Hey,
Last weekend my phone got wet (was completly sunk in water) but after drying everything seems fine. I still cannot believe it myself but yet i couldnt find any damage (except the waterseals).
Now i wanted to know if there is an app to test the sensors and anything possible? Couldnt find any on market.
Iam running cyanogenmod 7.2 stable, so there are also some developeroptions...but nothing that says 'yes okay the sensor responds and give me normal values' .
Does somebody know anything?
Thanks
knighToFdemonS
Make sure you backup everything. It'll probably die in a few weeks when corrosion starts inside...
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I jumped on a pool with the phone in my pocket.. yeah stupid but anyways, I had my phone battery out, sim out and SD card and sunk it all in rice for about a day, your phone should turn out fine aside from stains on your screen which will eventually clear up a little. My phone is still running great.
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Uh sure corrosion ... sounds bad...i hope it wont die... i gently dryed it with a fan and held it a long time bodywarm.
I was on a festival and at the stages when heavy rain starts and my tent got completly drowned (phone was off for batterysave).
As i pulled it out the water it vibrated 3 times as the water run out. I instantly took out the battery. One day later we got home and i used the fan.
After another hour cooling down, it booted up with some flickering lights but everything works. Flickering lights are
gone now, too.
I just wanted to ask if theres a developers or engeneers app for a healthcheck^^ perhaps some memory is damaged i dont know of yet or something like that.
Best bet is to open er up and properly clean and dry everything you can. To avoid corrosion and to be certain it's dry
a little offtopic but, is the Desire Z actually waterproof? there aren't any dump***es on youtube testing it
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a little offtopic but, is the Desire Z actually waterproof? there aren't any dump***es on youtube testing it
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Doubt it, but mine was literally submerged in water for maybe a minute, and my phone works the exact same. Rice man, works wonders.
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Bowl of rice, nice idea...
Is there any tut how to open the G2? I tried myself but got stuck after 2 screws...couldnt find another and case wouldnt open^^'
And no, G2 is not waterproof...at least there is no commercial that says so^^
My one was at least half an hour fully under water (not a bit was out of the water), but it was switched off.
As I pulled it out of the little lake in my tent it vibrated 3 times (perhaps an automated protection of the electronic circuit? if too wet sensor switches off the whole circuit?) and i removed the battery in panic.
Then i didnt turn it on for 2 days. One day dried open air at the festival and the second day i gently used a hairdryer to get rid of the water under the display.
Its still like a miracle for me...never thought it would even turn on again.
not waterproof
there are three t5 torx screws, then you need a plastic pry tool or guitar pick to open the case. search youtube for a video like digitizer replacement and you'll see how to do it
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I was putting on a screen protector and the water got to the screen now the lower part of the screen is very white. Still very readable. What do ya'll recommend I do?
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Is the liquid damage indicator normal? If so, swap it out with your provider. If it indicates liquid damage then see if there's an out-of-warranty replacement option and cross your fingers.
You could try drying it out with rice or silica dessicant. It might take a few days. Got any picts?
Anyone know how many liquid damage stickers are on the device? I know the one by the battery is still white. What the hell do i say. I just woke up and it was damaged.
That happened on my G1 and someone told me to pull the battery and set it on top of the refrigerator over night.
I know it sounds weird but the next morning it was dry. Something about the warm dry air coming from behind the fridge.
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You could try drying it out with rice or silica dessicant. It might take a few days. Got any picts?
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This guy is right.
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That happened on my G1 and someone told me to pull the battery and set it on top of the refrigerator over night.
I know it sounds weird but the next morning it was dry. Something about the warm dry air coming from behind the fridge.
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Put it on anything that radiates heat, nothing extreme but something that is somewhat warm to the touch. Refrigerator works well, also a PC, DVD player left running, etc.
Leave the battery out for 24-48 hours and see if it dries up the moisture...
Dry heat will help but be careful in case there's something that produces humidity nearby. I wouldn't leave mine on an appliance in the kitchen. I'd opt for an actual desiccant like silica. If you have a new jacket or pair of shoes you can find a packet in there. It's a long shot but rice also works in a pinch.
If that fails I'd send it to the OEM and play stupid. I don't think there are other LDIs in the device but if there are, I don't believe your provider would charge you a replacement fee because you checked the only one that's accessible. Just check it out with the respected technical department you talk to before sending it on, or ask a retail rep if your provider has a store or kiosk at a nearby mall. Just say you normally keep it in your pocket or in a protective case and boom, screen got messed up.
Same thing happened to mine, def the computer or fridge is a great way to get rid of the water. But only dry heat!
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Yeah, it doesn't seem that huge problem, just give it some time and warmth
Some people have heated the (electric) oven up to 40-50°C and put the phone there, but I would recommend that only if any other method doesn't help..
Dry rice or silica dessicant. Take out the battery and stick it in there for a few days and it will be good as new.
Don't heat it, it won't work any better than this method.
Well I let it dry on top if my cable box and I happy to report all but four very very little dots dried up. I've learned my lesson and will only be doing dry installs for now on.
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ddgarcia05 said:
I was putting on a screen protector and the water got to the screen now the lower part of the screen is very white. Still very readable. What do ya'll recommend I do?
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THE WATER? What water? Why on earth were you using water as part of this process?
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THE WATER? What water? Why on earth were you using water as part of this process?
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Some of these clear body shields are wet-applicant. They come with a little thing of liquid adhesive that you apply first. I've been around phones long enough to know that they don't play well with water, so I've steered clear, but I know plenty of people who don't have issues with them.
For the record, every wet-applicant protection system I've ever seen explicitly states that you should only apply it with the battery out and leave it out to dry for ~48 hours (to prevent exactly this).
Yes but this is my only phone and there's no way I can not use the phone for that long.
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Well I let it dry on top if my cable box and I happy to report all but four very very little dots dried up. I've learned my lesson and will only be doing dry installs for now on.
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Haha, very creative. I wouldn't even think to use a cable box as the heat source even though I've been running one of those laptop cooling fan bases upside down on top of mine to vent the heat that was killing hard drives.
ddgarcia05 said:
Yes but this is my only phone and there's no way I can not use the phone for that long.
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When messing around with phones to the degree that most of us do, it's always a good idea to keep a cheapo backup around.
ddgarcia05 said:
Yes but this is my only phone and there's no way I can not use the phone for that long.
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I would highly recommend picking up a cheap backup - you never know when you'll need it. Typically you can just snag the cheapest prepaid phone that T-Mobile offers, they usually have something for $20 or less. Toss the SIM it comes with and just keep it around for an extra. That way, if something were to happen with your main phone, you've got *something* to keep you going until you can figure out a replacement.
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I would highly recommend picking up a cheap backup - you never know when you'll need it. Typically you can just snag the cheapest prepaid phone that T-Mobile offers, they usually have something for $20 or less. Toss the SIM it comes with and just keep it around for an extra. That way, if something were to happen with your main phone, you've got *something* to keep you going until you can figure out a replacement.
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yeah, and if this is not your first T-mobile phone, you can just go back to the old phone for a day or two while you wait.
Mine had the same thing from a paper cup leak onto the table my G2 was sitting on. It didn't resolve with the rice/heat tricks but T-mo switched it out under warranty. No down time because they ship the replacement and you send the defective one back in the same box.
Get closet dehumidifier. It's at Walgreens in the hardware section. It comes in a plastic tub and you put it in your closet to remove moisture from your clothes. They're little white beads in a basket with a cup underneath to catch the moisture. Put your phone in an enclosed space with that.
If the water was clean it should leave no residue. If it was soapy then you will probably have marks left over afterwards
:-(
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Today at work my Nexus popped out of my pocket and into the rain. Screen broken and water damage has destroyed my baby. Can anyone post a step by step of how to access USB Mass Storage?
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Today at work my Nexus popped out of my pocket and into the rain. Screen broken and water damage has destroyed my baby. Can anyone post a step by step of how to access USB Mass Storage?
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Sorry to hear that. If it can't turn it on then no. However there are ways to get water out of the device. Put it in a sack of rice for many days . I'm not quite sure about it. Search google about water removal.
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rice can be good solution ... not hard to try
If rice doesn't cut it, you can try to open it and clean it. Or get someone who knows how to do that, to do it for you.
It is a desperate solution, but quite a few things can be fixed like this. And since the NS doesn't require special screwdrivers...
A tip from my friend experiencing similar accident is:
Don't ever turn the phone on after it sunk in the water.
Remove the back cover, put out the battery.
Bury them (phone, battery, back cover) in a sack of rice for some days.
My friend told me that he got his Nexus S revived after doing this.
Hope this helps.
coming from an engineering background I would first take it completely apart and rice those components. the more surface area to dry the better.
My phone survived complete submersion
glennkaonang said:
A tip from my friend experiencing similar accident is:
Don't ever turn the phone on after it sunk in the water.
Remove the back cover, put out the battery.
Bury them (phone, battery, back cover) in a sack of rice for some days.
My friend told me that he got his Nexus S revived after doing this.
Hope this helps.
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This is perfect advice.
One night while fishing I fell out of boat into the water with my HTC Wizard on in my back pocket. Once I was safe, I pulled the phone out of my pocket and took the battery out. When I got home I packed the phone and battery in rice for a few days. That got 99% of the water out. There was still water behind the screen. So I did a Google search and found some guy in france who fell in the water fishing, and did what I did, then used a MICROWAVE to get the rest of the water out of the screen. Soooo.... I stuck the phone in the microwave for 3 seconds at a time until the screen dried. Worked like a frickin champ.
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This is perfect advice.
One night while fishing I fell out of boat into the water with my HTC Wizard on in my back pocket. Once I was safe, I pulled the phone out of my pocket and took the battery out. When I got home I packed the phone and battery in rice for a few days. That got 99% of the water out. There was still water behind the screen. So I did a Google search and found some guy in france who fell in the water fishing, did what I did, then used a MICROWAVE to get the rest of the water out of the screen. Soooo.... I stuck the phone in the microwave for 3 seconds at a time until the screen dried. Worked like a frickin champ.
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damn lol crazy stuff
my LCD is broken haha. I wish it only had water damage. I loved this phone.
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Ahh I remember you from a sprint thread, that rain hit So Cal hard this Friday, sorry about the phone :/
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Ahh I remember you from a sprint thread, that rain hit So Cal hard this Friday, sorry about the phone :/
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Sprint thread? & yeah. I worked outside during it haha.
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Hi there,
My phone got slightly water damaged last night from what I think was beer. It was in my pocket and someone sprayed some beer at me which must have got in it. I didn't realise till this morning by which time I had already had my phone plugged in and charging overnight. I have taken it apart and dried it in the sun. However when I reassemble it, it doesn't switch on. If I hold down the power button for a long time, it vibrates once but nothing more. Anyone got any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
(I know I should have left it longer to dry btw)
Thanks
Sea Viper
Leave it for a couple of days to dry than plug your phone to charge witout battery for 2 min ,than insert battery and battery cover , u will see orange light,press power button hopefully your fone will boot
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Beer isn't water imho, If that sticky goo dries you will have a small h*ll to clean it. Take it apart and clean with destilled water, be careful with the microphone it doesn't like water like the rest of the components.
Cheers mate, my beer is coming down in my tummy now, not my phone... =)
J.K Nilsson
take out the battery, SIM & SD Card. Keep the battery cover and the SIM/SD card cover off. Out out in a bag of uncooked rice for twenty four hours, should work
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Tho OP says its beer, not water that might have entered the phone. If you dry beer, what can you expect to get?
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J.K Nilsson said:
Tho OP says its beer, not water that might have entered the phone. If you dry beer, what can you expect to get?
J.K Nilsson
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Bread?
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SeaViper said:
Hi there,
My phone got slightly water damaged last night from what I think was beer. It was in my pocket and someone sprayed some beer at me which must have got in it. I didn't realise till this morning by which time I had already had my phone plugged in and charging overnight. I have taken it apart and dried it in the sun. However when I reassemble it, it doesn't switch on. If I hold down the power button for a long time, it vibrates once but nothing more. Anyone got any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks
(I know I should have left it longer to dry btw)
Thanks
Sea Viper
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Try putting phone in some rice. To Soak the water out.
wigankev said:
Try putting phone in some rice. To Soak the water out.
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I said that I my post....
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I said that I my post....
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Didn't read the other posts
Still not working, I've left it out to try some more and it still isn't working. What else can I do?
You need to clean it out or you can give the phone to me. v
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Try cleaning it with 96% alcohol, in german its called spiritus. It doesn`t produce any shortcuts on the board and dry`s a lot faster and is more aggressive against dirt/dryed fluids remained at the bord than detilled water, even the fluid indicators(at least in defy there were some) on the board will stay white, if they aren`t yet red. Get a small bristle brush(I´ve shorted a painting bristle brush with a scissor), dip it in the "spiritus", brush the board with it (not to weak, but be careful, don`t break parts apart from the board, and do NOT brush the lcd or anything related to it, only the board ). Let it dry for a couple of hours and try. If it doesn`t work, try cleaning it at least a second time. My Defy is working after a serious sea-water damage (ewwww salt+contacts=green oxydation everywhere ). Contacts on the board are back to normal now on my defy.
Phone was on the table in the sauna, next to other phones. A couple of times and shot phot video Swimming pool. After a moment he saw the condensate. The phone works on still normal. After a time, he passed out and is no longer included. SD below the door and the sim, stripes red. At the same time, signs of water were found. But dripping on plugs from the back side had.
He passed out?
IN the pool??
Omg is he ok?
Did you call a medic?
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He passed out?
IN the pool??
Omg is he ok?
Did you call a medic?
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Let's just say, the phone died.
Congratulations....
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Fllear said:
Phone was on the table in the sauna, next to other phones. A couple of times and shot phot video Swimming pool. After a moment he saw the condensate. The phone works on still normal. After a time, he passed out and is no longer included. SD below the door and the sim, stripes red. At the same time, signs of water were found. But dripping on plugs from the back side had.
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Hope u get a replacement...
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I think the phone is waterproof, not steamproof.
Did you read the manual? It says you should not use the phone in hot water.
wow?
maybe sony missed waterproofing on your Z?
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Did you read the manual? It says you should not use the phone in hot water.
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It also say foggy camera is normal Irvine go "swimming"
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Dry the phone on the battery and then turned on. :victory::victory:
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Dry the phone on the battery and then turned on. :victory::victory:
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How did you remove the battery can I ask?
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How did you remove the battery can I ask?
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I have about another. Phone was lying on the battery in the room dried.
I think steam is still capable of penetrating the housing rubber seal, since it is in a gas form. The seals are made to prevent water breach, not gas Lessons learned for all of us, no? Never bring the phone to the steamy and hot place..
Hope I can get that phone next week in Indonesia *fingers crossed*
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I have come across another condition that I have dropped the photo to the warm water and at once the phone cannot be launched, but after a week,I can use it normally.I feel very strange because I have do nothing.
IP57 isn't steam proof...
Of course it's going to get wet inside, never mind the condensation.
RTFM.
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I get that steam will be able to get into the phone, but...
That would mean that you also can't take a shower with the phone, unless you only shower with cold water.
And if I do remember, Sony said that you were allowed to shower with your phone:silly:
AW: Condensation in Camera
Of you shower at 80-90°C... then no.
fixing condensation in a phone
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Phone was on the table in the sauna, next to other phones. A couple of times and shot phot video Swimming pool. After a moment he saw the condensate. The phone works on still normal. After a time, he passed out and is no longer included. SD below the door and the sim, stripes red. At the same time, signs of water were found. But dripping on plugs from the back side had.
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I think that the phone died because of temperature which lead to condensation..
Condensation can kill any electronics (not camera lens).
I've tested the phone and yes, i've got some condensation too on the front and back camera after throwing the phone for over 30min into a tank with cold water - this was for testing purposes, the room was warm.
To fix the condensation, turn the phone off, open all the flaps and put Your phone in a box filled with rice. Close the box.
Mine took 4h and the condensation was fully gone...You can also try silica bags - can be found in shoe boxes.
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I think that the phone died because of temperature which lead to condensation..
Condensation can kill any electronics (not camera lens).
I've tested the phone and yes, i've got some condensation too on the front and back camera after throwing the phone for over 30min into a tank with cold water - this was for testing purposes, the room was warm.
To fix the condensation, turn the phone off, open all the flaps and put Your phone in a box filled with rice. Close the box.
Mine took 4h and the condensation was fully gone...You can also try silica bags - can be found in shoe boxes.
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Bag of rice trick never failed me lol
my phone has condensation in camera, but none of the water detecting strips have turned red...
will the camera, etc. perform as it did after it dries out?
I was making a video trying to do a prank on my friend, and it just slipped out of my hands. It was in there for around 5 seconds and was completely soaked. I put it in a bag with rice, but that's pretty much all i know how to do.
Is there any other things I should be doing to make the phone dryer?
Thanks for your time.
Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FKug77YKA
I havent tried to turn it on yet, the sd card works via card reader though, i guess thats good.
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I was making a video trying to do a prank on my friend, and it just slipped out of my hands. It was in there for around 5 seconds and was completely soaked. I put it in a bag with rice, but that's pretty much all i know how to do.
Is there any other things I should be doing to make the phone dryer?
Thanks for your time.
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You may get it done using a hair dryer, using caution though, but it will still have internal water present, best would be to get a ziplock bag, 1/2 full of white rice....place the phone in there for 24-48hrs, it will absorb pretty much all the moisture. time will be the issue...
do not rush it.
Well...just leave it in for a few DAYS and hope for the best...not one day but a FEW...just cause it appears to be dry doesn't mean everything inside is dry yet
Good luck
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Well...just leave it in for a few DAYS and hope for the best...not one day but a FEW...just cause it appears to be dry doesn't mean everything inside is dry yet
Good luck
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and make sure you do not try and turn on to soon, it may damage it further...
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and make sure you do not try and turn on to soon, it may damage it further...
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The best option is to go ahead and diassemble it and clean everything with high grade Isopropal alcohol. Even if it's not 100% alcohol it's better than the water thats in there. Also, tap water has chemicals and minerals in it that will stay behind when the water is gone that will short out all kinds of things on the boards. These need to be rinsed off so that when you do energize it, no harm will be done. No way would I allow it to dry without flushing everything first.
Do the rice trick first. Make sure you wait 48hrs at least before power-on. If that doesnt work you will have to try taking it apart.
I left my s2 hanging on a heater vent for the whole night a year ago when that happened to me. I dropped it in a sugary drink so it was worse , had to wash the charging port with distilled water before hanging it on the vent. Another time I had my phone in my pocket while walked into the ocean on the beach, that phone was a goner for obvious reasons.
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I have done this with two different phones (a Nokia N95 I dropped in a cup of coffee and an Inspire 4G on a pool) and got life from the phones for a couple of years after it happened, basically they keep working until I replaced them.
Remove the battery immediately, go and buy distilled water and submerge the phone to flush the impurities that got into the phone; for the N95 I dropped in coffee I repeated the process about 5 times until the water was clear, the one in the pool just a couple of times.
Rinse it, do not use a hairdryer as the heat can losen some stuff inside, put it on rice for as long as you can (I waited a full week).
Done!, YMMV but this was my solution to flush impurities without disassembling the phone.
I hope it helps, good luck.
i have used 98% alcohol to flush out any water because it doesn't attract any electricity. then i put it in a bag of rice for 1 day and it worked. (so to speak you and still use the phone when submerged under the alcohol. i made a video of it with an older flip phone)
Just get a new one it was in 5he toilet for heaven sakes
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I was making a video trying to do a prank on my friend, and it just slipped out of my hands. It was in there for around 5 seconds and was completely soaked. I put it in a bag with rice, but that's pretty much all i know how to do.
Is there any other things I should be doing to make the phone dryer?
Thanks for your time.
Heres the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92FKug77YKA
I havent tried to turn it on yet, the sd card works via card reader though, i guess thats good.
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Like everybody else is saying take the battery out, and put the phone, and the battery in a bag full of rice. Wait 3-4 days and it should work. A hair dryer alongside that may not be a bad idea, and if u ever get it working, u might want to look into getting a case.
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Just get a new one it was in 5he toilet for heaven sakes
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I agree. Not sure I would want it up against my face again even if its completely cleaned.
You know what's annoying?
It's when your non-technical friend on Facebook asks the public for assistance when they get their phone wet.
And you tell them to leave it in a bag of rice for 48 hours.
So they leave it in for 12 hours and then say everything is fine because it turns on now.
Ummh, hello. The 48 hours is not simply to get your phone to a point where it turns on. It's also to get as much of the remaining moisture out as possible, because EVENTUALLY the rest of the water is going to start corroding the phone internals and cause flakey problems down the road.
Sorry OP, I just found your thread a perfect opportunity to give a mini-rant.
ps. If it were my phone, I'd first do an isophrophy bath.
Place it in the microwave.
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Place it in the microwave.
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I can't tell if you're being serious or not but that is _not_ helpful, and if it isnt obvious do NOT ever do that with anything metal. I know I'm new here but serious replies only please FFS. I know plenty of people that have done this and the rice trick (with alcohol or distilled water flush as recommend previously in the thread if necessary) will work if anything does. Time and patience!
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I can't tell if you're being serious or not but that is _not_ helpful, and if it isnt obvious do NOT ever do that with anything metal. I know I'm new here but serious replies only please FFS. I know plenty of people that have done this and the rice trick (with alcohol or distilled water flush as recommend previously in the thread if necessary) will work if anything does. Time and patience!
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You know plenty of people who have dropped their phones in the toilet? Crazy..
I was joking btw. I never said to turn the microwave on, I just said to place it in the microwave..
You could just take out the battery and make sure it is completely dry. Then you could get a hair dryer and if it has a cool button, you could try that. or a can of air or an air compressor..
It just takes time.. let it sit there for a week and then try it.. If it doesn't work, then maybe you should get one of those lifeproof cases.. would've saved you on this one..
Heh alright fair enough. I read it and said out loud WTF? but yes, my friends are terrible with their phones I dont know why. Good luck with your phone OP, let us know how it works out for you.
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