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Can we boot and install win 8 through mass storage on android?
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Can we boot and install win 8 through mass storage on android?
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unless you're confident enough to ruin your device, no. things you need are:
-a BIOS
-a Tablet (not a galaxy phone)
-an ARM chipset
-a fat32/NTFS HDD Partition
-16 GB of HDD (average droid tablet only have 16gb. so why install?)
-and, the ability to choose boot location on booting up
androids do not have all of the above except the ARM thing. so no.
anyways it's still a dev preview not a fully-functional desktop/tablet OS. so don't treat it as such and thank me. even if it's not helping you (ungrateful bastard)
+thanks whore lol.
johnston9234 said:
+thanks whore lol.
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Hilarious
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You can't install on android tablets but you can install on tablets that comes with windows 7/vista/xp tablet edition.
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Sorry let me rephrase......
I meant can you put windows 8 on the sd card and install it onto a windows 7 pc using the mass storage option in android?
I don't have a usb stick or dvd so my phone will be the only way id be able to install it on a pc..
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A_Flying_Fox said:
Sorry let me rephrase......
I meant can you put windows 8 on the sd card and install it onto a windows 7 pc using the mass storage option in android?
I don't have a usb stick or dvd so my phone will be the only way id be able to install it on a pc..
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I realize you probably figured it out, but for anyone else that might be wondering if this works, it does. That's how I originally did it, but then I read you can download a program that uses your cd-rom as a USB drive of sorts for the ISO file and I did it that way for my old laptop. I forgot what it was called, but I found it by googling how to install the new developer's build.
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So I just seen that the SGS3 supports EXFat and files over 4gb's now. So if you want a really fast SD card, consider formatting from Fat32 over to exfat, and set block size to 16mb or 32mb. I know most if not all my files are 5mb or way over that, so not much space is wasted! I hope that helps someone
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Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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Why on earth would you want a 32 MB block size? Seems like you would end up with a ton of wasted space.
smark72 said:
Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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Well for me I have a lot of movies, huge pictures, music over 7mb. I myself use 16mb. But for people that want full speed from exfat will select 32mb.
smark72 said:
Can you format ex fat in the phone itself or has to be pc? I purchased a 64gb sdxc card and will need to do this.
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I don't have the phone or Id let you know. I do have my 32gb c10 ready to go when it gets here though
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So would that mean that any files I have under 16mb will in fact take up 16mb of space? Even files that are only a few kb?
Yes. I know it sounds scary, but most small items are stored on the phone sdcard.
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WARNING: Samsung's exFAT driver implementation is buggy!
exFAT is not an open standard. It is MS proprietary. Do not expect it to fully work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27415975&postcount=18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698672&page=2
jnadke said:
WARNING: Samsung's exFAT driver implementation is buggy!
exFAT is not an open standard. It is MS proprietary. Do not expect it to fully work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27415975&postcount=18
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698672&page=2
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I didn't read the whole thread. But from what I saw, only 3 people had a problem. And at first he said he copied 1900 files and had corruption, then he states its a problem over 3000. I don't know if this is user error, or what. But thanks for the warning, Ill keep an eye out....... And if that guy was checking file by file for 1900 songs, that's some serious time, I call BS.
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TeamERA said:
I didn't read the whole thread.... , I call BS.
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A bunch of other people were having the same problem too.
jnadke said:
A bunch of other people were having the same problem too.
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It may well be correct, and now I can't wait to find out, damn 32gb PB pre order
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I unloaded my 64gb sd card, put it in the phone and it formatted it to exfat, I copied all my data back to the card and did a restore from mybackup pro, after the restore and reboot I then received a damaged sd card, i'm not sure what's going on, The only 2 options on windows is NTFS and exFat
Performance gain will be nominal. You're talking a phone here, not a database server dealing with heavy iOPS. I have a 64GB Class 10 in mine and performance could not be better. I also had a ***** of a time getting the card to register after I let my PC format it, had to, absolutely had to, let the device format it.
Note: I'm a heavy performance user who goes for maximum battery without overly sacrificing performance. Professionally, I build and configure SAN's for Exchange, SQL and vSphere. I make no claims to being a phone development god (thought about refreshing my skills there but frankly, don't have the time), BUT I'm also VERY good at what I do.
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ILA970JOSH said:
I unloaded my 64gb sd card, put it in the phone and it formatted it to exfat, I copied all my data back to the card and did a restore from mybackup pro, after the restore and reboot I then received a damaged sd card, i'm not sure what's going on, The only 2 options on windows is NTFS and exFat
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Had the same problem. I had no option but to let the phone format it. Delete the partition in windows and then you can format it. If you find another way though, let me know!
Sorry misread your post, I had the same error and had to let it reformat. Did you unplug it and put it into your PC? Were any corrective scans or anything done?
I removed everything back off the card, formatted it to fat32 and copied everything back to it, put it back in the phone and it's still saying it's damaged. Sucks, it's been in my EVO3D for a week now with no problems.
is the extra juice really worth the possibility of data corruption? Im not trying to be a wise guy, just really been wondering myself.
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is the extra juice really worth the possibility of data corruption? Im not trying to be a wise guy, just really been wondering myself.
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Well I must say now I'm worried. But I'm still going to test, I copy huge files to and from on a regular basis, if it saves me 3% in time each time, that is still worth it to me in the long run. I have very little patience, and all that time adds up.
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seems to be working now, I had 8,000 temp files in a MyBackup Pro Directory, Deleted them and now it's working
So if I were to format my 64gb card to exfat and download movies to my phone using adownloader or atorrent, I wouldn't be able to transfer them to my ps3?
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smark72 said:
So if I were to format my 64gb card to exfat and download movies to my phone using adownloader or atorrent, I wouldn't be able to transfer them to my ps3?
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I use xbox lol, I don't know if it would work on ps3.
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TeamERA said:
I use xbox lol, I don't know if it would work on ps3.
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Does it work and show up on the Xbox?
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smark72 said:
Does it work and show up on the Xbox?
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I don't have the phone yet, Ill let you know in here though.
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Does the nexus have exactly 1 gb of Ram or is some used for the system? And it is enough for you?
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640k is all the RAM you'll ever need...
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So the nexus 7 has only 640 of usable ram?
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974MB available RAM which is really really hard to use all of. In-fact, I've never come remotely close..
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640k is all the RAM you'll ever need...
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:laugh: i dunno... loading himem.sys to get to my extra 2MB of ram was pretty fantastic.
kevin130 said:
So the nexus 7 has only 640 of usable ram?
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Nexus 7 has ~975MB of ram available. This only has 640K of usable ram
On vanilla android it is plenty, on crapwiz or sense it isn't.
simple as that really.
The N7 is such an improvement over my S3 multitasking wise.
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I've never came close to using up all the memory. I think 1gb is more than enough for the average user.
I have 16...What are u talking about?
Nvm
swisstourist said:
I have 16...What are u talking about?
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Yes. Yes you do....
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swisstourist said:
I have 16...What are u talking about?
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Two types of memory in the Nexus 7.
1GB that the CPU uses to actually run the applications.
8GB or more used for storage.
As per the 1GB? There are many tabs out there that are only 512MB.
Depends on the foot print for the future "Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory" OS. That could take almost 1TB
And how u controll this 1gb.?
It works. U don't care. It runs well... So 1 g is well enough. no?
The 1gb is fine. Wish it could have at least been 1.5gb to future proof it better but hey $200 for my 8gb, no complaints here.
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I still remember using a PC with Pentium 2 in it, running windows 95, and 32 Megs of RAM is plenty. And 128 mb is like having a supercomputer.
The whole computer itself cost more than 400$.
I heard that it has something to do with RAM. Sometimes when you come back to the web browser after awhile, the page has to be reloaded. Is this due to the lack of RAM? How do I prevent tell Android to reserve a certain amount of RAM for the browser?
Or stop burning up all your ram with - running apps in the background, live wallpapers, slideshows, widgets, weather lock screen, email sync every 30 seconds and whatever other rubbish is clogging up the system... whenever I check my running apps screen I always have 575MB free ram... way more than needed
webslasher said:
I still remember using a PC with Pentium 2 in it, running windows 95, and 32 Megs of RAM is plenty. And 128 mb is like having a supercomputer.
The whole computer itself cost more than 400$.
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Dang now your making me feel old I remember how excited I was to upgrade from my windows 3.1 PC to a laptop with a Pentium 1 and 16mb of ram. Now that was a big upgrade.
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b00mb00mchuck said:
Or stop burning up all your ram with - running apps in the background, live wallpapers, slideshows, widgets, weather lock screen, email sync every 30 seconds and whatever other rubbish is clogging up the system... whenever I check my running apps screen I always have 575MB free ram... way more than needed
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+1
I have around 975 MB of RAM. For me, it is definitely more than enough.
brooksyx said:
Dang now your making me feel old I remember how excited I was to upgrade from my windows 3.1 PC to a laptop with a Pentium 1 and 16mb of ram. Now that was a big upgrade.
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LOL, i remember windows 3.1 too, we need to type "windows" in ms-dos in order to get into windows , but i was too young to understand what really is windows that time, i thought it was an application.
Sorry for out of topic tho
Oh boy... haha. So my Windows 8 pro disk arrived today and I installed it and everything and told it to keep NOTHING, but it insisted on keeping shizz anyways, so then I decided it'd be a good idea to hit to hit the RESET button in the Control Panel since I had my shiz backed up anyways and WOW... I have some of the BEST PC specs out there and this thing is taking it's sweet ass time. Lol. It's been 12 hours and it's nearly 22%....
So my question to you guys is... Have any of you ever tried this? How long did it take you? What's your PCs specs? Did you wipe all drives? Any coolio info for me on Windows 8 before I switch back to Mint Linux?
Thanks!
Can't wait to see your replies,
John
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That's why you boot from the disk and not start the installer in windows.
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That's why you boot from the disk and not start the installer in windows.
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Haha that's what I ended up doing. What's so special about their formatting vs the boot from disks method?
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StrumerJohn said:
Haha that's what I ended up doing. What's so special about their formatting vs the boot from disks method?
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Installing Windows within Windows
Insert joke here
In all seriousness, Microsoft has had a problem "upgrading" since it started trying.
Took me about 6 hours to upgrade. Chose the option to keep everything.
Clean install from boot took maximum 1 to 1.5 hour to install...
I've had the same issue. I chose to do a full clean on the main partition and after 8 hours, I'm at 54%. Hopefully when I'm off work it will be done but that's not a good sign.
When it's done, I'm going to also be performing another reset but not the full clean. I would truly like to know the real differences between the 2 reset options. Does one delete the partition and format and the other doesn't?
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I've had the same issue. I chose to do a full clean on the main partition and after 8 hours, I'm at 54%. Hopefully when I'm off work it will be done but that's not a good sign.
When it's done, I'm going to also be performing another reset but not the full clean. I would truly like to know the real differences between the 2 reset options. Does one delete the partition and format and the other doesn't?
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The reset option formats and defrags along with segment checks for errors I believe.
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I "Refreshed" Windows 8 once during RTM but before 10/26 and it took forever on my SS7S with SSD and then I had a ton of software glitch problems afterwards. I don't personally believe the "Refresh" works.
Imo, you're better off just backing your stuff up and formating your stuff from the bios / booting from the Windows 8 disk.
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sounds a bit dodgy to me, it shouldn't have taken that long at all
oh an just a quick word to all the "updating is bad" folk out there, its been a long time since Windows actually did a proper "update" updates now consist in dumping all your old crap in a separate folder and installing windows to a new folder. Its very clean and no worse then a fresh install, infact I now recommend updating as all the old crap which users inevitably forget to backup is still there for the taking, I updated this system im typing on from Win 7 to 8 in a little over 30 min, start to finish, virtual drived the ISO, and let it fly like poo of a shovel is it some uber fast system?
well its a quad core AMD 905e 4GB of RAM and a good old WD 1TB 7200 HDD, not too shabby but pretty slow by todays standards
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Imo, you're better off just backing your stuff up and formating your stuff from the bios / booting from the Windows 8 disk.
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That's exactly what I'm going to do tomorrow when my 32 usb 3o flash drive comes
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Hi all,
I've got a nexus 4 here, running paranoid android 3.9, and my storage is just not right, When I calculate the taken up space by stuff like music, apps, others I should have a bit over 3gb of free space. And my phone says I've got 1gb. Any idea of what might be the problem?
I'll post a snapshot tomorrow when I get to the computer, for some reason it doesn't wanna post it from a phone.
Thanks!
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domiq123 said:
Hi all,
I've got a nexus 4 here, running paranoid android 3.9, and my storage is just not right, When I calculate the taken up space by stuff like music, apps, others I should have a bit over 3gb of free space. And my phone says I've got 1gb. Any idea of what might be the problem?
I'll post a snapshot tomorrow when I get to the computer, for some reason it doesn't wanna post it from a phone.
Thanks!
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Use the app Disk Usage: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.diskusage
When you use it, make sure you click /data not just sdcard because /data directory is more accurate for checking storage
Thanks,
CWM backups take a bit more space then the ones on my old phone, where they would be around 500mb and on my nexus is around 2gb
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