hello friends,
I'm the new guy here,but I used the defy+ nearly half a year.And I always use the Qrarx's ROM from the CM7 to CM10.
In here, I read lots of threads about the defy's ROM, and found that there are two Kings ,Quarx and Eps3.
they gived us lots of wonderful defy(+) ROM,such as ICS and JB which the MOTO didn;t update the OS.
NOW I don't known the diffience between the Quarx's and Eps3's rom.
sombody can explain it for me?
Thanks a lot!~
basically its the same rom, only difference is that epsylon mostly builds for froyo kernel (defy, mb525), and quarx for gingerbread kernel (defy+, mb526). of course being two separate developers, they probably have different bugs. but the functionality and feel is the same, as they both port the official cyanogenmod rom.
sent from my jellybean defy...
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basically its the same rom, only difference is that epsylon mostly builds for froyo kernel (defy, mb525), and quarx for gingerbread kernel (defy+, mb526). of course being two separate developers, they probably have different bugs. but the functionality and feel is the same, as they both port the official cyanogenmod rom.
sent from my jellybean defy...
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Thanks a lot !
My phone is Defy+, seems I choose the right guy, Quarx!
And I will always focus the Quarx's ROM.
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For CMX, Quarx and Epsilon are planning to use a common repository, so I guess they won't have different builds in the near future.
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Hi all,
For everyone asking about custom roms ont 2.3.4 here is the situation :
For everyone who have upgraded the MS2 to the Official 2.3.4, no step back is possible to Froyo 2.2 or 2.2.2.
custom ROMs based on Froyo will not work (like CM7/9 from Tezet.)
=> Someone will have to build on based on the 2.3.4 kernel.
custom ROMs based on Chinese GB seems to work...
=> MS2Ginger for exemple.
custom ROMS based on Defy+ ROMs ?
So, who want that the CM or MIUI ROMs are ported to the newer Motorola kernel ? (So everyone could choose between BLUR, CM and others ?)
I say it on an other thread that the ms2ginger and the argen2stone roms are running on an ms2 with stock gb rom. Somebody must make an cm7 with the 2.3 kernel than wie can use customroms.
thanks for your thread.
But my question is, this official rom 2.3.4 does work better than froyo? or the custom rom 2.3.7 de CM7? It might be a dumb question or it's answered in another thread, if that case sorry.
Thanks
Yes i want Miui with the new kernel ! For a better touchsreen sensitivity for eg.
I try Argen2Stone 2.7 RE but i dont see adjust scrips and keep the old dialer from stock rom.
The 2.3.4 brings some bug fixes, and some upgrades.
From the kernel point of view, the same release is used (Linux Kernel 2.6.32.9). So no major bug fixes at kernel level for my point of view. Maybe some parameters changed.
The main point is for the "upgraders" to Gingerbread that can't go back to Froyo.
boorce.com said:
Hi all,
For everyone asking about custom roms ont 2.3.4 here is the situation :
For everyone who have upgraded the MS2 to the Official 2.3.4, no step back is possible to Froyo 2.2 or 2.2.2.
custom ROMs based on Froyo will not work (like CM7/9 from Tezet.)
=> Someone will have to build on based on the 2.3.4 kernel.
custom ROMs based on Chinese GB seems to work...
=> MS2Ginger for exemple.
custom ROMS based on Defy+ ROMs ?
So, who want that the CM or MIUI ROMs are ported to the newer Motorola kernel ? (So everyone could choose between BLUR, CM and others ?)
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I tryed to flash MS2Ginger but the MS2 doesn't turn on.
I don't know.
could Anyone post how to flash step by step ?
tks
I think that the new kernel can improve MS2 performace so a rom based on the new kernel it's much better than the old modded rom.
Simokill said:
I think that the new kernel can improve MS2 performace so a rom based on the new kernel it's much better than the old modded rom.
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I have the same idea...waiting for some MIUI or CM7 based on this new kernel.
I'd like someone who knows what they are doing to de-blur it. I have removed as much as I dare but still have too much moto... rubbish on the phone.
yeah agreed with u guys i wish a custom rom based on new gb 2.3.4
diavolobianco said:
yeah agreed with u guys i wish a custom rom based on new gb 2.3.4
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or new FR
is true. I think it's time to leave the kernel of froyo that is old and start to compile with the new kernel brings improvements and is of GB!
GB kernel is in fact the same linux kernel version as froyo kernel, so there are not any improvements except for some minor patches.... So no reason to leave froyo.
I just don't get why you all guys updated to GB and then you all crying, you can't use custom roms and that froyo kernel is old and why gingerbread isn't used... GB kernel in custom roms isn't high priority in dev right now. Deal with it. GB kernel don't bring any valuable improvements, so only reason to leave froyo and get in GB are you all, who did that mistake and upgraded to official GB without even reading the forum here (because it was already written so many times there...).
No offense please, I'm just sayin' that GB kernel in custom roms don't have high priority, because of missing downgrade capability and because they don't bring nothing so exciting and big or valuable, nothing worth. So when dev update to GB, he can't go back to froyo - and this is quite big limitation...
Actually CM9 does work over Euro GB kernel. It is based on Chinese GB kernel. And I must say Tezet has made some really good progress with CM9.
And Defy ROMs based on Defy+ kernel have also been proved to work on Euro GB kernel.
These ROMs work if we remove devtree.img and boot.img from the update.zip and thus only flash system.
So I guess it is only a matter of time.
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I just don't get why you all guys updated to GB and then you all crying, you can't use custom roms and that froyo kernel is old and why gingerbread isn't used... GB kernel in custom roms isn't high priority in dev right now. Deal with it. GB kernel don't bring any valuable improvements, so only reason to leave froyo and get in GB are you all, who did that mistake and upgraded to official GB without even reading the forum here (because it was already written so many times there...).
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Good sir, your silver tongue rivals that of our finest bards! Please, travel amongst the populace, spreading joy and soothing woes.
Anonymous_ said:
I just don't get why you all guys updated to GB and then you all crying
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No crying here, just discussion, which is what the forum is for. What was your point?
may be it's better to find a way to downgrade.
Kangburra said:
No crying here, just discussion, which is what the forum is for. What was your point?
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I think I said my point clearly... But once again then:
I'm just sayin' that GB kernel in custom roms don't have high priority, because of missing downgrade capability and because they don't bring nothing so exciting and big or valuable, nothing worth. So when dev update to GB, he can't go back to froyo - and this is quite big limitation...
And don't take my words too personal. Easy man, easy...
Sometimes it's cool to have stock ROM. But,it will be much cooler if we can switch to custom ROM's. Stock ROMs are slower and less free RAM than CM7 or MIUI. Now,I'm getting bored with MS2Ginger2.1.
All we have to do is just wait..
hi, did anyone manage to overclock after updated to stock 2.3?
android overclock doesn't work anymore after i updated
Hello all,
I'm posting this thread because I'm getting a little confused after all this reading. Basically, I just need some confirmations.
Lately I've been reading a lot on CM7 and CM9 but now I'm also starting to get interested in MIUI.
I've come across:
WIUI
MIUI Pikachu edition
MIUIandroid.com
Motorola Defy MIUI.us
I underlined my 4 questions for your convenience.
So I have some Questions on Custom ROMS
As you can see, I've looked for an official MIUI build for the Defy but I can't seem to find an official MIUI build. These listed above are all 'edited' by someone.
Could someone explain what i'm (probably) overlooking? Is there an official MIUI?
At the moment WIUI and Pikachu edition look very nice.
I currently have a Bayer (aka red lense) Defy (MB525)
stock android 2.2.2 on 2.6.32.9 kernel.
Systemversion: Version.34.164.3.MB525.Retail.en.FR.
Build number: 3.4.2-164
Which means I have a Froyo/Defy/'CM7' Kernel
CM7 and MIUI(GB) are all meant to be flashed on this Froyo/Defy/CM7 kernel, am I correct?
I find the '(GB)' with MIUI rather confusing, it's android 2.3.x but it's running Froyo kernel/Defy/CM7 kernel and not a GB/Defy+/CM9 kernel.
Now, the flashing
If I decide to flash a custom ROM: CM7.2 or a version of (GB) MIUI:
Can I just flash MIUI or CM7.2 RC1 on my current build or do I need to flash CEE or Nordic 2.2.2 first? I prefer not to lose my downgradeability.
I assume a flash from my current build to CEE or Nordic via RSDlite will result in an efuse so I can't flash my full 34.164.3.MB525.Retail.en.FR SBF anymore, or am I mistaken?
I currently have a full SBF of my original stock ROM, just in case.
Kind Regards, Config.
configuration said:
Hello all,
I'm posting this thread because I'm getting a little confused after all this reading. Basically, I just need some confirmations.
Lately I've been reading a lot on CM7 and CM9 but now I'm also starting to get interested in MIUI.
I've come across:
WIUI
MIUI Pikachu edition
MIUIandroid.com
Motorola Defy MIUI.us
I underlined my 4 questions for your convenience.
So I have some Questions on Custom ROMS
As you can see, I've looked for an official MIUI build for the Defy but I can't seem to find an official MIUI build. These listed above are all 'edited' by someone.
Could someone explain what i'm (probably) overlooking? Is there an official MIUI?
At the moment WIUI and Pikachu edition look very nice.
I currently have a Bayer (aka red lense) Defy (MB525)
stock android 2.2.2 on 2.6.32.9 kernel.
Systemversion: Version.34.164.3.MB525.Retail.en.FR.
Build number: 3.4.2-164
Which means I have a Froyo/Defy/'CM7' Kernel
CM7 and MIUI(GB) are all meant to be flashed on this Froyo/Defy/CM7 kernel, am I correct?
I find the '(GB)' with MIUI rather confusing, it's android 2.3.x but it's running Froyo kernel/Defy/CM7 kernel and not a GB/Defy+/CM9 kernel.
Now, the flashing
If I decide to flash a custom ROM: CM7.2 or a version of (GB) MIUI:
Can I just flash MIUI or CM7.2 RC1 on my current build or do I need to flash CEE or Nordic 2.2.2 first? I prefer not to lose my downgradeability.
I assume a flash from my current build to CEE or Nordic via RSDlite will result in an efuse so I can't flash my full 34.164.3.MB525.Retail.en.FR SBF anymore, or am I mistaken?
I currently have a full SBF of my original stock ROM, just in case.
Kind Regards, Config.
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I have a Defy with bayer camera module, all I did for installing custom roms was root, install 2nd init, reboot to boot loader and wipe all data/cache (this is the first step in any of the mentioned ROMs, but please read the respective step-by-step tutorials in case I missed something), and then flashed the desired CM or CM-based (like MIUI) rom
The defy versions all basically run over froyo kernel, as it's the last official kernel released for the device (GB kernels are either leaked or belong to the defy+) , I never flashed a newer one and have tested quite a few MIUI and CM versions, including:
MIUI.us (oficial US MIUI adaptation team)
MIUIandroid.com (British team)
WIUI (Wajk's multilanguage version, and also has an ICS test version, that I also tried)
CM7.1 and Epsylon3's CM9 for Defy (in beta, but more stable than WIUI's ICS for Defy)
I don't actually know if flashing a newer kernel would be any use for these roms, I know defy and defy+ (different kernels) roms are not interchangeable, so I wouln't bother with it unless you are flashing a full sbf rom (in which case I have no experience with)
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Thanks,
If I may ask, What ROM would you personally recommend?
Does anyone know the answer on my 2 last questions?
Config
From the ones I've used for a while, I suggest the official MIUI (gingerbread) if you wan't to be safe and CM9 if you want some ICS sweetness and feel good about dealing with the perks of a beta release. Once we finally have an official (or at least a stable/less buggy alternative) version of ICS MIUI for defy, I'd go with that, definitely
Persechini said:
From the ones I've used for a while, I suggest the official MIUI (gingerbread) if you wan't to be safe and CM9 if you want some ICS sweetness and feel good about dealing with the perks of a beta release. Once we finally have an official (or at least a stable/less buggy alternative) version of ICS MIUI for defy, I'd go with that, definitely
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With official MIUI, do you mean the US version or the British?
For what i know, official miui is from chinese site miui.com. All others have some modification. More o less, all of them came frome miui's official releases. In my case, wiui is the most stable i been using since long time ago. I'm waiting for stable ics miui too cause there aren't an official rom from miui.com for defy. And the reason for that is because cm9 it's still in beta, and miui is based on cm project. All v4 around for defy are just port from others device's roms and have a lot of bugs, especially mobile data. As we know, motorola made our defy whit a locked bootloader whit froyo kernel in it. For that reason is more easy make a rom froyo kernel based. But isn't the unique option. there's a rom maded by walter 79 whit gb kernel that have excellent results, especially In battery life. Cm9 whit gb kernel too.
One more thing: miui (not v4) and cm7, are both android 2.3.x
Enviado desde mi MB525 usando Tapatalk
configuration said:
With official MIUI, do you mean the US version or the British?
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The really official one is the chinese, the others are, as ldiomedi said, translation/adaptation teams. Some apps may be added or removed, but usually nothing you would notice. I settled using the british version because the phone numbers where formatted the same way as in Brasil ((xx)xxxx xxxx) and the brazillian team was lagging behind updates. WIUI gathers language options, but I don't know about other adaptations.
So if I'm correct:
If I would like to use MIUIandroid I have to get the newest build here, the MIUI.US over here and WIUI just at the forums.
My SD card is getting a bit small, it's only 2gig.
So before leaving my stock ROM I would like to switch it.
Are there any extra steps I should do because of the SD-card switching?
You don't need to keep the rom in the sd after installing it, use each one a bit to see which you like better. Install the definite one and then delete the roms from the sd card, you can always redownload if you want to change again latter.
I know I don't have to keep those files on my SD-card.
It's just that 2gb is getting too small to store some photos and files.
I would go for the GB WIUI rom as it has both nl and fr translations. I tried it in the past and the translations were good. It is also optimized for the defy. The others handle many different devices.
labsin said:
I would go for the GB WIUI rom as it has both nl and fr translations. I tried it in the past and the translations were good. It is also optimized for the defy. The others handle many different devices.
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Nice, I'll try WIUI I guess.
Do you know the answer on the following questions?
configuration said:
If I decide to flash a custom ROM: CM7.2 or a version of (GB) MIUI:
Can I just flash MIUI or CM7.2 RC1 on my current build or do I need to flash CEE or Nordic 2.2.2 first? I prefer not to lose my downgradeability.
I assume a flash from my current build to CEE or Nordic via RSDlite will result in an efuse so I can't flash my full 34.164.3.MB525.Retail.en.FR SBF anymore, or am I mistaken?
I currently have a full SBF of my original stock ROM, just in case.
Kind Regards, Config.
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A full SBF with a nandroid backup should do for an 'insurance' I hope.
Changning from cm7.2 to miuiandroid gb rom
Hai memebers,
I want to flash miuiandroid GB rom on my Motorola defy.
Currently i m on CM 7.2 .
Please tel me the correct steps to flash the new rom??
Im confused as almost every post say how to update from stock rom.!
I've been reading, and re-reading, and re-re-reading, and now that I finally have my nexus one working with wifi-calling again (for international use), I'm willing to give up the wifi calling on the defy and go into a non-stock TMobile ROM. Since I did like the ICS roms on the nexus one, I think I'm going to go with one of the new CM9 ones.
Based on what I read, I think I understand a few things, but also have questions:
1) Kernel - It's the software underneath the ROM. Think device drivers. I would assume that since I'm on the latest TMobile ROM for the Defy, I'm on Froyo. I have a red lens (tested with logcat), so the question is: Is there any benefits to upgrading to the GB kernels? If I don't like the ICS/CM9 kernels, will it allow me to run CM7.2 kernels and be happy?
2) Quarx vs Epsylon ROMs. I see all these bug threads, and separate threads. Etc. Etc. What's the difference between them? And will the question from the kernel allow me to enjoy differences between the two builds? There's just way too few/many threads on these ROMs, and I'm confused with which one has which bugs and which one stands where. There seems to be 2 builds for each person's ROMs, but when you go into their download sections, it's also different dates with different "fixes", with different mirrors carrying different versions. And when I'm trying to figure out which one has bugs that I can live with, the bugs are in one consolidated thread, for every combination of kernel/ROM.
So the question is - Where can I get info on the latest pros/cons of each ROM and which kernel is needed to support it?
Anyways, point is, I'm lost. I'm hoping to push off the purchase of a galaxy nexus. I like the Defy. I like how I can treat it like junk but still work. I wish I can do inductive charging on it, but it is what it is.
Help???
Basically both devs each made 2 seperate builds one for red lense defy and one for green lense. They use different camera modules so they need different support. Seeing as you have red lense you should go with those (defy+ roms).
The defy cm9/gb kernel was taken from the defy+ and is needed for the defy+/red lense roms to work. To try the defy/green lense roms you need the cm7/froyo kernel which is from the regular defy.
Cm7 uses the froyo kernel and you can just reflash the froyo kernel if you want to go back to it.
About quarx and epsylon I think quarx supports the red lense better.
If you use quarxs defy+ roms on a reqular defy then you need to flash a battery fix.
Sent from my MB526 using XDA
epsylon and quarx has different camera modules so that they can split the work. merging of this build will most probably be done when stable release of cm9 is released. Quarx has a better working camcoder but his last build for green lens was long back. If u have green lense go for epsylon froyo kernel.
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Hi guys i'm very confused about Cm 9 nightly builds.
Is Eppy's 13/05 Buils is the stable vesion?
As far as I know there is no stable versions for the defy!
CM make stable versions but not for the defy well not the defy+ anyway and epsylon mods the CM version to work on defy with other mods as well. Like tweaks and he may add things and remove things.
So no its not stable. I dont think there is a stable CM9 build, the latest Stable CM build is CM7.1 AFAIK and it may be used by epsylon or quartx or other moders but I dont call that stable.
here is CM lastest stable version for the defy (not sure if it works on defy+ as its just a jordan version and there are no jordan+ versions)
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable&device=jordan
Edit: so you know a stable version is considered one that would run like a stock version and one you can trust to put on other peoples device that would not know how to mod it. All the rest come with risks and they could work perfectly fine for you and not so well for others. From what I have found defy can be a real pain to work with and there is no real time support (by real time I mean we have to have modders like epsylon and quartx to mod the ROM's that are made but say CM to work on our devices) and the defy having so many makes and variations then there is alot of conflict and what works on one device may not work on the same one for another person.
Its a real pain and the bootlocked on the moto phones are a real downfall. I found out today that telstra got the defy as it meet there spec for rural service and MOTO changed them specs before shipping it out then telstra got them to change it back to the original. So the same device has so many different changes its not funny. As well as the cameras and batteries and all that so who knows what else has been changed!
Nightly's are not stable..
just try a nightly..if everything wat u need works fine then stick to it..so give it a try for atleast 1 week..
If you meant the latest version then it's Quarx' Version from May 11. Currently I am running this one on my Defy+ and for me it runs pretty reliable, but it's still not called "stable". More like "alpha" or "beta".
hey i successfully rooted my defy plus dfp 231 bl7 i used coustom recovery v5 to install cm9 by fuzz "swank" it's cool but has bugs like no "move to sd" and evn shows insufficient storage error.
is there any solution to that.
or any other roms suggestion. :laugh:
Custom roms:
CM9 defy+ nightlies by Quarx
CM9 kangs by FuZZ (based on above)
CM9 defy+ nightlies by Epsylon3 (not preferred. Eppy focuses on the defy builds (froyo kernel))
CM7 defy+ nightlies by Quarx
CM7 whiterabbit plus edition (based on above)
CM9 kangs by FuZZ (also based on Quarx)
MIUI Scotland defy+ (2.3.7) brand new MIUI android 2.3.7
Various defy+ MIUI v4 builds
Various modified stock roms (e.g. ms2ginger)
Sure there are some more, but I don't remember them all. These are the most important ones
Roms by quarx: Quarx2k.ru
Roms by epsylon: defy.wdscript.fr
Most roms have threads
Good night (yawn)! sent from my Defy+
fiskenigaten said:
Custom roms:
CM9 defy+ nightlies by Quarx
CM9 kangs by FuZZ (based on above)
CM9 defy+ nightlies by Epsylon3 (not preferred. Eppy focuses on the defy builds (froyo kernel))
CM7 defy+ nightlies by Quarx
CM7 whiterabbit plus edition (based on above)
CM9 kangs by FuZZ (also based on Quarx)
MIUI Scotland defy+ (2.3.7) brand new MIUI android 2.3.7
Various defy+ MIUI v4 builds
Various modified stock roms (e.g. ms2ginger)
Sure there are some more, but I don't remember them all. These are the most important ones
Roms by quarx: Quarx2k.ru
Roms by epsylon: defy.wdscript.fr
Most roms have threads
Good night (yawn)! sent from my Defy+
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would they work for dfp 231 bl7
I had some strange problems with proximity sensor with CM7 (and BL7).
Ms2Ginger is running just fine at the moment :good:
As long as you don't install some Defy roms (with Froyo kernel) everything should work - with or without bugs
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would they work for dfp 231 bl7
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No. I just wanted to list a lot of roms that will not work on bl7 because I don't like you
Of course they will work! Well, I haven't tried them on bl7 since I'm bl6 with bl5 defy+ kernel, but these are all defy+ roms. Good luck! Just remember not to flash kernels e.g. Walter's kernel as it's for bl<6 and will brick your phone!
sent from my Defy+