallant efforts by koshu and Co but lenovo has proved that they are against development of any kind. Even updates from lenovo are a pain in the backside especially if u somehow had root or Cwm recovery. It's very difficult to learn from other people's mistakes until you make yours then you'd wish you been patient and saved a few hundred dollars
ac251404 said:
Hey all,
I'm sick of waiting around for the Samsung Note 10.1" and I really want a device with great stylus support. I have owned ThinkPads in the past (when they were IBM) and from the reviews it seems like most peoples problems with this device were software, not hardware related. I've owned 3 other android devices, always rooted and loaded custom ROMs on them but I am seeing a lot less development activity and choice here. So some questions:
1) I will probably order from Amazon, 32GB w/ stylus. Not sure if it will come with ICS aka 4.0.3 aka OTA3 (I think?). If it does there is currently no way to root it correct?
2) I see there are a few rooting methods, packages, apps, etc. I am getting really confused about which ones are for which device & image (K1, TPT, ROW, JP, etc). Is there a "go to" guide for this specific device?
3) Are there any AOSP ROMs available? If not, how much junk/bloat comes with Lenovo's images?
4) I am looking to use this for business, mostly note taking and diagramming. The stylus input is the *biggest* factor for me and I want it to be smoooooooth. Am I making the right purchase?
I have experience rooting and loading custom roms via CWR on the Nexus One and SGS2-Tmo. I'm just trying to do my homework and see if this device is going to meet my needs before dropping a few hundred on it.
Thanks
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1) Correct, as of now.
2) Not applicable for a device you purchase that has ICS already loaded - which it will.
3) See 2 above.
4) You really have no option to the TPT if you're looking for a primarily business-oriented tablet, or one with an active digitizer pen. There aren't really any other tablets around that are designed to be anything other than entertainment toys.
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I think from what you've read on the forum YOU know you are making the wrong purchase but you're sick of waiting. Then Of course by all means pls get a tpt. That impatience of yours will be tested when you have to send the tablet for a few weeks to repair the broken usb/power button/volume button. The pen is NOT smooth-it develops a mind of its own after writing for a few mins. I'm also sorry to say that development on this tablet is DEAD. There were gallant efforts by koshu and Co but lenovo has proved that they are against development of any kind. Even updates from lenovo are a pain in the backside especially if u somehow had root or Cwm recovery. It's very difficult to learn from other people's mistakes until you make yours then you'd wish you been patient and saved a few hundred dollars
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I guess I was basing my impressions of the pen from this video: http://youtu.be/prqFXRFHbPE It looks like it has some quirks but for the most part these are software issues. I know I am running a risk buying something that is already out-dated, but I feel like the device still has potential with the right software and a price tag under $400.
I appreciate both of your replies but I guess I am no closer to figuring this out and should put off my purchase for another few months to see what else is in the pipeline. I wish there was more video and coverage of the stylus input on the new windows tablets.
I have been waiting *years* for the right tablet with pen input to come along. I do not understand how people deny that a market exists for these devices. I'm not even in school anymore (been hoping for this type of device since my first year of university) but if I was, as a science major the ability to draw and sketch ideas and diagrams, not to mention annotate PDFs/reading material, and have digital copies of my textbooks... it just all seems so obvious. As a web developer I am still constantly sketching out ideas and concepts and *cannot* take notes with a keyboard. I am a visual and tactile learner and the subtle underlines and annotations of my notes make all the difference.
Ok sorry for venting. Thanks for the replies.
ac251404 said:
Hey all,
I'm sick of waiting around for the Samsung Note 10.1" and I really want a device with great stylus support. I have owned ThinkPads in the past (when they were IBM) and from the reviews it seems like most peoples problems with this device were software, not hardware related. I've owned 3 other android devices, always rooted and loaded custom ROMs on them but I am seeing a lot less development activity and choice here. So some questions:
1) I will probably order from Amazon, 32GB w/ stylus. Not sure if it will come with ICS aka 4.0.3 aka OTA3 (I think?). If it does there is currently no way to root it correct?
2) I see there are a few rooting methods, packages, apps, etc. I am getting really confused about which ones are for which device & image (K1, TPT, ROW, JP, etc). Is there a "go to" guide for this specific device?
3) Are there any AOSP ROMs available? If not, how much junk/bloat comes with Lenovo's images?
4) I am looking to use this for business, mostly note taking and diagramming. The stylus input is the *biggest* factor for me and I want it to be smoooooooth. Am I making the right purchase?
I have experience rooting and loading custom roms via CWR on the Nexus One and SGS2-Tmo. I'm just trying to do my homework and see if this device is going to meet my needs before dropping a few hundred on it.
Thanks
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Welcome to the TPT forums!
First of all, this tablet has a very low dev support hence you might have to wait for a long time to be able to root your device and load custom roms. As for now, there is a user who has compiled AOSP jelly bean on his TPT which is partially working. So my point is that things are happening in the dev center but at a very slow pace.
If you are buying this tablet to make diagrams and sketches then I would highly recommend it. The plus points of the TPT is that the hardware is really solid. I unfortunately dropped it a couple of times (well my friends dropped it) from a considerable height and there are no scratches or dents and the tablet works just great hence its pretty well built. Having a full sized USB is a great deal maker for me, being a university student, helps me rally data to old systems real quick.
As far as pen capabilities are concerned, there are quite a few apps that will make great use of it. Like the apps named quill,lecture notes etc will definitely be great for the device. I personally take notes on quill and i must say that the tablet lives upto my expectations. I have virtually replaced pen and paper with it. After the ICS update, the device is pretty snappy and the general UI experience has improved great folds from the honeycomb times.
I never rooted my tablet and never felt the need of doing so, cause like I said, after the ICS update the device is much faster thanks to custom launchers and disabling certain vendor apps. The main reason why i bought this tablet was to take notes and it has surpassed my expectations.
So if sketching is the main use instead of multimedia experience, then go for it. It is a practical device.
Hope that helped, let me know if i can assist you any further.
Cheers
Vito
Hey there, just a quick summary of what the different versions mean:
US,ROW,WE etc is the region of the device.
TPT is the thinkpad tablet
K1 is an entirely different Lenovo tablet, with no pen support. As far as I can tell, the two are not compatible (ROMs etc.) I'm pretty sure that K1 activity is routed here because there is no dedicated forum for it.
I hope to write a guide for the device shortly. There is not much development going on but that does not mean it is dead. Devs are working on various (very alpha) ports of CM9 and AOSP JB, and the official lenovo update is apparently very nice (including making the pen even better to use )
In terms of bloat, lenovo does add quite a few annoying apps, but luckily most can be uninstalled without root.
I bought a 32GB ROW (because I'm in canada). I have been using NVflash and am able to flash roms without the use of CWM, which could turn out to be our salvation. It looks like US tablets have NVflash disabled. I don't know if this means all ROW tablets are unlocked, but I haven't heard of anyone with an ROW tablet not having NVflash access. ( I also haven't looked very hard)
Stay tuned, I have a feeling there will some nice breakthroughs on this tablet eventually
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1) I will probably order from Amazon, 32GB w/ stylus. Not sure if it will come with ICS aka 4.0.3 aka OTA3 (I think?). If it does there is currently no way to root it correct?
2) I see there are a few rooting methods, packages, apps, etc. I am getting really confused about which ones are for which device & image (K1, TPT, ROW, JP, etc). Is there a "go to" guide for this specific device?
3) Are there any AOSP ROMs available? If not, how much junk/bloat comes with Lenovo's images?
4) I am looking to use this for business, mostly note taking and diagramming. The stylus input is the *biggest* factor for me and I want it to be smoooooooth. Am I making the right purchase?
Thanks
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1) Probably you will get Honeycomb version. I do not believe there is anyone upgrading the stock. And probably no ICS loaded devices were made (seems like production stopped some time ago).
2) Hard to tell, as it is unclear which version Amazon is selling. But generally if you have some basic experience, you will make it.
3) There is no working aftermarket ROM. But after upgrade to ICS the situation is a lot better. Using alternative launcher ignoring the Lenovo SW can make the job.
4) I bought it for the same reason. More than HW you fight the SW looking for the best app to make your notes. The Lenovo SW is not usable. And every alternative I tried has some issues.
I clearly understand your dilemma. I doubt that waiting for Samy Note tablet will satisfy you, as this will be the first Samy experience with pen ... I expect a lot of problems, which Lenovo somehow solved till now with ICS release.
I was buying it as replacement for old Lenovo Windows tablet with pen. Especially in combination with OneNote it was great tool ... but it was old, heavy and broken by years of use.
After some time, I got used to this tablet, and I do not use notebook going to client. There TPT can make the job. For other more demanding work I have standard "big" PC.
Of course ... if you buy TPT you will have to accept some "features" like slow charging without full power off (and cold boot after charge), or sometimes frozen unlocking touch till you do not pull the pen of. I don't know how you, but I can live with these problems .
Generally. There is NO device with ANY operating system, which can satisfy needs of me and probably you. Having electronic alternative for paper and pen.
Anyway I'm more satisfied with current status than with lot of papers, where I usually I was not able to find the note I needed
If you need such device, go for TPT a use to live with it. Not perfect, but probably the best available.
Galaxy Note 10.1
Woohoo, the galaxy note 10.1 has been officially announced for release later this month. If you have waited this long, a couple of weeks shouldn't bee too much. As for me, I'm simply salivating at the specs - Quad core processor, wifi+3g versions, 7000mAh battery, 1200 x 800 display; weighing in at approx 600g (way lighter than the ipad). Oh and you can bet that samsung's pen will be far better than the horrific stylus on the thinkpad (just ask galaxy note users). Having had a galaxy s2/s3, I know that samsung products are extremely easy to root, mod update, etc; unlike the thinkpad where even updating is a pain. All in all, I'm elated that I can finally toss out this piece of garbage that lenovo put out. Infact, if someone offers me 100pounds for my thinkpad, I'll toss it to them with some change.
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/ipad-and-tablets/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-review-50007108/
how do you like it
Not very impressive resolution for the price.
So a couple things:
1)in the market for a tablet
2) here are requirements: tvout (for slingplayer), front facing camera, easy to root if not vanilla android
Now the reason I post here is because the n7 checks two of those off my list. What I ask is if the general consensus after the 4.2 upgrade on the n7 is that there is some more lag than liked, if it's still a worthy buy. The n10 checks all three off my list, but i'm on a budget. Or if I should be waiting for a different tablet or if there is possibly one out that meets my criteria. Again, tv out is a big deal to me. I'm basically new to the tablet market, looking for android, and as a loyal nexus s owner with cm10 I look here for advice. Once again if this is the wrong place I apologize, but right now I'm leaning more toward then n7 than anyother tablet, but I don't know anyone that owns one and would like honest feedback as far as quality/performance goes.
Thanks.
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So a couple things:
1)in the market for a tablet
2) here are requirements: tvout (for slingplayer), front facing camera, easy to root if not vanilla android
Now the reason I post here is because the n7 checks two of those off my list. What I ask is if the general consensus after the 4.2 upgrade on the n7 is that there is some more lag than liked, if it's still a worthy buy. The n10 checks all three off my list, but i'm on a budget. Or if I should be waiting for a different tablet or if there is possibly one out that meets my criteria. Again, tv out is a big deal to me. I'm basically new to the tablet market, looking for android, and as a loyal nexus s owner with cm10 I look here for advice. Once again if this is the wrong place I apologize, but right now I'm leaning more toward then n7 than anyother tablet, but I don't know anyone that owns one and would like honest feedback as far as quality/performance goes.
Thanks.
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what is your third checklist?
I don't like the 4.2 update, but it does make a tablet just a little bit slower (stock, no root). Most of ppl lag because they come from a rom or etc.
I think it's still a good investment. You can't find any cheaper tablet with this kind of hardware. Can you? 249 for Tegra and 32gb, although the
resolution is not better than Ipad. Nexus 10 is personally too big for me.
Hope it help.
This isn't the first "What stick to buy" thread, but I'm hoping that someone can either point me to a reference - some kind of buying guide - or a comaprison matrix between some of the most popular models sold buy Geeksbuying, Amazon, the other main retailers.
Which sticks have good software support? I.E. up to date at 4.2.2 or newer, rootable, etc.
Which sticks have good HW acceleration for MX Player, XMBC, etc.? Seems like all these sticks use the Rockchip RK3188, are there differences in this regard?
Are there better chipsets available in Android sticks besides the RK3188?
Would all sticks work with a cheap USB-ethernet dongle? That's what I'm planning to use
Anything else I should keep in mind in researching?
I've seen a few people vouch for the Ugoos UM2:
http://www.amazon.com/Ugoos-RK3188-...UTF8&qid=1387785373&sr=8-1&keywords=Ugoos+UM2
This one seems like the cheapest, anyone familiar with it?
http://www.amazon.com/Quad-Core-pro...e=UTF8&qid=1387785522&sr=8-11&keywords=rk3188
I think it would be good to work towards having a sticky post at the top of this forum for buyers like myself - would be happy to help contribute towards it once I become more familiar with the space.
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This isn't the first "What stick to buy" thread, but I'm hoping that someone can either point me to a reference - some kind of buying guide - or a comaprison matrix between some of the most popular models sold buy Geeksbuying, Amazon, the other main retailers.
Which sticks have good software support? I.E. up to date at 4.2.2 or newer, rootable, etc.
Which sticks have good HW acceleration for MX Player, XMBC, etc.? Seems like all these sticks use the Rockchip RK3188, are there differences in this regard?
Are there better chipsets available in Android sticks besides the RK3188?
Would all sticks work with a cheap USB-ethernet dongle? That's what I'm planning to use
Anything else I should keep in mind in researching?
I've seen a few people vouch for the Ugoos UM2:
http://www.amazon.com/Ugoos-RK3188-...UTF8&qid=1387785373&sr=8-1&keywords=Ugoos+UM2
This one seems like the cheapest, anyone familiar with it?
http://www.amazon.com/Quad-Core-pro...e=UTF8&qid=1387785522&sr=8-11&keywords=rk3188
I think it would be good to work towards having a sticky post at the top of this forum for buyers like myself - would be happy to help contribute towards it once I become more familiar with the space.
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I have Ugoos UM2 everything works out of the box fine!, but you won't find a lot support on XDA though..
For rooting you can go to my thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495391
Also I'm not messing much with this stick, bc lack of time, I just using Netflix, HBO GO and Showtime anytime and everything run fine.....