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Atrix number 4 is being shipped.

Atrix #1 - wifi wouldn't stay on. Return to store.
Atrix #2 - blown speaker. Warranty replaced.
Atrix #3 - display won't come on but I can still unlock and click programs and they open. WiFi is buggy as hell and phone constantly loses wifi and microcell connection.
Atrix #4 - you better work or I go all crazy and beat some moto employees.
Just felt like sharing...
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I get my atrix in 9 hours, hope I don't have any of those problems
So I says to her I says....Get to tha chopper!!!

Sometimes you just have some bad luck. I have had problems with phones other people have loved and never had issues with. That's electronics for you.
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Made2Last said:
Sometimes you just have some bad luck. I have had problems with phones other people have loved and never had issues with. That's electronics for you.
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Maybe I am just too picky, but when I buy something I expect the damned thing to work. I am near ready to just say give me a different phone. I am tired of it not working.
For the record though, I love my Atrix. The only accessory I do not own so far is the lap top dock which I just can't justify the cost yet when I have so many other computers already.
Squeaky wheel gets the grease though I guess.

Did you get each of them from the same location? Did you record the serial numbers by chance.
Some people seem to be having quite a lot of trouble while others are not, so maybe there is a bad batch out there. It would be nice to be able to identify it.

Sounds like my Samsung Galaxy S days.
Ugh, painful.

Man_of_Leisure said:
Did you get each of them from the same location? Did you record the serial numbers by chance.
Some people seem to be having quite a lot of trouble while others are not, so maybe there is a bad batch out there. It would be nice to be able to identify it.
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No, only the current one and the new one are from tge warranty department. I will write the information for the last three as i will have all of the info and will see if there are any correlations.
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I need to call warranty and get my phone changed out, the power button doest work all the time and the wifi ****s out. I'm hoping that this won'tbe a repeat of my Captivate, I went through 6 of them due to random rebooting.
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I am also waiting for my second atrix The first one had network issues
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I just had to call for a replacement today. I have the phantom ghost finger issue where the touch screen will go bezerk. So frustrating!
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Wow, I must be really lucky because mine has been absolutely flawless. The microphone is on the weaker side, but that seems to be a characteristic of this model.
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I am just as lucky as you are. 3 Phones later:
#1: Flawless, fast, perfect, no lag no glitch no hangup. Purchased the day the phone came out. 1 Month and 2 weeks later...I went to check a text message and it never turned on again (tried everything). I miss that perfect phone, it was too perfect it probably killed itself.
#2: They sent me a used/refurbished/barely touched phone...I don't care what you call it. It would glitch and randomly restart a lot, the LED notification would blink when I had no messages, emails, etc. The unlock slider would move and freeze for a few long seconds before unlocking the phone.
#3: I am currently using this phone. It works well enough for me not to send it back for yet ANOTHER used/refurbished/barely touched phone. The camera app likes to not work when I need it the most and my LED light app does the same thing, it likes to disappear or not work. I re-installed these apps but same thing. Its probably just Android. The phone, while fast, does not seem as fast as my 1st phone. It has its hangups and issues but not enough for me to bother. Hopefully not a hardware issue.
And I am 90% positive that if I need a 4th phone, even after the first 3, they still will not just give me a new one.

Who has a non-defective Nexus 7

I'm sort of freaking out of all these issues I see in the forums. I received my nexus 7 last night, and it seemed ok but now I'm reading of all these problems. I'll have to wait until later in the day until I can check.
So while I'm waiting I wonder who has actually gotten a good Nexus 7. If you go by most of these threads you'd think no one.

bhobski said:
I'm sort of freaking out of all these issues I see in the forums. I received my nexus 7 last night, and it seemed ok but now I'm reading of all these problems. I'll have to wait until later in the day until I can check.
So while I'm waiting I wonder who has actually gotten a good Nexus 7. If you go by most of these threads you'd think no one.
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Mine is defective. It doesn't have any screen separation, light bleed, rattling sounds, or lag. I'm gonna have to return it.

I got two good ones.

Mine is perfectly fine. Bought from GP store. 16GB model. No light bleed, no separation, no squeaks or creaks. Only issue is flicker when light set at 0 when reading in bed in the dark. But this occurred on all my other tabs as well so no biggie. Only flickers if wifi is actively doing something.

I ordered two, one on the 5th and the other on the 17th. The one I ordered on the 5th has the lifted screen issue, but the other N7 is perfect. No other issues on the first N7.

No issues here
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Mine is not defective. no screen issues, no creaking, no battery issues, its nice and shiny (for now) and it works. got mine from macmall

Perfect, picked it up 2 days ago, new shipment to Staples.

Got mine from Currys and no defects or issues so far.

Mine is pretty good. im not going to look at any defective threads it might jinx it.

These threads account for like .01% of all the nexus 7's out there. So add another maybe 1% that might have a problem that don't post it on here and that makes 1.01% of thousands of nexi out there with a problem
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No issues at all
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No issues at all
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hic9582 said:
These threads account for like .01% of all the nexus 7's out there. So add another maybe 1% that might have a problem that don't post it on here and that makes 1.01% of thousands of nexi out there with a problem
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I don't think that's accurate. I purchased my N7 from Sam's Club on Friday the 13th and didn't notice the screen lifting until today. Just got back from returning it.
People who are saying "no problem here" need to wait a while and then make absolutely sure that their display is flush on the left side.
As for whether or not this is the minority defect you're claiming it to be, right now I'm only listening to those posters who have discovered the problem and used their replacement tablet for a week. Seeing as the device has only been on sale for a week, these people don't exist yet. They're the only ones who know what to look for, and I'll be waiting to see how this develops before re-ordering.
Sorry for not staying on topic, but it bugs me that someone is dismissing my experience as an anomaly and blatantly making up stats to do it.

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I don't think that's accurate. I purchased my N7 from Sam's Club on Friday the 13th and didn't notice the screen lifting until today. Just got back from returning it.
People who are saying "no problem here" need to wait a while and then make absolutely sure that their display is completely flush on the left side.
As for whether or not this is the minority defect you're claiming it to be, right now I'm only listening to those posters who have discovered the problem and used their replacement tablet for a week. Seeing as the device has only been on sale for a week, these people don't exist yet. They're the only ones who know what to look for, and I'll be waiting to see how this develops before re-ordering.
Sorry for not staying on topic, but it bugs me that someone is dismissing my experience as an anomaly and making up stats to do it.
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$20 says you just didn't notice it until everyone started talking about it haha
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hic9582 said:
$20 says you just didn't notice it until everyone started talking about it haha
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Exactly. :laugh:

hic9582 said:
$20 says you just didn't notice it until everyone started talking about it haha
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True, but that doesn't mean that I saw a ghost because someone told me a story. The screen was in fact lifting ever so slightly on the left side. I was concerned that it might get worse over time, so I returned it. Also, I had a single dead pixel near the top of the screen and part of me was looking for a reason.
I agree that most people who do receive a "defective" unit will never notice it, and would not complain if they did, unless it gets worse.

Whew I feel somewhat better

Mines clean, got it from GameStop
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For those who say their device isnt defective . Can you test your digitizer? See if touching the lower part of your screen cancels out each other or if multiple touches causes some points not to register.
Please report back ... there's a know issue with the digitizer not registering on the first batch of N7's from the play store.
Here's the programs to test with :
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.the511plus.MultiTouchTester&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS50aGU1MTFwbHVzLk11bHRpVG91Y2hUZXN0ZXIiXQ..
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.the511plus.MultiTouchTester

So... is this the flicker problem

Sometimes while watching the screen, every now and then I get a flicker, I only noticed it when I was staring at the screen reading a book, if so I am sad because my OTG cable just arrived and I was having so much fun

Your life is ruined.:thumbdown:
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well... at least it works and theres no other horrible problems so I can still play with it until google send me a new unit :silly:
Reckon I should wait a few months so I guarentee a unit from the new batch, or just do it now?

You know what. As I was reading your post I started to see tons of flickering. Thanks a lot. Lol jk. Better now than later. I'm still in my 15 day window

I'm stuck dealing with Asus.
I'm leaving the country for a 3 week vacay so I can't deal with a 4th exchange from Google Play.

davidcampbell said:
well... at least it works and theres no other horrible problems so I can still play with it until google send me a new unit :silly:
Reckon I should wait a few months so I guarentee a unit from the new batch, or just do it now?
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I think it's worth a shot. My replacement is perfect, much like many of the initial batch / recipients. Risk you take, right?, jumping on that first wave. Seems like things have settle down, think the negative outcry is just more easily heard thAn the positive.
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Definitely going ahead and do an exchange now. Got my replacement unit today and this one doesn't have a flicker problem at all. My last one had really bad flicker.
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Well I only got it last week so that makes it better if I submit that its faulty at this point..

might seem like a stupid question, but where the hell do I go to organize a replacement

I've seen the flicker on mine and called to replace it. I was told to try a factory reset to see if it was hardware or software. I said I'd try tomorrow and call back/set up replacement if it doesn't work. What do guys think? Could it be software?
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Buy now or wait a couple of month?

Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.

Buy it, you'll love it. If not you can always return the device. I have the 32gb for over a month now and never had any problems with it. It runs great out of the box
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https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/nexus/mG4JXaT-SHs[1-25-false]

IMO all the problems are < 1% problems except
GPS - fixed
touchscreen issues - workaround for 70-80% of bad units
random reboots - still ongoing

You're missing out on a great device while you're waiting. There's nothing wrong with either my wifi or my lte N7. I bought the wifi n7 early enough to see what the GPS issue was, but that was completely fixed with a system update. I don't see the multi touch issue or the random reboots. I did have one reboot on one of my tablets, but that was immediately after I plugged in a micro USB reader, so it was pretty obviously the cause. I have a Samsung Note 8 also, and I can tell you both my N7s work far, far more reliably. neither of my N7s have the very annoying random freezes of my Note 8. Buy one, and if you find something wrong with it, return it. Simple enough.
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kisrita said:
You're missing out on a great device while you're waiting. There's nothing wrong with either my wifi or my lte N7. I bought the wifi n7 early enough to see what the GPS issue was, but that was completely fixed with a system update. I don't see the multi touch issue or the random reboots. I did have one reboot on one of my tablets, but that was immediately after I plugged in a micro USB reader, so it was pretty obviously the cause. I have a Samsung Note 8 also, and I can tell you both my N7s work far, far more reliably. neither of my N7s have the very annoying random freezes of my Note 8. Buy one, and if you find something wrong with it, return it. Simple enough.
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This. If these reported problems are common then I'm one of the lucky ones. Not a single problem with mine and it works beautifully. Easily the best buy of any comparable tablet.

I'm curious to see what ROMs and development support the Kindle HDX will have. Hopefully more developers will take full advantage of its better hardware and if so, that would be something I would consider for the same price.

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IMO all the problems are < 1% problems except
GPS - fixed
touchscreen issues - workaround for 70-80% of bad units
random reboots - still ongoing
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Should be noted that sfhub is totally to be credited for the 70-80% fixed units via his workaround. Google/ASUS is still floundering.
Kudos! :beer:
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[*] Random screen freezes for 2-10 seconds.

You can always wait, but you will be missing out on a great tablet. :silly:

How can I answer Yes or No to an either /or question? :silly:

so should I return my one with touch/grounding issues for a new one or just wait for an update?!
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so should I return my one with touch/grounding issues for a new one or just wait for an update?!
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Return, and keep returning until you get a 'good' one...

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I'm curious to see what ROMs and development support the Kindle HDX will have. Hopefully more developers will take full advantage of its better hardware and if so, that would be something I would consider for the same price.
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Kernel source will probably be an issue so no hardware acceleration
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m+a+r+k said:
How can I answer Yes or No to an either /or question? :silly:
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Well, excellent point...I don't know why I didn't notice it until now...
Ah well, if anyone has any doubts, let's put Yes for buying it now and No for waiting.
Anyways, thanks everyone for your input, it's very much appreciated
Most people seem to have good experiences with this device, even though there's the casual hiccup (few reboots and the like). I suppose I could always return the device and wait some more month if there's any mayor issue with it.

Trebuchetino said:
Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.
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I voted yes before I saw you wanted a 16GB version. So, I change to no.
I first got a 16GB with many problems. Later got 32GB and with updates its working fine.
If you cannot return the 16GB it is a big risk (my opinion, obviously biased), but if return allowed you should be safe.

Bob Smith42 said:
I voted yes before I saw you wanted a 16GB version. So, I change to no.
I first got a 16GB with many problems. Later got 32GB and with updates its working fine.
If you cannot return the 16GB it is a big risk (my opinion, obviously biased), but if return allowed you should be safe.
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Interesting...Do other people have less or none issues with their 32GB device? Shouldn't it have the same issues, considering it's almost the same device?

Asus just used several different brands of LCD. The problem started with Google released a patch that fixed the few that had issues and now the majority have issues. Some were fixed and some were broken. Some are hardware related (with deadzones) but most are correctable. There are several patches available already from Sfhub in this forum. It takes a little trial and error to find a good one FOR YOU but it works.
Exchanging them until you find one that works doesn't mean it will work after you update a few Google updates. My 32gb was flawless out of the box until the 2nd update "touchscreen fix" that introduced the bug to most.
Fortunately it is found that it is correctable with a software fix and we're just waiting on Google to give us a good fix that encompasses all screen types.
If you want to pick one up, I'd suggest you should do so, especially if you are comfortable with flashing community fixes. I don't have any issues after the patch was flashed. Its also real easy to do.
So the N7 doesn't really have any big flaws hardware wise, which seems like it is just a buggy touchscreen driver or a combination of one driver not working the best across multiple screens. Google will fix it. I'm sure of it.
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Buy it now!

There seems to be a lot of focus on the touch screen issue for good reason. There is little focus on the RANDOM RESTART/REBOOT ISSUE.
I personally have had no touchscreen issues in my 2 units. I returned the first unit for multiple random restarts/reboots.
My second unit went through 3 on Wednesday in quick succession for some unknown reason but has been stable since then and previously stable for 150 hours (6 ish days). If you are curious, here is the google product forum with posts about random restarts/reboots. To date it is unacknowledged by Google and is extremely frustrating for me not knowing if the device will randomly choose to reboot.
https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!category-topic/nexus/nexus-7/mG4JXaT-SHs%5B926-950-false%5D
The device is now 20 days old and I have 10 left in my "exchange" window with my supplier. Theytypically want to replicate issues prior to exchanging which is an interesting dilemma for a random event. My first device rebooted a lot during youtube videos and I was able to replicate that for them. This current unit has recently shut down prior to google app updates.This is not a reboot exactly as it sounds the shutdown tone and then requires a manual restart to find a google app (gmail once, maps once and dont remember the third) awaiting to be d/l'd or installed.
Don't forget the uncertainty of random reboots!!! Annoying, frustrating, not as functionally impacting as a touch screen that doesn't work but still a significant defect.
H/W; S/W; H/W Marginality (timing most likely or ram issues)??? who knows

Trebuchetino said:
Well, a couple of months have passes, and I have the possibility to buy a Nexus 7 (2013) 16GB for around $200. Still, seeing as there are people reporting no issues and others reporting a lot of them, I'm a bit scared to get a bad one. Now, the offer is only valid for a couple of days and I was wondering if I should buy it now or wait a while longer.
I'd like to know what people who already got the device would do if faced with this situation. Go for it o wait?
I appreciate any input on the matter, thanks in advance.
EDIT: Might as well add a poll option, comments are appreciated though.
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For me I'll wait until LG G Pad 8.3 release maybe next month, will beat N7, but the only downside with LG is UPDATES.

Random Black Screen Flashes

I have owned a Nexus 7 2nd gen for a couple months now and have just started to get random flashes of black (occurs for not even a quarter second) ...
I am wondering what causes this...
I have not damaged the Nexus in any way and bought it brand new..
I have only used CleanRom and PA ROM...
The functionality of the tablet remains great, but the flashes are very annoying ...I have tried clean installing multiple times but the flashes still happen...
Any feedback/solutions would be a big help...
Thanks
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The whole screen?
I've noticed black lines when playing Terraria for hours but its only the background of certains areas. I chalked I up as game glitches.
I haven't seen anything outside of that.
Give us some more details.
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Yes...the whole screen...
This is not a set of lines the entire screen flashes black for a millisecond....
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sevenslugs said:
Yes...the whole screen...
This is not a set of lines the entire screen flashes black for a millisecond....
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I had that happen soon enough for a return to be viable. Do some more Google searching and you'll find people who fixed this as a hardware issue. They had to open the back and fiddle a connection. Didn't sound to hard but I just went to best buy instead.
Happy hunting, sorry I don't have a link.
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Yea I would exchange it before it is too late. Doesn't seem that troublesome but if it got worse, or worst, disconnected entirely, it would bring bad news.

kdo23 said:
I had that happen soon enough for a return to be viable. Do some more Google searching and you'll find people who fixed this as a hardware issue. They had to open the back and fiddle a connection. Didn't sound to hard but I just went to best buy instead.
Happy hunting, sorry I don't have a link.
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Could you please post the link? I am having trouble finding it on Google.
Thanks a lot..
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player911 said:
Yea I would exchange it before it is too late. Doesn't seem that troublesome but if it got worse, or worst, disconnected entirely, it would bring bad news.
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Its very intermittent...some days it won't do it at all and some it does it just a bit ....I bought it off eBay around the time it was first released so I'm not sure how I would go about exchanging it ....
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i am also facing the same problem..the screen flashes for nano second...its very annoying..i read about the problem in other forum it seems to be a hardware problem..i am from india and imported it from us ...so i dont think i can resend the nexus 7 ...any help will be great..

mlovesu said:
i am also facing the same problem..the screen flashes for nano second...its very annoying..i read about the problem in other forum it seems to be a hardware problem..i am from india and imported it from us ...so i dont think i can resend the nexus 7 ...any help will be great..
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What specific piece of hardware is causing this?
I still have this issue from time to time ..
I've notices it happens a lot less if I turn off auto brightness and manually turn brightness above 45-50 percent...
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sevenslugs said:
Its very intermittent...some days it won't do it at all and some it does it just a bit ....I bought it off eBay around the time it was first released so I'm not sure how I would go about exchanging it ....
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Just because you bought it off ebay doesn't mean it doesn't still carry the 1 year manufacturer warranty on the hardware. It would require you to send it in, but worth a shot.
Once you pop the back and start fiddling with hardware, you run the risk of doing enough damage where Asus will void the warranty. I think I would check with Asus first before resorting to hardware modifications.

player911 said:
Just because you bought it off ebay doesn't mean it doesn't still carry the 1 year manufacturer warranty on the hardware. It would require you to send it in, but worth a shot.
Once you pop the back and start fiddling with hardware, you run the risk of doing enough damage where Asus will void the warranty. I think I would check with Asus first before resorting to hardware modifications.
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I should send it in to Asus you say?
What are the requirements to have it repaired/replaced under warranty as I have already rooted it with a custom rom
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