god... I needed an LTE tablet... but this was the wrong one.
Verizon and Samsung... the 2 worst companies when wanting a software update for your device.
Anyone even gotten a straight answer from Samsung or Verizon that our SCH-I905 would be included in the July/August time frame for an ICS upgrade?
If I would have only bought the Xoom like I originally wanted.
Meh . . what can we do?
Paying termination fees to jump to Xoom now would just be a waste of money considering the fact that hardware wise it's not much of an upgrade if any.
The sad thing is there aren't any better android tablets on the horizon for release on any carrier networks with LTE built in. The latest iPad is going to have a lock on that market for the next year it seems, which is a shame.
evilz51 said:
god... I needed an LTE tablet... but this was the wrong one.
Verizon and Samsung... the 2 worst companies when wanting a software update for your device.
Anyone even gotten a straight answer from Samsung or Verizon that our SCH-I905 would be included in the July/August time frame for an ICS upgrade?
If I would have only bought the Xoom like I originally wanted.
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Put a custom ICS ROM on it
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muzzy996 said:
Meh . . what can we do?
Paying termination fees to jump to Xoom now would just be a waste of money considering the fact that hardware wise it's not much of an upgrade if any.
The sad thing is there aren't any better android tablets on the horizon for release on any carrier networks with LTE built in. The latest iPad is going to have a lock on that market for the next year it seems, which is a shame.
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yea its a real damn shame these tablet manufacturers are going this route.. I really dont know what the hell is wrong with them. Someone needs to make a tablet with an interchangeable WWLAN modem.
bostonbassman78 said:
Put a custom ICS ROM on it
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show me one that supports my LTE modem... please... pretty please... pretty pretty please with a cherry on top.
I bought an LTE tablet because I NEEDED an LTE tablet...
evilz51 said:
yea its a real damn shame these tablet manufacturers are going this route.. I really dont know what the hell is wrong with them. Someone needs to make a tablet with an interchangeable WWLAN modem.
show me one that supports my LTE modem... please... pretty please... pretty pretty please with a cherry on top.
I bought an LTE tablet because I NEEDED an LTE tablet...
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I'm sure there is one in here somewhere for your tablet
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I'm sure there is one in here somewhere for your tablet
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nope.. just like there hasnt been one for the camera... the LTE modem driver is not something that is in the rom.
there are a few roms that will load on it... but none of them are fully functional
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yea its a real damn shame these tablet manufacturers are going this route.. I really dont know what the hell is wrong with them. Someone needs to make a tablet with an interchangeable WWLAN modem.
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It's not them, it's the carriers too.
Not sure if you caught Nilay Patel's editorial on the Verge a few weeks back but it certainly helped shed additional light on things we all already suspected for a long time.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/5/31...re-the-biggest-threat-to-innovation-editorial
Manufacturers just don't want to have to deal with the carriers for these things if they're not going to sell well. At this point I'm starting to consider myself lucky to even have a 10-inch android tablet with LTE built in.
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He's right, there is no custom ROM available for the GT 10.1 that has the LTE modem drivers baked in.
muzzy996 said:
It's not them, it's the carriers too.
Not sure if you caught Nilay Patel's editorial on the Verge a few weeks back but it certainly helped shed additional light on things we all already suspected for a long time.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/5/31...re-the-biggest-threat-to-innovation-editorial
Manufacturers just don't want to have to deal with the carriers for these things if they're not going to sell well. At this point I'm starting to consider myself lucky to even have a 10-inch android tablet with LTE built in.
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He's right, there is no custom ROM available for the GT 10.1 that has the LTE modem drivers baked in.
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well the biggest thing is the manufacturers need to modularize their devices, and have the carriers sell the modem portion. this would make 100% sense...
The SCH-i905 is going to be updated, (http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755) just not sure when. The HC 3.2 update took about 4 months longer for Verizon to roll out the update.
The support is minimal, but to be honest I still love this tab. Even with HC 3.2. I do a lot of travel, and it is so great to be able to grab e-mails, access dropbox, search for restaurants and check the maps, and access websites when in the middle of nowhere. There may come a time when the country is blanketed in wifi access points, but until then the LTE tab is great.
Hopefully ICS makes it even better, but I really don't have any issues with HC 3.2 at the moment.
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The SCH-i905 is going to be updated, (http://www.samsung.com/us/support/SupportOwnersFAQPopup.do?faq_id=FAQ00046726&fm_seq=49755) just not sure when. The HC 3.2 update took about 4 months longer for Verizon to roll out the update.
The support is minimal, but to be honest I still love this tab. Even with HC 3.2. I do a lot of travel, and it is so great to be able to grab e-mails, access dropbox, search for restaurants and check the maps, and access websites when in the middle of nowhere. There may come a time when the country is blanketed in wifi access points, but until then the LTE tab is great.
Hopefully ICS makes it even better, but I really don't have any issues with HC 3.2 at the moment.
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The biggest issues I have are that..
a) VZW lied to me and told me their online documentation was wrong and the tab would ship to me with ICS..
b) My company has a few custom written apk's that only work on ICS apparently...
c) I hate the fact that they have taken so long to release the base update, but then we have to wait for verizon to get off their lazy ass and push it.
I will never buy another verizon product for myself. I am going to have to go to one of the ****ty GSM providers just to ensure I can get support like I need it from now on.
Does anyone hear the waaaaaaambulance?
*rimshot*
(Just kidding. I realize there is great value to the XDA community in these why-oh-why-don't-I-have-android-version-X.X-yet threads. Sorry for wasting space in your personal complaint forum)
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Does anyone hear the waaaaaaambulance?
*rimshot*
(Just kidding. I realize there is great value to the XDA community in these why-oh-why-don't-I-have-android-version-X.X-yet threads. Sorry for wasting space in your personal complaint forum)
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no there is surely a waaaaaaaambulance here no doubt
and i am not even complaining to the XDA community, more just complaining in general about Samsung. i really will never buy another Samsung device, or another Verizon device. Between the two you are just screwed if you need an update.
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no there is surely a waaaaaaaambulance here no doubt
and i am not even complaining to the XDA community, more just complaining in general about Samsung. i really will never buy another Samsung device, or another Verizon device. Between the two you are just screwed if you need an update.
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Good to know that someone somewhere is not please with a company to whom most of us have nothing to do or no link besides being costumer of...
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Good to know that someone somewhere is not please with a company to whom most of us have nothing to do or no link besides being costumer of...
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Ok...but if i dont need the lte and want to bring my sch i905 up to ICS what are my options.
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I'll just try this instead
http://www.teamandroid.com/2012/08/...tab-101-sch-i905-android-411-aosp-jelly-bean/
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evilz51 said:
no there is surely a waaaaaaaambulance here no doubt
and i am not even complaining to the XDA community, more just complaining in general about Samsung. i really will never buy another Samsung device, or another Verizon device. Between the two you are just screwed if you need an update.
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Then call them, write them emails, pr go stop by their houses with a basket of fruit and complain there. But please please please don't start any more threads that have no purpose or value to XDA besides complaining about your (frankly, very very small) issue.
BTW- Just get a portable hotspot and a wifi tab if you absolutely must have a GT10 with hacked firmware. Honestly, I don't understand why anyone would pay for internet for just a single device anyways; not to mention that the 3g/4g variants of most tablets are way less common than wifi-only versions (so they get a lot less development).
Exactly! You'd be most likely winner if you'd upgrade your data plan on your phone and use it as a WiFi HotSpot
Question... A few posts up I posted a link to JB for SCH I905... In the link the author post a screen shot from the "about device" screen. The device is a P7500 or something... But not SCH I905. Can
Jb or ICS be installed on SCH I905. Searching doesn't provide a clear answer and I don't want to use the trial and error method.
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evilz51 said:
god... I needed an LTE tablet... but this was the wrong one.
Verizon and Samsung... the 2 worst companies when wanting a software update for your device.
Anyone even gotten a straight answer from Samsung or Verizon that our SCH-I905 would be included in the July/August time frame for an ICS upgrade?
If I would have only bought the Xoom like I originally wanted.
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Why would Xoom be any better? Still a Verizon device.
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Question... A few posts up I posted a link to JB for SCH I905... In the link the author post a screen shot from the "about device" screen. The device is a P7500 or something... But not SCH I905. Can
Jb or ICS be installed on SCH I905. Searching doesn't provide a clear answer and I don't want to use the trial and error method.
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What you're going to want to keep an eye on is the builds that pershoot is posting up on http://droidbasement.com/db-blog/ . You'll want the p4vzw variants. All the instructions should be there to read.
CM9 is ICS based, CM10 is JB based.
Just be sure you're on the right CWM version and you make adequate backups before you flash.
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Why would Xoom be any better? Still a Verizon device.
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Not sure but I believe he's mentioning xoom because developers for that device managed to get the modem working in their ICS builds.
Related
Is the LG Ally seriously getting a froyo update before the fascinate. Yet another reason why I hate Samsung & Verizon
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-ally-about-get-froyo-update
You can rant with frustration & disappointment below. lol.
I gave up on samsung updating us a while ago. I know this doesn't mean much, but I was at a verizon store the other day so for the hell of it I asked when we were getting our froyo update. He blatantly said "you're not getting it." At least I know I can count on the awesome devs to unleash the true potential of this phone. Thank you kaos, jt, birdman, geeknik, adrynalyne, sonofskywalker, and anyone else I forgot. You guys are awesome
EDIT: I forgot....THANK YOU IVORY for donating the fascinate to kaos!!
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halfcourtshoes said:
Is the LG Ally seriously getting a froyo update before the fascinate. Yet another reason why I hate Samsung & Verizon
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-ally-about-get-froyo-update
You can rant with frustration & disappointment below. lol.
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Not sure why you mention Verizon, since they're the ones pushing the LG update. Shouldn't is just be Samsung?
I can only keep a poker face so long....the recent cd rom bug is pushing me over the edge.
adrynalyne said:
I can only keep a poker face so long....the recent cd rom bug is pushing me over the edge.
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I'm thinking I'm glad I'm standing pat on... umm... whatever the hell was before DL09... DJ05?
I just picked up my morning coffee.
The Ally was released in May, they have been waiting a lot longer...
(Though some of the other US SGS phones were released in June.)
Well, some of them were promised 2.0 and their updates stopped at 1.6.
"Enhanced browser performance for faster loading of Java Script pages. Note: Adobe Flash browsing will not be supported on this device"
Did you guys MISS that line ???? No Flash browser, might as well not be 2.2....
Yes, we totally are kidding!
Verizon released Froyo for the Fascinate yesterday, but they just won't give it to you. Why? We're not sure. Maybe you didn't pay your bill on time, or maybe they're prejudiced against people with {insert your hair color here} hair. They can be pretty capricious that way.
The rest of us are rocking it, but nobody has posted here about it because we all like keeping secrets and making you angry.
Toodles!
Samsung charges providers with the update, verizon does not want to pay for it since its open source. Therefor we wont see it unless samung gives it for free or someone here can make it happen. my bet is on XDA not Verizon. Next phone will be motorola seems they are happy in bed with verizon and get all the updates and fixes.
pvgomer said:
Samsung charges providers with the update, verizon does not want to pay for it since its open source. Therefor we wont see it unless samung gives it for free or someone here can make it happen. my bet is on XDA not Verizon. Next phone will be motorola seems they are happy in bed with verizon and get all the updates and fixes.
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Please don't spread rumors. There are enough in the blogosphere to do it for you.
pvgomer said:
Samsung charges providers with the update, verizon does not want to pay for it since its open source. Therefor we wont see it unless samung gives it for free or someone here can make it happen. my bet is on XDA not Verizon. Next phone will be motorola seems they are happy in bed with verizon and get all the updates and fixes.
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You hit this one right on the head! Sammy needs a lesson on what "open source" is. Although I think Verizon could be a little more vocal, in the end it all comes down to Sammy.
adrynalyne said:
I can only keep a poker face so long....the recent cd rom bug is pushing me over the edge.
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Agreed and there web site is down so I can't download the media recovery and was unable to find the toolboot exe
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pvgomer said:
Samsung charges providers with the update, verizon does not want to pay for it since its open source. Therefor we wont see it unless samung gives it for free or someone here can make it happen. my bet is on XDA not Verizon. Next phone will be motorola seems they are happy in bed with verizon and get all the updates and fixes.
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Please don't perpetuate unverified rumors.
mexiken said:
"Enhanced browser performance for faster loading of Java Script pages. Note: Adobe Flash browsing will not be supported on this device"
Did you guys MISS that line ???? No Flash browser, might as well not be 2.2....
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Actually, I would gladly take 2.2 without flash to get JIT and chrome to phone, not to mention some apps are coded to only work on newer versions.
gbmitchell said:
Actually, I would gladly take 2.2 without flash to get JIT and chrome to phone, not to mention some apps are coded to only work on newer versions.
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I would, but the majority of the tools and noobs in here only care about Flash. I'm actually most excited about JIT and the ability to upgrade integrated apps independent of software updates (like Gmail for example)
adrynalyne said:
I can only keep a poker face so long....the recent cd rom bug is pushing me over the edge.
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Really? Don't leave us Adrynalyne. It's making me mad too. I was forced to update to DL09 since I got my phone replaced today, and I went back to DJ05. And then the CD bug happened. It's such an awesome phone, crippled by poor carrier/manufacturer support.
Im not leaving...its just the OCD in me kills me on things like this.
We got it resolved yesterday, anyway.
I'm new to this forum and still trying to find my way around it, so could you point me in the direction of the usb situation fix please? Thank you.
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YAY!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/...-devices-may-get-app-sideloading-as-early-as/
Not the atrix :/
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know what else brings it to the atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
Techcruncher said:
YAY!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/...-devices-may-get-app-sideloading-as-early-as/
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Why are you posting this in the Atrix forums???
Doesn't mention the Atrix anywhere!!!
People here are just so touchy o:
It states that the first three devices are the Captivate and those others, and says that "select" devices will receive the update. I see no good reason why the Atrix would not be a "select" device, being that it's still one of AT&T's major Android phones. Just be patient.
dLo GSR said:
know what else brings it to the atrix?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016060
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To that point, I have 0 3rd party apps that dont need rooting also anyway.
blindguyinanorgy said:
To that point, I have 0 3rd party apps that dont need rooting also anyway.
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well, if you want to enable sideloading right now, you have to root. =P
CaelanT said:
Why are you posting this in the Atrix forums???
Doesn't mention the Atrix anywhere!!!
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For pre-emptive complaining of course!
KefkaticFanatic said:
People here are just so touchy o:
It states that the first three devices are the Captivate and those others, and says that "select" devices will receive the update. I see no good reason why the Atrix would not be a "select" device, being that it's still one of AT&T's major Android phones. Just be patient.
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Not touchy. The OP is saying after reading this article that the Atrix is one of the phones. It is not mentioned anywhere in the article. Nobody is being touchy. People just need to stop posting "assumed" crap and post facts. Other people need to stop assuming that the assumptions are correct and posting not one iota of supporting evidence.
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In retrospect, you're probably right. Sorry about that. At least there's some news of hope on the horizon ^.^
I suggest rereading that immense topic and post totally a whopping 6 words. I don't see "Atrix" anywhere
He's simply sharing an article showing that AT&T is becoming more open, which may mean a future update for the Atrix, and, while a bit far fetched, potentially even hints at them allowing a bootloader unlock.
KefkaticFanatic said:
I suggest rereading that immense topic and post totally a whopping 6 words. I don't see "Atrix" anywhere
He's simply sharing an article showing that AT&T is becoming more open, which may mean a future update for the Atrix, and, while a bit far fetched, potentially even hints at them allowing a bootloader unlock.
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I was glad to see someone not let their anger at AT&T fly back at the OP so they update some of their older phones that are probably easier to do at this point. This is obviously a sign that they have realized they cant treat us like Apple does. If we really want open phones we can and will have them. So they are going to just give them too us open. It will probably cut down on warranty claims from stupid people doing shoddy jobs of rooting and flashing their phones. Im sure motorola wont leave us hanging theyve taken good care of me so far. so just be patient.
Why should I care if At&t enables side loading, we have a hack for it. Is At&t taking a page from Apple, "were adding something users already figured out how to do, we initiative!!"
sifon187 said:
Why should I care if At&t enables side loading, we have a hack for it. Is At&t taking a page from Apple, "were adding something users already figured out how to do, we initiative!!"
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Zing!
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I love hacking, Don't get me wrong, But I'm not going to risk being stuck on Froyo cause I deleted some important file, or have to panic about the sbf. official updates are official for a reason.
This thing cost me 250$... Not gonna risk it :S
Has anyone actually gotten the update via OTA on one of these devices?
billd104 said:
Has anyone actually gotten the update via OTA on one of these devices?
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I manually ran the OTA update for my wife's HTC Aria this morning. No joy. It just searched for what seemed like 10 minutes before I quit it.
Techcruncher said:
I love hacking, Don't get me wrong, But I'm not going to risk being stuck on Froyo cause I deleted some important file, or have to panic about the sbf. official updates are official for a reason.
This thing cost me 250$... Not gonna risk it :S
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Um, you can't get stuck on FroYo for rooting. If you deodex/install a P-ROM, you'll have to flash back to stock, however.
I haven't seen anyone get completely bricked by modding the Atrix. There's almost no risk if you understand what you're doing currently. It's not like the Captivate where you might get the black screen of death and have to make a jig.
Considering the extensive testing that AT&T requires before allowing firmware updates to be released, along with the fact that 4.1.83 was literally just released, its not surprising to see the Atrix not on the list.
I also agree with the bootloader thing, if AT&T was the reason it was locked, Motorola now has some incentive to unlock it. Not that they definitely would though, as other motorola devices on other carriers show.
UPDATE:
New article with word that the Atrix will be updated as well.
I believe the current one is coming from google/motorola, but that's the wifi only model.
I have the 4G model, and afaik verizon would be releasing it, because it has their reputation/name on it
I also know this is a 'GED' device, so google supports it
so who would it be that would deliver ICS?
because if it's verizon, I don't think the 4G guys are getting it this month, but if it's google/motorola, I assume it can be within a week or so...
Chances are, it has to pass through Verizon for rigorous testing before being delivered OTA to thousands of users.
razorseal said:
I believe the current one is coming from google/motorola, but that's the wifi only model.
I have the 4G model, and afaik verizon would be releasing it, because it has their reputation/name on it
I also know this is a 'GED' device, so google supports it
so who would it be that would deliver ICS?
because if it's verizon, I don't think the 4G guys are getting it this month, but if it's google/motorola, I assume it can be within a week or so...
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It will come from Google. Verizon will sign off on it, but it will come from Google. There seems to be a misconception around here that only the WiFi Xoom is a Google Experience Device (GED). Not true - the 3G/4G Xoom is as well. All updates have come from Google.
dwboston said:
It will come from Google. Verizon will sign off on it, but it will come from Google. There seems to be a misconception around here that only the WiFi Xoom is a Google Experience Device (GED). Not true - the 3G/4G Xoom is as well. All updates have come from Google.
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That's what I originally thought, as well, but, I was told only the wifi version is a GED earlier today. It was my understanding that all US versions of the Xoom were GED. If so, then maybe there's hope we'll see it sooner rather than later. After all, they have to do a soak test, right?
SamuriHL said:
That's what I originally thought, as well, but, I was told only the wifi version is a GED earlier today. It was my understanding that all US versions of the Xoom were GED. If so, then maybe there's hope we'll see it sooner rather than later. After all, they have to do a soak test, right?
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All US versions of the Xoom are GEDs. If they weren't, Moto would have been able to use a custom kernel to enable full SD card access, like they did with Xooms in other countries. I'm not sure where the misinformation came from that only the WiFi Xoom is a GED. That's not the case.
dwboston said:
All US versions of the Xoom are GEDs. If they weren't, Moto would have been able to use a custom kernel to enable full SD card access, like they did with Xooms in other countries. I'm not sure where the misinformation came from that only the WiFi Xoom is a GED. That's not the case.
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That is what I originally thought until I was told different. Thank you for confirming that!
So it won't be long before us 4g guys get it too. Unless Verizon had to test it out before signing off on it...
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Let's hope so. Although I'm now running team EOS nightlies and have to say I may just stick with this. It's quite amazing. I'll install the official release once it's out there but I'm likely going to keep this.
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So it won't be long before us 4g guys get it too. Unless Verizon had to test it out before signing off on it...
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Verizon does have to OK it
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Verizon does have to OK it
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Yea....we're screwed then. Maybe June or September. LOL!
SamuriHL said:
Yea....we're screwed then. Maybe June or September. LOL!
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No we're not. How quickly people forget that the VZW Xoom was first to receive the 3.1 update. VZW generally turns these GED updates around reasonably quickly.
dwboston said:
No we're not. How quickly people forget that the VZW Xoom was first to receive the 3.1 update. VZW generally turns these GED updates around reasonably quickly.
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I know. I'm just being highly sarcastic. Let's hope we see it in the next week or so. Of course, it'll likely get released while I'm traveling for work next week. Guess I'll throw the dev tools on my work laptop...."just in case". I really do hope we see the official update soon. Would like to compare it to the AOSP roms.
Apparently its not as easy as we thought ;-)
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Clearly. Somehow I get the feeling we won't be seeing it for a while.
SamuriHL said:
Yea....we're screwed then. Maybe June or September. LOL!
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Screwed? Just use Team EOS rom. It's better than stock.
nubsors said:
Screwed? Just use Team EOS rom. It's better than stock.
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I do. And have been for a while now. I meant screwed on the official update and I was being sarcastic when I wrote that. Although....it's still not out yet. LOL! Anyway, yea, I love Team EOS. That rom ROCKS!
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Screwed? Just use Team EOS rom. It's better than stock.
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Really been holding out on that... There is no benefit in rooting my xoom right now besides eos ics.
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For the longest time I kept my Xoom stock. For a small while I put the tiamat rom on. But I eventually went back to Stock. With ICS, the advantage over stock HC is pretty immense and I wanted to make sure that what ever ROM I installed with ICS was fully functional. This is the primary reason I went with EOS. Their ROM is virtually fully functional. It also has additional functions like others have mentioned (OC, use of SD card, etc.) Anyway, this is one of those times where I really feel that the ROM developers have come through in a big way. The biggest bug I have found in one of the nightlies was the dictionary issue but that has since been resolved.
The way I look at it is this, with my 4G Xoom I either need to have the best ROM available or be fully stock, none of this in-between stuff.
just in case no one said it who cares !
nubsors said:
For the longest time I kept my Xoom stock. For a small while I put the tiamat rom on. But I eventually went back to Stock. With ICS, the advantage over stock HC is pretty immense and I wanted to make sure that what ever ROM I installed with ICS was fully functional. This is the primary reason I went with EOS. Their ROM is virtually fully functional. It also has additional functions like others have mentioned (OC, use of SD card, etc.) Anyway, this is one of those times where I really feel that the ROM developers have come through in a big way. The biggest bug I have found in one of the nightlies was the dictionary issue but that has since been resolved.
The way I look at it is this, with my 4G Xoom I either need to have the best ROM available or be fully stock, none of this in-between stuff.
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I guess I'll give it a go...
gonna take most of my night I think. I have no idea how adb operates. I remember using it once but that was a while ago on my atrix to unlock it
Just looking an international I9300 ROM development forum, and jealous :crying:, so many amazing custom ROMS like this , and this one, and here for my AT&T model is ...- 2 if you can even call it a "ROM's", -sad. I switched from international SII I9100 which had tons of custom ROMs to I747 for which a cant even download CallRec MOD.
LTE? - thanks, u can keep it! Anyone willing to trade international for I747 ?
The international has been out a bit longer. And you're always gonna see more dev work for an international phone. That's just the way it is. Be patient. It will come man.
Just wait a bit longer, theme section is making a lot progress on theme department, plus we got myn making rom for it too(Idk if you heard about his work but he has done some great things for evo) so is just matter of time, the phone been out for 2 weeks and I think it will be great device for routers and developers
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..AT&T with 2 ROMs, and Verizon with 0 ROMs - 2 most BIG time
Retarded sections ,.. unbelievable, - even to compare to T-Mobile and Sprint with at least 5 ROMs to choose.,
Willing to donate, but ...
Goo Sprint devs!
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Goo Sprint devs!
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Yup sprint developers are really good Verizon too but the problem now is Verizon is locked but I doubt it will be for long
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You had to start a new thread for this? Pretty lame. Since AT&T version just came out why don't you return it and buy the international version? Then you'll have nothing to complain about
I don't know how you expect there to be a bunch of roms out already. The phone was only available with a pre order, and was just released in stores today. Patience.
A wise man once said, "Settle down, Beavis".
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I don't know how you expect there to be a bunch of roms out already. The phone was only available with a pre order, and was just released in stores today. Patience.
A wise man once said, "Settle down, Beavis".
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Exactly, today is the launch day for AT&T. By my count there is 5 ROMs and a lot of devs who just mentioned they just got the phone. Patiences... amazing things are in the works... :highfive:
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You had to start a new thread for this? Pretty lame. Since AT&T version just came out why don't you return it and buy the international version? Then you'll have nothing to complain about
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Yes, why not?? I think i deserve one ,There is so many MUCH meaningless threads around, and i think this one is not a waist , + unfortunately i cant just "return it", so i offer my week old for exchange right in this thread
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Just looking an international I9300 ROM development forum, and jealous :crying:, so many amazing custom ROMS like this , and this one, and here for my AT&T model is ...- 2 if you can even call it a "ROM's", -sad. I switched from international SII I9100 which had tons of custom ROMs to I747 for which a cant even download CallRec MOD.
LTE? - thanks, u can keep it! Anyone willing to trade international for I747 ?
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Hope you drop your phone. Way to put down the devs on the att side. Take it back to the store and go get the international one.
edit: if you can't return it then sell it.
So you give reasons y the international ver is better and you expect to get a trade for your "inferior" version
This is bad marketing
Besides there will be plenty of toms in no time
Also I personally kepp my phone on stock for at least 2 weeks after getting the phone
Mostly just to see what Sammy expects normal people to deal with
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Honestly the stock Rom is running so good i haven't thought of flashing one yet. Heck good battery life has made me even not to root and debloat yet. But anyway i will root soon just to install adblock and tools like TB. My point is that during initial days of my previous phone which is SG1 there were so many issues like lag, gps, rfs file system etc etc which made flashing roms inevitable. But so far i am really enjoying stock software.
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Yes, why not?? I think i deserve one ,There is so many MUCH meaningless threads around, and i think this one is not a waist , + unfortunately i cant just "return it", so i offer my week old for exchange right in this thread
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List your phone one the XDA market place for sale or trade....someone will take it off your hands.
I see what you mean coming from a nexus on aokp and jelly bean back to touchwiz is a huge blah, but when roms are available this device will be amazing!! Just patiently sitting this through.
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I see what you mean coming from a nexus on aokp and jelly bean back to touchwiz is a huge blah, but when roms are available this device will be amazing!! Just patiently sitting this through.
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Locked bootloader
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I was actually thinking of trading my intetnational for the att variant. Then I remembered all the developement we have, I'm on MIUi right now. When the att version gets more I'll probably trade, should be soon!
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The phone became widely available in the US just a week ago. Give it some time.
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Different variants for the us and Canada also hurt and slow the initial development as well
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Every time I see people complaining about custom ROMs for the S3 (or any other phone) I get miffed.
Stop *****ing about what other people do or don't do for you. If you want a custom ROM that meets your needs, build one yourself or pay someone to do it.
The people who create these ROMs do so because they love doing it, not because it's their job (Though people do donate to them, I am sure they do not get what creating ROMs like this is really worth).
I see you're on Telus, well the Telus phone only came out 10 days ago, I know because I got one on the first day. How long do you think it takes to make a custom Android ROM for a phone? I have no idea, but I am sure there are hundreds of hours spent on creating each and every one.
Besides, did you get the S3 because of the custom ROMs available for it or because it is the best phone out there right now? This little beast can do things no other phone can dream of and you ***** about custom ROMs.
Ian
Just FYI, hopefully we are next... we will see..
Where did you get your information from because I just looked on a few credible sites like phonearena.com, androidauthority.com & androidpolice.com and I do not see any mention of Sprint Note 4 getting the official Lollipop update.
I know the T-Mobile Note 3 recently got the update. Maybe Sprint just got the update for the Note 3 as well.
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Where did you get your information from because I just looked on a few credible sites like phonearena.com, androidauthority.com & androidpolice.com and I do not see any mention of Sprint Note 4 getting the official Lollipop update.
I know the T-Mobile Note 3 recently got the update. Maybe Sprint just got the update for the Note 3 as well.
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Exactly how hard did you look?
http://m.androidcentral.com/sprint-starts-rolling-out-android-50-lollipop-its-samsung-galaxy-note-4
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Where did you get your information from because I just looked on a few credible sites like phonearena.com, androidauthority.com & androidpolice.com and I do not see any mention of Sprint Note 4 getting the official Lollipop update.
I know the T-Mobile Note 3 recently got the update. Maybe Sprint just got the update for the Note 3 as well.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-sprint/general/lollipop-t3046647
Wonder how hard it would be to port the ROM for T-Mobile. Kind of surprised we haven't seen any 5.0 ports yet.
Probably won't get ported, it'll be here before you know it now..
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Wonder how hard it would be to port the ROM for T-Mobile. Kind of surprised we haven't seen any 5.0 ports yet.
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At this point, a port isnt even necessary. By the time it was done, we'd have Official already. In the past, there have only been ports of international versions since they come so early.
Official T Mobile Lollipop shouldn't be too long off now.
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At this point, a port isnt even necessary. By the time it was done, we'd have Official already. In the past, there have only been ports of international versions since they come so early.
Official T Mobile Lollipop shouldn't be too long off now.
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Perhaps, but the tracking site on T-Mobile still shows the update in "Manufacture Development" So, it hasn't even started the T-Mobile testing process yet.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
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Perhaps, but the tracking site on T-Mobile still shows the update in "Manufacture Development" So, it hasn't even started the T-Mobile testing process yet.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
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I doubt that site is accurate.
That isn't that accurate. It says the Note 3 is still in testing and it dropped yesterday. I'm not sure how often they update the site.
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Perhaps, but the tracking site on T-Mobile still shows the update in "Manufacture Development" So, it hasn't even started the T-Mobile testing process yet.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/phones-tablets-devices/software-updates#tmoSUPDocTitle
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it also showed the g3 as the same status as note 4, but my wife's friend has a g3 with lollipop on it via tmo so that page is wrong af
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it also showed the g3 as the same status as note 4, but my wife's friend has a g3 with lollipop on it via tmo so that page is wrong af
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Lol "clap clap clap", just had to post without even looking at all right? jesus
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Where did you get your information from because I just looked on a few credible sites like phonearena.com, androidauthority.com & androidpolice.com and I do not see any mention of Sprint Note 4 getting the official Lollipop update.
I know the T-Mobile Note 3 recently got the update. Maybe Sprint just got the update for the Note 3 as well.
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That isn't that accurate. It says the Note 3 is still in testing and it dropped yesterday. I'm not sure how often they update the site.
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It's changed to completed now if you look for the note 3
Sprint is for suckers. They need something to make them feel entitled.
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Sprint is for suckers. They need something to make them feel entitled.
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Lol, suckers or not...I want that lollipop update just to see what samsung has done differently...tmobile making this hard.
Right now its matter of wanting the new thing despite knowing how jacked up it is. Lollipop been a bundle of bugs since 5.0.0 and I believe they are releasing 5.1?
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Lol, suckers or not...I want that lollipop update just to see what samsung has done differently...tmobile making this hard.
Right now its matter of wanting the new thing despite knowing how jacked up it is. Lollipop been a bundle of bugs since 5.0.0 and I believe they are releasing 5.1?
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Sprint got 5.01, but yes, Google is about to release 5.1 meaning more months before US sees that.
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Sprint got 5.01, but yes, Google is about to release 5.1 meaning more months before US sees that.
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Oh I know that thing not showing on my device (a samsung device) until next year.
I'm thinking sometimes march? naw april seems more like it
Just spoke with T-Mobile regarding this. Advised that I was curious how and why it showed still in manufacturer development whereas many international carriers as well as Sprint have the update pushed. Explained that it would stand to reason that it shouldn't show that status. The agent went on to state that T-Mobile is working on finishing it up now.
Okay, so, this tells me one of a few things. 1 - Their site is not updated and T-Mobile has it or 2 - They have yet to receive it from the manufacturer. I would have to lean towards option 1 but that is purely speculation based on nothing more than stupid hope! However, their choice of wording has me interested and hopeful. They would not give any sort of a date, only to say that they were trying to make sure it was running smoothly.
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Just spoke with T-Mobile regarding this. Advised that I was curious how and why it showed still in manufacturer development whereas many international carriers as well as Sprint have the update pushed. Explained that it would stand to reason that it shouldn't show that status. The agent went on to state that T-Mobile is working on finishing it up now.
Okay, so, this tells me one of a few things. 1 - Their site is not updated and T-Mobile has it or 2 - They have yet to receive it from the manufacturer. I would have to lean towards option 1 but that is purely speculation based on nothing more than stupid hope! However, their choice of wording has me interested and hopeful. They would not give any sort of a date, only to say that they were trying to make sure it was running smoothly.
FWIW.
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Oh, and one more thing I thought about. Some of you veterans around here have a much better idea about this than myself. Is it possible they are nearly ready but don't want to dedicate the bandwidth to pushing it to both the Note 3 (which as I understand was just pushed) AND the Note 4 at the same time (the mentality being them not wanting THAT many users all pulling an update at the same time, slowing things to a crawl)?
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Just spoke with T-Mobile regarding this. Advised that I was curious how and why it showed still in manufacturer development whereas many international carriers as well as Sprint have the update pushed. Explained that it would stand to reason that it shouldn't show that status. The agent went on to state that T-Mobile is working on finishing it up now.
Okay, so, this tells me one of a few things. 1 - Their site is not updated and T-Mobile has it or 2 - They have yet to receive it from the manufacturer. I would have to lean towards option 1 but that is purely speculation based on nothing more than stupid hope! However, their choice of wording has me interested and hopeful. They would not give any sort of a date, only to say that they were trying to make sure it was running smoothly.
FWIW.
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Oh, and one more thing I thought about. Some of you veterans around here have a much better idea about this than myself. Is it possible they are nearly ready but don't want to dedicate the bandwidth to pushing it to both the Note 3 (which as I understand was just pushed) AND the Note 4 at the same time (the mentality being them not wanting THAT many users all pulling an update at the same time, slowing things to a crawl)?
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I doubt that is the case. If memory serves me right, the note 3 and the gs4 both receive kitkat at the same time. I personally think it just arrived late for them and they were not done with it in time. If you look at it, only sprint got the note 4 update out right now. Verizon nor ATT made any noise on it...and verizon was first to drop lollipop in the US with the Gs5
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I doubt that is the case. If memory serves me right, the note 3 and the note 4 both receive kitkat at the same time. I personally think it just arrived late for them and they were not done with it in time. If you look at it, only sprint got the note 4 update out right now. Verizon nor ATT made any noise on it...and verizon was first to drop lollipop in the US with the Gs5
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I suspect you are correct, sadly! Hopefully this means it will start dropping elsewhere soon!
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it also showed the g3 as the same status as note 4, but my wife's friend has a g3 with lollipop on it via tmo so that page is wrong af
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Your Wife's friend must have a custom Lolli Rom, because Tmo did not push it out for the G3 yet. Either way, the page is inaccurate.