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My Own Testing on all these roms...

Ever since i got my hands on an Android i been testing like crazy looking for that perfect rom. Not until recently cyanogens roms were a nightmare for me. Btw, i have a mytouch 3G black T-mobile USA version. I have it loaded with the RAv1.4 or is it RAv1.2, anyway the cyanogen and many other roms ( i suspect its the SPL) have a screen lit problem. after i put the phone to sleep, when it wakes up it has the big black blur. Cyanogen recently fixed it! and his roms have been awesome until the last release. No more tethering, no more apps like that one fabolous task killer app with the blue icon. Once again im sure there is good reasoning..
I dont need smart ass replies or answers to anything i read above. this thread is for others like me that just want to kno which rom is awesome for their phone. like me, they dont want to click thru every single release thread with 10,000 pages. lets get it started with one that im loving!
1) RaiderX303 Micro Hero v2.0
Everything is FAST AND SMOOTH
No "extra" apps included
Market doesnt seem to work ( i only tried to dl astrid..not dling)
SO FAST its worth it for me to use for a few days even week(s).
and i mean fast as most hero apps i uninstall in a hour.
I will update this thread as i go
NOTE: writing this was purely out of my boredom/lunch break. i do not attempt to put in an extra effort to get things right like that name of the blue app that kills my tasks(damn what is it calllledd) . im simply venting/commenting on roms i try out as im a rom fiend just like linux distros. so if your using the same phone as iam ...come back

update
Market does work just not astrid.
Found wifi tethering on market.

I'm sorry, but what's the meaning of this thread?

my own thread logging up which rom i tried and liked/ what didnt work. is this a problem? or am i suppose to go to every roms own thread to post my opinion?

phoneaddict13 said:
my own thread logging up which rom i tried and liked/ what didnt work. is this a problem? or am i suppose to go to every roms own thread to post my opinion?
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Yes you should post your opinion in each thread. This has nothing to do with development. At the very least post this in general.

thanks for the right "direction"
mods is it possible to move this to general? thanks

Too slow

I have no idea what happened.
I'm using Cyanogen last update and the phone is so slow it is useless.
Specially when closing an app and going back to the home screen... it takes forever for the phone to be available and ready.
What is the problem ? Any hint?

nricci said:
I have no idea what happened.
I'm using Cyanogen last update and the phone is so slow it is useless.
Specially when closing an app and going back to the home screen... it takes forever for the phone to be available and ready.
What is the problem ? Any hint?
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Im guessing you have alot of apps open in the background then, you should consider getting a task killer app from market.

Not really...
A wipe fixes everything.

Thank you guys.
The phone is slow 5 seconds after a reboot.
Home screen takes forever to appear and some time forces close.
I might try another room, I don't know.

Everything you need is right here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567610

I had the same issue. Here is what i did to fix it
Did a Nandroid backup, wipe ,flash with the 1.6 base rom first, then the latest CyanogenMod rom.

Thanks
Will try your suggestions and post the results

Mine was slowing to a crawl as well, turns out (I think) it didn't run as well with compcache enabled. Since disabling it again it is running much better.

nricci said:
I have no idea what happened.
I'm using Cyanogen last update and the phone is so slow it is useless.
Specially when closing an app and going back to the home screen... it takes forever for the phone to be available and ready.
What is the problem ? Any hint?
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My hint would be ditch Cyan(buggy arse rom)mod and switch to something better and more reliable like either rom in my signiture.

shadowch31 said:
My hint would be ditch Cyan(buggy arse rom)mod and switch to something better and more reliable like either rom in my signiture.
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Did you just call cyanogen buggy? Them's fightin' words *spits into spittoon*

JAguirre1231 said:
Did you just call cyanogen buggy? Them's fightin' words *spits into spittoon*
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Erm I do believe I did! *spits into spittoon and listens for the 'ting' noise*
I'll even go as far to say any dev putting the word stable in the title of a rom (at his own admission when it is anything but and needs to be tested) yet still continues trying to fool himself by still saying its stable deserves to have it labelled buggy crap

shadowch31 said:
Erm I do believe I did! *spits into spittoon and listens for the 'ting' noise*
I'll even go as far to say any dev putting the word stable in the title of a rom (at his own admission when it is anything but and needs to be tested) yet still continues trying to fool himself by still saying its stable deserves to have it labelled buggy crap
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Let's just remember, cyan is basically the base for many roms

JAguirre1231 said:
Let's just remember, cyan is basically the base for many roms
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Oh I know that fella, I'm using Super D at the moment which is a mix of cyan and dwang and whilst they use the base they also inherite the annoying little bugs too
He has done one hell of a lot for the community, still doesn't detract from the facts though.

shadowch31 said:
Oh I know that fella, I'm using Super D at the moment which is a mix of cyan and dwang and whilst they use the base they also inherite the annoying little bugs too
He has done one hell of a lot for the community, still doesn't detract from the facts though.
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I used cyan for a week then went back to hero.Now im back on hero(espresso).

On the concept of "stable" I think people have preconceived definitions without merit. Take for example the definition of a "stable stochastic process", which though it is nicer to deal with than many Levy processes, is still a pure jump process. If one can accept the idea of a pure jump stochastic process as being "stable" then it is no problem to see any Cyanogen ROM as stable.
As a side note, I have not had any issues with CM that could not be easily resolved. I love his ROMS, but have a lot of respect for the extremely stable work put out by Enom (I only used his ROM for awhile, but switched to CM for the ease in theming).

This has happened to me before with Cyanogen but I found it was more to do with the SD Card. It would happen anytime I removed the USB cable without "Ejecting" the phone first, amongst other things.
The solution was to format the SD Card and reflash but the downside is you lose everything including apps.

"The new guy 6"... any one use it?

Hello i noticed the thread for "the new guy" rom is gone. I have also noticed that the new guy 6 is out, but i cant find any information on it. Is there something wrong with this rom build? i am currently running new guy 5, which is one of the only roms ive been able to get usb tether working on.
i also notice the creater andrizoid has been disabled on the forums. i hope someone could shed some light on this for me.

john10101 said:
Hello i noticed the thread for "the new guy" rom is gone. I have also noticed that the new guy 6 is out, but i cant find any information on it. Is there something wrong with this rom build? i am currently running new guy 5, which is one of the only roms ive been able to get usb tether working on.
i also notice the creater andrizoid has been disabled on the forums. i hope someone could shed some light on this for me.
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Think there was Warez in his release.
Ya lame right? Think it was Swype(that ****ty worthless keyboard)

Interesting. Ive never even looked that that keyboard.
so otherwise the rom is safe to use?
any one know where a change log could be found?

john10101 said:
I think this is what you call irony
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haha, yea that Jimmy guy was trolling Blackdroid's UD 2.0 thread hardcore the other day.
He was acting like a little ***** and doesn't even know what BD did and nothing affected him. He is just another dumb noob Oh well I am so sad I am on his ignore list

now that my thread is completely derailed. let me try to bring it back on track.
is this rom otherwise save to use? is there a place where i can find a change log? is there a forum?
i dont necessarily need this rom, but i need usb tether, and no other roms i have tried work. so i feel stuck to it right now. maybe i just wont upgrade it.

Yes, the rom is completely safe to use.
the creator of the rom was using another roms framework without permission, so this is why he was shut down. i was running newguy 6 for a few days and it ran great, but have since switched to warm 2.2, the rom that newguy is based off of.

use this rom instead - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809985
It wasn't just because of swype, some people need to read up a bit more before posting incorrect information. He was using framework, from a different rom, and passing it off as his own, not giving credit, etc...
The rom i posted above is much better, you will be happy with that one.

kevin217 said:
Yes, the rom is completely safe to use.
the creator of the rom was using another roms framework without permission, so this is why he was shut down. i was running newguy 6 for a few days and it ran great, but have since switched to warm 2.2, the rom that newguy is based off of.
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he wasn't using warm's framework, he was using the whole rom as his. but anyway, if you want to use the real deal, flash warm two point two rls3. this rom kills all past warm rls and "the lame guy"......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809985
my bad goos3y, you must of posted as i was posting....

im glad i asked, i will check out this rom. is it available on rom manager? or do i have to do it manually?

john10101 said:
im glad i asked, i will check out this rom. is it available on rom manager? or do i have to do it manually?
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manually is always best, rom manager has been sucking it for a while know. make sure you completly wipe everything. people have been reporting BS bugs because they don't wipe....

im lazy i like rom manager... all well. ok ill play with this rom over the weekend.

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Stoney 666 said:
manually is always best, rom manager has been sucking it for a while know. make sure you completly wipe everything. people have been reporting BS bugs because they don't wipe....
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I can definitely vouch for Myn's Warm rom. And to be specific, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo RLS 3 rom is not available in rom manager.
"The New Guy" rom developer broke the rules on many different fronts and has since been banned by the senior members who built this community.
It would be greatly beneficial for you to research and learn how to use the recovery mode of your phone to manually install roms. You're already rooted, so if you haven't already, spend the 6 bucks for Titanium backup pro and Root Explorer, they are worthy investments.
Always read the rom developers full original post (OP) before installing roms.
Most will tell you that you need to wipe 3 things prior to installing a new rom:
1)Wipe data/Factory reset
2)Wipe cache
3)Wipe the Dalvik cache
Some devs will tell you that you do not need to do all steps if you are upgrading the same rom, but again, read the OP to be sure.
I hope this helps. Good luck my friend.

Im pretty familiar with the process. but im also lazy. and my laziness usually wins. thanks for the help, ill check out this rom.

so i have checked out the suggested rom. seems to work well, but im back to having usb tether not work. ive tried quite a few roms, and the only one that works is the newguy 5
i really dont understand how no one else is having this issue. what could be different between these roms?
when i plug my phone into usb, and select mobile broadband connect, i get something called "android phone" as an unknown device. the modem hardware does not show up at all. any suggestions?

Flash 10.1 will not install on NewGuy 6

not to go crazy off track again, but i believe he said that his rom was based off myns. there were obviously a lot of changes made to it-your example about usb tethering working on it and not on myns. its like building a rom based off the htc release and saying that you didnt actually do anything with it, all roms start somewhere. the actual reason it got deleted though was beacuse of swype, using other roms as a base is in no way against the rules. rebranding a rom-which isnt what he did-is.
just my two cents. stoney go ahead and freak out on me, we all know how much of a myn follower you are, which is fine. but stop trash talking our devs, things like that drive people away from our community. ive seen quite a few threads pop up about the bullying and unnecessary asshole behavior thats been going on lately. if you dont like the rom, dont use it. nobody is asking you to, but that doesnt give you a reason to trash talk it.
i personally am building a rom based off nils business sense-its the closest i could find to the stock latest htc release-im on ubuntu and cant use the ruu-but ill be incorporating a lot of the theme and overall feel of tng, plus a few of the features he added. if your looking for something that feels similar to tng, keep yur eyes on the boards for the next few weeks,

RLeeA said:
Flash 10.1 will not install on NewGuy 6
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oh and i think thats because he already baked in the modded flash for hulu, but im not positive.

I think The New Guy 6 is Great ... just was wondering why "Flash 10.1 won't install and "Hulu app" also will not work....

RLeeA said:
I think The New Guy 6 is Great ... just was wondering why "Flash 10.1 won't install and "Hulu app" also will not work....
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i think he used the wrong flash. i had to through a different one one before i got it to work. i think he mentioned it just before the thread was removed.

I'm trying to install the "Flash 10.1" from the Market, but to no avail

Defy got CM7 Port

These phones ARE NOT THAT DIFFERENT!
The Defy now has cm7 ported, and I'm just wondering how this can be fixed to work with the Bravo, or if it would even be possible. These phones are the same except for (what I've heard) 1) The carrier and 2) The different cameras
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654

They are very close to the same. Almost identical but the keyword is ALMOST. Until we can find away of getting the bootloader cracked or bypass the bootloader. We will have to wait. Bandroidx is working hard on his oc and custom recovery. The customer recovery is one of the first steps. We just need some more devs.
I am studying the x10 way of bypassing the bootloader and creating custom what you would call mirrors of roms. "were you find a nearly identical hardware take their custom rom change around alot of the interenal apks and settings to make it work. Usually this leads to problems that become even more of a headache. ( camera doesnt work, wifi doesnt work, gps doesnt work, etc).
Give it time. Hopefully I will get some free time to sit down and compare the 2 system dumps. Defy and Bravo and see how hard this is actually going to be.

zax10 said:
They are very close to the same. Almost identical but the keyword is ALMOST. Until we can find away of getting the bootloader cracked or bypass the bootloader. We will have to wait. Bandroidx is working hard on his oc and custom recovery. The customer recovery is one of the first steps. We just need some more devs.
I am studying the x10 way of bypassing the bootloader and creating custom what you would call mirrors of roms. "were you find a nearly identical hardware take their custom rom change around alot of the interenal apks and settings to make it work. Usually this leads to problems that become even more of a headache. ( camera doesnt work, wifi doesnt work, gps doesnt work, etc).
Give it time. Hopefully I will get some free time to sit down and compare the 2 system dumps. Defy and Bravo and see how hard this is actually going to be.
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Hopefully not very hard. The Defy used 2nd-init to get Cyanogen running on it. Locked bootloaders prevent kernals (correct me?) and not custom ROMS if using CWM. Hopefully we can make a halfway working port. I might just wana try flashing this to the Bravo just for the hell of it. You never know, and we have SBF, and now NANDroid.

You are pretty jealous, or?
Sent from my Defy with CM7 and the XDA Premium App

AkkiandDefy said:
You are pretty jealous, or?
Sent from my Defy with CM7 and the XDA Premium App
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HECKKKK YEA I"M JEALOUS!!! LOL I should buy the guy a Bravo and give pay for him an AT&T plan.

You can try to flash it. The other provlem that we face is hardware differences between the 2 phones. It is not extremely hard to mirror the Rom. It is just knowing which files to move around and the code the important files for the bravo.
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BravoMotorola said:
HECKKKK YEA I"M JEALOUS!!! LOL I should buy the guy a Bravo and give pay for him an AT&T plan.
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If you mean Quarx, he don't need a AT&T plan. He lives in Russia.
Sent from my CM-7 Defy with XDA Premium

Poor Bravo Users... I can feel with you.
You now something we (DEFY) get MiUi to
Sent from my CM7 Defy using XDA App

Question for Defy+ owners

Hi there, well my second Defy is now close to death; hospital bills would be too much (to replace lcd, battery and the whole case) compared to the price I can find a new unit here [which is insanely low btw].
So that brings me with the following question: what should I ask the seller in order to make sure that I can install CM7 on it?
I mean, do I have to (how to) make sure the phone doesn't come with BL7 or something giving me headaches or a not fully functional CM7 later?
Would a screenshot of the bottom part of the "about phone" screen be enough for that? Or I am too worried and it will be fine no matter what OS is installed.
I'm sorry to ask such a noob questions, but it would be my first experience w a Defy+...
The seller says its phones come with routed 2.3.6 and strongly suggest not to delete any system apps or flash any custom roms...which is what makes me worried a little...
Anyhow, input would be greatly appreciated and Thank button will be hit...
Cheers,
/A

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So that brings me with the following question: what should I ask the seller in order to make sure that I can install CM7 on it?
I mean, do I have to (how to) make sure the phone doesn't come with BL7 or something giving me headaches or a not fully functional CM7 later?
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I've only had a Defy+ for a few weeks, and it's a BL7 model. I hit a hard learning curve coming from a Samsung Galaxy S, but in hindsight, BL7 is a really easy hurdle. Two SBF flashes and 2ndInit and you're done. Granted, I do not know if CM7 has its own quirks, but I used a rooted stock ROM for a while, and have settled in with the latest Slim, and both worked fine.
I wouldn't worry about what bootloader the phone you're looking at has.

groksteady said:
BL7 is a really easy hurdle. Two SBF flashes and 2ndInit and you're done. Granted, I do not know if CM7 has its own quirks...
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Thanks,
I've seen and read about rooting BL7 before and I knew that this shouldn't be too problematic, but it is the specific CM7 compatibility part that I"m worried about. I remember seeing users saying that their camera (or something else that I do nor remember atm) was not working properly w BL7+CM7.
Because aside from that, I can say that I know CM7's quirks very well, there aren't too many of them (compared to ICS/JB) and I can live with them very well ;-p

ah, gotcha. maybe I should look back to CM7, too. It's kinda hard to see the balance between stability and being up-to-date.
thanks, too, for posting that attachment. I guess that was from a Defy promotion somewhere?

I've finally ordered my third Defy (1st plus) and should receive it shortly.
Those phones are supposedly what they call a 14-days return (i.e.: most probably grabbed from a large company order that got sacked for a certain un-booking fee), they claim 99% new and with a 1yr-warranty on parts...
Moving to a bigger screen/more ram device was tempting, but at ~65US$, the old faithful Defy is is still a very hard to beat bang for the buck if you ask me... :good:
- Flash support
- easy PDroid implementation
- old DroidWall still running the show
- I personally prefer Gingerbread over new OS (for now anyway... the low-ram device friendly KK is tempting though...)
The previous pic was just taken from the seller's site I bought it from... yes from a Motorola 'Defy on the beach' promo-type party I guess
I really like the silver accents (on/off, volume, cover lock and screws - see pics) of this version... it will also prevent me from pressing by mistake the usb cover by mistake... which happen quite often with my all black 525s...
And oh! have you tried Framaroot with your plus? I've read that it even works for BL7 roms... No sbf flashing, no USB connection or even a computer needed; just one an apk to install and a couple clicks and it's done...
So all my worries from above should be fine now I guess...
Within 5 minutes of unpacking will be: charging, Framaroot, SndInit, nandroid the stock rom, CM7, tweak zips, setting up, TB restorations and good to go!... Hopefully... :fingers-crossed:
Cheers,
/AL
Long live the Defy!

framaroot
My Defy +BL7 flashed and rooted several times.
Since Framaroot even more easy.
Have fun!