Verizon mobile hotspot vs tethering via foxfi - Networking

Does anyone know or heard of anyone getting busted by verizon for tetherig without paying for it? I just upgraded to a galaxy s3 and I tether to my nexus 7 via foxfi. I noticed that it uses up quite a bit of bandwidth as I use it at work to stream videos. I used about 22gb in 2 weeks with my phone and nexus combined. I didn't want to get busted so I signed up for their hotspot plan which I get for $24 due to my discount and its unlimited (thank god). But with their hotspot app my phone gets extremely hot and sucks the battery super fast while foxfi runs very cool and I noticed that I watched a episode and a half of breaking bad and it only went down from 87% down to like 82% that really impressed me. So I cancelled my hotspot plan and just use foxfi instead do you guys think verizon will come after me if I tether like around 10-20gb a month? I don't want to lose unlimited but I don't want to use their crappy hotspot app either. I could pay for the hotspot service and use foxfi anyways so they won't get me for not being subscribed to a hotspot plan but It seems pointless to pay them and not use their app when I can do it on my own for free. Any advice???
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Verizon has no idea if you're tethering, no way to get caught. Use which ever app works best for you
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That makes me feel so much better I really want to believe you but I'm kind of paranoid I might just pay them for the right to use it and use foxfi anyways lol do you also tether with them?
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Verizon has no idea if you're tethering, no way to get caught. Use which ever app works best for you
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Well I wouldn't say they have no idea... if you go from no data usage to 100 GB in a month I believe they would start to question, however you are most likely pretty safe.

I just subscribed to it just to play it safe now I can do whatever I want with no worries only 24$ extra
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About teathering- switching to verizon

I'm about to switch back to verizon for the better network and was wondering if teathering would worknthe same as on my sprint hero.. I know that a lot of verizon devices have a button to teather stock and they want you to pay crazy prices for their service..
If I root a droid x can I tether on the down low? ... Thanks for any help.
Yeah you can use wireless tether or barnacle wifi tether. I believe there is a mod for the stock tether app to use it for free but never bothered trying it as the two I mentioned work fine.
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Team Black Hat has a patch for the stock 3G WiFi App... Works perfectly.
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thanks guys big help, so if i get this right.. the same as sprint- verizon will have no idea if i am teathering or not..?
They might be able to guess by the amount of data you use, but I use insane amounts of data and have yet to receive any complaints or notices of excessive usage.
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If you wanna tether through your USB, pdanet works pretty well, though I think it's more hassle than a WiFi tether.

Three {uk} all you can eat tethering

So with all you can eat data they don't allow you to tether ..
There's the clockworkmod app that will make it work with USB tethering so they can't detect it .
But what about wifi hotspots. Is there an app for wifi hot spots so that they can't detect it ?
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italia0101 said:
So with all you can eat data they don't allow you to tether ..
There's the clockworkmod app that will make it work with USB tethering so they can't detect it .
But what about wifi hotspots. Is there an app for wifi hot spots so that they can't detect it ?
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I tether on my three all you can eat although I don't know if they have changed the terms since I signed up one year ago.
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Three doesn't say no tethering, that's what's good about uk carriers
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It does . Go on sim only on the website and click any data plan with all you can eat except the one plan ...
At the bottom it says tethering not allowed
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italia0101 said:
It does . Go on sim only on the website and click any data plan with all you can eat except the one plan ...
At the bottom it says tethering not allowed
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Hmm so it does, well I tether all the time and have never had any problems
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Hm well that's interesting, I wonder if its because you already had the contract before they changed it or something...
Some say that when they try and tether they get redirected to a web page where it says tethering not allowed
italia0101 said:
Hm well that's interesting, I wonder if its because you already had the contract before they changed it or something...
Some say that when they try and tether they get redirected to a web page where it says tethering not allowed
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I just turn tethering on and it works, but I'm on all in one 10 so maybe they don't care so much
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DarkhShadow said:
I just turn tethering on and it works, but I'm on all in one 10 so maybe they don't care so much
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I'm on a contract also rather than PAYG so may be the reason.
Any updates on this?
I'm on a 2GB a month plan, for £5, but can switch to all-you-can-eat for £3 a month, be he was banging on about no use on a laptop as modem. Surely if the phone is doing the tethering, how would they know?
Has anyone done the switch recently? I have a Galaxy S2, but I'm sure this is irrelevant for this topic.
Cheers,
Carl.
Yea I changed to three all you can eat ... I tried tethering and it worked for my tab and PC.... maybe its just lucky sometimes and unlucky others ...
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italia0101 said:
Yea I changed to three all you can eat ... I tried tethering and it worked for my tab and PC.... maybe its just lucky sometimes and unlucky others ...
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Maybe it only detects it if you use more than one device connected via tethering? Brave enough to test it?
I've had my three contract since around April. Was tethering fine until about 3 weeks ago when I was presented with the said "no tethering allowed" web page!!! :crying:
I'm very interested in this thread.
If I insert the sim on a usb 3g stick and plug it to the PC is it also considerated as tethering?
And 3G wifi routers?
USB tethering with any special aplication is undetectable?
I have three contracts on the one plan and all work fine for tethering all part of the plan. My daughters boyfriend has a normal all you can eat data plan, if he tries to tether via a laptop or pc he gets the message, yet if he tethers via an android tablet he doesn't get it and can use as much data as he wants.
Has anyone managed to get anywhere with this?, I'm paying £5 extra for tethering but they limit me to 1GB per month even though I have an all-you-can-eat data plan!.
I want to use the same 3G connection for my PC as I do for the phone so they can't see what I'm up to and can use more than 1GB without getting rumbled.
Do you think they're using port numbers (e.g. 8080) to see if it's a PC or an android device?
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I've hit the same problem, tried loads of apps and the best I can get is a browser window telling me off
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Safest way to tether without a plan on T Mo?

Id like to tether on the Nexus 4 rarely, but it might use a chunk of data. Is there a way to do so without them detecting it? I know a lot of people frown upon asking these questions, but id like to know
Thank you!
Haha! It probably is going to be very difficult without actually hacking into their servers. And once you are caught I doubt the trouble you would get if you get caught will be fun. So in short, maybe if you are a 1337 h4x0r.
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shadehh said:
Haha! It probably is going to be very difficult without actually hacking into their servers. And once you are caught I doubt the trouble you would get if you get caught will be fun. So in short, maybe if you are a 1337 h4x0r.
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So the tethering apps cant spoof the traffic to look like its mobile?
They detect you by sniffing for your browser "User Agent".
1) Use an encrypted VPN tunnel as your default gateway.
2) Use HTTPS URL's
3) Change your browser User Agent
Are 3 ideas that come to mind.
Easy? I'd you enable wireless hotspot under data, it works great! I use it sometimes, never had issues. I had a family emergency last week and my mom literally had to fly to Russia same day we found something out. Long story short I ended up driving to her house and helping her with everything. She had to unlock her iPhone 5 on sprint so that she could get a Sim over there temporarily.
Reset the iPhone and we had to leave to the airport. Since I cloud doesn't do anything over mobile network, I had to make my nexus into a hotspot while we drove, besides tmo is like 100x faster than sprint. Anyway, all was well, at the the end of the day my data usage shows 2gb worth of data, no problems.
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Vpnbook.com if you're lazy
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I really don't think T-mobile cares as much as you are thinking. I use my phone to tether to my xbox and tablet quite a lot since my wifi sucks, and they haven't said anything. I think it might be that they don't monitor prepaid plans as closely, but what's the worst that could happen?
Without a data plan or without a tethering plan? There are ways to tether without a tethering plan such as VPN.
What if I connected my phone to my home VPN and funneled all traffic through there?
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yesterday i found new galaxy s3 ))))))))
If you don't overdo it, T-Mobile won't bug you.
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faters said:
yesterday i found new galaxy s3 ))))))))
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T-mobile can tell that I am tethering?

Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
jtseidner said:
Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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I've tethered plenty of times on Tmobile with no issues, don't even bother to change the useragent on my browser when I do. Sounds like you've been doing it either very frequently or using excessive bandwidth and they caught on to you. Knowing it's a service they charge extra for you coulda been more careful .
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I've tethered plenty of times on Tmobile with no issues, don't even bother to change the useragent on my browser when I do. Sounds like you've been doing it either very frequently or using excessive bandwidth and they caught on to you. Knowing it's a service they charge extra for you coulda been more careful .
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That's kinda crazy! I just checked my bill and I used 5 gigs last month and 1.6 so far this billing cycle. Doesnt seem to extreme to me!
How much of that usage was tethering?
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Got a text message that I have been blocked from using wifi tether. On a fully unlimited plan with t-mobile. I realize that normally you have to pay for wifi tether, but I am on CM10.1 so I didn't think they would be able to tell? I had Verizon in the past with wifi tether on my Galaxy Nexus and used it a lot without a problem. Is t-mobile more strict or what?
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Oh yeah they can tell. I got a push text (not a normal one) on my cm10.1 yelling at me about tethering, only after 30 seconds of viewing a webpage. I was able to use my hidemyass vpn and not a peep.
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How much of that usage was tethering?
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According to Data Usage in Settings (I assume it is all reported under Tethering and portable hot spot? Or does it also report as browser?):
This month: 140MB
Last month: 334MB
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According to Data Usage in Settings (I assume it is all reported under Tethering and portable hot spot? Or does it also report as browser?):
This month: 140MB
Last month: 334MB
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I'm wondering with the 500mb of tethering included with unlimited if they are going to be doing good less random checks. Have you thought about switching to or making sure your on the new plan?
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I'm wondering with the 500mb of tethering included with unlimited if they are going to be doing good less random checks. Have you thought about switching to or making sure your on the new plan?
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I just signed a 2 year contract so I dont think I can change plans I signed to get the free nexus 4 promo
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I just signed a 2 year contract so I dont think I can change plans I signed to get the free nexus 4 promo
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Use a vpn tmobile packet sniffs your browsers user agent so say chrome for Windows pops up on their tower that's how they find out
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Change your browser's "User Agent" (addon/plugin) to android or some other mobile device. That way, Tmo will think you're using data on your mobile and you won't get flagged for hotspot tethering.
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Change your browser's "User Agent" (addon/plugin) to android or some other mobile device. That way, Tmo will think you're using data on your mobile and you won't get flagged for hotspot tethering.
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Thanks guys, I've installed an add on to Chrome on my desktop and changed by user agent to Chrome/Nexus 4. Tested it out on a wired connection and most web sites seem to be going to the mobile version, so I think it is working.
However, it looks like as I was experimenting trying to get around the block, they have completely disabled tether all together. Got another text that said wifi tether was been blocked. I can connect, but before I was at least getting a t-moble splash page. Now I get no internet connection at all. Hopefully they re-enable in a few days or by next billing cycle.
Are you using an app to tether or built in method
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BrianDigital said:
Are you using an app to tether or built in method
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I tried both WiFi tether apk and built in
Does anyone know if Koush's tether app gets around this?
And what about using a VPN, is that a solid solution?
nak1017 said:
Does anyone know if Koush's tether app gets around this?
And what about using a VPN, is that a solid solution?
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It should be or it could be my luck, my idea is. If tmobile can't see your packets then they can't tell what you're doing
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Will Sprint limit me?

Had anyone suffered consequences for using data to much? Ever since I got my s4 I've been using 4g all the time listening to music from Google music Netflix etc. Last month I did about 10gb it's only been like 5 days on this month cycle and I'm already at 5.5gb so was wondering if I can see consequences or will I be good? Reason I have so much use is that I don't ever turn on my Wi-Fi since I have 4g I just leave it as is...in case you're wondering.
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Nope you are fine.
Unless you're roaming a lot, they will not say a thing. I was using far more than that this summer via the hotspot mod wireless tether, and they never bothered me about it.
nope thats the benefit of having sprint
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Ok thanks guys
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Like the above posters said you should be ok. I do know someone that was booted from sprint entirely for too much data used while roaming, lol. They get a little upset about that for sure.

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