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Bluetooth Gamepro Gamepad - Does it work?

I read here
androidforums.com/htc-incredible/88993-gamepad-microusb-bluetooth-incredible.html
that the gamepro gamepad works with HTC incredible using their latest drivers.
Can anyone verify??
GamePro - Android Trial is the app and such
He said he used this
MSI BGP100 bluetooth gamepad.
Thanks!

Yes it works, I think he is charging a bit much though, ten dollars for a cheap ass driver?

Really? Ive been looking all over for a bluetooth gamepad solution and several other Incredible owners have told me directly the msi-bgp pad and that app do not work. We simply dont have the right bluetooth stack on our phones.

Well, mymobilegear.com/showthread.php?t=18203&page=2
The guy says he got it to work on incredible using their new beta software. Someone try it out for me? They are giving away beta keys for testing.

Mouse for xoom

Just got my demo test unit from motorola today FINALLY after weeks of waiting. Anyways I am testing out some applications that we will use in house but my biggest thing is I would like to use a mouse on it.
We have an application thats a lot of quick point and clicks and the employees / doctors would perfer a mouse. I myself could care less as I think its fine without.
I got a microsoft BT mouse synced but it wont connect. It shows it as an input device too.
Any ideas on this?

ChrisN1313 said:
Just got my demo test unit from motorola today FINALLY after weeks of waiting. Anyways I am testing out some applications that we will use in house but my biggest thing is I would like to use a mouse on it.
We have an application thats a lot of quick point and clicks and the employees / doctors would perfer a mouse. I myself could care less as I think its fine without.
I got a microsoft BT mouse synced but it wont connect. It shows it as an input device too.
Any ideas on this?
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Yes, return your Xoom and get an actual PC. The ASUS Slate 12" Tablet sounds like exactly what you need/want.

That would work great, but its bigger/heavier and were focusing on the internal lte when its available. Since some employees are on the go and what not wireless isnt always around. Ontop of deploying wireless thoughtout a 200,000 sq building would cost alost more then the $20/month data we get.

ChrisN1313 said:
That would work great, but its bigger/heavier and were focusing on the internal lte when its available. Since some employees are on the go and what not wireless isnt always around. Ontop of deploying wireless thoughtout a 200,000 sq building would cost alost more then the $20/month data we get.
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By the time your employees get done unpacking all of the necessary **** they will need to set up and use a "tablet" with their keyboard and mouse... they might as well be using a laptop or netbook.
As for covering 200,000 SQ of building with wifi you might want to check out the D-Link DES-1228P which is a 24 port PoE web smart switch that will run the DWL-3140AP. It's a small hockey puck sized AP which can be placed anywhere in your building in conjuction with the POE switch. All you need to do is toss CAT5 and you're done. You will get seamless coverage from AP to AP as the switch hands off the client.
The switch is about $400 or less, and the AP "pucks" are about $99 ea.
You could cover tons of building for $1k out of pocket
I'm not just trying to rain on your parade, in all seriousness... I just have to shake my head and ask why someone would want so badly to turn a tablet experience back into a traditional PC experience. Just get a PC.

PS: It would probably be cheaper still to just pick up a MiFi unit or something like that, then you don't have to depend on LTE inside the device.

cwizardtx said:
PS: It would probably be cheaper still to just pick up a MiFi unit or something like that, then you don't have to depend on LTE inside the device.
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mifi is $50 a month... where 3g/lte is $20 a month . I understand what your saying but being mulitpile floors and a cisco house ap's wont be cheap. I would need at least 12 or 13 ap's for decent covereage. Our building is like a bomb shelter here so wireless doesnt travel that well. The Ap's we use are roughly $600. Have plently of space on my cisco switch to handle them so thats covered. 3g doesnt cover in the building but 4g covers the entire building and does it well.
+ injectors , cable, labor its a $10,000 project. Not including the tablet PC which you can figure 3-5k depending on what I go with. Which isnt bad but. Im looking at $1200 a year for service on 5 tablets. + or - $3000 for 5 devices. Then I dont have to worry about if there is wireless when there out of our building. I really just think overall its easier and less stuff to deal with.
Anyways back on topic has anyone been able to get a BT mouse working on a xoom or any other android tablet for that matter

All other cost and etc. points aside, there just isn't mouse/cursor support for 3.0, and I'm assuming were a good long way out, if ever, from seeing it implemented in a way you can rely on daily in a job.

martonikaj said:
All other cost and etc. points aside, there just isn't mouse/cursor support for 3.0, and I'm assuming were a good long way out, if ever, from seeing it implemented in a way you can rely on daily in a job.
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Ya thats what I was kinda thinking but was confused since it did see that it was an input device.
Thanks for the input

cwizardtx said:
By the time your employees get done unpacking all of the necessary **** they will need to set up and use a "tablet" with their keyboard and mouse... they might as well be using a laptop or netbook.
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I disagree here. There are times when I think I really want to use a Mouse. It's not 100% of the time to categorizing it the way you are doing it is not really fair. 80% of the time I don't need or want a mouse or keyboard but the other 20% I want the flexibility to do with the tablet what I want to do with it so it fits MY needs. A netbook is not what I want.

Guys, can we stop replying to threads by just telling people what they want is a bad idea?
I think being able to use a mouse would be awesome. If you have a mouse, you can VPN into your home PC (or use Citrix) and use real software on the occasions you need it. Everyone says "get a real PC" but I'd only want a real PC like 1% of the time, and the rest of the time I want a tablet. That 1% may not be a lot, but the more utility I get out of it, the better.
That said, I'm sure this will be a possibility soon. CyanogenMod on the Nexus One (and likely others) supports using a bluetooth mouse. A cursor shows up and everything works great.
So... whenever Honeycomb goes AOSP (which is taking a looooong time), we'll probably see customized versions of Honeycomb with mouse support.
So it will probably happen. It just may be a while.

Facegarden said:
Guys, can we stop replying to threads by just telling people what they want is a bad idea?
I think being able to use a mouse would be awesome. If you have a mouse, you can VPN into your home PC (or use Citrix) and use real software on the occasions you need it. Everyone says "get a real PC" but I'd only want a real PC like 1% of the time, and the rest of the time I want a tablet. That 1% may not be a lot, but the more utility I get out of it, the better.
That said, I'm sure this will be a possibility soon. CyanogenMod on the Nexus One (and likely others) supports using a bluetooth mouse. A cursor shows up and everything works great.
So... whenever Honeycomb goes AOSP (which is taking a looooong time), we'll probably see customized versions of Honeycomb with mouse support.
So it will probably happen. It just may be a while.
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I didn't say it was a bad idea, I said it's not going to happen anytime soon.
And the example you give unfortunately really isn't going to help him. Do you expect him to buy multiple Xooms, root them all, install custom software or a completely custom ROM on all of them to enable BT mouse support, then hand them to the employees? That's just not gonna happen lol.

cwizardtx said:
By the time your employees get done unpacking all of the necessary **** they will need to set up and use a "tablet" with their keyboard and mouse... they might as well be using a laptop or netbook....
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You mean... a tablet, a bluetooth mouse, and a bluetooth keyboard?
Show me a touchscreen netbook that can be used while you're walking as well as it works on a table. A tablet + KB + Mouse means you can walk around with the tablet and use it in your hands, or you can place it on your desk and use it like a PC if you'd like. I had a netbook and it actually wasn't very good for either of those - I'd still get a BT mouse if I needed to use one, and they're impossible to use while walking around.
cwizardtx said:
As for covering 200,000 SQ of building with wifi you might want to check out the D-Link DES-1228P which is a 24 port PoE web smart switch that will run the DWL-3140AP. It's a small hockey puck sized AP which can be placed anywhere in your building in conjuction with the POE switch. All you need to do is toss CAT5 and you're done. You will get seamless coverage from AP to AP as the switch hands off the client.
The switch is about $400 or less, and the AP "pucks" are about $99 ea.
You could cover tons of building for $1k out of pocket
I'm not just trying to rain on your parade, in all seriousness... I just have to shake my head and ask why someone would want so badly to turn a tablet experience back into a traditional PC experience. Just get a PC.
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Labor man, Labor. Sounds like this is a hospital. Concrete walls, lots of metal. You'd have to route an AP to every corner of the building. Thats a lot of work. However, I don't see how 4G would penetrate any better in most hospitals, so maybe its more like a doctor's office. Still, covering a 200k sf building with working wifi costs way more than $1k.

martonikaj said:
I didn't say it was a bad idea, I said it's not going to happen anytime soon.
And the example you give unfortunately really isn't going to help him. Do you expect him to buy multiple Xooms, root them all, install custom software or a completely custom ROM on all of them to enable BT mouse support, then hand them to the employees? That's just not gonna happen lol.
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Depends. Installing custom roms takes maybe an hour max if you're used to it. If they are designing this software to be used in Doctor's offices, its possible that they are getting paid a lot for it. Pay a tech $20 an hour to install a ROM, charge $20 more for the end product, done. Or don't charge extra, its still only $20.
I work for a company that is considering replacing our custom touchscreen industrial testers with Xooms. In that case, we'd buy a xoom, install some software, and resell them for $2000 plus whatever bluetooth sensors our customers buy. Really we're just selling Xoom software for $1200, but its all the same. If we had to install a custom ROM it would still be worth it. Besides, it can probably all be done with a script (i'm not sure of that though).
-Taylor

Dell makes a cheap laptop that the screen turns around and it becomes a tablet. Just an idea...not saying you have to go this route.
Sent from my EVO

Facegarden said:
Depends. Installing custom roms takes maybe an hour max if you're used to it. If they are designing this software to be used in Doctor's offices, its possible that they are getting paid a lot for it. Pay a tech $20 an hour to install a ROM, charge $20 more for the end product, done. Or don't charge extra, its still only $20.
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Its not that its labor intensive to root and install custom software on the Xooms, its that no matter what people say, a rooted phone (tablet) with custom ROM is never going to be as stable or user friendly as the stock software when it comes to handing it to a person who doesn't know what they're doing.
We're talking about having to install completely custom software in order to use a mouse. I think there are easier ways to accomplish this. Maybe I'm crazy.

Facegarden said:
Guys, can we stop replying to threads by just telling people what they want is a bad idea?
I think being able to use a mouse would be awesome. If you have a mouse, you can VPN into your home PC (or use Citrix) and use real software on the occasions you need it. Everyone says "get a real PC" but I'd only want a real PC like 1% of the time, and the rest of the time I want a tablet. That 1% may not be a lot, but the more utility I get out of it, the better.
That said, I'm sure this will be a possibility soon. CyanogenMod on the Nexus One (and likely others) supports using a bluetooth mouse. A cursor shows up and everything works great.
So... whenever Honeycomb goes AOSP (which is taking a looooong time), we'll probably see customized versions of Honeycomb with mouse support.
So it will probably happen. It just may be a while.
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You're right. Settle for a stylus.

I have a dell streak when I had Steve's 1.1.1 Rom I did sync a magic mouse and had pointer and everything, I was running ADW Launcher by then.. perhaps is a Launcher thing? I also have a BT keyboard with a built in "mouse joystick" and when I sync the kb I am able to use the "pointer mouse" but it just doesn't show as a pointer on the screen, but when swype is up i can click and drag the mouse and see the line traces. Again this is running Froyo 2.2.

I saw mouse used on Notion Ink Adam without any problem. But that wasn't on Honeycomb. I need mouse for precise work through VPN (I plan to use tablet on notes stand on my piano to manage music sequencer through VPN). If honeycomb doesn't have a mouse cursor my plans are ruined.
Is capacitive stylus precise enough to - let's say - select something 8 pixels wide and 8 pixels high?

Facegarden said:
Guys, can we stop replying to threads by just telling people what they want is a bad idea?
I think being able to use a mouse would be awesome. If you have a mouse, you can VPN into your home PC (or use Citrix) and use real software on the occasions you need it. Everyone says "get a real PC" but I'd only want a real PC like 1% of the time, and the rest of the time I want a tablet. That 1% may not be a lot, but the more utility I get out of it, the better.
That said, I'm sure this will be a possibility soon. CyanogenMod on the Nexus One (and likely others) supports using a bluetooth mouse. A cursor shows up and everything works great.
So... whenever Honeycomb goes AOSP (which is taking a looooong time), we'll probably see customized versions of Honeycomb with mouse support.
So it will probably happen. It just may be a while.
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Thats good to hear. Now if I can get cyanogenMod on my thunderbolt that would be even better news

Facegarden said:
You mean... a tablet, a bluetooth mouse, and a bluetooth keyboard?
Show me a touchscreen netbook that can be used while you're walking as well as it works on a table. A tablet + KB + Mouse means you can walk around with the tablet and use it in your hands, or you can place it on your desk and use it like a PC if you'd like. I had a netbook and it actually wasn't very good for either of those - I'd still get a BT mouse if I needed to use one, and they're impossible to use while walking around.
Labor man, Labor. Sounds like this is a hospital. Concrete walls, lots of metal. You'd have to route an AP to every corner of the building. Thats a lot of work. However, I don't see how 4G would penetrate any better in most hospitals, so maybe its more like a doctor's office. Still, covering a 200k sf building with working wifi costs way more than $1k.
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ding ding ding But I dont know why but 4 g covers the entire hospital very very well. There are 1 or 2 dead spots but it covers 98% of the area, which is why I was looking at a tablet in the 1st place.

It's in the mail!

Hello,
Well I've got the 32gb in the mail and the keyboard coming in a day later..am so excited and can't wait to have it rooted!
Ive been reading everything I can on this forum for the last two days.
I'm anticipating this tablet to come in quite instrumental in my sales presentations. Ill be picking up a second keyboard too..to leave one at the office.
Would anyone know any good presentation software? I see remoting into my home pc for use of at least powerpoint happening..probably for photoshop too. With that ability, Im hoping for a laptop replacement. Any good handwriting,note taking, or multitasking app suggestions?
Im wondering: will the keyboard arrive with a powercord too?..that would be nice.
Also wonder what is the extent of being able to incorporate my sprint Epic? Remoting to/from? Bluetooth transfers? Print capibilities etc.
Anyhow.. Im pumped and looking forward to learning with this forum

All you get with the Keyboard, is the Keyboard and some paper.

Boo I guess now I've got to sink another $40. I probably am going to want a carrying case of some kind too. Sure addds up quick!

[looking for dev] An App that emulates touch input to physical buttons!

Hi guys
So I'm a proud owner of the iControlPad (http://www.icontrolpad.com/) and its a totally awesome device already working very good through an App called BluezIME.
Anyway in the ICP forums there is this Thread about an iphone App called Blutrol.
Here's a link with some info about it:
http://www.ringwald.ch/cydia/blutrol/
Now what this app does, is simulating touch input. So if you hit a button on the gamepad, it's like you would hit the touchscreen in a specific place (configurable). Thus making real Gamepad controls compatible with many many games in the market (there are still some limitations).
I think this would be great on Android. There are lots of different gamepads out already, and many companies are advertising the Gamepad compatibility of their devices like the Asus Transformer Prime.
Sadly i have no idea how to port/develop something like that but I'd definately pay for it!

Sixaxis controller.
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yeah, sixaxis controler is what you are looking for. you can also download mappings for many popular gamer here on xda ready to play

Thx for your replies. I checked out the app, but as i understand it its strictly for use with the sixaxis controller. I was looking for something a bit more "universal" so i can map buttons from any bluetooth controller including the ICP.
It would be cool to be able to map android keyboard input to the touchscreen. Because then its automatically possible to use several devices that use keyboard input. Not sure if this is possible with the sixaxis app.
And i'm not really prepared to buy a ps3 controller because i dont own a ps3

Lol yeah u should try contacting them. See how they did it etc
Sent from my good old Galaxy S II. Hit thx if u think i helped and may the force be with u.

Still looking
I agree that this would be great! Sorry to dig up an old thread, but anybody seen anything like this yet? I'm hoping to use it with the Impulse Controller I just backed on Kickstarter...

There is an app now for this, its universal and supports keyboard mouse and virtually anything else, its called USB/BT joystick center 7 it is 5 bucks and slightly confusing to use, but it does work.

[Q] Bluetooth 4.0 Low Energy

Other flagships have hardware that support this - does the Nexus and is Android 4.2 likely to support it? (4.1 does not).
Why is it useful? Well if you use a heart rate monitor for sports, it will last longer. It can also be used to connect devices.
It's a huge feature for me as a runner. Currently I use a Garmin 305 which is an awesome, if ugly, product. With apps like strava / endomondo and more, it would be nice to have all this, with GPS and music on one device

I believe Bluetooth 4.0 is present on this device. Check the spec sheet on Google Play, but I'm 99.99% sure.

The hardware is present for Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) but as yet, no version of Android supports it.
There is an issue thread on google regarding this - if people star it google might treat the issue as a priority.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
I think google is looking to NFC for nearfield communication forgetting some of the cool uses bluetooth can be put to.

kieren2 said:
The hardware is present for Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) but as yet, no version of Android supports it.
There is an issue thread on google regarding this - if people star it google might treat the issue as a priority.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
I think google is looking to NFC for nearfield communication forgetting some of the cool uses bluetooth can be put to.
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The Broadcom BCM4330 supports BTLE (http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s549642), and according to this website: http://www.ubmtechinsights.com/repo...market-reports/Report-Profile/?ReportKey=8713
The LG Optimus G uses that Broadcom chip, so it's possible that the Nexus 4 also uses it?
According to the newly updated Android 4.2 changelog: http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html
Android 4.2 introduces a new Bluetooth stack optimized for use with Android devices. The new Bluetooth stack developed in collaboration between Google and Broadcom replaces the stack based on BlueZ and provides improved compatibility and reliability.
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I sure hope that we will have BTLE support with the Nexus 4. I really want to buy a Polar H7 HRM!

I'm glad someone else is concerned
It doesn't look too good. Although they have rewritten the stack, there is no mention of Bluetooth Low Energy or Bluetooth Smart.
Apart from the issue raised with google in my first post, I have no idea how to reach out to them regarding this. Does anyone know? This is Android general rather than device specific. Pretty much all the new handsets have hardware that support BLE but there is no OS support in Android

At last - some hope. Although there is no ETA, looks like we can hope for BLE support in Android 4.3
"BLE will be the next major feature we are going to add."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/android-platform/CYtxCmtZ-WI/aIzBq7KbKVUJ

Any updates on the BLE support? I am working on a BLE breakout board and would like to get it working with the Nexus 4 rather than just the computer via a dongle. From what I've found online there is a BLE stack in 4.2, yet for some reason I can't find it or get anything to work.

What exactly would this do? I understand the low energy stuff, but I don't see what else it has, and whether we have to enable it first, or something.

yahoowizard said:
What exactly would this do? I understand the low energy stuff, but I don't see what else it has, and whether we have to enable it first, or something.
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BLE is a wireless protocol that peripheral devices can use to interface with your phone. Somewhat similar to regular bluetooth (and other proprietary wireless links), it can allow a sensor to wirelessly stream data or allow a phone to control a robot or any other device with BLE. I'm not sure if that answers your question. The real benefit is that BLE uses significantly less power (upon other things) and thus can enable a new set of devices. For example, part of my dissertation is a cardiac monitoring system which I would like to connect to my Nexus 4.

Any news?
Hi guys,
Are there any news on Bluetooth 4.0 / smart ready on the Nexus 4 and maybe 4.2.2 yet?
Was someone already able to pair the Nexus 4 with the Polar H7?
Maybe I'll order one and try if it works by now.
Thanks for your answers anyway. :good:

I have the same question about BLE.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2

kieren2 said:
Other flagships have hardware that support this - does the Nexus and is Android 4.2 likely to support it? (4.1 does not).
Why is it useful? Well if you use a heart rate monitor for sports, it will last longer. It can also be used to connect devices.
It's a huge feature for me as a runner. Currently I use a Garmin 305 which is an awesome, if ugly, product. With apps like strava / endomondo and more, it would be nice to have all this, with GPS and music on one device
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+1
Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.

id628 said:
+1
Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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Arrrghg - your post is what I found when searching for Fitbit, which I just bought. Very frustrating our N4's can't support the BT connection yet. I also hate that stupid dongle!

The new Fitbits use BLE too? Wow, Google need to get Android caught up, really never expect them to be behind with technologies.
So, should I send my H7 back, or wait???

Google finally started looking into BLE two days ago. See the bottom of this page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371

oren_b said:
Google finally started looking into BLE two days ago. See the bottom of this page:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=33371
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Added my vote to get them to acknowledge this. Amazing that nothing has been done yet.

id628 said:
+1
Would love to play with the Stick-n-Find and/or Meterplug. And upgrade my Fitbit to the Bluetooth 4.0 version so I don't have to keep plugging that stupid dongle into my laptop.
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kalipedia said:
Arrrghg - your post is what I found when searching for Fitbit, which I just bought. Very frustrating our N4's can't support the BT connection yet. I also hate that stupid dongle!
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AndyCr15 said:
The new Fitbits use BLE too? Wow, Google need to get Android caught up, really never expect them to be behind with technologies.
So, should I send my H7 back, or wait???
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I just bought a Fitbit One which uses BLE. I'm with you guys in hoping Google gets this feature added and supported very soon. It would be really nice!

This will be addressed with K release.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda premium

I wonder which one will come out first. The Fitbit Flex or a Nexus 4 update with BLE.

I'm hoping it's coming soon, I just ordered a bunch of Motes to instrument my house...
http://igg.me/at/motes/x/1655370
danny.ffm said:
Hi guys,
Are there any news on Bluetooth 4.0 / smart ready on the Nexus 4 and maybe 4.2.2 yet?
Was someone already able to pair the Nexus 4 with the Polar H7?
Maybe I'll order one and try if it works by now.
Thanks for your answers anyway. :good:
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