Ideal 4.1 Rom of Nexus S - Nexus S General

To me, I just have these requirements:
1. Stable and long battery life
2. BigMem
3. Hold back to kill
4. Vol wake (Better if can disable it when playing music)
5. Support Voodoo Sound
6. T9 Dialpad (Can show suggestions when enter few no)
7. [Optional] Have notification bar toggle (It can be done by app actually)
Amd that's enough
How about other members' opinion?

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Rene_Lui said:
To me, I just have these requirements:
1. Stable and long battery life
2. BigMem
3. Hold back to kill
4. Vol wake (Better if can disable it when playing music)
5. Support Voodoo Sound
6. T9 Dialpad (Can show suggestions when enter few no)
7. [Optional] Have notification bar toggle (It can be done by app actually)
Amd that's enough
How about other members' opinion?
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Cm10 is looking good to me so far
https://plus.google.com/u/0/111722836277981844223/posts/1YJZCYxTuWV

not many rom to choose nowdays...

I'm still waiting on Pete to bring BB back to the NS for 4.1 so I can pair it back up with thalamus' kernel. That was one of my favorite combos. I never had a single issue with it. It wasn't super feature packed. Stability has always been my number one priority with ROMs/kernels.

i am also still waiting..Pete,krarvind and rascarlo are a little bit busy with the maguro and toro Roms.But i am sure,they dont forget the Nexus S :good:
In Germany we say: gut Ding will Weile haben

cyanogenmod is all im running now. And MAYBE a kang if the dev seems mature and very knowledgeable.
No 15 year olds claiming to be "fast" or made up slogans that drive me away.
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What rom and kernel that runs good on games without overclocking? As of now im on jellybelly. But it is discontinued.
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only cm (jellybro) close on what i need, one problem i found is low memory though i used bigmem kernel

chronophase1 said:
I'm still waiting on Pete to bring BB back to the NS for 4.1 so I can pair it back up with thalamus' kernel. That was one of my favorite combos. I never had a single issue with it. It wasn't super feature packed. Stability has always been my number one priority with ROMs/kernels.
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Where can I download Pete's rom and thalamus' kernel?

Rene_Lui said:
4. Vol wake (Better if can disable it when playing music)
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I don't know about this one. The Nexus S power button already gets pressed in my pocket; the last thing I need is for the volume button to do the same. As an option this isn't bad though. As others said CMX does this well.
Frankly, I am so impressed by Jelly Bean so far (the Cyanogenmod way), I am having a tough time thinking up things I would add, haha.

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Where can I download Pete's rom and thalamus' kernel?
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Pete hasn't released anything JB related for the Nexus S yet(as stated in my post). If you're looking for the ICS stuff, both threads are located in the Nexus S Android Development section.

chronophase1 said:
Pete hasn't released anything JB related for the Nexus S yet(as stated in my post). If you're looking for the ICS stuff, both threads are located in the Nexus S Android Development section.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424627
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17674809
The rom is 1st post + The kernel in 2nd post (2.6.35.14 mod8)
Am I right?
Would you like to describe the advantages of this combination?
Is it have "Vol wake" and "Hold back to kill"
Thx!

yfan said:
I don't know about this one. The Nexus S power button already gets pressed in my pocket; the last thing I need is for the volume button to do the same. As an option this isn't bad though. As others said CMX does this well.
Frankly, I am so impressed by Jelly Bean so far (the Cyanogenmod way), I am having a tough time thinking up things I would add, haha.
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The power button of nexus s is easy to broken (I tried once)
So the best method to avoid it,
is use volume key to replace it in daily life use

Do the CM10 kangs (euroshank) have BigMem mod?

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Cyanogenmod 9 v6.0 vs stock ICS 4.0.4 (basic differences?)

Hi everybody! I have some "newbie" questions about CyanogenMod 9...
1. Is it really faster compared to stock ICS? I haven't overclocked the processor and my main problem with ICS, is that the default launcher has a little stuttering some times and it's not absolutely smooth. In CyanogenMod9, the "Trebuchet" launcher is almost at the same level in terms of "movement flow".
I had Nova launcher previously and I'm thinking of installing it again on CyanogenMod 9...will this be a right move?
2. What else is better than the stock ICS there? Ι already use that marvelous power widget inside the notification bar, but, except some similar workflow tweaks, I can't see anything else...any feature list compared to the stock ICS 4.0.4?
3. Why the torch toggle-in-notification is disabled in settings? (the pre-installed torch seem to work perfectly)
4. Screen brightness gets increased when there is a lot of light around, but It doesn't decrease its brightness when I go in a dark room again...Am I doing something wrong? (I haven't touched those sensor filters etc...)
Can you please help me? I'm not a developer and I'm mostly concerned about a smooth and fast experience.
1. Make a nandroid and try it out yourself.
There is no right move. Do whatever it is you want. Your phone won't explode if you install the "wrong" launcher.
2. Take a look at the popular roms in the dev section and repeat #1. Or look at bedalus's benchmarks if you're really that apprehensive.
3. probably hasn't had the bugs worked out.
4. again, maybe a bug. After you flash a couple of roms I'm sure you'll see that you can get #3 and #4 working.
More doing and less thinking. As I said, you have a nandroid to fall back on.
erikikaz said:
1. Make a nandroid and try it out yourself.
There is no right move. Do whatever it is you want. Your phone won't explode if you install the "wrong" launcher.
2. Take a look at the popular roms in the dev section and repeat #1. Or look at bedalus's benchmarks if you're really that apprehensive.
3. probably hasn't had the bugs worked out.
4. again, maybe a bug. After you flash a couple of roms I'm sure you'll see that you can get #3 and #4 working.
More doing and less thinking. As I said, you have a nandroid to fall back on.
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Thanks for the response!
1. If you read carefully my post (sorry for my bad English), you will understand that I already have tried CM9 v6.0 and that was the reason I wanted to know more, because I don't see any performance improvement over stock ICS 4.0.4 on my Nexus S. Am I wrong? There must be some objective reasons except my judgement.
2. I was talking specifically about CM9 features.
3. I figured that with the torch...it's probably not ready yet. I can't find any post about the brightness though (there are so many options there which I don't fully understand and brightness never works as it should).
4. I don't want to flash other roms...I have already flashed Wildestpixel's roms and I didn't see an obvious performance difference too...
For trebuchet if you check (or unchecked I forget) the join with apps setting it makes the launcher just as smooth as gingerbread
Well, I switched from Bugless Beast today to latest CM9 nightly (15.4, not the KalimochoAz version posted on here).
Haven't tried CM9 for a while and it surprised me, speed wise and stuff integrated in it. I'm a fan of stockish ROM's, that's why I used BB since ICS came out. What made me stay is:
- integration of BLN & Voodoo sound, meaning I don't need to run those 2 apps in BG (saves memory ofcourse, I'm a sucker for optimization)
- BigMem is quite noticeable, also RAM free right after clean flash is about 200MB (vs 140MB on AOKP, which is the ****tiest, meaning when I use the apps I have in BG, there was constant launcher restart - low on RAM)
- seems like internal storage speed is faster, I noticed level loading on Where's my water game is perhaps the same as on GB (was waay slower when ICS came out)
- nice UI optional goodies in the ROM but still without AOKP "lets **** everything in" bloat (battery %, power key camera shutter, custom autobrightness levels, T9 dialer). Wanted those on BB, where they were out of question, since BB is more stockish.
- no weird governors, OC or voltages, just ondemand/cfq as on stock, don't use deep idle
So for me, it's a good sweet spot between stock and custom ROM.*
*Disclaimer:
I've used BB for months & AOKP for 2 weeks, both on SimpleKernel, which is basically stock with added BLN&Voodoo. I don't fiddle around with OC/Governors. Those are my observations and I don't intend to debate "why you didn't use "xxkernal v.9302".
stellar said:
For trebuchet if you check (or unchecked I forget) the join with apps setting it makes the launcher just as smooth as gingerbread
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Thanks!!! That seems to work most of the times!
madd0g said:
Well, I switched from Bugless Beast today to latest CM9 nightly (15.4, not the KalimochoAz version posted on here).
Haven't tried CM9 for a while and it surprised me, speed wise and stuff integrated in it. I'm a fan of stockish ROM's, that's why I used BB since ICS came out. What made me stay is:
- integration of BLN & Voodoo sound, meaning I don't need to run those 2 apps in BG (saves memory ofcourse, I'm a sucker for optimization)
- BigMem is quite noticeable, also RAM free right after clean flash is about 200MB (vs 140MB on AOKP, which is the ****tiest, meaning when I use the apps I have in BG, there was constant launcher restart - low on RAM)
- seems like internal storage speed is faster, I noticed level loading on Where's my water game is perhaps the same as on GB (was waay slower when ICS came out)
- nice UI optional goodies in the ROM but still without AOKP "lets **** everything in" bloat (battery %, power key camera shutter, custom autobrightness levels, T9 dialer). Wanted those on BB, where they were out of question, since BB is more stockish.
- no weird governors, OC or voltages, just ondemand/cfq as on stock, don't use deep idle
So for me, it's a good sweet spot between stock and custom ROM.*
*Disclaimer:
I've used BB for months & AOKP for 2 weeks, both on SimpleKernel, which is basically stock with added BLN&Voodoo. I don't fiddle around with OC/Governors. Those are my observations and I don't intend to debate "why you didn't use "xxkernal v.9302".
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Thanks you very much for your observations! I want superfast stockish roms too, so I guess I will stick to the latest nightly for the moment.
Muvolt said:
Thanks you very much for your observations! I want superfast stockish roms too, so I guess I will stick to the latest nightly for the moment.
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Today, I'm trying out the 1200 OC, works completely stable so far, playing with the phone over half an hour now. 1400 rebooted after couple minutes. Try it out !
About brightness decrease, you need to enable it in extra auto-brightness settings at the bottom.
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madd0g said:
Today, I'm trying out the 1200 OC, works completely stable so far, playing with the phone over half an hour now. 1400 rebooted after couple minutes. Try it out !
About brightness decrease, you need to enable it in extra auto-brightness settings at the bottom.
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Thanks for the tip! Do you know what actually happens when "system update" detects an update? What is it actually after? An official post 4.0.4 update or a CyanogenMod update? Also, what happens in each situation? Can it be updated OTA?
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Thanks for the tip! Do you know what actually happens when "system update" detects an update? What is it actually after? An official post 4.0.4 update or a CyanogenMod update? Also, what happens in each situation? Can it be updated OTA?
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K, back to stock values, because after some time on 1200 sensors stopped working.
Nope, OTA won't work, the update is for CM I think.
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Well I've tried most of the best out there and I think cm9 is far the smoothest rom out there. So stick with it. If you want to enhance ur experience with it then try pics reloaded I just love it.
Now the only thing left is search key mod foe recent apps to be modded with cm9 v6 cuz I tried the latest and it wipes out a lot of my options.
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Have you checked out the ICS ROM Benchmark Chart? Surprisingly, CM9 is ranked way at the bottom.
turmoil4eva said:
Well I've tried most of the best out there and I think cm9 is far the smoothest rom out there. So stick with it. If you want to enhance ur experience with it then try pics reloaded I just love it.
Now the only thing left is search key mod foe recent apps to be modded with cm9 v6 cuz I tried the latest and it wipes out a lot of my options.
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Just made it for recent 15.4 build, should work on v6 I think : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25022665&postcount=216
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Poriotis said:
Have you checked out the ICS ROM Benchmark Chart? Surprisingly, CM9 is ranked way at the bottom.
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Screw benchmarks, usage experience counts and it's not measurable.
Agreed those who actually perform better in bench mark end up being a nuisances. If u want a daily driver stick with cm9 its glitch free.
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I'm using CM9. Last rom I tried was AOKP build 32, but I went back to CM9.

Buying Nexus S 2nd hand, tips and things to look for?

I'm picking up a 1 yr old Nexus S. What are the things I should look for - other than obvious physical damage?
And the model I'll get is i9023 - does that model have any problems wrt custom ROM support etc? Or do all ROMs work for both i9020a/t and i9023?
Former Galaxy S2 owner here, so please let me know your Nexus S-specific tips, and fav ROM+kernel combo (prioritizing good battery life).
Also, any slim extended battery(not the ones with bulky extra rear plate) you recommend?
first of all, look for some scratches.
ROMs work with the 9023, too.
well, test it out.
Every ROM I've tried has given me pretty much the same exact screen on time if I really use the phone heavily( almost 4 hours on a good day). This phone doesn't have phenomenal life compared to other phones I've had, but I can make it through a normal work day. No one ROM fits everybody and you're honestly better off searching and experimenting(the joys of having a Nexus device!).
If you're looking for just a stock ROM with a few tweaks here and there, Bugless Beast may be what you're looking for, or Crossbones IIRC. Customizations, which is what Android is all about, you may be better looking at Cyanogenmod, AOKP, Codename Android(CNA), and a crap ton of others.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1171
As for the phone's problems, eh, I had an issue with my microphone. Not sure what was exactly wrong with it. I think the noise screen was messing something up or it was dirty. I ended up opening my phone and cleaning the piece. That was the only problem with mine(got it secondhand too). These phones also have an issue with their power buttons, so make sure that's good before you commit, although there are fixes on here for that. Make sure the phone is legit and not stolen I guess. lol.
Umm how to check for stolen phones?
Anyway the guy I'm getting it from works at a Samsung office itself, so I guess it is not quite as risky as the usual stranger-in-an-ally thing...
Quite few here, had problems with power button.
sumeshpremraj said:
Umm how to check for stolen phones?
Anyway the guy I'm getting it from works at a Samsung office itself, so I guess it is not quite as risky as the usual stranger-in-an-ally thing...
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I guess if you were to try to activate it, it would let the person at the desk know. I forgot to add, kernels and governors will effect the battery life along with screen brightness(duh). I prefer ondemand over anything else.
Will experiment kernels, governor etc, I was changing ROMs daily until I found a good combo when I had the S2.
What were you saying about the 'desk'? This is an unlocked phone, so I'm not sure if even activation is required (didn't have any on my previous unlocked phones).
Oh, and any specific brand of extended batteries (specifically those with same dimensions as the original) you'd recommend?
See if don´t have any problems of lost IMEI...
Make sure the power button is in good shape, nice and clicky. These things are notorious for power button failures, and let me tell you it sucks
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Will check for power button, saw quite a few threads re the infamous button failure.
How do I check if the phone is stolen, any website to look up IMEI? I'll check if IMEI in settings and on the box matches.
@sumeshpremraj
How much did you get it for? (INR)
whats up with box and all accessories?
Even I am planning to get one used.
abrarabbu said:
@sumeshpremraj
How much did you get it for? (INR)
whats up with box and all accessories?
Even I am planning to get one used.
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13k INR, including box and accessories (no warranty left).
I personally think all custom ROMs are crap and do the same one way another
The only ROMs useful are:
Codename Android
Cyanogenmod
MIUI (http://www.miuiandroid.com) > they have multi language
Pete's Bugless ROM
But I found all ICS ROMs having a certain issue with the Nexus S with my messaging application crashing. That's why I went with MIUI. It was the only ICS based ROM not crashing.
The best kernel is Air Kernel for Nexus S. The rest is significantly slower. With stock ICS you won't notice much difference. But with resource-heavy MIUI it's plain noticeable
It's possible the bug I mentioned is fixed in latest ICS releases. I haven't looked.
djjonastybe said:
I personally think all custom ROMs are crap and do the same one way another
The only ROMs useful are:
Codename Android
Cyanogenmod
MIUI (http://www.miuiandroid.com) > they have multi language
Pete's Bugless ROM
But I found all ICS ROMs having a certain issue with the Nexus S with my messaging application crashing. That's why I went with MIUI. It was the only ICS based ROM not crashing.
The best kernel is Air Kernel for Nexus S. The rest is significantly slower. With stock ICS you won't notice much difference. But with resource-heavy MIUI it's plain noticeable
It's possible the bug I mentioned is fixed in latest ICS releases. I haven't looked.
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Thanks for the detailed reply, I understood as much about custom ROMs in my time on Galaxy S2.
I'll be trying Boot to Gecko first, just for the heck of it, then MIUI, bugless beast, CNA and CM9 in that order.
Thought of trying Matr1x, Trinity etc. but will add Air to the list of kernels.
Got the Nexus S 12 hrs ago, power button is fine so I remapped power off to search key and made volume buttons awake it.
Tried Bugless beast, slimICS, CM9 and settled on the latter. Have to try out Boot to Gecko, Jelly Bean and MIUI v4 when I get time later this weekend.
Still don't have an slim extended battery, but I'm happy with the battery life so far that I'm having second thoughts on buying one.
Glad you like it. Enjoy! Happy flashing! :beer:
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Yep that's the reason why I moved to Nexus S (after getting frustrated about lack of stable ICS ROMs on S2 back in the day)...
Basically reiterating what everyone else has said. I also got my Nexus S 2nd hand and I've had it for about 6 months now (coming from a nexus one) and I love it, other than I miss the trackball (I know I'm strange) for waking and LED purposes. Power button being clicky is a must. Obvious scratch marks, etc.
I've played around with many ROMS in my 6 months with my Nexus S. (Codename, Bugless, AOKP, CM9) After trying CM9 RC1 just recently for about 2-3 weeks, I finally just gave in and came back to AOKP (now build 40) and am loving it right now. AOKP just has really nice style, especially with this mod/theme. (thanks mixtapes)
Kernels: I love Voodoo sound/color, it really makes the phone both look beautiful and sound amazing, especially if you have good headphones/speakers. BLN (Back Light Notification) is a must for me as well in a kernel. I really like matr1x right now, tried air kernel few builds back and it was also nice.
Hope this helps Can't wait for JB.
Cheers.
Make sure the GPS works. I bought a second hand one and the GPS was faulty.

Nexus 4 - CM10.1 Pros Cons

Looking for feedback on CM10.1 vs. sticking with the stock ROM. I've used CM10.1 on my GS3 , but wondering what the advantages are of using it on the N4.
Being that you have used both stock build and cm10 you should be able to judge which works better for you.
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pros: added features, fixes bugs from the stock ROM
cons: none
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The pros are the same as your galaxy. It's the same rom
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Does the Google voice integration work the same (ie when it takes over the phone and messaging functions completely)
Sorry to jump on this, but I'm considering the same largely for battery and some tweaking options.
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emailrob said:
Does the Google voice integration work the same (ie when it takes over the phone and messaging functions completely)
Sorry to jump on this, but I'm considering the same largely for battery and some tweaking options.
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yes it works the same. you can set it to do that if you choose to, if not u can disable it.
The only con is a slightly slower Android upgrade path. Having said that, 2-3 weeks max (for a Nexus device) isn't that long to wait. Beats all the manufacturers.
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The only con is a slightly slower Android upgrade path. Having said that, 2-3 weeks max (for a Nexus device) isn't that long to wait. Beats all the manufacturers.
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Not really. When CM does get updated to the next version of Android, Nexus devices are the first to get it on CM whereas other devices will take longer (and things may not be working day one for other phones whereas Nexus it will be working from day one, just not all the CM goodies will be available right away as it'll take time to port them over)
Alternatively, people may flash non-CM roms and just a AOSP version of the new Android to try out new features etc etc
My biggest consideration is battery , I'm not impressed with my battery hardly making it through a 8 hours of the day.
ksujace said:
My biggest consideration is battery , I'm not impressed with my battery hardly making it through a 8 hours of the day.
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CM10 will most definitely help you out with that. Some people have been getting weird Android OS or Mediaserver troubles that eat away at their battery with stock 4.2.1. How many hours of screen on time are you getting?
ksujace said:
My biggest consideration is battery , I'm not impressed with my battery hardly making it through a 8 hours of the day.
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Kernel plays a bigger role in battery conservation more than a ROM. People always gets mixed between the two.
To fix battery problems,
1) Ensure Google Latitude is off (it's in Google Maps). Disable automatic reporting of location and all the other checks in that menu.
2) Flash a ROM that meets your requirements (there is no BEST ROM).
3) Flash a Kernel that meets your requirements based upon feedback and past experiences (there is no BEST KERNEL).
4) Install BetterBatteryStats @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
5) Use BetterBatteryStats to ensure there are no kernel and partial wakelocks. If there are debug them. Ensure that your phone is indeed deep sleeping (use BetterBatteryStats to look at CPUStates or download CPUSpy from Play Store).
I recommend CM10.1 Jellybro + Franco Kernel, but that's based on my own personal opinions. Look around the dev forums and decide what you like the most
Edit: Oh yeah, how could I forget... go into Google Now and disable the cards you don't need.
zephiK said:
Kernel plays a bigger role in battery conservation more than a ROM. People always gets mixed between the two.
To fix battery problems,
1) Ensure Google Latitude is off (it's in Google Maps). Disable automatic reporting of location and all the other checks in that menu.
2) Flash a ROM that meets your requirements (there is no BEST ROM).
3) Flash a Kernel that meets your requirements based upon feedback and past experiences (there is no BEST KERNEL).
4) Install BetterBatteryStats @ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
5) Use BetterBatteryStats to ensure there are no kernel and partial wakelocks. If there are debug them. Ensure that your phone is indeed deep sleeping (use BetterBatteryStats to look at CPUStates or download CPUSpy from Play Store).
I recommend CM10.1 Jellybro + Franco Kernel, but that's based on my own personal opinions. Look around the dev forums and decide what you like the most
Edit: Oh yeah, how could I forget... go into Google Now and disable the cards you don't need.
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+1 for CM10.1 Jellybro + Franco. I've also used MiNCO ROM which is pretty good, but not a ton of features yet so I'm sticking with CM10.1
Installed CM10.1 , seems there is more real estate (5 icons across vs 4?) ...
anyone else had the problem where you can't create app folders on the home screen?
Hey what is CM10.1 JellyBro?
Is it the nightly CM 10,1?
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Installed CM10.1 , seems there is more real estate (5 icons across vs 4?) ...
anyone else had the problem where you can't create app folders on the home screen?
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I hear that's an issue on the latest nightly. I'm sure they'll address that in the upcoming nightly.
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Hey what is CM10.1 JellyBro?
Is it the nightly CM 10,1?
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It's the same thing as CM10.1 but including cherry picks.
Cherry picks are unmerged features that are currently pending/awaiting approval from CM. They are implemented within Jellybro before official nightlies get them. It is a very stable ROM and uses the same sources as CM. So whatsever in CM10.1 is in Jellybro, just jellybro has extras (very minimal)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2015081 is the thread.
mediumsteak said:
Hey what is CM10.1 JellyBro?
Is it the nightly CM 10,1?
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Check it out ...
JellyBro link
It's basically CM 10.1 with some cherry picks (additions) that either get merged into CM or they are removed because they become obsolete
dmorand said:
I hear that's an issue on the latest nightly. I'm sure they'll address that in the upcoming nightly.
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It's fixed in 12/27.
To elaborate on dmorand,
If cherry picks disappear, it's because they were merged, abandoned or conflict with the current source or other cherry picks.
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not only because they are 'obsolete' (not really obsolete but abandoned)
I heard from my friend that CM isn't as stable as stock but does have the added features. Can anyone confirm about CM's stability as to stock?
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I heard from my friend that CM isn't as stable as stock but does have the added features. Can anyone confirm about CM's stability as to stock?
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that's only the case on devices that weren't made to run aosp android, such as HTC (sense), Samsung (touchwiz), motorolla (motoblur). on nexus devices that natively run stock android, cm works id say 99% perfectly. and usually if there is a "bug" its cosmetic and doesn't affect the functionality of the phone one bit, and once reported by a user it gets fixed pretty fast (within the next few nightlies) :beer:
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** OFFICIAL WHICH IS THE BEST or FAVORITE ROM /KERNEL THREAD **

This is the official "which is the best or favorite ROM/KERNEL for the Nexus 7 Thread"
In lieu of all the threads recently being created, asking the same question "which is the best, fastest, least trouble free" ROM for the device, this thread has been created. This thread also covers Kernels.
Notice, all other threads asking the same question, will be deleted and re-directed here. This is in an effort to keep the number of new threads lower, and to enable better searches for people looking for an answer.
Thread Rules
1. No Flaming and no arguing. Everybody has a favorite.
2. No links to external Sites. The ROMs must be linked at XDA
3. No linking to Non-GPL
4. No Profanity (or acronyms used to cleverly disguise such words)
Keep it clean people.
MD
Thanks for locking my thread and opening this about best ROM for nexus. I will watch this thread and see which is the answer of my question.
STOCK ROM!
Honestly, on my N73G, I am liking stock. I will probably do Parandroid eventually, but the amount of trouble, vs. benefit is too high. (Am not able to make my N7 connect via adb to unlock, etc...but that's not what this thread is for )
Paranoid Android for me.
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For Nexus 7 3G, I must say that Supernexus 2 is quite good. even though the customization options are lacking compared to CM10.1 for example, it's smooth and so much stable!
I tried temasek unofficial CM10.1 for quite some time before using supernexus rom; I think I have been flashing 1x of his roms, latest one on top previous ones. I only update temasek rom every 3 or so version or when there is an interesting changes. Can't afford to download everyday; slow and expensive Internet here. If only it offers delta update through cyandelta or rom manager. It's got all CM10.1 features plus many cherry picks which are epic IMO, like native USB OTG mounting, wifi / bluetooth/USB tethering. Just to name a few.
I am now waiting for supernexus 2 build 3 which should be released today, one day after its been released for S2 and S3. It's based on 4.2.2. Gonna try that for a few days. If there's any major problem, I might try temasek rom again.
I have a question: is it safe to flash just the bootloader in fastboot even though I'm using a custom rom based on 4.2.1? I don't want to return to stock because I heard it will wipe internal sd again. My N7 can't connect to my desktop computer through MTP; tried in windows 7 and Ubuntu 12.04
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The amount of roms out here is simply confusing.. And please don't accuse me of not doing my homework, I've spent hours reading through rom features and trying them out. None of them have the perfect feeling to me. Also, there is no performance comparision as there is with kernels.
What I'm looking for is as clean rom as possible, more impprtantly though, one that is fast(est) for gaming. Yes, I will use a kernel and oc my device, but roms i've tested still have different performance levels with same kernel settings. Rom should also have tablet ui and some fundametal configuration options such as power menu, quick settings customization etc.. Also, it should be stable enough for everyday use. Battery life is not as important, as it can be saved with app usage and undervolting.
I'm sure others have the same things in mindk, so I'll ask for everyone.
Thank you very much in advance.
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STOCK ROM!
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zedwards said:
Honestly, on my N73G, I am liking stock. I will probably do Parandroid eventually, but the amount of trouble, vs. benefit is too high. (Am not able to make my N7 connect via adb to unlock, etc...but that's not what this thread is for )
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I have to agree - stock and unrooted my N7 rocks. Granted, I've only had it a week tomorrow and I'm coming from Hashcode's Kindle Fire rom'ed device - which with most mods is trying to emulate the Nexus 7 - and does a pretty good job too. But my new device got the latest 4.2.2 jelly bean pushed to it a couple of days ago - no fuss/muss - and smooth and awesome it is still.
I'd decided when I activated my new N7 that I'd hold off root and modding it for a week or two to break it in, make sure that I had no warranty claims to make. With one week down all that I've missed about not having root so far is Titanium Backup.
Maybe I'm in the wrong place. Where is the, "Benefits of rooting your Nexus 7?" thread?
Maybe I'm a weirdo here but while stock ROMs are great and fast and whatnot, I'm looking for the most unique ROM! Or maybe I just need a different launcher to spice things up?
But, agreed, there are way too many ROMs that offer minimal differences...
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I think it's smoothroom with franco kernel
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Paranoid Android is by far the best Custom ROM I've tried. Other than ViperX for the HOX etc I think the Paranoid team do such amazing work.
Updated all the time, and never had an issue with PA.
With Faux kernel it "USED" to be amazing all round, but I've noticed recently the battery has been less and less with each update (perhaps Faux isn't keeping up)?
Franco kernel is also brilliant with PA. But yeah, for the Nexus, PA is the way to go !
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The last time I tried PA, my N7 just freezes in the lock screen, quite often. Only thing I can do is reboot. At other time, when lock screen is working, there are lots of lags pretty much everywhere. I still don't understand why people still praised it until now even though in my testing it feels as if I'm holding a bomb ready to explode at any time.
Even people in the nexus community can't escape the "hype" and placebo effect of roms or tweaks or even kernels.
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dadeo1111 said:
I have to agree - stock and unrooted my N7 rocks. Granted, I've only had it a week tomorrow and I'm coming from Hashcode's Kindle Fire rom'ed device - which with most mods is trying to emulate the Nexus 7 - and does a pretty good job too. But my new device got the latest 4.2.2 jelly bean pushed to it a couple of days ago - no fuss/muss - and smooth and awesome it is still.
I'd decided when I activated my new N7 that I'd hold off root and modding it for a week or two to break it in, make sure that I had no warranty claims to make. With one week down all that I've missed about not having root so far is Titanium Backup.
Maybe I'm in the wrong place. Where is the, "Benefits of rooting your Nexus 7?" thread?
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I love stock and stock kernel on my N7 because it gives me the best battery life plus performance. I can run many applications flawlessly. No hiccups or lags. To be fair, i have only tried MiNCO ROM, paranoidandroid, and CM 10.1. I liked the customizations and the tweaks that were implemented to improve it but it just wasn't for me.
I flashed back to stock a few days and I'm going to camp here for a while.
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For me: #1 Paranoid Android, #2 Stock.
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Paranoid android, but cant wait to get back to stock 4.2.2...
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I'm a pretty big fan of dirty root box IMHO. I think it looks really slick and gives pretty good performance and tons of customization. Paired with Franco kernel it also gets great battery life.
PRIME D02 is the fastest ROM I've tried, by far.
It is a clean ROM concentrated on improving performance, it doesn't add a lot of features which also can be added afterwards to your taste (for instance if you want a PIE menu you can add LMT Launcher). But you can select extended desktop (full screen), you can customize the navbar buttons and settings, nav ring, status bar, and quick settings (swipe down from the top right of the status bar).
If you use this rom with its standard kernel, make sure to install Trickster MOD and adjust the setting 'CPUQuit Power Management' to 'RUNNABLE' (swipe to the last tab, and don't forget to press 'V' on top of the screen to activate, and enable 'set on boot'). This is needed to get good battery performance, otherwise 3 cores will run at high speed. You will still get the super fluid performance.
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PRIME D02 is the fastest ROM I've tried, by far.
It is a clean ROM concentrated on improving performance, it doesn't add a lot of features which also can be added afterwards to your taste (for instance if you want a PIE menu you can add LMT Launcher). But you can select extended desktop (full screen), you can customize the navbar buttons and settings, nav ring, status bar, and quick settings (swipe down from the top right of the status bar).
If you use this rom with its standard kernel, make sure to install Trickster MOD and adjust the setting 'CPUQuit Power Management' to 'RUNNABLE' (swipe to the last tab, and don't forget to press 'V' on top of the screen to activate). This is needed to get good battery performance, otherwise 3 cores will run at high speed. You will still get the super fluid performance.
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Isn't anyone using AOKP? I switched from SmoothROM and never looked back. SmoothROM was nice, much better than stock, but the customization and stability with AOKP simply incredible. I'm using a 4.2.2 nightly right now, couldn't wait for the Bluetooth fix and haven't had a problem yet.
aokp.co
Try it out, you don't hate unicorns do you? :cyclops:
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CodefireX,Xylon,Vanilla Root box,and now Dirty Rootbox have been impressive this year. Originally loved Baked but haven't even looked for an update since v.7.
Don't much care for PA.
Got tired of hearing about tablet ui and the (ugh) 'Phablet' ui and now its Pie this and Pie that. There is a launcher for that so keep pie out of the ROMs please...
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Hello guys, I have just bought a Nexus 4 and I'd really apreciate your help as I want to become a more advanced Android user.
I've installed 'PA' as my first 'custom ROM', which many Nexus 4 users recommended me. And I quite like it. Though I don't really see much use of Hybrid properties! I mean I quite like the ROM/UI as it is by default. The other feature being 'Pie controls' which I really don't find handy enough and don't you think it slows down the reaction time I mean it's gesture based! (long clicking then gesturing the finger towards desired key takes more time ). The one feature I liked the most is 'Halo'. It's sheer beauty of Android UI and multitasking.
I've installed Franco's kernel. My previous android phone had locked bootloader so I'm not really familiar with the kernel thing. Still I am quite surprised that it doesn't have much governors and I/O schedulers which I was familiar with because of XDA.
I've flashed the animation mod. Though PA comes with Awsome Beats I flashed NexusLouder soundmod but I don't really see any difference. (Please tell me what I'm doing wrong)
So can you guys tell me your fav Custom ROM + Custom Kernel formation with your average screen on time?
Any specific mods I should try out?
Any Nexus related tips and tricks?
Should I underclock and/or undervolt?
Any not so popular but very interesting apps?
Thank You in advance!
ajinkya4793 said:
Hello guys, I have just bought a Nexus 4 and I'd really apreciate your help as I want to become a more advanced Android user.
I've installed 'PA' as my first 'custom ROM', which many Nexus 4 users recommended me. And I quite like it. Though I don't really see much use of Hybrid properties! I mean I quite like the ROM/UI as it is by default. The other feature being 'Pie controls' which I really don't find handy enough and don't you think it slows down the reaction time I mean it's gesture based! (long clicking then gesturing the finger towards desired key takes more time ). The one feature I liked the most is 'Halo'. It's sheer beauty of Android UI and multitasking.
I've installed Franco's kernel. My previous android phone had locked bootloader so I'm not really familiar with the kernel thing. Still I am quite surprised that it doesn't have much governors and I/O schedulers which I was familiar with because of XDA.
I've flashed the animation mod. Though PA comes with Awsome Beats I flashed NexusLouder soundmod but I don't really see any difference. (Please tell me what I'm doing wrong)
So can you guys tell me your fav Custom ROM + Custom Kernel formation with your average screen on time?
Any specific mods I should try out?
Any Nexus related tips and tricks?
Should I underclock and/or undervolt?
Any not so popular but very interesting apps?
Thank You in advance!
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Illusion it really fast and its the best ROM to me hands down. I can get 4-5 hours screen time with matrix kernel
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Hey congratulations for your nexus haha
There's already a "which rom is everyone using" thread under "nexus 4 general"
There are not many "tips" you will figure out the most by yourself and there is even a pretty good FAQ on the paranoid android g+ page, they link to their page in their thread
I prefer faux kernel never had any problems but that's a matter of taste if you know what underclocking over clocking and undervolting is you will figure out yourself what you need as a daily driver and what isn't for you.
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If you don't want or need Hybrid mode then I would also look into CyanogenMod. For me it's just the right amount of customizations and a large Dev community creating kernels and other mods for it.
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I would love if you guys suggest me mods, I'd love to experiment!
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For someone who has never owned a Nexus device, I say this. Give it some time to soak in. Enjoy the 100% stock experience on amazing hardware.
Personally I find it strange that android users simply default to installing a custom ROM on a brand new device. Stock has come a long way. Give it a go before taking the leap into your capable device
(Maybe it's just me though)
Cm10.1 stable Franco kernel 4-5 hours SOT
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I would advice you to try SentinelRom with its stock kernel. I heard it provides most longlife battery.
Then try to use it with Semaphore kernel
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For someone who has never owned a Nexus device, I say this. Give it some time to soak in. Enjoy the 100% stock experience on amazing hardware.
Personally I find it strange that android users simply default to installing a custom ROM on a brand new device. Stock has come a long way. Give it a go before taking the leap into your capable device
(Maybe it's just me though)
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Yeah I understand what you're saying and agree with you. I used stock for almost 2 weeks, but I was very used to with quick settings panel that I had to switch to other ROM, on the top of that I found Halo very amusing so made the switch with no regrets!
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I would advice you to try SentinelRom with its stock kernel. I heard it provides most longlife battery.
Then try to use it with Semaphore kernel
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Never heard of the ROM and kernel you mentioned. Well no surprise there as I am new to Nexus 4! Thanks I will surely try those.
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ajinkya4793 said:
Yeah I understand what you're saying and agree with you. I used stock for almost 2 weeks, but I was very used to with quick settings panel that I had to switch to other ROM, on the top of that I found Halo very amusing so made the switch with no regrets!
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Ah then I apologize. I've seen quite a few people who just ignore stock out of the box and go straight to flashing a custom ROM.
I prefer AOKP (official) because, toggle setup and navbar height; Faux kernel for some mild undervolting, sound enhancements, and color adjustments. I keep everything else as close to stock as possible.
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Never heard of the ROM and kernel you mentioned. Well no surprise there as I am new to Nexus 4! Thanks I will surely try those.
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I prefer AOKP (official) because, toggle setup and navbar height; Faux kernel for some mild undervolting, sound enhancements, and color adjustments. I keep everything else as close to stock as possible.
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Well I have used Franco's kernel and I liked the way it changed my screen quality and I used to get 5 hours of screen on time which was sufficient. Haven't tried Faux's kernel yet but I have been told that Faux and Franco share some kind of rivalry. How is Faux's kernel different from Franco's? Is there any other kernel which takes good things from both the kernels?
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Can you guys tell me which stable ROM has the best customizations? I tried Carbon and it was pretty good, but there are some bugs. Can you guys suggest me some other ROM, should be stable and rich in features. i have heard good things about Xylon ROM!
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Well I have used Franco's kernel and I liked the way it changed my screen quality and I used to get 5 hours of screen on time which was sufficient. Haven't tried Faux's kernel yet but I have been told that Faux and Franco share some kind of rivalry. How is Faux's kernel different from Franco's? Is there any other kernel which takes good things from both the kernels?
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There is sort of a rivalry and Franco kernel is great but I personally have had better luck with Faux, that and it runs smooth on all my devices.
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I like the Faux/AK hybrid kernel. It has a good combination of performance and battery. As for Mods, check the themes & apps section. There are mods to change your halo, lockscreen lock, softkeys.

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