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Titanium Backup 2.2.1>2.3.3

Hi Guys
I have the rom that you can see in my signature. I'd like to know if, when I'll install the JVH 2.3.3 ROM, I can restore my saved apps with TitaniumBackup without problems.
Thanks

Yes, just remember not to restore system apps. It is also best in my experience not to batch restore but do it one by one, and for most of them just restore the app, not data. Only restore app+data when you really need whatever settings were in the app.
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rschenck said:
Yes, just remember not to restore system apps. It is also best in my experience not to batch restore but do it one by one, and for most of them just restore the app, not data. Only restore app+data when you really need whatever settings were in the app.
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so if i restore app+ data, would I be able to restore the game save files?
like for baseball game..i developed my player to be really good (trained for many hours)
i dont want to lose him

lkh5650, saves are in these programs and will be restored along with them.
I am moving from 2.2.1 to 2.3.3 using Titanium restored all the programs, their data and some system data, as pim (log of calls can not be restored). Everything else I do not advise.

Lar3s said:
lkh5650, saves are in these programs and will be restored along with them.
I am moving from 2.2.1 to 2.3.3 using Titanium restored all the programs, their data and some system data, as pim (log of calls can not be restored). Everything else I do not advise.
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thanks for the reply
does that mean i only need to restore the app?? i dont have to restore app+data?

lkh5650, I always choose "Restore all apps with data", and then remove the check mark in the list of unnecessary items (all red - is a system software, and optionally the green - leaving only pim).

Thanks guys!
However, I backup the 90% of the "user apps" (I exclude big games and so on). Then there is no chance to restore system apps or something like this.
Thank you again!

olivercervera said:
Hi Guys
I have the rom that you can see in my signature. I'd like to know if, when I'll install the JVH 2.3.3 ROM, I can restore my saved apps with TitaniumBackup without problems.
Thanks
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Note that you can't revert SMS/MMS from 2.3.3 to 2.2.1 with TB, the database are incompatibles.
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Contacts/Texts/(+other system data) is okay from 2.2.1 -> 2.3.3
However, if you backup system data from 2.3.3 and restore it to 2.2.1 you will get force closes.
So you can upgrade and keep your data, but can't revert

msolus said:
Contacts/Texts/(+other system data) is okay from 2.2.1 -> 2.3.3
However, if you backup system data from 2.3.3 and restore it to 2.2.1 you will get force closes.
So you can upgrade and keep your data, but can't revert
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Or just save all that to Google or your SIM card and restore as needed.
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my experience
hey guys,
i moved from JPJ 2.2.1 to JVB 2.3.3 with all ease and no probs at all. even restored all my messages and contacts. here's what i did.
1. backup eveything with titanium. all of it.
2. use go sms to backup all your sms's.
3. use contacts to export ur contacts to sd.
4. flash JVB da way u want.
5. once ur on 2.3.3 and running all well. install TB. goto batch option. click restore missing apps. in the menu select apk only. and recheck all apps are user apps only. if there is a system app (in green or red) deselect it.
And voila! all ur apps are back. now u can pick and choose wich ones u want to restore data for. personally i found restoring data for games is no problem.
6. via my files app goto ex-sd card and find out the .vcf file that was created by contacts and click it. itl will restore all ur contacts.
7. reinstall go sms. and restore your messages.
8. create a nandroid as quickly as you can so u can avoid all the inconvenience and simply restore data from nandroid when u change to another gingerbread from this one.
Cheers! and happy flashing

[Q] Backing up app saves/preferences?

I'm updating RoyalGinger 1.6 to 2.0, usually I just wipe and start fresh, but recently I've been playing alot of games and tweaking settings on my phone and would like to back-up my savs/preferences, as well as my alarm clock settings. Is there a way to backup these up so when I flash the newest roms, I don't have to start over? Thank you in advance.

Titanium backup

Titanium is awesome, but I find MyBackup Pro easier to use.

Titanium Backup - keep in mind TB doesn't back itself up so keep an apk on your SD to obtain and install after flash
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+1 for Titanium Backup..
The app has the ability to create a zip file with the app on it. Make one and sign it using zip signer off of the market. This way you can flash the Titanium Backup zip file after flashing your rom making it possible to restore without adding your google account. This way the market doesnt try redownloading all of your apps.

+1 for MyBackup Pro being easier to use. And +1 for keeping a copy on your SDcard, it's kinda pointless when market just redownloads all your apps anyways...

I use Titanium back up pro just because it's stupid EASY to use. Set a automatic back up @ xx:yy time every day. It automatically backs up. When you want to restore menu > batch > restore missing app & data.
stupid easy.
as far as people, who use Titanium backup, wanting to back up applications into a .apk. Super Manager and Absolute System Tools both do this. And both are free.

someone posted also about backing up your apn settings, with some free market app called apn backup or whatever, since some people had trouble remembering what to plug in to the RG2.0 settings there.
im also looking at moving from 1.6 to 2 just like you, but i wish i knew more about this market automatically redownloading all your apps thing. what i did was use mybackup to backup my stock 2.2.1 sms and email settings (plus some apps and data) , and then was able to restore all my sms texts, which was good.
i found that the apps i restored werent then set to update via the market. maybe i should have backed up the market app with data, with mybackuppro to maintain the link between apps and the market?

Useful Tips for using Titanium Backup for newbies

Quick Tip for using Titanium Backup
1. Backup "application widgets". Once you restore your launcher, restore this and reboot so that your widgets will work and you don't have to reconfigure your home screen widgets (which would say "problem loading widgets" otherwise).
2. Backup "accounts" to remember the fact that you have "allowed" access to your google account for various apps (mainly google apps and any app that accesses your google account). This is also required to remember your facebook and skype passwords.
3. Backup "LogProvider" for the call log. A lot of people think call logs are backed up by "contacts storage" but they're not.
4. "contact storage" backups your speed dial
5. "dialer storage" backups your SMS/MMS. After you restore you need to reboot for it to take effect.
6. No need to backup "calendar 1.0". Just calendar 1.1. (this backups the setting not the actual content provided that you sync with google)
7. Most settings in Setting cannot be backed up (ie. Voip account, wifi hotspot ssid, ringtones, volume, etc). Simply re-enter them.
8. After upgrading your rom version or migrating to a different rom, before you restore, for "system" apps, make sure you check each one to see if the version has changed. If so, don't restore or you will probably have force-closes down the road. This is especially true if you move to cyanogen or miui, don't restore system apps at all.
9. Generally you don't need to save system apks unless you plan on uninstalling them to experiment instead of freezing.
10. Don't backup/restore "market" settings or you'll lose market links to your apps. In fact after you restore all your user apps you won't see all of them linked in the market even if titanium backup is set up to remember the links. Just use titanium to clear the market user data, restart market and you're ready to go.
11. Titanium backup does not save your default programs. (ie. DEFAULT browser, dialer, and for different file types).
12. Let TB save the settings to sd card. The next time you install TB you won't need to install the "pro" app. It remembers.
13. TB does not remember what apps are frozen. So after a reinstall, you need to refreeze whatever apps you want to freeze.
Other things good to know:
If you migrate to a new rom, although titanium Pro has an option to attempt to restore system apps to be compatible, try only restore user apps just to avoid force closes.
If you have a fixed set of apps you know you want to freeze, create a filter containing these apps. If you install a new rom, you can freeze all of them all at once without having to go through each.

Can you expand on what you mean in point 1.
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Scenario:
I have, say, go launcher or touch wiz as my launcher, I put widgets on my home screen like weather, google search bar and maybe a music player widget. I can use TB to backup my launcher, which would supposedly backup where these widgets are located on your home screen. However after reinstalling the rom, if I restore my launcher without restoring "application widgets", the place where these widgets are supposed to be will show "problem loading widgets". And you would have to remove these problematic widgets and recreate them.
So when you backup your launcher, backup "application widgets" as well. When you restore, restore both of them. And preferably after restoring, reboot before you go back to your launcher
By the way "application widgets" is an actual backupable item in TB (shown in green)
Is this making any sense?

Thanks and yes you are making perfect sense.
Many times I've had to delete then replace widgets from my launcher after restoring using TB so I'm interested in where in TB to find this option.
I'm probably looking right at it but just can't see it. Can you steer my in the right direction in TB?
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Nice to learn new things, especially the widgets, hate having the "problem loading widget" all the time.
Thanks for highlighting these.

Ok found it.
It's an item in the app list called "application widgets" with the TB icon next to it.
Cool thanks never noticed it before.
Great tip.
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Having a Problem
Ok so I am tring to do an Extract from CWM Backup...
Just Flashed Jugg. 2.0 everything is running great!!!
But TBP is just stuck at Restoring 0% on my first program... I have even followed their help page. cleared the market memory... What am i doing wrong please help...
T-mobile - SGH - T989
ROM: Juggernaut 2.0

Bardouns said:
Ok so I am tring to do an Extract from CWM Backup...
Just Flashed Jugg. 2.0 everything is running great!!!
But TBP is just stuck at Restoring 0% on my first program... I have even followed their help page. cleared the market memory... What am i doing wrong please help...
T-mobile - SGH - T989
ROM: Juggernaut 2.0
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Have you enabled USB debugging and UNKNOWN sources?!

yes on both
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Ok... Don't know WTF... but its working like lightning now... have no idea... didn't do anything except download google text to voice... weird

Been using it for years and didn't figure out the speeddial backup. Good post. A couple thoughts in general as far as backup strategy.... IMO freezing is better than removing system apps because space is not an issue with the sgs2 like it is with some (older) phones. Swap a lot of roms and sooner or later your are going to either on accident or purpose delete something you shouldn't have and then have to restore. Going down the list and freezing them only takes a minute and is readily reversible with the same end result. If you must be rid of them freeze them first and give it a few days for any oddness to show up. Then uninstall.
Agree on restoring system apps. Always a good way to get odd behavior or fc's and the like. Normally there is no need anyways as the new rom has the same system apps in it and most of the settings can be remembered elsewhere. I do back up system apps though in case I want to grab an apk that isn't in the new rom.
Also IMO its a good idea to copy the entire contents of the internal sd over to the pc after doing a nandroid and ti backup. This way if things go to hell you have everything. The process I use is to do a ti backup and then nandroid in recovery. I mount while still in recovery and copy everything over to a folder on the pc. Now I have all my pics, everything. I use the external sd for music and other items that I know will move from rom to rom so that I don't have to hassle with them. Do this and your covered in every way if you have problems with your ti backup or nandroid. Both can happen sometimes. Also if your phone dies, goes missing etc at least you have a backup as recent as your last rom swap which for us is probably not too long ago. lol I keep the most recent two backups and delete the oldest as I make new ones with each new rom. This only takes a few minutes extra during the rom swap and if you need it you will be glad you have it.

Thank you for tips!

Very helpful. Been using TB for a while now but did not know all the details!

thanx for your efforts...
got some useful tips. I thought I know TB, but I didn't.

Nice write-up!
Any advice on what to do when you try to restore an app and it tells you "problem parsing the package"?
Seam to happen more often with apps that did not come from Android Market or Amazon Appstore...

Very good guide and not just for newbie's.
Thank you.​

App Folders i nApp Draw
i cant seem to figure out where the folders in the app draw are actually stored. i tried to do a restore from a previous rom (apps only, widgets ect) but im not sure where to go for app folders, thats if it will even do this for me.

Many Thanks...
...to the OP & others for this thread & the tips in it ;-)
Just rooted yesterday & ran TI backup. Have run it again incorporating the tips in this thread. Very good suggestion to copy the lot over to PC as well.
Also, people should remember to make a copy of their EFS file & keep that somewhere safe off the phone (keep a copy on your external SD card as well).
Everything I've read so far suggests you're royally boned if you trash your EFS, so making a couple of copies & keeping them in various spots (one on the external SD/one on PC) makes sense to me. Hellcat's kTool does a bangup job & is a nice little app to have handy ;-)

Hi everyone. If someone can give me the confirmation about the following:
1. is Titanium backup saving the settings for the backed up app or only the app itself?
2. are social hub, readers hub, game hub, talk, IM, safe to freeze or unistall cos I don't use that?
3. When you freeze the app, is the icon gone or it stays under "menu"?
4. is Email app safe to freeze/uninstall or I need that for using Gmail app?
I'm on stock 2.3.3 + CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KH1-v4.1-CWM4 for now.
thank you and regards.

Thanks - very helpful to have more information.

3. Backup "LogProvider" for the call log. A lot of people think call logs are backed up by "contacts storage" but they're not.
This was really helpful. Thank you.
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Different Backup Methods

I was hoping to learn the differences between certain backup methods. The most common i saw is via recovery (in my case twrp), via titanium backup and another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
First, in terms of "backup coverage" how do they compare to one another? Secondly, which among the three would most put ur phone back the way it was before u wipe or factory reset it
I hope you could input your opinions on this and suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
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A backup through recovery is a called a nandroid. This backs up everything on your phone including your ROM, kernel, apps, settings, etc. This will allow you to restore back to the previous state of your phone after doing a full wipe.
Titanium backup only backs up your apps and app data. This is useful when you want to switch ROMs and restore your apps in the new ROM.
Usually when switching ROMs I first use titanium backup, then I create a nandroid backup, and finally I flash the ROM. If I like the ROM I use titanium to restore the apps that I previously backed up, and if I don't like the ROM I restore my nandroid
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Doing a backup with twrp, cwm or thru adb (nandroid backups) are basically image files of your phone at any given moment in time. If you restore one of these backups your restoring your phone to exactly how it was at that moment in time. Titanium backup and Helium backup just backup cached data at that particular moment in time. Using these apps will only restore the data you specified when you did the backup and nothing else. Say you borked an install of a ROM, Titanium backup would be of no use in getting your phone working again as it only has data and not a system image. You would need the images backed up by twrp to get the phone working again then you could use the titanium backups to restore any newer data saved if say you used an old twrp backup.

whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!

vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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With the pro version u can run a batch backup of all apps.
To do this open the app, press the menu button in the top tight corner, and select Batch.
Then choose Backup all user apps. From there you can select/deselect apps. When you are done choosing the apps that you would like to backup, click on the green check mark in the top right corner to start the backup.

vinz_bangiz said:
whoah! thanks guys! I was supposed to quote you but since both of you really helped me understand it now, this thanks goes to the both of you.
I've hit the thanks button on both you guys.
Thank you very much for explaining this.
One last thing, when using a Titanium backup ( im using the pro version), how do i backup to make sure I cover all that needs to be backed up? There are a lot of options im not sure which to select and what to do. I hope you could enlighten me on this one as well.
Thanks again in advance!
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I stopped using Titanium and switched to Helium a while back and can't really remember how Ti works exactly. I do know you should never restore system apps data just user apps data so I don't even bother backing up systems apps. I think with Ti I would just do an initial backup of all user data and apps and then periodically do a backup of newer user data and apps, or something to that effect in the menu. I do like Helium better as its interface is better, never could figure out how to backup or restore sms, call logs and the dictionary using Ti. Helium is much more straight forward and simpler (not as many options) and it does backups on a set schedule to my box account. I'm sure you can do all that with Ti too it was just not a very clean app.

thanks again for the replies..
@ chromium96
i think it is the same as clicking the box with check icon beside the menu, it brings me to the page the same as where you are leading me to but in just one click. Though im not so sure if it is really the same one.
I did a backup now but made a user app + system data.
kzoodroid mentioned not to backup system. Should I really not backup the system? Im quite confused with the terminologies of TI coz it says backup "user apps". Does this only refer to the apps and not the settings or data in my phone? does the backup "system data" refer to the settings and other data on my phone? if I choose only backup "user apps", would this only backup the apps and nothing else?
@ kzoodroid
could you explain further why I should never backup systems apps?
Lastly, is Helium really better than TI? or it depends on user preference?
Thanks again!

there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom

stremax said:
there are 2 kind of apps stored in your phone, system apps, only accesible with root privilege, and user apps,
system apps are phone, browser,wallpapers, etc, this are the basic apps to make your phone to work
user apps are all the stuff you, the user, install on your phone
the first one can be found, via file managers on /system/app
user app in /data or in sdcard for apps can use this option
the user app back-up, via Tb or others create a back-up of /data and apps you choose to install
restoring a system app via Tb is dangerous cause if you've switched rom the /system/app can be different, so restoring can cause trouble or misbehavior on your phone
/system/app back.up can be used only if you, before deleting a system app, want to have a copy to restore in future, but only if you still on the same rom
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Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?

vinz_bangiz said:
Thanks for the reply! kinda getting an idea what you mean.. if I backup the system also, then i put a new rom and it may be different from my current roms system so it might mess it up. so just backup user app and restore this after installing new rom then it would be ok and back to how it was before i installed a new rom? Do i understand it right?
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right man,
only back-up user apps and data, if you like you can also back-up call log and messages, I usually do this, so when I flash a new rom I usually restore apps +apps data, messages and call log via Tb

vinz_bangiz said:
another via adb command even without root which i saw in one of the threads here in xda.
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I found the ADB backup doesn't work as well as the other methods. I found some apps didn't seem to get backed up, and at least one didn't work after restoring (though this could be because I used Titanium Backup to restore the app from the ADB backup file).

How to restore all your data after flashing new ROM

Hi,
over the past years I have been flashing more than 50 different ROMs on my S2 so I wanted to share with everyone how I restore my favourite config and data every single time.
I will list all the different items that are important for me to restore. If you want to add others that matter for you please do.
I am NOT going to explain how to flash a new ROM. There are dozens of threads about that already.
BEFORE flashing the new ROM here is what I do:
1) Apps:
Backup all user apps + data with Titanium Backup and save them to external SD card.
2) SMS:
Backup all SMS + Call Log to my Gmail Account with any backup/restore SMS app
3) Calendar and Contacts:
My calendar events are always created on my google or exchange account so I just have to sync, same for contacts.
They are auto restored when logging in to Google account on the newly flashed ROM.
4) Launcher:
I prefer Nova Launcher so it's easy to make a backup of my favourite launcher config.
After this is done (~10 mins of work) you can save your new ROM file to SD card and flash it in recovery mode.
When entering the new ROM (fully wiped!) you can restore everything in the following order:
1) Calendar and Contacts will be auto restored once you are logged in to your Gmail account
2) Install Titanium and restore Apps (some apps don't work when restored so you have to fresh install them, most of them work fine)
3) After apps you restore backed up Nova config
4) Restore SMS and Call log (This can be done at any moment)
The whole process (backup, flash and restore) takes about half an hour maximum.
If someone can improve/approve this method please share!
PS: My question to everyone: Is there a way/app to save/restore the android settings between ROMs?

Try making a CWM backup and restore using Nandroid Manager app

Well that will just restore my backed up ROM right?
The above guide is for installing a new ROM after full wipe and recovering your personal data and apps in that new ROM...
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The first step i don`t thing is gonna work if your gonna change from 4.1.2 to 4.2 or 4.3. I guess you have to do some settings in Titanium.

if you dont have important data on the apps you can go to installed app on google play and install them, and if you backed it thru google backup turn on the wifi and it will download them automaticly

quiet imekesm
Backupping apps with TB is kinda useless since Google synchronizes apps from your last installation. Also restoring data could be harmful for your device stability if it runs different android versions. Maybe you should write in OP

I always stay on 4.1.2 because it serves me best so the TB method works perfectly. I also feel like TB does a better job then Google backup
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you can also try go backup pro for apks and data ...and my backup pro for phone setting

Google backup restores app data too?
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Thanks
Thanks for this. Its been really useful for me

But doing these backups, then changing rom there is the risk of creating compatibility problems?

Only compatibility risk is if you're going to another Android version from what you had before (4.1.2 to 4.2.2 for example). Still most of the apps will work fine...
If an app fc's reinstall it from
scratch, still better then the need to reinstall all of them...
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I have found that Titanium Backup works quite well for me. I use the pro versions and haven't had problems restoring apps and even settings after flushing new ROM.
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For a more complete guide on how to use Titanium Backup here us a link that I found quite useful:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/how-to-use-titanium-backup-for-android-complete-guide/
All the best.
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