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Hi i couldnt find any other comparative info here so i thought id ask.. has anyone else had, for the lack of a better term, worse response times and just general lag when using CM7 RC1 on their Aria compared to CM6?
For example when I turn the phone 90 degrees, the screen takes about 5 seconds to rotate; also alot of apps, such as messaging and the web browser seem to take alot longer to load/open then the CM6 rom (6.1.1)
Am I doing something wrong here or is the latest version of android just more demanding on CPU etc?
Sorry if this has been answered before, I was unable to find (using search) any answers.
Cheers
morry_88 said:
Hi i couldnt find any other comparative info here so i thought id ask.. has anyone else had, for the lack of a better term, worse response times and just general lag when using CM7 RC1 on their Aria compared to CM6?
For example when I turn the phone 90 degrees, the screen takes about 5 seconds to rotate; also alot of apps, such as messaging and the web browser seem to take alot longer to load/open then the CM6 rom (6.1.1)
Am I doing something wrong here or is the latest version of android just more demanding on CPU etc?
Sorry if this has been answered before, I was unable to find (using search) any answers.
Cheers
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I'm getting almost instant opening with all my apps. My screen rotation has a very slight hesitation, but its no more than a second, if that. Thats without overclocking. What you are seeing is not normal for cm7. I would recommend atleast upgrading to rc2, if not going to the latest nightly, which is what I'm running.
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Interesting. I just upgraded to RC2 and am waiting for my apps to finish restoring. after a fresh install the screen rotation was down to about 1~2 seconds which i think is normal from what i remember of older roms, im just hoping that when all my apps are back on they don't for some reason slow the phone back down.
One thing I did do just before upgrading was adjusting the min and max cpu power in settings->cyanogenmod settings->cpu settings and with the max set as high as it could the phone was much more responsive, but of course this will in turn eat battery alot faster, so I guess il just have to find a good balance.
Gota say the aria is still a meaty little phone for what it is
I think CM7 is fast ,and I am using CM7.
Hi,
I usually reinstall my HTC Hero with a different ROM every 2-3-4 weeks. Not because I enjoy it, but I experience that a newly installed ROM is quite fast, then over time, gets slower and slower and ends up being unbearably slow, kinda forcing me to reinstall.
My question is, how do I get around this? How do I prevent my Hero from being slower and slower so I can just install one ROM and stick with that?
I am quite sure that my flash has a swap (not 100% sure though, how do I check it?) and I am using a class 10 flash, so I guess it should be fast enough and not slow anyting down.
Also, I tend to think that it's a good idea to move all not so frequently used apps to SD, to free up main memory, but I am unsure if this in itself actually slows things down instead?
Any comments would be great.
/klaus
klausagnoletti said:
Hi,
I usually reinstall my HTC Hero with a different ROM every 2-3-4 weeks. Not because I enjoy it, but I experience that a newly installed ROM is quite fast, then over time, gets slower and slower and ends up being unbearably slow, kinda forcing me to reinstall.
My question is, how do I get around this? How do I prevent my Hero from being slower and slower so I can just install one ROM and stick with that?
I am quite sure that my flash has a swap (not 100% sure though, how do I check it?) and I am using a class 10 flash, so I guess it should be fast enough and not slow anyting down.
Also, I tend to think that it's a good idea to move all not so frequently used apps to SD, to free up main memory, but I am unsure if this in itself actually slows things down instead?
Any comments would be great.
/klaus
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When you run an app of SD you will be slower keep games on SD but things you need on phone
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Try rebooting your phone when it slows down
mar9118 said:
Try rebooting your phone when it slows down
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I tried that - only works very shortly, then gets back to normal.
/klaus
i installed froydvillain and this rom is so slow!, can you recommend some fast roms?
try this rom , it is so great , fast , stable , i had this proplem before i flashed this awesome rom , now my hero is faster than any time before , dont ask me how , but that is my experience
sorry for my bad english , just trying to help
try this rom < TESLARC601 > , it is so great , fast , stable , i had this proplem before i flashed this awesome rom , now my hero is faster than any time before , dont ask me how , but that is my experience
sorry for my bad english , just trying to help
superss94 said:
i installed froydvillain and this rom is so slow!, can you recommend some fast roms?
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The fastes ROM that i used on my hero was VillainROM 13...and damn is that fast or what...Now i use Salsa Sense 4.0 and the only problem is that it killes sometimes my SetCpu and it gets slow...
I'm now sure but i think that a 2.2 stock rocks on the hero...but elelinux has a GB rom that rocks (recommend if you like stock roms ).
PS: clock the phone @ 691 and you will get speed
klausagnoletti said:
Hi,
I usually reinstall my HTC Hero with a different ROM every 2-3-4 weeks. Not because I enjoy it, but I experience that a newly installed ROM is quite fast, then over time, gets slower and slower and ends up being unbearably slow, kinda forcing me to reinstall.
My question is, how do I get around this? How do I prevent my Hero from being slower and slower so I can just install one ROM and stick with that?
I am quite sure that my flash has a swap (not 100% sure though, how do I check it?) and I am using a class 10 flash, so I guess it should be fast enough and not slow anyting down.
Also, I tend to think that it's a good idea to move all not so frequently used apps to SD, to free up main memory, but I am unsure if this in itself actually slows things down instead?
Any comments would be great.
/klaus
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if you like games i recommend VillainROM 13...even if is a 2.1 android rom but it's fast... If you want a everyday use SalsaSense 4.0 is fun but has some bugs sometimes...
If you want stock android i recommend ele's GB ROM
I see this problem to sometimes but i noticed that the GB internal task manager killed setcpu
I have tried a few different ROM's and best one i have used is Elelinux Speedmachinev4, went to the market and downloaded Android Optimizer ToolBox, and got rid of all the apps i did not need or plan to use (you could also use Adb command line to achieve this aswell as a few other methods), and used the cyanogen setCPU to overclock my CPU to 710mhz. Also using Adavnced Task Killer set to auto kill apps every 3 hours.
And all above combined i have never had lag or slowdown or any problems what so ever.
What utility do you use to flash?
I mean, I had this problem ages ago, I was using AmonRa Recovery..the gradual slowness was becoming a problem for me as well, so I did 2 things:
1. Got myself the latest AmonRa version.
2. Got the latest Radios and Kernels.
Haven't had a problem yet..
yes,same with you,I ususall re-falsh rom again,it is best solve for the issue.
You just need a faster/better rom on your Hero. If your still having trouble I recommend Kimera Rom its stable and very fast.
I've found that certain rom's slow down faster than others, for instance I've been running OMGB for two months now with no problems. Other roms take less than a week to slow down, and lose their 'smoothness'
klausagnoletti said:
Hi,
I usually reinstall my HTC Hero with a different ROM every 2-3-4 weeks. Not because I enjoy it, but I experience that a newly installed ROM is quite fast, then over time, gets slower and slower and ends up being unbearably slow, kinda forcing me to reinstall.
My question is, how do I get around this? How do I prevent my Hero from being slower and slower so I can just install one ROM and stick with that?
I am quite sure that my flash has a swap (not 100% sure though, how do I check it?) and I am using a class 10 flash, so I guess it should be fast enough and not slow anyting down.
Also, I tend to think that it's a good idea to move all not so frequently used apps to SD, to free up main memory, but I am unsure if this in itself actually slows things down instead?
Any comments would be great.
/klaus
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When you are trying to run an app from your SD card, it takes longer time to receive data to your phone, so you are supposed to separate usual apps and games on different districts. And, installing too many unnecessary things on your phone will make your speed slower, so clean up your apps every months or even weeks is a good habit.
i never had this kind of problem,couse i change my roms almost every day
Hello all,
Today i installed the CM-9 ROM by ErwinP on my 1 year old Wildfire.
Its good with some issues:
1. Camera doesn't work.
2. gallery has a bug. The albums were visible when we tap and hold on the screen and drag to left or right. when we lift the finger the screen goes blank.
3. menu loading is slow every time.
4. screen lock is present but you have to select slide in the lock screen settings.
For any further issues, i'll update here, as I am new to this forum.
Some facts:
The ROM after install takes 151.8 MB of internal memory.
I have custom MTD partition of 160MB and 15MB cache. I'm getting 290 of internal memory but the system initially is taking 40 MB(I don't know why.)
So, usable is 250MB internal memory.
rajumack07 said:
Hello all,
Today i installed the CM-9 ROM by ErwinP on my 1 year old Wildfire.
Its good with some issues:
1. Camera doesn't work.
2. gallery has a bug. The albums were visible when we tap and hold on the screen and drag to left or right. when we lift the finger the screen goes blank.
3. menu loading is slow every time.
4. screen lock is present but you have to select slide in the lock screen settings.
For any further issues, i'll update here, as I am new to this forum.
Some facts:
The ROM after install takes 151.8 MB of internal memory.
I have custom MTD partition of 160MB and 15MB cache. I'm getting 290 of internal memory but the system initially is taking 40 MB(I don't know why.)
So, usable is 250MB internal memory.
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first two issues you pointed are already given issues. read op to check common issues present as well as replacement app particularly for gallery and some other stuff.
other than that i think i dont have any issues like the other things you mentioned.
try 210/25 custom mtd partitions...it worked for me
@pauch_19: thanks for the information. I will look into alternatives to the bugs. Also you can try my custom MTD settings if you want more internal memory. Can you help me in getting the Market app to work(or any alternative app).
rajumack07 said:
@pauch_19: thanks for the information. I will look into alternatives to the bugs. Also you can try my custom MTD settings if you want more internal memory. Can you help me in getting the Market app to work(or any alternative app).
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What's your problem with the market?
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I installed the market v3.4.4 backed up previously. When I open it, it shutdowns automatically. kindly, guide me.
rajumack07 said:
I installed the market v3.4.4 backed up previously. When I open it, it shutdowns automatically. kindly, guide me.
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Did you flash Google apps first? Or just install 3.4.4 apk?
You need to flash gapps I think, don't bother with 3.4.4 you should get an auto update to the new play one eventually.
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Scratch0805 said:
Did you flash Google apps first? Or just install 3.4.4 apk?
You need to flash gapps I think, don't bother with 3.4.4 you should get an auto update to the new play one eventually.
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Yeah, you'll need the entire gapps since the market also relies on some extra stuff.
(I had the same problem when I just installed the market .apk on my Elf.)
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that's probably the reason why you have more space on your internal memory because you forgot to flash gapps. incase you havent, flash gapps as what scratch and nejc suggested.. its also posted in op. its the latest gapps, about 52 mb in size so you will have to set your mtd partitions to default which is 250. im using the modified version which is just about 19 mb.
goodluck!
First of all thanks to all(Scratch0805,pauch_19 and nejc121) for your support in providing the information.
After getting the solution suggested by "Scratch0805". I again installed the ROM and along with the gapps at the same time. This time, I have taken the partition as 200 and 20. And after the boot, in terminal i found that system is using 186.4 MB. Still 13.6MB left.
Note: i installed the gapps with the size 51.88MB unmodified zip.
Now, everything works as it should have with camera as the exception.
One thing I want to know, what should be the CPU settings to follow for more than a day of battery life. Previously, i was using ON-DEMAND with 264-672MHz
and getting less than 22hrs of backup in CM7.
rajumack07 said:
First of all thanks to all(Scratch0805,pauch_19 and nejc121) for your support in providing the information.
After getting the solution suggested by "Scratch0805". I again installed the ROM and along with the gapps at the same time. This time, I have taken the partition as 200 and 20. And after the boot, in terminal i found that system is using 186.4 MB. Still 13.6MB left.
Note: i installed the gapps with the size 51.88MB unmodified zip.
Now, everything works as it should have with camera as the exception.
One thing I want to know, what should be the CPU settings to follow for more than a day of battery life. Previously, i was using ON-DEMAND with 264-672MHz
and getting less than 22hrs of backup in CM7.
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mine is 352/729 smartassv2. on minimal - regular use, mine last a day and a half..i really think it depends on phone usage.
@pauch_19 : So, it means you are not using any apps to control the cpu settings.
I also used the smartassv2 governor and i found that backup decreases as it was in on-demand.
But, the smoothness in using gets better in smartassv2. So, can you tell me which governor will be better in terms of battery life and speed or any post where its mentioned.
atm i dont have too many apps which is also i think one reason why my phone is alot smoother, responsive and gives me a very decent battery life. In performance - processor, my cpu frequency minimum is 352 and 729 max. i used this values even when i was on cm7 nightlies coz its much stable..havent tried it at 768 though cpu governor is smartass v2.
rajumack07 said:
@pauch_19 : So, it means you are not using any apps to control the cpu settings.
I also used the smartassv2 governor and i found that backup decreases as it was in on-demand.
But, the smoothness in using gets better in smartassv2. So, can you tell me which governor will be better in terms of battery life and speed or any post where its mentioned.
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I'm using the miui rom which is basically a modified version of cm9, I use setcpu just to set an underclock profile for when the screen goes off. My settings are on demand176/576 and powersave 176/352 as I've noticed that unless i'm straining the cpu by playing angry birds or watching a video with on demand my cpu tends to stay low doing normal things like making a phone call or checking xda but with smartassv2 it seems to jump high even when it doesn't really need to.
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@pauch_19 : As for your settings goes, it good for performance. And you are also getting good life out of it. Nice to know that. I also read a post earlier where members are saying CM7 is better than SplashMOD. If its true, kindly tell me If you know which CM7 nightlies version do i use and how to remove the apps(I once used CM7 # 256,I didn't like the camera UI but it was smooth though) I then, switched to SplashMOD 1.6.
@Scratch0805 : I like the CPU settings you were using. I will definitely try those when I'll install the SPlashMOD v2.0 downloaded yesterday. But, I haven't tried on 176 because i thought then I'll get delay in getting calls and also lag in the background process. If these are not the issues you are getting, then I will must use these, and I can say that I will get at least 35+hrs of backup. And how MIUI is as compared to CM9?
thanks again for the responses I'm getting.
Somewhere in themes and apps section is a thread for miui camera, its a flashable zip which will give you a much nicer camera ui than the cm7 one.
Miui is beautiful as a standalone Rom but gets even better if your prepared to put some effort in, it has the same bugs as cm9, but spend a few hours setting up workarounds and it runs like a dream, I only have 2 problems now 1 is the camera (nevermind tho, I have a digital cam anyway) 2 is if you like theming your phone miui is awesome for it, the only problem is it was designed for hdpi and gingerbread so all the top themes need modding to fit ldpi and ics.
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@Scratch0805 : I don't have any knowledge of modding. But I will definitely try MIUI ROM and can you tell me which CM7 version you are using, just asking if I may try that one anytime soon along with the miui camera.
rajumack07 said:
@pauch_19 : As for your settings goes, it good for performance. And you are also getting good life out of it. Nice to know that. I also read a post earlier where members are saying CM7 is better than SplashMOD. If its true, kindly tell me If you know which CM7 nightlies version do i use and how to remove the apps(I once used CM7 # 256,I didn't like the camera UI but it was smooth though) I then, switched to SplashMOD 1.6.
@Scratch0805 : I like the CPU settings you were using. I will definitely try those when I'll install the SPlashMOD v2.0 downloaded yesterday. But, I haven't tried on 176 because i thought then I'll get delay in getting calls and also lag in the background process. If these are not the issues you are getting, then I will must use these, and I can say that I will get at least 35+hrs of backup. And how MIUI is as compared to CM9?
thanks again for the responses I'm getting.
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Personally I haven't tried Splashmod so I really couldnt say CM7 is better. I only tried CM7 and Im really impressed at how Cyanogen turned it into a very nice and fast rom. Before trying erwin's CM9 I was on nightly 256 build 14 and everything is working well.
I will try that one also with the miui camera Scratch0805 suggested. If all goes well, at the end of the day I'll be using CM7.
The camera should be fine on any rom I think, splashmod is basically either cm7 or oxygen (can't remember which one its based on atm as the "dev" changes his mind more often than I change my wallpaper ) with some apps removed or substituted for another. Underneath though it will always be cm7 or oxygen.
I'm on miui v4 atm and loving it but I'd recommend till you get into the swing either cm7 nightly 256 or keep an eye on the cm7 thread and look for the unofficial builds which have been built by erwinp and cobje, they may have a few bugs though I doubt anything serious otherwise they wouldn't release it + we are still clinging on to some fairly talented people that will most likely suss out the bugs and let everyone know how to fix them in the thread.
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Well CM9 is really great, i love it, but sometimes my phone randomly reboot. Especially when i start phone.apk. Anybody with the same problem? I'm running on 352-710 MHz.
Also my GPS doesn't work.
I know such topics probably aren't appreciated here but please bear with me.
My P500 just crapped out on me, so I'm using a Dell XCD35 (Blade) till I buy a replacement. The problem is, it has a stock ROM, which is very sluggish.
Can someone recommend a ROM to me which is:
1. Smooth and stable
2. Has no 3G/Data issues
3. GPS works well
I have no other requirements, can be any flavor of Android, preferably 2.3+
Thank you so much guys
You can't go wrong with CM7 http://get.cm/get/3bO
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Swedish Snow.
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Mokee OS
Stop saying X or Y is the more stable, all 2.3 roms are stable ! Ics roms are +- stable, if you dont watch video its good.
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Almost all GB 2.3.x roms are pretty the same. CM7 and Swedish Snow are the most used, the second has slighty better 3D/2D performance, but CyanogenMod is more customizable and has a better look (imho).
ICS has (and, unless a miracle happen, will have) some bugs:
- No Hardware decoding acceleration (so no H.264 video / Youtube HQ can be played at full speed. Still you can play XviD/DivvX without so much issues) and stock video app won't play video that you record with onboard camera (they works with third party app like MXPlayer)
- No Panorama mode and camera effects in stock camera app
- No FM Radio
- No Native wifi tethering (but it works with WiFi Tether for Root app from the market (it's free))
If you don't mind the bugs, i suggest you to join the ICS experience and flash KonstaKANG (since it's the only still active ICS rom that has updates (last one was uploaded 3 days ago)), otherwise choose between CM7 (if you choose this, use targetbsp's builds that has some extra libs that increase 3D perfomance: http://blade.windows98.co.uk/ ) or Swedish Snow.
If you need some more info about all Blade roms, take a look at QuantumFoam thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702636
Blade ICS Rom issues
CTRL+ALT+DEL said:
ICS has (and, unless a miracle happen, will have) some bugs:
- No Hardware decoding acceleration (so no H.264 video / Youtube HQ can be played at full speed. Still you can play XviD/DivvX without so much issues) and stock video app won't play video that you record with onboard camera (they works with third party app like MXPlayer)
- No Panorama mode and camera effects in stock camera app
- No FM Radio
- No Native wifi tethering (but it works with WiFi Tether for Root app from the market (it's free))
If you don't mind the bugs, i suggest you to join the ICS experience and flash KonstaKANG (since it's the only still active ICS rom that has updates (last one was uploaded 3 days ago)),.
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I installed the ICS ROM, Eco_Blade_Stable_20120701 on my Idea Blade (ZTE Blade Gen2) phone. The ROM installation and the Gapps installation went smoothly and the phone booted normally. I synced my gmail id with the phone too. However, I've noticed that the phone has slowed down considerably post the ICS upgrade (I was using Swedish Snow earlier). The menus appear after a considerable amount of time, the home screen buttons take a lot of time to respond, the app drawer takes ages to open. Scrolling is very smooth though.
The reason I posted my problem is that the speed is not even usable. I waited 10 minutes for the SMS inbox to open (even though it is empty).
I later tried the update-cm-9-20120529-SNAPSHOT-blade-ColdFusionX-tilal6991-signed and even the Pre-CM9-AOKP-REMIX-RC6.6.9-BLADE-full-signed and all of them are running the same sluggish way.
A bit slower is fine but this is beyond usable. I saw the poll in the ICS roms for the Blade thread and people are using these ROMS for everyday use.
I checked and there is around 40MB RAM free at almost all times which is the same amount as that when running the gingerbread Swedish Snow (which runs smooth BTW).
What can be done about the slow down? Did I do anything wrong?
Should I just forget about using ICS on my phone?
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I installed the ICS ROM, Eco_Blade_Stable_20120701 on my Idea Blade (ZTE Blade Gen2) phone. The ROM installation and the Gapps installation went smoothly and the phone booted normally. I synced my gmail id with the phone too. However, I've noticed that the phone has slowed down considerably post the ICS upgrade (I was using Swedish Snow earlier). The menus appear after a considerable amount of time, the home screen buttons take a lot of time to respond, the app drawer takes ages to open. Scrolling is very smooth though.
The reason I posted my problem is that the speed is not even usable. I waited 10 minutes for the SMS inbox to open (even though it is empty).
I later tried the update-cm-9-20120529-SNAPSHOT-blade-ColdFusionX-tilal6991-signed and even the Pre-CM9-AOKP-REMIX-RC6.6.9-BLADE-full-signed and all of them are running the same sluggish way.
A bit slower is fine but this is beyond usable. I saw the poll in the ICS roms for the Blade thread and people are using these ROMS for everyday use.
I checked and there is around 40MB RAM free at almost all times.
What can be done about the slow down? Did I do anything wrong?
Should I just forget about using ICS on my phone?
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You could try freezing non essential apps with Titanium backup or similar.
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pavanchirmade said:
I installed the ICS ROM, Eco_Blade_Stable_20120701 on my Idea Blade (ZTE Blade Gen2) phone. The ROM installation and the Gapps installation went smoothly and the phone booted normally. I synced my gmail id with the phone too. However, I've noticed that the phone has slowed down considerably post the ICS upgrade (I was using Swedish Snow earlier). The menus appear after a considerable amount of time, the home screen buttons take a lot of time to respond, the app drawer takes ages to open. Scrolling is very smooth though.
The reason I posted my problem is that the speed is not even usable. I waited 10 minutes for the SMS inbox to open (even though it is empty).
I later tried the update-cm-9-20120529-SNAPSHOT-blade-ColdFusionX-tilal6991-signed and even the Pre-CM9-AOKP-REMIX-RC6.6.9-BLADE-full-signed and all of them are running the same sluggish way.
A bit slower is fine but this is beyond usable. I saw the poll in the ICS roms for the Blade thread and people are using these ROMS for everyday use.
I checked and there is around 40MB RAM free at almost all times which is the same amount as that when running the gingerbread Swedish Snow (which runs smooth BTW).
What can be done about the slow down? Did I do anything wrong?
Should I just forget about using ICS on my phone?
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The Coldfusion build you tried is very old, IDK abount AOKP Remix build number system, since I've never tried it. Have you tried KonstaKANG? Last (and with full hw acceleration) build is from 22/07 and you can find links in QuantumFoam's sticky thread in the ZTE Blade Android Development section.
Anyway, if your phone has only 256mb of RAM, i suggest you to stick with GB (Swedish Snow/Mokee OS/CM7.2)
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The Coldfusion build you tried is very old, IDK abount AOKP Remix build number system, since I've never tried it. Have you tried KonstaKANG? Last (and with full hw acceleration) build is from 22/07 and you can find links in QuantumFoam's sticky thread in the ZTE Blade Android Development section.
Anyway, if your phone has only 256mb of RAM, i suggest you to stick with GB (Swedish Snow/Mokee OS/CM7.2)
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Thanks for info - full hw accel. with latest KonstaKANG.
Also completely agree with you that with just 256 MB RAM it's better to stick to GB.
Even with CM 7.2 I am feeling 256 MB RAM is a little on low side.
I have enabled swap on my Idea ZTE Blade with m2sd and yes it's much better performance now.
Swap may not give same performance increase for ICS, well one can try.
I agree with most of the above. CM 7.2 has more features but if you only have 256 MB RAM then better to stick with Swedish Snow.
If in doubt, Swedish Snow.
http://www.modaco.com/topic/350875-romgen2-swedish-snow-rls7-android-235/
Hi guys,
All this bootloader stuff is confusing me coming from an S2..
So far i have,
1. Installed custom bootloader and rooted using After OTA
2. Dont remember how, but installed Twrp 2.2
3. Installed GodMachine 81kernal using the goo manager app.
I have not used the tablet much, but have bought it recently. It came with HC and got updated to 4.0.3 as soon as I checked for an update.
The tablet was fine, had no issues and was running smoothly. Maybe it was the Amoled effect or a higher ppi in the phone, i felt the animations were a tiny bit juddery while entering the menu for the first time.
Thought it was maybe due to lack speed, hence did all of the above.. oc.ed to 1.5 ghz
Even after the OC, the UI felt the same, used antutu as a benchmark. As soon as i installd the mods, tablet became very laggy and choppy, hence deleted the Z-ram file.
On stock ~ 5000 and above.
After mods - no oc - 4800~4900. Sometimes the scores go as low as 1200.
Oc - 6800~7000, as earler scores some times go as low as 1100-1300.
Also.some times the tablet becomes laggy soon after starting and i have newly noticed that everything on the Sd card is getting duplicated, i.e another copy is being created with the same file names and same size files, but diff icons.
Since the all the above did not yeild any usable results for me - I think the tablet and the stock ICS are fine, the UI thing is an android trait (project butter in Jelly bean eliminates the UI thing i am talkibg abt)
Tested an s3 on Ics, same UI thing that i felt, but not that noticable due to screen type and size
Hence, i feel reveting everything back to stock would be a gud idea for me as i just play nomal games and watch movies, even though i like the idea of 1.5 ghz X 2 when wanted for benchies.
So ti get back to the stock 4.0.3, which file should i use? there are soo many of them.
1. Which one.s the latest one? Pre rooted, deodexed and zip alligned also would be helpful.
2.How do i install CWM? Cause when on stock, i tried getting into the recovery, an android image showed up nothing happened. I prefer to have CWM over others cause it is familiar.
3. What advanteges will an unlocked bootloader give over a locked one for skme one who prefers a stock rom? Is it manditory for rooting?
4. Any clues about the Sd card issue? also the galary is gettin my google images up, the sync is off, but j cannot turn iff the jndividual syncs.
5. What package do u suggest for some one like me - i do not want the tablet to freeze and just want a smooth Stock like experience along with any benifits if any (but not at the expense of the battery)
Thankx in advance guys.
Sent from Atrix 2™
Update -
Disabled Acer Meida, 3D photo viewer and disbled the photo syncing. Tablet is gud and fluidic now.
But while watching youtube @ 720p using Dolphin browser, the video sometime freezes and comes back again. Audio is fine. any ideas why this might be happening ?
I also found this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839313
I guess I can use it to make every thing stock if I feel like. Stock - bootloader, Unroot, Stock kernel & Stock 3.1 HC .Then OTA to ICS.
boxy44 said:
Hi guys,
All this bootloader stuff is confusing me coming from an S2..
So far i have,
1. Installed custom bootloader and rooted using After OTA
2. Dont remember how, but installed Twrp 2.2
3. Installed GodMachine 81kernal using the goo manager app.
I have not used the tablet much, but have bought it recently. It came with HC and got updated to 4.0.3 as soon as I checked for an update.
The tablet was fine, had no issues and was running smoothly. Maybe it was the Amoled effect or a higher ppi in the phone, i felt the animations were a tiny bit juddery while entering the menu for the first time.
Thought it was maybe due to lack speed, hence did all of the above.. oc.ed to 1.5 ghz
Even after the OC, the UI felt the same, used antutu as a benchmark. As soon as i installd the mods, tablet became very laggy and choppy, hence deleted the Z-ram file.
On stock ~ 5000 and above.
After mods - no oc - 4800~4900. Sometimes the scores go as low as 1200.
Oc - 6800~7000, as earler scores some times go as low as 1100-1300.
Also.some times the tablet becomes laggy soon after starting and i have newly noticed that everything on the Sd card is getting duplicated, i.e another copy is being created with the same file names and same size files, but diff icons.
Since the all the above did not yeild any usable results for me - I think the tablet and the stock ICS are fine, the UI thing is an android trait (project butter in Jelly bean eliminates the UI thing i am talkibg abt)
Tested an s3 on Ics, same UI thing that i felt, but not that noticable due to screen type and size
Hence, i feel reveting everything back to stock would be a gud idea for me as i just play nomal games and watch movies, even though i like the idea of 1.5 ghz X 2 when wanted for benchies.
So ti get back to the stock 4.0.3, which file should i use? there are soo many of them.
1. Which one.s the latest one? Pre rooted, deodexed and zip alligned also would be helpful.
2.How do i install CWM? Cause when on stock, i tried getting into the recovery, an android image showed up nothing happened. I prefer to have CWM over others cause it is familiar.
3. What advanteges will an unlocked bootloader give over a locked one for skme one who prefers a stock rom? Is it manditory for rooting?
4. Any clues about the Sd card issue? also the galary is gettin my google images up, the sync is off, but j cannot turn iff the jndividual syncs.
5. What package do u suggest for some one like me - i do not want the tablet to freeze and just want a smooth Stock like experience along with any benifits if any (but not at the expense of the battery)
Thankx in advance guys.
Sent from Atrix 2™
Update -
Disabled Acer Meida, 3D photo viewer and disbled the photo syncing. Tablet is gud and fluidic now.
But while watching youtube @ 720p using Dolphin browser, the video sometime freezes and comes back again. Audio is fine. any ideas why this might be happening ?
I also found this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839313
I guess I can use it to make every thing stock if I feel like. Stock - bootloader, Unroot, Stock kernel & Stock 3.1 HC .Then OTA to ICS.
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Thats also whats happenning to me I own an s2 and this bootloader is killing me but not only that, the support here on this section is pretty low, Im seeing a lot of ppl with unanswered questions unlike my beloved s2 section here on xda, so I might not root my tab after all due to the slow and maybe none supported helpers here to help you.
Sent from my Epic 4G Touch on Codename JoyRide using xda Premium.
boxy44 said:
Hi guys,
All this bootloader stuff is confusing me coming from an S2..
...
1. Which one.s the latest one? Pre rooted, deodexed and zip alligned also would be helpful.
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civato's thread official acer stock roms OR
blackthund3rs rom list
ezterry too i think has stock plus the oc kernel
2.How do i install CWM? Cause when on stock, i tried getting into the recovery, an android image showed up nothing happened. I prefer to have CWM over others cause it is familiar.
3. What advanteges will an unlocked bootloader give over a locked one for skme one who prefers a stock rom? Is it manditory for rooting?
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flashing the unpatched bootloader will also flash cwm as well.
benefits include being able to flash cwm!!
Dual boot linux
fastboot mode
4. Any clues about the Sd card issue? also the galary is gettin my google images up, the sync is off, but j cannot turn iff the jndividual syncs.
5. What package do u suggest for some one like me - i do not want the tablet to freeze and just want a smooth Stock like experience along with any benifits if any (but not at the expense of the battery)
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Click to collapse
will leave this for others more knowledgable about these things
I also found this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1839313
I guess I can use it to make every thing stock if I feel like. Stock - bootloader, Unroot, Stock kernel & Stock 3.1 HC .Then OTA to ICS.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes you can go about it this way if u like...good way to check your cpuid while back on HC...Do the wipes as suggested!!!
Rasmux said:
, the support here on this section is pretty low, Im seeing a lot of ppl with unanswered questions unlike my beloved s2 section here on xda, so I might not root my tab after all due to the slow and maybe none supported helpers here to help you.
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Click to collapse
And this attitude is the reason why some people don't wish to help. You have to understand;
1. Everything here is free, and nobody places any pressure to use it.
2. Most issues that users have, concerning bootloaders and CWM, have already been answered multiple times. (search button)
3. People have School, job and family, and devote what little free time to help the others. If a person doesn't respond to a question, it's usually because;
a. They don't know the answer.
b. The problem is a repetitive one already answered (search button)
c. They just don't have the time.
To compare the 500 forum to the S2, is comparing apples to oranges. GS2 users outnumber 500 users by probably >100-1, so it makes sense there are more users in that forum.
A lot of people put a lot of behind the scenes work getting mods, kernels, bootloaders, apps, etc working for the 500/501. Not to mention they do a lot of PM support that you just don't see.
So give some folks a break. Most questions here get answered.
MD
boxy44 said:
The tablet was fine, had no issues and was running smoothly. Maybe it was the Amoled effect or a higher ppi in the phone, i felt the animations were a tiny bit juddery while entering the menu for the first time.
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This is normal behavior. Use of a third party launcher might clear this.
boxy44 said:
Thought it was maybe due to lack speed, hence did all of the above.. oc.ed to 1.5 ghz
Even after the OC, the UI felt the same, used antutu as a benchmark. As soon as i installd the mods, tablet became very laggy and choppy, hence deleted the Z-ram file.
On stock ~ 5000 and above.
After mods - no oc - 4800~4900. Sometimes the scores go as low as 1200.
Oc - 6800~7000, as earler scores some times go as low as 1100-1300.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can OC to 3ghz and the UI will always feel the same. OC has no effect on the UI, but only on games and some graphic intensive apps. You seem to misunderstand what OC does. The large benefit, is UV and some of the newer governors like lultzactive and savagedzen. These are designed to save battery without a performance loss. Also, depending on governor, benchmarks can actually decrease the more you run them. And benchmarks, are never to be trusted.
boxy44 said:
Also.some times the tablet becomes laggy soon after starting and i have newly noticed that everything on the Sd card is getting duplicated, i.e another copy is being created with the same file names and same size files, but diff icons.
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This is normal as the android system is obviously doing something it couldn't do when it was sleeping or turned off. The ghost icons are pretty normal, as I have them also. You can see which ones are the real files. No explanation for it, but I'm used to it. This is just how "windows" sees things. I would guess it's kernel/bootloader related, but if tht's the worse that happens, I can live with it.
boxy44 said:
Hence, i feel reveting everything back to stock would be a gud idea for me as i just play nomal games and watch movies, even though i like the idea of 1.5 ghz X 2 when wanted for benchies.
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If you only want benchmarks, and aren't interested in gaming or battery life, why bother OC? The primary reason to OC/UV is to save battery and have better GPU performance.
boxy44 said:
Disabled Acer Meida, 3D photo viewer and disbled the photo syncing. Tablet is gud and fluidic now.
But while watching youtube @ 720p using Dolphin browser, the video sometime freezes and comes back again. Audio is fine. any ideas why this might be happening ?.
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Click to collapse
Disabling those, and others, is always a good start. Probably explains a lot of your problems. As with Dolphin and Youtube, good luck. Not much better browser, although Dolphin has a habit of just closing out.
MD
Thanx
Moscow Desire said:
This is normal behavior. Use of a third party launcher might clear this.
You can OC to 3ghz and the UI will always feel the same. OC has no effect on the UI, but only on games and some graphic intensive apps. You seem to misunderstand what OC does. The large benefit, is UV and some of the newer governors like lultzactive and savagedzen. These are designed to save battery without a performance loss. Also, depending on governor, benchmarks can actually decrease the more you run them. And benchmarks, are never to be trusted.
This is normal as the android system is obviously doing something it couldn't do when it was sleeping or turned off. The ghost icons are pretty normal, as I have them also. You can see which ones are the real files. No explanation for it, but I'm used to it. This is just how "windows" sees things. I would guess it's kernel/bootloader related, but if tht's the worse that happens, I can live with it.
If you only want benchmarks, and aren't interested in gaming or battery life, why bother OC? The primary reason to OC/UV is to save battery and have better GPU performance.
Disabling those, and others, is always a good start. Probably explains a lot of your problems. As with Dolphin and Youtube, good luck. Not much better browser, although Dolphin has a habit of just closing out.
MD
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Thankx for the help man...
I did not have the chance to really spend quality time with the tablet till now, leave alone tweaking it...
I know that OC is not the key and Jelly bean is - but no harm in trying
Got a chance to test two Asus Terga 3 Tablets, both factory reset, one updated to JB & one on ICS.
Did the UI thing side to side and - woila !!! Project butter Shines )
I will post my developments in this thread, cause in a few days i will finish my engagements and will become free.
boxy44 said:
Thankx for the help man...
I did not have the chance to really spend quality time with the tablet till now, leave alone tweaking it...
I know that OC is not the key and Jelly bean is - but no harm in trying
Got a chance to test two Asus Terga 3 Tablets, both factory reset, one updated to JB & one on ICS.
Did the UI thing side to side and - woila !!! Project butter Shines )
I will post my developments in this thread, cause in a few days i will finish my engagements and will become free.
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Naw, it's ok Mate.
Everybody thinks that OC is the way to go. But really, it only benefits games, some films, and battery (UV). The 50x series is pretty good about battery once you learn battery management with the help of a good UV kernel. (but hey, I like benchmarks also )
As with the momentary "stutter" when first going into the apps drawer, I can say this, get a third party launcher. Or, do some V6 Supercharge.
Also, as with my 701, under ICS 4.0.4 I had the same stutter. The JB update fixed it.
Rock On Dude!
MD
Moscow Desire said:
And this attitude is the reason why some people don't wish to help. You have to understand;
1. Everything here is free, and nobody places any pressure to use it.
2. Most issues that users have, concerning bootloaders and CWM, have already been answered multiple times. (search button)
3. People have School, job and family, and devote what little free time to help the others. If a person doesn't respond to a question, it's usually because;
a. They don't know the answer.
b. The problem is a repetitive one already answered (search button)
c. They just don't have the time.
To compare the 500 forum to the S2, is comparing apples to oranges. GS2 users outnumber 500 users by probably >100-1, so it makes sense there are more users in that forum.
A lot of people put a lot of behind the scenes work getting mods, kernels, bootloaders, apps, etc working for the 500/501. Not to mention they do a lot of PM support that you just don't see.
So give some folks a break. Most questions here get answered.
MD
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My apologies for my rude reply, I suppose you are right, I didnt mean to upset you nor offend you, If I did Im sorry.
On other topic I finally flash my tab, and it was way easier than my s2 when i did it, everything was 1 click installation and Afterota helped a lot, thank you, ill be around.
Sent from my Epic 4G Touch on Codename JoyRide using xda Premium.
Guys,
Most of my UI thingies solved !!!!
Just installed the Nova launcher, meddled with the settings and UI is now as smooth as silk..
I noticed that every time i start up the tablet, every thing is laggy- even the audio.pop's
I found the reason for this- the governer, as soon as i change it to anything else, every thing becomes smooth...
If the interactive governer is set after changing it initially, it still remains smooth... one can just select anyother governer (lulzactive) and use set on boot option in cpu master it anyone else has the same problem..
I went for a clean up and messed it a bit
First installed a stock 3.1 from the thread mentioned in the earlier post... but turns out a non WW package does not update OTA if outside the Us (Australia), by this time messes the recovery, hence ended up installing cwm all over again ( thanks to Moscow Desires thread+latest frimware file ) and installed the latest stock 4.0.3 + apex launcher..