Pros and Cons, Decisions, decisions - Galaxy Tab 10.1 General

Hi all,
A bit of advice - I'm looking at getting a tablet and have honed in on the Galaxy Tab series,
Now, I'm not tight but I don't want to waste money - is it worthwhile spending the extra for the Tab 2?
A friend of mine has suggested going for the 7" Tab 2 but I'd quite like a 10" screen and he was talking about it being future proof for apps in the future etc etc more so than the original...Do you think I need to worry too much about this?
I'll be using it for a little bit of gaming, general internet usage and for the kids to watch vids on the long drives......
Would it really be worth the extra money to get the 2???
Thanks

Don't get the 2, get the Note 10.1 which is releasing soon... A lot of cool features and faster chip so more future proof.

You'll find lots of people who will complain about the performance of the GT 10.1, but I love mine even though its "only" dual core. It does everything I need it to do (games, internet, movies, streaming content, occasional Word/Excel docs, etc.) and I don't have problems with it. I'm anxiously awaiting ICS, but I've got no real problems with Honeycomb either. The lack of a microSD card slot also turns many people off. But with cloud storage, I don't really care about that. I prefer the thin/light design over card slots and HDMI ports.
I also have a 7" tablet (HTC EVO View), because sometimes I find the 10" tablet is just too big and cumbersome (like on a crowded public bus). I read a lot, especially on the bus, and the 7" form factor works much better. It also works great as a GPS in the car (we don't own a dedicated GPS device).
If you're not sure which size you want, allow me to suggest the GT 8.9. It really hits a sweet spot in terms of size and is a great compromise between screen real estate and portability.
If you get hung up on spec sheets and really want the 10" screen, I'd go for the Galaxy Note 10.1...its basically the "Tab 2" version of the 10" and its got the quad core Exynos processor. But in the real world, I find the original GT 10.1 performs just fine and I'd probably save a few hundred bucks and get that.
As for 7" tablets...just so you know, the 7" Tab 2 isn't really significantly better than the Tab 7.0 (I dont mean the original GT)...in fact, in some areas, its inferior. The 7 Plus is an option...as is the new Nexus 7 (though I think its lacking a few features and I'm not crazy about the design). I personally want a GT 7.7. Its only available in the US through Verizon, though you can order it from overseas (from Negri Electronics, for example).

fnair said:
Don't get the 2, get the Note 10.1 which is releasing soon... A lot of cool features and faster chip so more future proof.
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Thanks,
All things considered, I am looking at saving some money and I'm probably going to be sure that the Note 10.1 is gonna be a bit hefty as they have been tight lipped about the price.
It's something I'll keep in mind, I'm not buying straight away - I always like to do some research!
Frosty

Thanks rjohmit,
That's a real help!
I thought I'd seen some ROMs in the Dev section for an ICS upgrade...?

Frosty615 said:
Thanks rjohmit,
That's a real help!
I thought I'd seen some ROMs in the Dev section for an ICS upgrade...?
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You're welcome.
There are certainly ICS roms...I've just kept mine stock and probably will keep it that way.
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FYI...I'm sure there's plenty of marketing fluff in here but it looks pretty sweet!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/06/samsungs-galaxy-note-10-1-availability/

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7+ vs 8.9 pros and cons

Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with these two excellent machines.
I've had 10.1 tablets in the past including the iPads, but found them too be a bit cumbersome.
What's your guys' take on:
Display quality between the two?
Exynos vs Tegra?
Keeping in mind that the tablets will be used for:
pdf manipulation
music
light video use
web
email
Thanks in advance
petesavva said:
Hey everyone,
I am on the fence with these two excellent machines.
I've had 10.1 tablets in the past including the iPads, but found them too be a bit cumbersome.
What's your guys' take on:
Display quality between the two?
Exynos vs Tegra?
Keeping in mind that the tablets will be used for:
pdf manipulation
music
light video use
web
email
Thanks in advance
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This...has been repeatedly discussed so I'll be brief. Tegra has a weird lag when in landscape (8.9 issue), Exynos does not. Display quality, if you googled the 8.9 and 7 specifications you would notice the 8.9 has more resolution than the 7 model. Today's tablets are very capable and fast for those functions you listed.
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thanks for the reply.
i've been researching the last few days, but after a while it all starts to look the same, that's why i asked....
In terms of raw power, any dual cor eprocessor will handle the BASIC tasks you are looking to do
In terms of Phones Exynos looks faster but i don't know how that compares to tablets
For gaming, Tablet games are more often then not optimized for the Tegra 2 platform, TegraZone games make the most out of the processor and they looks phenominal. I don't know how well Exynos does gaming on a tablet
8.9 has a higher resolution which makes videos much easier. Also the speakers on the 8.9 are really good fo a tablet. I am not picky on audio but i use it when i play Oblivion and it overpowers the tv half the time
I think the larger screen is beneficial for internet browsing. I would definitely try them both out for usability i.e. screen size and weight to see if the $70 price difference is worth going for the larger one. Personally the 8.9's size of a hardback book is perfect.
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thanks for the reply.
i've been researching the last few days, but after a while it all starts to look the same, that's why i asked....
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The 7+ has a MicroSD slot, whereas the 8.9 does not. Besides that, it is the same beast in a different shell size. In the end it is up to you. Consider the screen resolution, portability and the size and possibly the MicroSD slot in your case. For me and my small hands 8.9 is the perfect balance, but for bigger hands, some may prefer the 10.1 for example.
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Thanks for all the replies.
I just came back from BB. Played with both machines and I have to say that the 8.9 fits my bill better.
The 7+ is great too, but it was just too small.
Thanks again!!!
I've had both.. the old 7 and the new 8.9 and I definitely like the little larger screen.. I would say the only physical improvement I could see for the 8.9 would be a little different aspect ratio.. towards the ipad.
I have the original GT7 and I just got the 8.9. While I do like the new GT, I really wish that the 7.7 was out - that sounds like the perfect tablet for my needs...
8.9
8.9 it is! i've been playing with both 7+ and 8.9 and really like the larger one.
I wonder when ICS will come for it....
Thanks for all the replies
I'm trying them both out myself. I guess the 7in. form works for some, what with the new Fire getting the press (this is far superior to that not surprisingly!), but with this resolution it just doesn't fit my needs between a tablet and phone. I kept reading in reviews how much faster than the other tabs it was but really what I'm noticing is the increased heat you feel when its zipping along. The remote software is legitimately cool though, easy to set up, nicely designed and a pleasure to use.
The 8.9 is a definite keeper. Especially with the new Overcome kernel. It's the most beautiful android tablet I've ever used, even more comfortable and light than the iPad. I can't believe how nice the design is, I really hope the 8.9 form factor sticks with Samsung.
One important point though: Tegra 2 absolutely blows at playing HD video unless transcoded properly. This is a huge flaw with most Honeycomb tablets IMO. The 7 Plus eats any video you throw at it since it doesn't have that mediocre processor.
Can I use peel remote software from gtab 7 plus on gtab 8.9?where can I get it?
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No, as 8.9 does not have an IR port.
I've had a 7" inch HTC Flyer myself, I found it too small ( that and the screen sucks as does HTC support, but that's another discussion I guess)
I have the 8.9 now, and I love it (especially for reading, and annotating docs)
I was stuck trying to decide between the two.. I love a 7" form factor.. but I was disappointed with the 1024x600 resolution on the 7".. Loved the pixel density and ability to fit a lot more content on the 8.9".. but the 4210 Exynos SOC inside the 7 plus is night and day clock for clock against the Tegra2.
I ended up with the 7 Plus .. Best Buy has a return policy until mid-Jan (holiday return policy) so if I change my mind or some other Tablet meets my needs better I can always exchange.
The 7 Plus' hardware will provide more future proofing than Tegra2 in the long run. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 hits a home run in all aspects.. An even faster clocked 4210 at 1.4ghz.. The higher resolution 1280x800, and more pixel density due to the 7.7 screen size over a 8.9".. Not to mention the even more battery efficient Super AMOLED+ display. Otherwise, you also get a LIGHTER tablet and BIGGER battery capacity in the 7.7.
I'll definately be upgrading to it when it comes out. For now, the 7+ remains the fastest OUT-OF-THE-BOX Honeycomb tablet in existence.
Even overclocked Tegra2's can barely keep up with a 1.2ghz 4210.
I just wish there was development going on for the 7+. It's nearly non-existent because the 7+ is a stepping stone to bigger and better things (Tegra3 and faster Exynos) ... that said, a lot of people are just holding out for the next generation of tablets.
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any news on the 7.7? i thought samsung was supposed to have a press release on the 7.7 today...
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any news on the 7.7? i thought samsung was supposed to have a press release on the 7.7 today...
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It's out overseas.. but not in the U.S. yet... unfortunately =( I want to get my hands on one.
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europe or asia?
not that it's worth it with the exchange rate nowadays....
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europe or asia?
not that it's worth it with the exchange rate nowadays....
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Europe for sure.. not sure about the rest... There's a lot of English blokes talking about their 7.7 here and there.

Galaxy Tab 7.7 on the way

Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
GaresTaylan said:
Saw this yesterday. Looks like the 7.7 appears to be on the way.
For those of you like me who have recently picked up the 7.0 plus... What are your thoughts on this? I am happy with my 7+ but the 7.7 is what I was originally waiting for.
www.engadget.com/2011/12/16/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-rolls-through-the-fcc-packing-verizon-fri/
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Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
Action B said:
Doesn't the 7.7 run on the tegra 2?
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Pretty sure it's a dual-core 1.4ghz xynos.
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7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
chrisrotolo said:
7.0+ best device in the right now inthe world. 7.7 will top it. Would love to trade my 7.0 plus for it. Maybe soon...
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Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
skeeterpro said:
Like you I was strongly attracted to the 7.7 when I was in the market to buy. At that time, no word when/if we'd get it here. And imports were $600 and up. Bought the Gt 7+ and have not looked back since.
Gotta say yes, the larger screen (not by much ), AMOLED quality (very nice) and slightly faster processor makes a very attractive package.
But....
Our community here is growing (not light speed but still), we have root and CWM (thanks gary9d), more than a few recognized devs are following here and there are a selection of cases/sleeves with more on the way.
Who is to say the aftermarket accessories manufacturers will embrace SO MANY different "flavors" of GTab (7.0, 7.0+, 7.7, 8.9, 10.1 and perhaps an 11.0?) I'm doubtful myself.
Keep thinking...."a bird in hand is worth two in the bush"
Most likely I am staying with my GTab 7+. But YMMV
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I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
Kitten Mittens said:
I don't mean to rain on your parade, but there are quite a few more upgrades on the 7.7 over the 7.0 Plus. Bigger battery (5100mAh vs 4000mAh), thinner, lighter, 64GB option, and as you mentioned better display all around - Super AMOLED Plus, higher resolution at 1280 x 800, and larger at 7.7 inches. The only sacrifice really is that it's ever so slightly taller and wider in dimensions, and probably will cost a bit more. I wouldn't underestimate the number of people holding out for the 7.7, I think the dev community will be strong, and I suspect it will have support for CyanogenMod 9.
Although as with all electronics something better will always be just around the corner, as rumors are swirling of a Galaxy Tab 8.3 in the works (Super AMOLED Plus, quad core 1.5GHz, Ice Cream Sandwich), so if you decide to stick with the 7.0 Plus no one is stopping you from enjoying it to the fullest!
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You're right, thanks! I forgot about the battery.
Quite right that there's always "something better" just around the corner. If one were to wait for the next best thing, one would never get anything I suspect. As long as whatever you gets does what you want, it's all good.
It's can be a crap-shoot on community support. Samsung devices have the reputation for quality hence usually a good following. That said, I believe that people who gravitate to forums like this tend to be more tech-centric than the majority of tab users. I do wonder though as I read several articles (trades and users) praising the 7+ but somewhat negative mentions about the price. I am curious just how high Android tabs will be able to fetch. Granted, it's my belief that even the $499 iPad is over priced by at least $100 but I wonder if the $400 price point might be the "sweet spot" for full-featured tabs regardless of size? I'm not a "gamer" so my power needs are modest.
This is my first Samsung tab and I am impressed. But so many screen size choices? Price and not so much screen size/features, I suspect, will drive many sales. Witness B&N and Amazon. I confess I am sure I'll be comparing at BB the 7.7 and other screens when it hits!
Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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charmartist said:
Isnt the 7.7 going to be starting at $600? The upgrades look good but im not sure if its an extra $200 good.
The 7.0+ is already a damn good tablet.
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Well we still don't know what the official prices are going to be, the sites that are offering pre-orders are pretty much just making up their own prices. I have heard however the official price in Australia will be $579 for the 16GB and $649 for the 32GB, and that's in AUD. Looking at the iPad 2 prices in AUD they are almost identical, and we don't know if these prices are for the WiFi or 3G/4G model, but I would suspect the 7.7 will be between $450-500 for the 16GB WiFi model in the US.
Can't wait to see it and compare it with my 7+. Size is my main concern, 7.7 is quite long and wider. If a device is too big, I cant really bring it out whenever I like. Not So useful and convenient like 7 inch tablet too. I once had a larger tablet and I almost left it everyday at my home, sold it at last. Anyway, 7.7 is worth waiting.
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Hi. Im new to this part of xda. And this is somewhat bothersome news as I just bought my plus today. First tablet in some time that made me think wow. I have an ipad now. Owned the Transformer and Dell Streak 5 and 7. I was going to wait until spring.g to see the new XOOM, ipad3, and TF Prime but decided after seeing this I thought this could last awhile before going down in price.
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I'm keeping my plus...
I don't think the upgrades from the 7.7 are worth it.
It will be really disappointing if we never get any good roms... But I'm mostly happy with root as it is.
Anyone who wants to sell The Galaxy Tab 7.7 can write me an PM! But I want it this year in Germany I would Pay 1000 Euros Cash!!!
I am very attracted to the 7.7 personally. Have an 8.9 that I'm planning on selling very soon. (Tegra 2 just plain sucks compared to Exynos frankly), and though it's a nice form factor, it's not for me. No phone calling ability is a big downer too; I like being able to swap my SIM card between my original Tab and phone depending on the situation.
Have the Note too, but not sure if I will keep it or not. Waiting to see what ICS will be like on it. Could be amazing, or could just be "meh." If it's not that much better, may sell my Note too and just stick to an SGS2/7.7 combo.
Then again, CES is right around the corner, so maybe it may be worth waiting longer still depending on what else may be coming out for 2012!
But oh that 7.7 sure looks nice... Damn, I'm such a consumer whore
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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jollygoon said:
My main reason for buying the 7+ is because it's quite versatile. I don't want to be lugging around a phone, tablet and laptop with me along with their respective accessories and chargers all day so I opted to buy the 7+. This means I can use my ultraportable for serious computing (negating the need to carry the charger), and the tablet for all my communication needs plus some light gaming, reading or browsing.
So it doesn't have the largest battery, or the best resolution, or the latest and greatest processor; but, it's got a large enough screen to comfortably read eBooks, browse the interwebs, and pretty much everything else. It's got decent enough performance (better than decent, actually) to handle all the apps I want + sd card expansion. And most importantly (for me), it doubles as a phone.
I know I look silly when I take calls on it, but I'm okay with that. Like the famous philosopher Jagger once said 'you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need'.
I love the 8.9 and initially wanted to get that, but in the end telephone capabilities and sd card expansion won out over a larger,more gorgeous screen.
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Do you have a non wifi version? I got my 7+ yesterday and cant find a dialer on it
I am pickinmg my 7.7 wifi up tomorrow from **** Smith in Australia - can't wait, been wanting a tablet for ages. I had originally ordered a Transformer Prime until Amazon canceled the order. But this is the tablet I really wanted.
I don't know. I mean, I was planing to get the 7+ near the end of this month. I know that the screen and whatnot is better or the 7.7, but I seriously don't know if I would like the better screen or use the maybe bit more charge from it having a bigger battery to spend $200 more then what I was planing on spending.
I'm afraid that 7.7 might still have the Black stains/blotches on the screen, just like in S II. When viewing on dark room.
So no specific release date or price? If its not much more in price than the 7 plus and coming out fairly soon id like to return mine and wait for the 7.7

Does a 7.7 make sense when a flood of new Tegra3 tablets will be out very soon?

Firstly, I know there is always "something new around the corner"... however i've been in the tech game a long time and as such I generally know how to read the ebbs and tides of generation technology pretty well when making new purchases. For me, if the current generation has been out for a year or so, and a new generation of technology is within a couple months away, then I will usually hold off buying until the new tech arrives. To me, it doesn't make sense buying something tagged as a premium piece of technology, that I know through staying as well-informed as I can be, will be superceded within such a short time.
However, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is posing something of a dilemma in this regard.
In the favour of Tegra3, it is faster in gaming and general usage than the Exynos, to varying degrees based on what you are using it for (ie: while for general usage like 2D and browsing not so much and probably not nooticeable, for 3D-intensive gaming there will be quite a big difference). While the performance increases overall may not be absolutely stellar, for example the Exynos is still a beast and will play high bit-rate 1080p content smoothly, they are still there, and the Tegra3 will likely also usher in a new generation of games and graphical content. It will also come with ICS as standard.
In the favour of the Samsung 7.7 and Exynos, as I said it WILL play high bitrate HD content smoothly, and has the Super AMOLED+ screen, which is 100% unique in the tablet market as opposed to everyone elses mainstream IPS tech. However, it also seems to still have some issues resulting in burn-in and some quality defects which are common to SAMOLED+ technology, but I guess more noticeable in this size range. It also ships with Honeycomb, which is a little disappointing at this stage.
My dilemma is, with the new generation of Tegra 3-based ICS tablets due within the next couple of months, and possibly the new Exynos chipset due shortly after that, does it still make sense to buy the Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.7 at this point? If I had been facing this decision 4 months ago then the answer would have been an unequivolcal and resounding HELL YES, however with the heavy delay this tablet was subjected to it is now facing big competition from very well-specified and featured tablets, due within the next 2 months, that are also in many cases going to fall well under the price range that this tablet has been placed in.
So, do you think that objectively speaking, and without bias, that the Galaxy Tab 7.7 with it's unique (if not unproblematic) Super AMOLED+ screen and first-generation Exynos chipset still represents a worthy purchase at this stage in the game and at the price-point it has been set at?
Thoughts?
The delay certainly makes the decision difficult at this point, I really love the 7.7 but I think if you can wait the ASUS 7inch model for $250 with a Tegra III inside is the better bet (or as you say one of the updated Exynos tabs).
Interestingly the Mali doesn't seem that far adrift of the Tegra III GPU on ICS, at least as far as benchmarks can tell us. On my Note for example I get 44fps in Nenamark 2, and my Prime gets 45. So as far as the Tegra III being superior I don't know how much the difference really is, and whether it'll actually make a lot of difference to the end user for most purposes.
Got mine for £420 from Hong Kong (16GB with 3g) after a similar bout of agonising and I'm extremely happy with it. Even if newer models come out in the next couple of months tests have shown that the quad core chips don't make a huge difference for most apps because they haven't been written to take advantage of them. The 7.7 is gorgeous now. It's plenty fast enough with great build quality, a fantastic screen, good battery life, fits into my jacket pocket and is so light I have to keep checking that it's still there.
If HD gaming is your thing then it might be worth waiting as games will be the first apps to take advantage of the extra speed. I decided to take the plunge now and upgrade in a year when the apps have caught up with the hardware.
Compared to my original galaxy tab this is a whole different ball game.
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Ok welllllll... I just kind of went out and bought one (3G version). Setting it up now, screen looks awesome so far... but will see how things go over the next hour or two.
Welcome to the club
it all boils down to personal preferences, I bought my SGT P1000 before when the release for 7.7 got postponed (thanks Apple!) I was eyeing for the 7.7 back then. but now that it's out, I grab one amidst the negative feedback on the screen, I'm currently enjoying it and the defects is not noticeable under the way I use it. so far so good.
well, those tegra II's or quadcores will be rendered obsolete as well several months after its release. so it's better to settle on a device that will suit your needs. no need to upgrade all the time just to cope up. Remember that honeycomb and ICS are already there, still, most of the apps are only compatible with the old gingerbread.
I have just ordered a 7.7 and also thought about waiting for this year's crop of new tablets. However, the 7.7 has a very fast processor with plenty of storage, an excellent screen, soon to get ICS and does all the things I want very well.
In the short term it is unlikely to be out-performed significantly and when it is, perhaps in a year or two's time then that is the time to upgrade.
Got my first tab and i am loving it! rather than keep waiting, might as well get 1 and play now!
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Welcome to the club
it all boils down to personal preferences, I bought my SGT P1000 before when the release for 7.7 got postponed (thanks Apple!) I was eyeing for the 7.7 back then. but now that it's out, I grab one amidst the negative feedback on the screen, I'm currently enjoying it and the defects is not noticeable under the way I use it. so far so good.
well, those tegra II's or quadcores will be rendered obsolete as well several months after its release. so it's better to settle on a device that will suit your needs. no need to upgrade all the time just to cope up. Remember that honeycomb and ICS are already there, still, most of the apps are only compatible with the old gingerbread.
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Don't forget Android 5.0 Jelly Bean, to be released and compete with Windows 8...
The Samsung galaxy tab 7.7 is the best 7 range tablet period. It has 3g talk/text function so its its not just a tablet. If the functionality is what you want and not just wifi..then 7.7 is best of the best. I am loving the 7.7 !!!
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I was in the same boat - waiting around to see how the market was moving. I ended up buying the 7.7. Great well-built device which currently will take a lot of beating. If only it would play the tegra THD games!
sladeywadey said:
I was in the same boat - waiting around to see how the market was moving. I ended up buying the 7.7. Great well-built device which currently will take a lot of beating. If only it would play the tegra THD games!
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That's what Root and Chainfire 3D are for!
a true merger indeed, I don't have to carry two, or three devices literally, I love my tab, it's like taking my laptop with me everywhere I go, I can call whenever I want and receive SMS as well, that's the main selling point for me to grab Samsung made tablets, next is the 3g browsing (we have a promo in our country wherein Facebook is free on my service provider ). Haven't tried the USB On-the-Go yet, still need to find a blueprint so I can make my own adapter
Camera? not that great in the sea of 8MP+ snappers but not that bad either, serves t's purpose well
Video call via Skype ~ flawless!!
Gaming? Bought and Installed Modern Combat III, Superb!! smooth as silk!
lastly, the SAMOLED+ screen! Love it, I just love it.. !
the only thing I hate about this is that I can't stop using it! lol
I love my 7.7, best tablet on the market in my opinion!
I have rooted and installed Chainfire 3D so gaming is outstanding!!!!!!
Suits all of my needs and with ICS coming soon it will be hard to beat.
My 2 cents worth
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What games are you running that take advantage of Chainfire3D?
xmam123 said:
I love my 7.7, best tablet on the market in my opinion!
I have rooted and installed Chainfire 3D so gaming is outstanding!!!!!!
Suits all of my needs and with ICS coming soon it will be hard to beat.
My 2 cents worth
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Stock for now other than rooted
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NZtechfreak said:
That's what Root and Chainfire 3D are for!
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yeah I have Chainfire3d on mine - still won't run the Zen pinball and other games. I'm interested to hear from other users that are running the tegra games as to which ones in case I'm doing something wrong.
Forget Tegra 3. Did you see the specs on the Snapdragon S4? Now that looks like a game changer.
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what change? any link? i once read that s4 will use adreno 225, which is not that good and only comparable up to exynos' mali (which is the same with tab 7.7)
tegra 3 is still better
unless like the article said it came with adreno 300 that supposedly on par with playstation 3 / xbox
here's a quote on the wrap up
"So, until we see all that, you’d probably want to go with an Exynos 4212 chip or an OMAP 4470 if you care about gaming a lot–or a Qualcomm S4 if you don’t care about maximum gaming performance as much but still want little power consumption and strong single-threaded performance in a smartphone."
the link to the article:
http://www.androidauthority.com/qua...vs-ti-omap-4470-vs-samsung-exynos-4212-26636/
don't know how accurate is this information though

have barely touched my s4 since getting this tablet

What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
Lol I know what you mean I got my note 10.1 right after I got my s3 I love it the s pen, main reason I got the note over the n10
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Have to totally agree as well. Was about to get the Nexus 10 but I am really happy to get the Note 10.1. And the screen size and quality is more than fine for me...
This is the first time i have really used a tablet for my various hobbies. The Spen magic is great as well.
I just wish we get the Android updates for multiuser feature and bluetooth 4 LE support
i can't live without this tablet, take it everywhere i go i love the note series.
yeah, love it so much, and now, i'm running on ReVolt ROM and love it much more ^^
I completely ignored the reviews about the note 10.1, so many complaints about the screen being poor etc, what a load of tosh that is, there's bugger all wrong with it imo. I picked the note 10.1 over the nexus 10 and I don't regret that decision one bit!
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Snagged mine on eBay for £204 about 3 months ago, it's everything I need in a tablet.... I came from the tab 7.7 with the amoled screen which was lovely but still prefer the note 10.1 as more horsepower and bigger screen = happy gingerdude + with my note 2 gives me everything on the go.
To those who say screen is poor, try it for yourself is more than ok.
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What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
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Couldn't agree more... just got my Note 10.1 a few weeks back - had been debating upgrading my original Tab 10.1 for a N10. I'm so happy I didn't - not sure where most of the bad reviews come from: screen is fantastic, the device is super-responsive, feels great in the hand and well-built, expandable memory (running a 64GB card in my 32GB Note = all the space I could ask for) - and for someone that uses his tablet like a notebook, the pen is fantastic to work with... Highly recommended. :victory:
What would make this Tablet permanently on my person, is if it could Seperate into 2, for portability. The 2nd half of the screen could serve as a giant battery, or the 2 halves could have Bluetooth link to each other, so you could do a lot of new things tablets can't do, for (a light-hearted) example , PORTABLE BATTLESHIP GAME SET! XD lol. Just think how creative Samsung could be, once they make those flexible displays commercially available. Also, when Google Glass becomes reasonably priced (I don't think King Midas could even afford it right now), I think some really awesome usage integration between one's glasses, computer, smartphone, and tablet, is inevitably going to be one of the driving catylsts in how commercially available tech will evolve/unfold.
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About the screen: the only reason Samsung didn't make it on Par with competitors, is because they couldn't find any that could work well with the specialized Wacom digitizer (which is what makes the s-pen superior to a magic wand XD), while also being cost effective. It's a tradeoff that anyone who goes this tablet a fair try, wouldn't care less about. Friggin' Apple extremists think the iPad screen makes photos look better than looking at something in person with your own eyes. Lol.
Opposite for me. I got my S4 and now I use my tablet less. It's not because it's a bad tablet, it's just that it's easier to whip out the phone and browse sometimes. I use my tablet for lots of other important things though so it makes up for that..
i sold my gn10.1 a few months back to get the ativ 500t and 700t. there isn't a day that goes by that i don't miss it. i've almost bit the bullet a few times and gotten a refurb for $300 (i've seen the refurb 32 for ~$350). i really wanna wait to see if they come out with a bigger screen, but i really miss my gn10.1. i missed it so bad that i bought a gn8 to fill the gap that will be left after i sell my nook hd+.
it was the greatest tablet i've owned and thought i'd finally found one that i'd keep for more than a year. windows is great since i can play just about any format and have an alternate selection of games (can't say better b/c that's subjective) and i love the bigger screen. i do hate that windows desktop isn't very finger friendly and that modern ui sucks so badly.
maybe i'll cave it and get another. hopefully i can tame the desire and wait a few months to see how much the ativ q will be or how big the new galaxy note tablets will be.
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What a great device. And its a shame that some people maybe put off by the some of the pathetic reviews ive read on this device. Its stunning.
My s4 is faster. Higher res screen etc. But when it comes to browsing video etc theres no substitute for real estate.
Please dont listen to these bad reviews written by apple twats. If your in the market for a 10in tablet. You will love this
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I just got a Galaxy S4 about a week and a half ago. I find myself using both my Note 10.1 and S4 about equally but for different things, for productivity apps, such as the S-pen apps and office apps, the real estate of the 10.1 can't be beat. for speed, fast browsing and social apps I lean toward the S4. One note though, the S4 just came out with an update that lets you move apps to SDcard, which the 10.1 does not have (hopefully it will come in a future update), however this update locks the bootloaders so that the S4 then cannot be rooted (as of yet!).
Same here. Galaxy Note and S4. In many ways they compliment each other. S-notes automatically show up on S-memo (albeit read only) and reverse also. S4 is always there when Note is not practical. Note wins for meetings. S4 wins waiting for the airplane door to close, and riding in the car.
I even got the small point stylus (ikross brand) designed for the S4 and it works nicely.
In geek heaven here .
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Advice on purchasing a new tablet.

I have been reading up on the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition and the TF701T. I really would like some advice on helping to decide which way to go. I will list a few questions I have and concerns I have to see if any of you current users can help lead me to a decision.
Thanks in advance.
I know the primary differences between the 2. What I would like to know is has any one had any issues with rooting or putting roms on this? I have a Galaxy S4 and it really made me shy away from Samsung. I will never buy a phone from them that's for sure. Love the power it has and the screen is decent (a little dark) but getting roms on it is a nightmare. I've had a few different Android devices and loved all of them rooting and replacing the roms have been awesome! I just don't want to get one and find out that I'm going to have the same issues I have with my phone now. I realize that phones are different in the respect to the need to have extra protection requested by the phone companies. Thats why I'm reaching out to you to see what your experiences are.
Needs... I need to be able to use a Gumdrop or Otter box case as I have a 2 and 4 year old that will probably be using it at sometime or another. I also need it to have a decent battery life as I will most likely us it for work and play.
Wants... Speed, reliability, durability, Root, Roms, Games, and expand-ability.
I don't care about the stylus so that's not a reason to get this device. I will want a clean rom without all the Samsung garbage that this send with it.
Hope I can get some help with ideas here as I currently have a TF700T and aside from the ram shortage I love it. But time to give that to the kids and get Dad a new tab.
Again thanks for all the incite and opinions.
DrClaw
Don't get the note 10.1 if you don't need the stylus. You pay quite a bit extra for it and samsungs tab devices are basically the same hardware wise. It's wasted money if you dont use the stylus. You can get great deals on the samsung tab 10.1 depending on your country. A fellow student picked up a new tab ( 3 I believe) for 180€ two weeks ago.
watch this and you should have a decision:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBvyczTGh9A
My opinion, TF701 will beats the Samsung in Gaming, hand down. Everything else Samsung is better like, camera, speed, lighter, bigger screen, stylus a plus etc... Samsung is slightly cost more if you buy both used. I'm not a gamer so I would pick the Samsung.
99% decided.
After listening to many different opinions and watching videos I'm pretty settled on getting the Samsung Galaxy S 10.5. It was suggested I broaden my horizons a bit to include this tab in my research and I'm glad I did. The performance is identical to the 2014 but it has an LED screen giving it a brighter screen darker blacks and a crisper image. It also has a ROM that removes KNOX. This was a major concern for me because of the dislikes I have experienced with my S4 Phone. Gumdrop also makes a case for this and doesn't make one for the TF701T. I love their cases and as long as they are in business I will be purchasing them. Unless the TF701T pulls out some crazy feats in the next few days I will be purchasing the Tab S.
Thanks to all who have offered their opinions and considerations. I really appreciate them all. If anyone has any last note please don't hesitate to add to the pile I will consider more options.
Dr Claw
Claw22000 said:
After listening to many different opinions and watching videos I'm pretty settled on getting the Samsung Galaxy S 10.5. It was suggested I broaden my horizons a bit to include this tab in my research and I'm glad I did. The performance is identical to the 2014 but it has an LED screen giving it a brighter screen darker blacks and a crisper image. It also has a ROM that removes KNOX. This was a major concern for me because of the dislikes I have experienced with my S4 Phone. Gumdrop also makes a case for this and doesn't make one for the TF701T. I love their cases and as long as they are in business I will be purchasing them. Unless the TF701T pulls out some crazy feats in the next few days I will be purchasing the Tab S.
Thanks to all who have offered their opinions and considerations. I really appreciate them all. If anyone has any last note please don't hesitate to add to the pile I will consider more options.
Dr Claw
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I'd grab a tab Pro 10.1, since they are running around for under $300 at the moment. The 8.3" can be had for around $200.
I did look at those but they have a duel core processor and less in specs. I get the price is a big issue but I plan on having this a wile.
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I did look at those but they have a duel core processor and less in specs. I get the price is a big issue but I plan on having this a wile.
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Tab PRO 10.1" has the exact same processor as the Note 2014. Tab PRO 8.4" has a 2.3 quad-core processor.
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Tab PRO 10.1" has the exact same processor as the Note 2014. Tab PRO 8.4" has a 2.3 quad-core processor.
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I will have to revisit them than
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