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So I just got my Fascinate last week. I'm new to Android and I'm trying to get a grasp on what the popular/necessary apps, widgets, roots, launchers, etc. are...... So here is the question- What did you do straight away when you got your phone? And what do you wish you had done straight away?
Root, install de bloated rom of choice, install voodoo, profit
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Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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BBennett said:
Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
First, before you do ANYTHING, read about what you're doing, what the repercussions are, and DON'T do anything to the OS of your phone if you don't know what you're doing. That being said, there's more than enough people around here willing to help if you ask educated questions, and use the search function, as a lot of questions have already been answered. The above thread is excellent reading as to how to get started.
IMHO, Root, install a clean (de-bloated) ROM of your choice (many of which can be found in the Fascinate-->android development sub forum), and then if you want install a custom kernel, voodoo enabled or not, overclocked or not. Just read a bit, it'll all become clear very soon...
Welcome to a Fascinating world.....ugh that was a terrible pun.
iceman1183 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798064
First, before you do ANYTHING, read about what you're doing, what the repercussions are, and DON'T do anything to the OS of your phone if you don't know what you're doing. That being said, there's more than enough people around here willing to help if you ask educated questions, and use the search function, as a lot of questions have already been answered. The above thread is excellent reading as to how to get started.
IMHO, Root, install a clean (de-bloated) ROM of your choice (many of which can be found in the Fascinate-->android development sub forum), and then if you want install a custom kernel, voodoo enabled or not, overclocked or not. Just read a bit, it'll all become clear very soon...
Welcome to a Fascinating world.....ugh that was a terrible pun.
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A voice of reason in a sea of insanity.
BBennett said:
Where does one find these debloated roms?
Also I'm coming from a samsung omnia, my mind struggles to grasp how anyone considers this phone bogged down. So what is the purpose of rooting?
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I came from an Omnia too. Reading these threads makes me wonder how many of the guys complaining about the bloat/lag had ever seen any WinMo phones...
In terms of removing bloat, a really easy way to hide it is simply use LauncherPro from the market. Aside from being crazy customizable, you can hide apps you don't want to see from showing up in your app drawer. Not exactly removing, but as mentioned baby steps can save you from that sinking feeling most of us have had...
Either way this phone kills the Omnia dead!
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TheBadBen said:
I came from an Omnia too. Reading these threads makes me wonder how many of the guys complaining about the bloat/lag had ever seen any WinMo phones...
In terms of removing bloat, a really easy way to hide it is simply use LauncherPro from the market. Aside from being crazy customizable, you can hide apps you don't want to see from showing up in your app drawer. Not exactly removing, but as mentioned baby steps can save you from that sinking feeling most of us have had...
Either way this phone kills the Omnia dead!
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Amen!!
I still pine for ListPro and Pocket Informant, tho.
lots of good information here. The only thing I would add is that you should probably steer clear of Voodoo for the time being. Yes, it does really speed things up however do to the fact that it changes the filesystem type of your /data partition it no longer allows you to perform full backups (Nandroid) of your phone unless you disable the Voodoo lag fix which has rendered several phones (including mine) unable to fully boot without restoring to stock.
Voodoo will NOT brick your phone but anyone considering using Voodoo should be prepared to lose all their data and know how to flash back to stock. If you are not willing / able to accept that risk I highly recommend avoiding Voodoo - at least for now.
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Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
taqulic said:
4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
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Or you can use Nexus 7 toolkit to download and flash back to stock with one step
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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jt.one said:
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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Huh? Lol I got the program but your directions are scary lol im a noob lol go easy on me but the line with? Marks leaves a lot to the imagination
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I downloaded the wug toolkit but how do you install it? It only gives me options to open as picture, audio, text an so on with es file explorer.
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LoL ha ha ha ha dude I am tripping over this cuz I to have a total stock N7 and I waited for the update OTA and then downloaded it and I absolutely have NO PROBLEMS with 4.2 so I guess my question is how did he download it was it from GOOGLE OTA or from someone who posted a zip just curious GOD BLESS YOU GUYS
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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I'm curious if you are stock and didn't lose tablet mode or anything like that what you find so horrible about about 4.2?
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I have to agree this update should not have been released, I'm stock on the nexus 7 and its so buggy! It keeps stuttering, taken ages to load webpages , all that project butter has gone, not happy, funny enough it's perfect on my galaxy nexus which is running 4.2 stock rooted, BTW I got the update ota
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To add to this, I've just tried to set up a second user and the setup crashed once , gave me a blank screen for 10 seconds every time I pressed next, then the launcher crashed twice , gave me a blank screen for over a minute, stuttering when swiping side to side, even now as I type this its not registering a click then I click again and I get two letters ..... And pinch zoom is jerky! Wtf happened?!?! Hope there's a fix on the way, this is the one device I'm reluctant to root and install custom ROM simply because 4.1 was perfect
Guys just download nexus 7 toolkit and flash 4.1 image... Sorry, but even me (girl) was able to do this succesfully.
Lmfao ok ok you guys win haha but i am stock and it was official update. Im good on pcs but this is my first tablet, android is new to me anyway im on pain pills for broken leg from a motorcycle accident so my head is definitely not all there lately but ya lets hear the jokes about that now. And no that pervert in my pic is not me, although it fits my brain power lately lol
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Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
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Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
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The dev for stickymount says it may not be solvable, Multi-user by default is a nightmare.
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Yeah i noticed after updating that some of my apps that reinstalled after the update would crash when i tried opening them for the 1st time. i unistalled then reinstalled them and they worked fine after that. i too am not really liking the update hopefully i can find a way to revert back to 4.1.2 easily or theres some work arounds (especially for stick mount as mentioned earlier)
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
turdbogls said:
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
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Completely agree. They new update 4.2 corrected a lot of bugs. The power management is a lot better and the memory management too. Ive run some test and saw that the system load is quite inferior to what it was before due to a more clean management process
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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TokenAntiAppleRant said:
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
First I wanna ask anyone who says the 4.2 update is terrible if they even tried a full data wipe/factory reset? If not, try that before accusing Google of releasing buggy firmware. It could be your stinkin data/apps fault
Pandemonium2k4 said:
Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
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Most to all the people were decent. Plenty of people pointed you in the right direction, or linked to a guide. You gotta do a little researching and educate yourself a little so you understand the whole process.
Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Nope, it's not illegal to root.. it will supposedly be illegal to unlock a phone (for another network) without the network's consent though.
Just think..there's no reason at all running custom firmware/roms/rooting can be illegal on a nexus device, why do you think the bootloader is effortlessly unlockable?
And if you think about it, no, it's not really crazy that is a "hassle" to revert to old firmware, because
A) most devices (Apple comes to mind) you can't do this, unless certain conditions apply (if you backed up SHSH blobs, etc etc)
B) if you understood the process of flashing the stock rom, and if you had ADB/fastboot setup correctly, it's simple as pie to flash the old firmware. And the "homemade software" is just an interface for n00bs (like yourself) and would not exist if it didn't use adb and fastboot behind the hood. And if you think it was hard to do what you did, you should try to do it on a device with a locked bootloader: (droid x2 comes to mind) it's a nightmare
So basically, Google has this wonderful OS and provides devs and users alike these wonderful tools (and Nexus hardware to match) at our disposable.
Idk about you, but I say kudos Google!
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The Nexus 4 is my first Nexus device, and people are saying to root and unlock bootloaders and all that.
Why should you root a nexus device? I'm not planning on putting any custom Roms because the stock ROM already pleases me enough.
If you rooted your device, why did you do it? I don't know if I should take the plunge, because I'm perfectly happy ATM with it not rooted.
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If you're happy without root and you don't know what root does, then don't root. It's for people wanting more out of their phone than is possible with stock
jacklebott said:
If you're happy without root and you don't know what root does, then don't root. It's for people wanting more out of their phone than is possible with stock
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The thing is I know what root is and does, but does it make sense with a pure Google nexus phone? I just need the pros. Don't get me wrong, I want to make the jump but idk why I should
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I would do it to be able to use the programs that require super user. Titanium Backup for example, if I want to restore my games.
Don't do if you are not sure what are you going to do with that.
EDIT: "idk why I should", maybe then it's not completely true "The thing is I know what root is and does". In my case I would first get very well informed (I don't want to break my phone), and then proceed. Just in case that someday I need an app with superuser permissions. And unlocking the bootloader first of all, I don't want to lose everything the day I decide to do it.
PD: I must wait 5 minutes, maybe my edit looks odd by then
I've always at minimum unlocked the bootloader, even if I don't plan on taking it much further. Reason being is the forced wipe when/if you do decide to later.
Phil
If I unlock and root it. Will it be easy to restore, so I have warranty and can send it back to Google?
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timvdlinde said:
If I unlock and root it. Will it be easy to restore, so I have warranty and can send it back to Google?
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Yep, just lock it the same way you unlocked it "fastboot oem lock" after flashing stock 4.2 from https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam
Dude, no offense but how may threads are you gonna start basically asking the same question? Everything you're asking is in the stickies in each of these sections. Read the stickies first, completely.
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If we are talking just plain rooting... I mainly do that to install adfree android, as well as allowing tasker access to higher level settings, and allowing me to access protected files (I recently replaced my default browser with one that I made some modifications in the code). I also use of titanium backup, but lately I haven't had need for it.... but its nice to have
Pro:
AD BLOCK - This is the most important reason for me, and the reason I use to convince friends who just don't know computers stuff, let alone android.
Back Up - The ability to completely back up the phone is just golden. I think I don't have to explain why backing up is important, or why you might want to back up your contacts, text message, saved games, etc. all at the same time instead of doing each of them individually.
Yes, there is a cloud. But do you totally trust the sync service and cloud's server?
Cons:
Rooting voids warranties - But you can unroot and relock the bootloader later.
Not getting OTA - You can always sideload it. All it takes is a few command line on the computer and a few touch on your device.
Edit: I was wrong about the not getting OTA part. But, still, you can always sideload OTA if you can't get OTA.
Needless to say, I root every single of my Android phone a few hours after I get them.
KyraOfFire said:
Pro:
AD BLOCK - This is the most important reason for me, and the reason I use to convince friends who just don't know computers stuff, let alone android.
Back Up - The ability to completely back up the phone is just golden. I think I don't have to explain why backing up is important, or why you might want to back up your contacts, text message, saved games, etc. all at the same time instead of doing each of them individually.
Yes, there is a cloud. But do you totally trust the sync service and cloud's server?
Cons:
Rooting voids warranties - But you can unroot and relock the bootloader later.
Not getting OTA - You can always sideload it. All it takes is a few command line on the computer and a few touch on your device.
Needless to say, I root every single of my Android phone a few hours after I get them.
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So if i root i won't be able to get the ota update, wow thats pretty lame, I know there is an app to keep the root.
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Cons:
Not getting OTA - You can always sideload it. All it takes is a few command line on the computer and a few touch on your device.
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Wrong. My phone is rooted ( running stock rom ) and I received OTA update.
You only don't get OTA with root if you modify/delete certain system files (such as apps)
Just rooted
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Not an N7 owner yet - it's on my xMas list. Santa's gotta come through for me.
As a GNex owner, rooting my phone was a no-brainer. I got sick of VZW's bloatware and VZW is miserably slow on pushing out updates. I am not a crack-flasher - I am happy to stay with a specific ROM/kernel that works.
I was wondering if most N7 owners had the same sentiment as most of us GNex'ers - stock is just not acceptable - gotta root.
Or, is stock somehow more acceptable on the N7?
The Stock Rom on the N7 is good but I rooted mine because i use some apps that need root and i use a custom kernel. I think it's not necessary but if you don't use Google+ Currents and so on, you can save some space by deleting them with root. But why don't you wait for yours and see if you like it or not ? Rooting is very easy so there should be no problem in doing it
Root, allows you to use OTG to store huge apps on Flash drive instead of eating so pace and backup with titanium backup!
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I stayed stock. It's perfect for my use, and it replaces my laptop, so: no data loss allowed, no sod's, and no screwed flashing which requires a full wipe... I don't want to do the same as on my gnex ^^ at least one device that runs normal ^^
Like I said, stock is very nice, even though 4.2 made it a bit different. ( others report, got mine for a few days)
Battery life is nice, performance is awesome (sometimes I just open and close the drawer, open apps and close them, just to see how beautiful the transitions are ) and I have nothing to nag on... I recommend you to try stock for a few days and decide yourself if you need root, or a custom kernel etc. ^^
And if you say you want to root for like 50%, then I would unlock the bootloader before setting everything up
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I've rooted every single Android phone that I've owned. With that said, I have felt no need to root my Nexus7 and I've had it since July. OTG can be used as read-only with an app, no root required.
I'm running the stock android but it's rooted of course. The stock android nets me around 14-20 hours on a full charge. That using chrome to search the net and playing YouTube videos.
Plan on staying with the stock android with root access.
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I've rooted every single Android phone that I've owned. With that said, I have felt no need to root my Nexus7 and I've had it since July. OTG can be used as read-only with an app, no root required.
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Requires root to use bind directory to play games straight from flash drives.
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Thanks for the feedback so far. I figured that the stock/root decision is a personal one that a person makes after they try out the N7, but still it's interesting to see what decisions you folks make, and why.
I'm in a similar situation as I'll be getting mine in a few days.
All I plan on doing is rooting right away, just so I can get rid of some of the bloatware, and then I've always got the option to chuck on a custom ROM/kernel if I don't like the stock feeling of it.
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Thanks again for the input!
I've rooted but am otherwise on stock. I had game progress and stiff that I wanted to port over. I don't plan on flashing a custom ROM. I really like the stock JB, so for now I'm perfectly happy running rooted stock.
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schism70 said:
I've rooted every single Android phone that I've owned. With that said, I have felt no need to root my Nexus7 and I've had it since July. OTG can be used as read-only with an app, no root required.
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Same here. I don't see the point.
I know some people will wonder why I'm asking but this would be the first time I'm thinking of rooting and I wouldn't mind getting an idea of what it allows me to do with the phone. Thanks!
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This is the development thread ask it in q & a thread.
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Pros:
"Free" Wifi Tethering (Allows you to use phone as a Hotspot for internet)
Delete Carrier Bloatware
Eliminate Banner Ads
Backup Everything on Your Phone
Make Your Phone Run Faster (By overclocking CPU etc)
Increase Your Battery Life (By installing custom and/or underclocking CPU)
Run Any App You Like
Move/Run Apps for SD-Card (with apps like Foldermount)
Cons:
Voids Your Warranty
Overclocking Can Cause Damage
Some apps wont work with root (EG: Banking apps, Sky Go etc)
Easy to Brick your Phone (If not done correctly)
Will Make Your Phone Less Stable (If not done correctly)
Rooting Could Become Illegal
May Prevent You from Getting Updates
There all loads more reason but these are the main ones.
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
crimptool said:
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
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+1
Zultrax-UK said:
Pros:
"Free" Wifi Tethering (Allows you to use phone as a Hotspot for internet)
Delete Carrier Bloatware
Eliminate Banner Ads
Backup Everything on Your Phone
Make Your Phone Run Faster (By overclocking CPU etc)
Increase Your Battery Life (By installing custom and/or underclocking CPU)
Run Any App You Like
Move/Run Apps for SD-Card (with apps like Foldermount)
Cons:
Voids Your Warranty
Overclocking Can Cause Damage
Some apps wont work with root (EG: Banking apps, Sky Go etc)
Easy to Brick your Phone (If not done correctly)
Will Make Your Phone Less Stable (If not done correctly)
Rooting Could Become Illegal
May Prevent You from Getting Updates
There all loads more reason but these are the main ones.
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This is a very good list. I would just add one more PRO: rooting lets you buy a new phone more often (because you brick your old ones more often)
Seriously, one of the main reasons to root for me personally is to get rid of the banner ads for phones I prepare for older people who are prone to clicking on the banners and installing spam as the result.
Basically rooting is for people who like tinkering with their hardware.
OP, since you asked the question, I assume you have not rooted before, you should read up more about this, and maybe wait a few more days, to make sure rooting methods are stable, and you are fully familiar with the procedure. Believe me you do not want your phone accidentally bricked.
If you want some of the benefits of rooting such as the blocking banner ads you can unroot after changing the hosts file.
ill hold on rooting for now due to the cons. I dont want to break my first Droid :silly:
agree, and right now there is no full rooting toolkit for the s4 so I'll probably wait as well
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ill hold on rooting for now due to the cons. I dont want to break my first Droid :silly:
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i personally plan to wait 4-6 months before rooting... i can download stuff straight to my phone now cause of my huge sd card whereas before i would need to tether to my pc... also 9 gigs is enough for all the apps i run... i tend to be more minimalistic when it comes to downloading games etc...
so, for now i'll be fine without rooting just in case something goes wrong with it & i need to use the manufacturers warranty.
kreoXDA said:
This is a very good list. I would just add one more PRO: rooting lets you buy a new phone more often (because you brick your old ones more often)
Seriously, one of the main reasons to root for me personally is to get rid of the banner ads for phones I prepare for older people who are prone to clicking on the banners and installing spam as the result.
Basically rooting is for people who like tinkering with their hardware.
OP, since you asked the question, I assume you have not rooted before, you should read up more about this, and maybe wait a few more days, to make sure rooting methods are stable, and you are fully familiar with the procedure. Believe me you do not want your phone accidentally bricked.
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haha...nice words.
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agree, and right now there is no full rooting toolkit for the s4 so I'll probably wait as well
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I an waiting for tool kit because I'm not confident enough to do it with the current methods
How long before we can expect tool kits?
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I feel as though unless your experienced the current root methods are not noob friendly at all
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crimptool said:
Titanium Pro backup All the reason I need to root
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Yeah me too. But as far as i can say, I have old Galaxy S rooted, my banking apps work fine. Dont know which banking app does that root check. Remind me not to open an account, apply for credit card, take loans from that bank! :silly:
Apps no longer able to enable/disable the cellular radio without root
Rooting S4 (and all others phones) with JB 4.2.x IMHO is absolutely necessary as Google has removed the possibility for profile-manager apps to control the ON/OFF state of the cellular radio.
Unfortunately many serious users relying on time or location based profile switch are now out of luck!
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40497
It is not easy to brick your phone. You have to not pay attention, not follow directions, and use no common sense to get there. By that last I mean you should avoid unproven root methods unless you are willing to take the risks involved that such trail blazers face.
I'm not saying that rooting is right for anyone but those with a functional brain and the ability to read and follow simple directions should have a problem free experience. A couple basics, read the directions, all of them. Make absolutely sure that this procedure is the correct procedure for your specific handset. Do not be brave, it's no fun looking at a phone that won't boot when you lack the experience to deal with it so stick with what's proven. If you are not sure after reading up on the procedure, ask. No one wants to spoon feed the lazy but learning means asking questions sometimes so having read the material do not hesitate to ask if a part of the process is unclear.