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Has anyone experienced this issue, seems as tho when I charge my battery to 100% it takes less then 30m before it discharges to 92-92%.
This is happening with the original battery and the Seidio extended battery that I have.
Is there a fix for this, or is this something I should call VZW about. A lot of people at androidforums have been having the same issue.
http://androidforums.com/tips-trick...first-10-battery-drain-quicker-than-rest.html
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http://androidforums.com/tips-trick...first-10-battery-drain-quicker-than-rest.html
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Yeah, I've read this, is everyone having this issue, or just certain phones? The battery "trick" does not work for me.
i think everyone has the problem. the "trick" didnt work for me either or my friend, unless we're doing it wrong. i think its a software issue personally, and hopefully an update will fix it.
ufvj217 said:
i think everyone has the problem. the "trick" didnt work for me either or my friend, unless we're doing it wrong. i think its a software issue personally, and hopefully an update will fix it.
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Your battery stats are miscalculated. You need a calibration procedure. Replacing the phone might fix the problem, but if your battery charging habits don't change it'll happen again, unless HTC feels like changing their battery calibration algorithm, and there's no need to wait for that. Any laptap manufacturer will have a good how-to on li-ion battery calibration.
theres no way all the phones are bad, alot of people have this issue that have this phone. i dont think its bad hardware, chances are if i get a new battery its going to do the same thing. im gonna order an extended battery anyways soon so we will see.
ufvj217 said:
theres no way all the phones are bad, alot of people have this issue that have this phone. i dont think its bad hardware, chances are if i get a new battery its going to do the same thing. im gonna order an extended battery anyways soon so we will see.
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I am having the same issue with an extended battery. It's the way the phone is charging the battery. Is everyone just accepting this as is or is not everyone having the same issue. I want to know if I should replace the phone or not...
I completely discharged my battery last night, turned it off, and fully charged it while it was off. Now the first 10% seems a lot more resilient then before. I just hope I don't have to do this every night. I don't have a land line and it sucks having to turn it off just to charge it.
good to see this post, i to have a htc touch hd, and have problems with batteries, ive bought 2 new batteries from ebay.
and seem to get vary results, its as if mobile is showing 100% but the battery is only 40% charged.
charged one last night finished at 12pm and battery was saying it was flat at 7am !
the orginal htc does seem to last longer, but obvisily there is a issue with the phone itself, if it needs reset or something?
t41n7ed said:
I am having the same issue with an extended battery. It's the way the phone is charging the battery. Is everyone just accepting this as is or is not everyone having the same issue. I want to know if I should replace the phone or not...
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Replacing the phone is not necessary. It's actually the OS that cuts the charge short of full. The OS "thinks" the battery is full,thus stopping the charge. Completely drain the battery, then plug it in,leaving the phone on. Let it fully charge while it's on - when the LED indicator is green,and the battery is "full" - while still plugged in, power phone off,and you'll notice the indicator will turn red again,charging the phone for about another half hour or so. That will give you a true full charge.
Days later...and running Froyo, and still battery problems
I'm running Froyo now...battery light green and indicating 100%...and I power off the phone... It has been charging 25 minutes now and still charging. Didn't they(?) say that this had been fixed in the latest ROMs. I'm running Sky Raider's 2.01. Is it just me?
Do I need to erase my battery stats from within ClockworkMod Recovery? I haven't done this because it warns that this cannot be undone. That sounded too scary for me to try.
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I'm running Froyo now...battery light green and indicating 100%...and I power off the phone... It has been charging 25 minutes now and still charging. Didn't they(?) say that this had been fixed in the latest ROMs. I'm running Sky Raider's 2.01. Is it just me?
Do I need to erase my battery stats from within ClockworkMod Recovery? I haven't done this because it warns that this cannot be undone. That sounded too scary for me to try.
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Yes, clear battery stats. Ive had battery issues like this with any leaked froyo rom, including the one i developed.
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Yes, clear battery stats. Ive had battery issues like this with any leaked froyo rom, including the one i developed.
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Thanks! I will give it a try...
How do u clear your battery stats?
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Go into recovery and it is under advanced.
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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Oh thanks. I was actually planning to get a new battery today.
Whick one do you suggest?
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its a problem with the chargers. youll see if you charge with an external battery charger or a vzw car charger, the phone will charge fine. htc screwed something up with the "trickle" function in the incredible stock chargers. as soon as the LED turns green, the charger shuts off and almost siphons charge from the battery in order to prevent overcharging, which drains the battery to about 95%, but the battery will still show its at 100. ive done the battery stats clear several times and this problem persists even if i leave the phone on the charger for more than a minute after LED turns green, even when phone is turned off. at times the charger doesnt even charge the phone all the way, which is why you can charge completely, unplug, plug it back in and light is red again and takes a few more minutes to charge. both are caused by an "overcharge protection" feature built in to just about every charger these days, but gone horribly wrong in these chargers.
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I can tell you it doesn't have anything to do with the chargers. I have this problem while the phone is turned on whether I plug it into my Computer, original charger, off brand car charger, usb car charger, usb cable from the lg ally, or the OEM lg ally charger. it has everything to do with HTCs software on the phone. it is using two different ways to charge the battery, one while the phone is on and in use (that uses HTCs software/algorithm), and one while the phone is turned off(uses the batteries overcharge protection circuit).
jeeeeezz
I have tried everything, I tried resetting / removing the battery stats etc. Nothing works...Its useless ppl...have to wait for a fix from HTC. Which bring my question, does anyone know when or if this is planned to be fixed?
Has anyone else seen this? From 100 to 90% the power just drops almost instantaneously but after 90% its normal.
Already been brought up, a lot.
Apparently when your phone charges up it stops once it reaches ~100% and begins discharging, even though it is still on the charger. People will turn their phone off after a full charge and charge for an additional 20min to an hour before they get another green LED. People have reported much longer battery life when doing this, but it is a pain in the ass.
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Already been brought up, a lot.
Apparently when your phone charges up it stops once it reaches ~100% and begins discharging, even though it is still on the charger. People will turn their phone off after a full charge and charge for an additional 20min to an hour before they get another green LED. People have reported much longer battery life when doing this, but it is a pain in the ass.
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Ahh interesting. I thought I was running into an old winmo rom flashing issue where if you flashed under 50% battery life you could never charge the device above that point.
Yea it sucks but it works... I just ordered an external battery charger since I have 2 batteries now so I don't have to do this anymore
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two_cents said:
Yea it sucks but it works... I just ordered an external battery charger since I have 2 batteries now so I don't have to do this anymore
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Hmm i tried and it acted the same way.
Apparently the HTC models act like older phones did back in the day. What HTC needs to do is put something on the phone face itself when new that says "CHARGE FOR 4 HOURS BEFORE INITIAL POWER ON FOR MAXIMUM BATTERY LIFE."
Once you do this once you dont have to keep doing it. I also powered on my phone the minute I got it and activated it without charging it first and I was seeing this issue until I did a power off charge. The phone runs from 6am to 11pm without an additional charge cycle in the day and that is a huge improvement for me. I was charging the phone twice to three times daily.
Hello does this method works for x10 to make battery last longer?
Hi *******, I understand your concern regarding battery life on your Nexus One device. The following steps should significantly extend the battery life on your phone. Please connect the phone to the charger with the phone powered on, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green, indicating the device is fully charged. Disconnect the phone from the charger, and power it off. Reconnect the phone to the charger with the phone powered off, and allow the phone to charge until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone from the charger and power it on. Once the phone is powered completely on, power it off again and reconnect it to the charger until the notification LED is green. Disconnect the phone, power it on, and use it. You need to use this sequence only once. If the issue of battery life on our phone persists, I recommend you contact our HTC accessory department directly.
I don't think that exact method will work.
It could just be me, but whenever I plug my phone into the charger when it is switched off, it switches on the phone, which doesn't really help when you're trying to charge with the power switched off.
Mine won't charge switched off either, always turns on.
I just run my battery flat a couple of times, seems to help alot.
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Modern batteries are not supposed to run flat, from what i've been reading. They stay fresh if charged a little and often. I'm not saying anyones wrong, just what i've heard and read.
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They don't go flat as you'd expect. Lithium has an operating bandwidth. Say 3.5 to 2.9 thats your battery indication from full charge to low battery. Technically the battery is never fully discharged. As someone posted above, a little and often with these new batteries wins the race.
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I discovered the solution for X10 calibrate. My bat was showing 100% so i pulled ut the charger, turned the device of, took out the battery, put the charger in and finally putting the battery back. When phone was restarted my battery started charging from 88%. hope it works the same for all!
Edit: after led turning off and bat showing 100% i did the whole procedure again, and again it starts charging from 88%!
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I did it three times in a row now with the same result everytime!
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After nearly 1h since stop charging i'm still on 100% after a few texts, checking xda on tapatalk ofc and surfing a few webpages, i was down at 99% but magically it restored itself when leaving it be.
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I discovered the solution for X10 calibrate. My bat was showing 100% so i pulled ut the charger, turned the device of, took out the battery, put the charger in and finally putting the battery back. When phone was restarted my battery started charging from 88%. hope it works the same for all!
Edit: after led turning off and bat showing 100% i did the whole procedure again, and again it starts charging from 88%!
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Gonna try this myself. I'll report back soon.
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Mine starts to load at 88% too.
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When loading, my Battery Indicator states "overvoltage" and shows 4,21 volts. On my second X10 it's only 3,77 and it doesn't say overvoltage. But when I take it off from the charger the voltage drops to 4 volts and stays at 3,77 on my other X10. Bizarre.
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Battery life seems to have improved a lot. With the screen at 100% brightness and the sound on on Gameboid I only lost 1% per 10mins or so. Quite an improvement from losing 3% per 5min.
Tjotte said:
I discovered the solution for X10 calibrate. My bat was showing 100% so i pulled ut the charger, turned the device of, took out the battery, put the charger in and finally putting the battery back. When phone was restarted my battery started charging from 88%. hope it works the same for all!
Edit: after led turning off and bat showing 100% i did the whole procedure again, and again it starts charging from 88%!
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thanks for the tip! my guess is that the x10 isnt fully charging the battery?
which is kinda werid because i am using my old X1 batt so it shouldn't be draining
this fast.
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Gonna try this myself. I'll report back soon.
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Mine starts to load at 88% too.
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When loading, my Battery Indicator states "overvoltage" and shows 4,21 volts. On my second X10 it's only 3,77 and it doesn't say overvoltage. But when I take it off from the charger the voltage drops to 4 volts and stays at 3,77 on my other X10. Bizarre.
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Battery life seems to have improved a lot. With the screen at 100% brightness and the sound on on Gameboid I only lost 1% per 10mins or so. Quite an improvement from losing 3% per 5min.
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Nice to see there are actually improvements, i had to rush to my buss while still doing the third cycle so i dissconnected at 96% and it then kept ticking up to 100% on it's own. It sounds worrying though that you get an over voltage allert, maby we should not do this to much if it might damage the battery. But a few cycles just to max it out can't harm?! I belive the 88% -> 100% went faster though for each cycle so this might be a sign that the battery is pushing to the limit little by little. I'm gonna go for a few more cycles to see the results of it.
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Nice to see there are actually improvements, i had to rush to my buss while still doing the third cycle so i dissconnected at 96% and it then kept ticking up to 100% on it's own. It sounds worrying though that you get an over voltage allert, maby we should not do this to much if it might damage the battery. But a few cycles just to max it out can't harm?! I belive the 88% -> 100% went faster though for each cycle so this might be a sign that the battery is pushing to the limit little by little. I'm gonna go for a few more cycles to see the results of it.
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Yeah, well I had only done two cycles when I noticed the over voltage and stopped there. It seems fine at the moment, temps are normal etc.
I just did one "calibration" again and i actually played around so much with my phone today so when i got home it was on 10%, charged it to 100% and when doin the procedure it reset the battery gauge to 96% rather then the 88% i got earlier.. i wonder if it has any connection to my unplugging the phone at 96% this morning.... hmm, i just don't get this. hehe
Edit: second cycle now and i'm back to charging from 88%.
Thanks for all your constructive ideas. Im also worrying about the battery damage because this is not an official measure. I'll try a few cycles however.
Can you please advise if the coming 2.1 will bring X10 extended battery life?
tried the cycle, first cycle went down to 92%, didnt take long for 100%, second and third she rebooted at 100, sitting at 4.201volts stating overcharge. will update tomorro with a full days use.
I honestly can not tell if my battery has improved from this, but i'm a very inconsistent user
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i also cannot see a difference yet although i used my x10 an obscene amount today...
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I haven't tried this calibration by taking out the battery when full and putting it back in thing yet, but I have gotten over voltage condition when recharging anyway. It occurs in the 90% and higher region.
Usually, my voltage reaches 4.21V at 100%.
I have very good battery life for a smartphone; I think mostly due to the R2BA020 update for Canada/Rogers. Also, I turn off APN connection most of the time. I did a couple full discharges early when I got the phone and don't know if that had an impact.
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I haven't tried this calibration by taking out the battery when full and putting it back in thing yet, but I have gotten over voltage condition when recharging anyway. It occurs in the 90% and higher region.
Usually, my voltage reaches 4.21V at 100%.
I have very good battery life for a smartphone; I think mostly due to the R2BA020 update for Canada/Rogers. Also, I turn off APN connection most of the time. I did a couple full discharges early when I got the phone and don't know if that had an impact.
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So this should meen that the battery is always charging at an overvoltage wich would also meen doing this cycle should not harm the battery more then normal.
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Tjotte said:
I discovered the solution for X10 calibrate. My bat was showing 100% so i pulled ut the charger, turned the device of, took out the battery, put the charger in and finally putting the battery back. When phone was restarted my battery started charging from 88%. hope it works the same for all!
Edit: after led turning off and bat showing 100% i did the whole procedure again, and again it starts charging from 88%!
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Used this did it three times and after the third time on reboot battery on 100% see how long my battery lasts now
Edit-Worked great but then had troubles with ROM so had to reflash. Now when I try this phone just goes into flash mode when USB is plugged in even before the battery. Help?
[Q] Wifi Tether: Subject to $15 T-Mobile Charge?
Curious about this. Currently I'm connected to my laptop for the past 15 min just fine; no alert came up that said I had to get the $15 fee that T-Mobile charges for the "privilege" of tethering on my current plan. Does that mean that an unlocked phone isn't subject to T-Mobile's tampering?
If so, is this the only value for rooting right now? I don't see any other need for root with this phone except if it fools T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
allen099 said:
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
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This is normal, search some threads
slowz3r said:
This is normal, search some threads
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I see that some people don't get to 100% during the actual charge process, but haven't seen my issue yet. I'll keep looking. So many of these threads...thanks.
Just trying to figure out whether it's worth going back for another phone or battery. What would you do?
Id keep it, there was an article posted in one of the threads stating why phones do this...the N1 did a similar thing where after it charged going from 100-96 percent went really quickly
i would equate it when you buy a 16 gig SD card and it shows as 15.6 gigs
Same thing here... pretty sure it's happening to most people.
Read this: http://byrong.com/PowerTesting/
allen099 said:
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
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Mine did this until I calibrated the battery. Charged it to 100%, then drained it all the way. Charged it back up to 100%, and now not only does the battery last longer, but the percentage seems to go down in a more linear fashion.
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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brianbrain said:
Mine did this until I calibrated the battery. Charged it to 100%, then drained it all the way. Charged it back up to 100%, and now not only does the battery last longer, but the percentage seems to go down in a more linear fashion.
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Same here, I've done this two nights in a row, but no change.
Thank you for the links, guys. Pretty insightful actually. I've got it charging right now at 99%. As soon as it hits 100%, I'll take it off and see if it drops instantly. I'm guessing it shouldn't as it JUST hit 100%. But we shall see..
Thanks again!
Same issue here afetr the caliberation and all
I really wouldnt worry about it guys, not like magical unicorns are eating your percentages
Well...I mean, it's not something anybody is "worried" about, but it does suck because I use my phone heavily as I'm in the IT field ... so every percentage counts. After I just unplugged, it went to 99% which my N1 did as well. I'm fine with 99%, but 97% seemed a bit low.
Full charge oddity
When the phone has been switched off and charging the phone shows the fully charged icon on screen when charging appears to be done. Battery Indicator Pro displays only a 95% charge when the phone is switched on. The same happens when the phone is on and being usb charged. When 100% charge is shown and the usb cable is removed the charge is then shown as 95%. This does not happen on my other devices running 2.2. They will show 100% or 99%. A device design or 2.3 bug?
Read this whole post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
The epic 4g has this problem. I think its something with samsung. You have to unplug it, plug it back in, let it charge to full again and rinse repeat until its really at 100%
Then reset your battery stats in cwm
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As noted in the stickied FAQ and further discussed in the link provided by nxt (Beat me to it!), this is by design folks.
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Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
This is by design. Your phone will slow down and eventually stop pulling charge at or slightly greater than ~95% regardless of what your battery indicator says. This is to extend the overall life of the battery, as constant 100% to 0% charge/discharge cycles will cause it to fail prematurely. If you're interested in really pushing it to 100%, you can use a technique that is called "bump charging" and is better detailed here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/12...battery-drain/
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<- Link has more or less the same info as nxt's.
maybe we need multiple FAQ stickies in this board..
Weird battery reading
My Nexus S was at about 16% when I put it on the charger then I did a quick reboot and it said it was at 52%. I unplugged it, powered off, pulled the battery, then rebooted and it read 28%. Even that is hard to believe after less then 5 minutes of charging. Has this happened to anyone else?
Stock 2.3.1 unrooted
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Has this happened to anyone else?
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Yes, that has been reported by a number of people. It has happened to me as well when rebooting while charging. Nothing is wrong with your battery though, it just must be a battery stats bug.
Good to know. Thank you for the prompt reply
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My gf said her N7 showed a 0% charge even though 2 hours earlier she had a 60% charge. She then plugged it in and restarted, then it showed a 60% charge again.
Any ideas what may be wrong?
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My gf said her N7 showed a 0% charge even though 2 hours earlier she had a 60% charge. She then plugged it in and restarted, then it showed a 60% charge again.
Any ideas what may be wrong?
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is it rooted? maybe wiping batter stats will fix it.
Its not rooted.
Fufu_the_Great said:
is it rooted? maybe wiping batter stats will fix it.
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Not likely. Battery stats has absolutely nothing to do with reported charge level. Wiping it will have the same effect as clearing his market search history... None at all.
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Are you using the charger that came with the Nexus 7? 'Cause the same thing happened to me last month. I used a charger I got from ebay, plugged it in, charged all day, came back, unplugged it, turned on & said it was in the red!
Same thing happened to me shortly after I had the N7.... and that was with using the supplied mains charger and cable.
All I did was leave it alone for a further hour and when I then went back to check the screen it had jumped all of 13%.
I was tempted to return the N7 but as it was night and I couldn't return it I left it on charge overnight...... The following morning it was 100% charged.
Since then it's been charged dozen's of times and not once been a problem since (says he touching wood).
My problem is that it wont show that its charging even tho it is. Tried all chargers i have and even the stock one is same. Was going to return it but all the horror stories I've heard i decided not going to bother. Chances are i get a worse unit back. Personally it looks like the connector is not going all the way in. I am going to shave some of the plastic off and see if that helps. Anyway I think Google needs better quality control at Asus and even at Samsung, i remember how my Gnex was packaged.
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im running aokp JB build 2 and everytime i turn it on, the little battery icon says for example "54%" and on the lock screen it says "100%"
kinda strange. I was about to ask if it was rooted also, but someone did that before me, so im lost for words