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After successfully booting into android for the first time my battery life in android skyrocketed down, but that didn't really bother me.
The real problem is that even in WINMO my battery life is less than half what it used to be, and even after a night (8 hours) of charging (In a wall socket, not USB) its not at 100%
this has me very worried, any ideas? thanks in advance!
did you read anything before you started this thread...........
yes, i did. everyone is having a problem when they charge in android it gets to 90% then they switch to winmo and within minutes it picks back up to 100%.
this is not the case for me, my battery does not jump back up, it drains quickly even in winmo, and when it gets low its not just reading it improperly it just dies, so no this is not the same problem
did you know there are fixes .......and that your problem is not new at all....i am sorry to say that this is a know problem and you would want to ask in the thread of what build you are using and if you really wanted help you would post what build your using and what kernal , but no one can help you at all when you simply state you have battery issues
drain your battery in winmo till it dies, so the battery resets, then charge the battery again till full, it should be allright again.
thank you dipdap i will try that
dipdap said:
drain your battery in winmo till it dies, so the battery resets, then charge the battery again till full, it should be allright again.
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I strongly advise you NOT to do so. Draining a Lithium-Ion battery entirely is detrimental to its overall life/capacity. So instead of ruining your battery (or going a step towards ruining it), simply turn off your phone, charge it until you get the green LED, boot back to WinMo and it should be alright. If it isn't, look for another way, but completely draining your battery should not be the method of choice.
nobody said to drain it copletely, just till winmo dies, which should be fine. I do this once every couple of months by accident, and have never had a problem. I agree that you should not drain the battery completely though, so, make sure as soon as winmo dies, plug in to a charger.
what rom are you running? I am using shubcraft 1.5 and mine charges to 99% And I can get a full day out of my battery with pretty decent use.
Are you using setcpu cause that could have a major impact also do you have wifi,gps or bt on. I know gps has been known to cause some major drain while in sleep mode.
There is also a thread where people are trying to find solutions to the high amount of drain in the development forum.
We use current widget to create a log and monitor Our drain. You should be seeing less than 10ma while sleep I usually see between 3-7ma while sleep
Funny how when you are watching your battery it drains faster. When you are watching the clock time goes slower.
GustavTheLion said:
thank you dipdap i will try that
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You can look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770903
It was very helpful for me to identify how much current is being used while in sleep mode and active.
Download "current widget" from market and monitor your current supply for 30 minutes during your phone's screen is off.
Yeah with the screen off you cant see any thing but thankfully the log will be written for the current widget every min.
If your current comes out to be bellow 10ma during this time then you are doing good and should last you one day of usage else you need to pinpoint what is drinking all the juice even while your phone sleeps
Read the thread ALL OF IT, it will help you understand better.
Cheers.
alright thanks for all the help guys, the battery drain actually worked although i felt strange doing it, but still my android life isn't so great, i would love for it to work completely though because the only wquivalent option on my carrier is the Captivate (Galaxy S) and that thing is ugly compared to the HD2
such problem
I have such problem with battery drain under WM, after i run and quit android, but i found a solution, just pull out your battery few times next just recharge it and it will be OK .
My phone is 1h30m out of the charges and at 78% battery level, out of those 68% is "phone idle". What is exactly "phone idle" and why it eats so much battery where name suggests on it's own that it shall not be using any battery since it's "idle"
artisticcheese said:
My phone is 1h30m out of the charges and at 78% battery level, out of those 68% is "phone idle". What is exactly "phone idle" and why it eats so much battery where name suggests on it's own that it shall not be using any battery since it's "idle"
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I am having a similar issue. On 2.3.4 HKTW with Faux kernel, battery mod and Battery level fix. Phone Idle is draining the battery.
jiggytom said:
I am having a similar issue. On 2.3.4 HKTW with Faux kernel, battery mod and Battery level fix. Phone Idle is draining the battery.
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Do you have a feeling this started happening after "battery fix"? I feel like it started happening since I install fix yesterday.
I had the same problem, both before and after the battery fix. I cant get my atrix to last 12 hours with light use before its crying to be charged. Just installed the battery fix and Ninja rom last night; ill give that a try and see how it goes.
Man guys, I'm just rooted, and running the latest stock rom, and I'm amazed at how awesome the battery life is. I can go for almost a day and a half. I do most of my rss feed reading on my phone, and I tend to go for hour long jogs with it strapped to my arm running gps.
Maybe my usage model has something to do with it. When I'm not running, I'm either at home or at work, where I connect to wifi. That might have something to do with my stellar battery performance.
i have the same problem it started yesterday well noticed it yesterday
i went with the new recovery and after a bad install of ninja
installed the new cherryblur I had a problem with the new recovery wipeing user data and had to reinstall after a wipe with fastboot. dont know what the problem is.
artisticcheese said:
My phone is 1h30m out of the charges and at 78% battery level, out of those 68% is "phone idle". What is exactly "phone idle" and why it eats so much battery where name suggests on it's own that it shall not be using any battery since it's "idle"
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i had exactly the same issue with Kenn´s rom and Faux kernel...
after a week testing with everything i can tell you that the guilty was the Kernel.
Flash again the rom that you have been using but do not install that kernel.
Cheers!
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i had exactly the same issue with Kenn´s rom and Faux kernel...
after a week testing with everything i can tell you that the guilty was the Kernel.
Flash again the rom that you have been using but do not install that kernel.
Cheers!
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sounds like a good place to start. ill give it a go!
edit: this mornig i set my set cpu profile to the lowest setting while screen is off ond just notices phone idle is down to 45%
ill post back if i have more data
The less you are physically using your phone, the higher the percentage of usage Phone Idle will have. Typically, for a normal user Phone Idle will ALWAYS be the highest usage.
Diviance said:
The less you are physically using your phone, the higher the percentage of usage Phone Idle will have. Typically, for a normal user Phone Idle will ALWAYS be the highest usage.
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this is true. if your not using anything else to drain your battery something will always show up on the list. say you lost 20% of battery in 4 hrs. you have had it sleeping the whole time. well that list looks at what applications have been running so it builds a list on what took out the 20% so if you didnt do anything phone idle would have taken say 78% of the 20% of battery you lost. it doesnt mean its draining your battery more then normal. it means it was the only thing to drain the battery at all. followed by display, android system etc....
International user here with 2.3.4 ORANGEFR. After flashing edgan's kernel my battery issues are pretty much gone. I undervolted as much as I could. At 70% battery right now with 8 hours of moderate use.
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The less you are physically using your phone, the higher the percentage of usage Phone Idle will have. Typically, for a normal user Phone Idle will ALWAYS be the highest usage.
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That's fine but the problem (see original post) that despite low usage I do have big battery drain and in this case "idle" is in fact appears to be eating 2/3 of it.
I'm in the orange already after little use today and i've only been unplugged for 6hours. I just flashed GB on friday.
Normally I would suggest installing the app Spare Parts to monitor which apps run the heaviest while the phone is supposed to be sleeping...however, on the Gingerbread ROMs, Spare Parts can't show you those stats anymore...very unfortunate.
but spare parts+ can
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That's fine but the problem (see original post) that despite low usage I do have big battery drain and in this case "idle" is in fact appears to be eating 2/3 of it.
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you never post what android version you are using, im assuming HKTW on ATT atrix? i had the same problem with that build, its full of problems. dont bother installing apps to try to figure out what is draining your battery, its the build itself it is known to have battery issues. theres def a problem if the phone is using 22% on just 1.5h of idle. there's no fix for it. install either ken's gingerbread rom or one of the other roms based on ATT 2.3.4. theres no battery issues with those
neotekz said:
you never post what android version you are using, im assuming HKTW on ATT atrix? i had the same problem with that build, its full of problems. dont bother installing apps to try to figure out what is draining your battery, its the build itself it is known to have battery issues. theres def a problem if the phone is using 22% on just 1.5h of idle. there's no fix for it. install either ken's gingerbread rom or one of the other roms based on ATT 2.3.4. theres no battery issues with those
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Well, no REAL battery issues. The meter still jumps around wildly unless you have the fix installed if you are using the 1% mod. So you can reboot and suddenly have 20-40% more battery than before.
artisticcheese said:
That's fine but the problem (see original post) that despite low usage I do have big battery drain and in this case "idle" is in fact appears to be eating 2/3 of it.
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Have you done the battery fix for the GB ROMs? Without it, the drain is reported as being more than it really is.
Have you set up a more conservative profile under the battery management (or wherever the hell it is)?? With light usage, change your settings there to be less performance based, since you apparently don't need it.
And as previously stated...SOMETHING will use your battery. That will either be idle, or Angry Birds. If you aren't using apps, the browser, etc...then idle consumes battery. Use your phone more...or adjust your profile settings to be much more conservative (including turning data off after a shorter time period).
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Well, no REAL battery issues. The meter still jumps around wildly unless you have the fix installed if you are using the 1% mod. So you can reboot and suddenly have 20-40% more battery than before.
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this is a very minor problem that doesnt effect battery life as in it doesnt shorten battery life. it jumps up after reboot but if you use it for a while it will jump back down on its own. there is also a fix that works so its not an issue anymore.
I'm using Kenneth ROM with default kernel. Idle is still top consumer ( more then screen for example). I did not do battery calibration but will do now but I don't think this will fix the issue.
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Hello friends,
Here finally I upgraded to ICS and honestly I get great ( huge ) battery life..
before also I get upgrade and i get very low battery life because of low calibration of battery without my knowledge..
so I've reverted back to gingerbread 2.3.5 and I'm happy
But who wants older version when the new shiny and superb upgrade of ICS is there anyone ???
So finally I upgraded to ICS and after many searching ,, finding ,,, reading and confusion with doubt The great battery life will be came out from our Loving SGN.. so please do not get disappointed just see below.
Really here I provide you some small and very easy steps by using it you will be definitely be happy with your ICS upgrade ..
you doesn't have to go anywhere and doesn't have to buy anything with your valuable money ..
Really happy
Then read it and get longer and more juice from your battery..
you have to follow some easy steps below
1 . First upgrade your ICS from any source whichever you like ... by kies air or Kies on PC or mobile odin or Via PC ODIN [ please do full charge of battery before any upgrade low battery can make your phone unusable or dead you can get more info on other threads ]
2 . Hope you have upgraded successfully.. then use your phone till your battery goes down to 5 % or below...
[ Caution ] Do not use it till it switched off automatically.
3 . Plug your charger and charge it till morning if you are charging at night or else charge it around 6 to 7 Hours even after full charged .. it's important step.. Do not Ignore it ..
4 . and then use it as per your requirements till battery shows 5% or below
5 . Repeat the step 3
6 . Do it around 8 or more charging cycles.
You get really miracle after 3 or 4 full cycles...
[ caution ] do not overcharge after that i.e just do 6 to 7 hours charging for around 5 - 6 cycles ... after that charge till battery shows full charge i.e around 3 - 4 hours. do not overcharge ..
made it habit of full charge cycles if you are comfortable with it. it really gives great battery life then average battery life.
Hope It'll be helpful to you
Regards
It is better to charge randomly than doing full charges every time on Li-Ion batteries.
Doing full charges every time on Li-Ion will result in battery being end-of-life faster...
Overcharging is also bull****. The phone automatically stops charging the battery when it's fully charged.
_breez_ said:
It is better to charge randomly than doing full charges every time on Li-Ion batteries.
Doing full charges every time on Li-Ion will result in battery being end-of-life faster...
Overcharging is also bull****. The phone automatically stops charging the battery when it's fully charged.
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As per research the full cycles of Li-on battery gives good hold of charge and also batter life..
in all honesty your post is as useless as mine right now.
According to me, It can be considered as myth . . If the battery needed to be calibrated then it must have been official.. n 2ndly the procedure above is not professional at all... So dnt even think it wud work.... Neways someone can always try and authenticate...:thumbup:
Noted by the BEAST!!
KAASHP said:
As per research the full cycles of Li-on battery gives good hold of charge and also batter life..
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Doing full charges for calibrating the battery: no problem if you do it once in a while
But you are suggesting people to ALWAYS do full charges on their Li-Ion battery...
8-10 cycles after eachother is too much as well. 2 charges will be enough.
thanks for more info bro
maybe 2 is enough but in many cases it'll be not...
Why do you need to do this just because the OS has changed? And if so then why is it not require on GB?
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Doing full charges for calibrating the battery: no problem if you do it once in a while
But you are suggesting people to ALWAYS do full charges on their Li-Ion battery...
8-10 cycles after eachother is too much as well. 2 charges will be enough.
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I totally agree with you!
Also, never let a battery dry for long periods, it will be damaged beyond repair.
Lithium Ion batteries perform better when you keep it as charged as possible.
I call this thread BS too... But I thank the user for the effort
Yeah ICS battery life sucks. I've done what OP said and I still get 4 hours less Battery life than what gingerbread would give me.
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Why do you need to do this just because the OS has changed? And if so then why is it not require on GB?
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It's essential because all the states of your battery will be wiped in most of the cases while you upgrade also it's helpful to you if you upgrade your ROM.
inurb said:
yeah ics battery life sucks. I've done what op said and i still get 4 hours less battery life than what gingerbread would give me.
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ok bro try this procedure and also report us..
In most of cases we have solved this issue with this procedure even i had this issue before now it works like a charm.
I did several full drain and full charge cycles when I upgraded to ICS. Still got the battery drain bug so I think its more luck than anything else if your battery lasts.
In my case I've discovered that power cycling the device after charging is the most reliable approach.
Install CPU Spy, run it after a charge, reset the timers, and then leave your phone in standby (screen off) for 30s or so. Unlock the phone again, and check CPU Spy - if the 'Deep Sleep' cycle is unused then do a phone restart. This has worked EVERY time for both me and a friend who I told about it. I'm getting similar battery performance to when I was running GB!
Battery life depends on a lot of things, ROM version is not the main thing.
This is my setup:
ICS version LQ3
Speedmod 3-3 Kernel
Disabled a lot of Samsung stuff (Readers hub, social hub...)
No automatic sync of twitter, e-mail, etc
I get pretty much zero battery drain when in deep sleep mode.
Of course when using the phone, screen on, Wifi On, autobrightness... battery usage is bigger and you can drain the battery in only 4 hours if you go for it.
Be careful with:
- Live wallpapers, I've seen cases where they remain active all the time
- Apps syncing data on background every few minutes (facebook, twitter, etc)
- Apps uploading a lot of data on background (google+, dropbox..)
- Games that crash and leave the CPU in a high power state until you reboot
Agree
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Battery life depends on a lot of things, ROM version is not the main thing.
This is my setup:
ICS version LQ3
Speedmod 3-3 Kernel
Disabled a lot of Samsung stuff (Readers hub, social hub...)
No automatic sync of twitter, e-mail, etc
I get pretty much zero battery drain when in deep sleep mode.
Of course when using the phone, screen on, Wifi On, autobrightness... battery usage is bigger and you can drain the battery in only 4 hours if you go for it.
Be careful with:
- Live wallpapers, I've seen cases where they remain active all the time
- Apps syncing data on background every few minutes (facebook, twitter, etc)
- Apps uploading a lot of data on background (google+, dropbox..)
- Games that crash and leave the CPU in a high power state until you reboot
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I am agree with this reply.
If you want to get best battery back-up;
Disable all apps which are working in background, sync n update really eat the phone battery.
I am using my note with active mobile network or wi-fi for a whole day and playing games too without doing this F**KING trick.
The only way battery life gets sucked of Galaxy note is if it doesn't go into deep sleep when not in use.
To all those reporting low battery life: How much battery do you end up losing overnight. ( approx 6-8 hrs)
I typically lose <5 % ( best case scenario has been 1 %)
I had a problem last week and lost 30% overnight and found that it deep go into deep sleep.
and the best solution i found in another thread was to unlock the phone before unplugging from charger
Simply try it: For me normal time between charges is 36 hrs ( battery is near 25% level)
Witches broom battery modification
Battery Lifecycles are connected with the phases of the moon. So you'll get the most out of your battery if you dance at midnight when having full moon spitting five times on your battery.
Many people are of the myth of overcharging n recharging, but its not true wIth lithium batteries, phone will automatically stop charging, if only anything helps its battery calibration,u can do this with a free app called battery calibration, time for the tread to be regarded as close, still useful for noobs
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I get great battery life my phone lasts for months on end without dying. I just plug in the charger every night and my battery has not died yet.
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sanghaviraj said:
Many people are of the myth of overcharging n recharging, but its not true wIth lithium batteries, phone will automatically stop charging, if only anything helps its battery calibration,u can do this with a free app called battery calibration, time for the tread to be regarded as close, still useful for noobs
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Cheers...use BatteryCalibration
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hi everyone,
i have HD2 for 3 years (his battery drain in standby is 5-10 mA) and recently i bought second one, and I'm having problem with his battery drain in standby it never goes under 40mA (with airplane on is the same thing). i did task 29, put the same radio (2.15.50.14), same clk and same rom (NexusHD2-ICS-4.0.4-CM9-HWA V2.7), I try juice defender and it is always above 40mA. On cpu spy I see that phone is in deep sleep 90% of time (similar like my first HD2). I try couple difrent roms and it never goes under 40mA in standby. i swap battery an it didnt change anything. is there anything that i could try or is it that some HD2 just cant get normal standby battery drain? what should I do, any advice will bi appreciated.
thx in advance
Seems like you've tried a fair amount, the only thing I can think of is that the hardware of the new HD2 is somehow faulty. Is the same issue present with all ROMs?
Nigeldg said:
Seems like you've tried a fair amount, the only thing I can think of is that the hardware of the new HD2 is somehow faulty. Is the same issue present with all ROMs?
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yes, with every (four) ROM standby battery drain is above 40 mA, I could try put back win 6.5 but that isn't why I bought this phone
A long shot, but perhaps a dodgy battery pin? Or maybe a dirty connection plate on the battery?
Have you switched the batteries to confirm its the phone not the battery?
samsamuel said:
A long shot, but perhaps a dodgy battery pin? Or maybe a dirty connection plate on the battery?
Have you switched the batteries to confirm its the phone not the battery?
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yes I switch battery and it is the same, still big battery drain on second HD2 and normal on first. battery pins are clear an they looks to be good.
update,
first I put back win mobile 6.5 and battery would drain from 100% to 0% in 30 hours in standby , it is little bit better than android because on android battery last around 16 hours but still it is short standby time. After that I switch just motherboard from bad hd2 to good one and battery drain was bad where the second motherboard was installed, so it is something with motherboard or cpu or gpu and it is hardware problem. Maybe stronger battery could help bit, don't know what to do next
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update,
first I put back win mobile 6.5 and battery would drain from 100% to 0% in 30 hours in standby , it is little bit better than android because on android battery last around 16 hours but still it is short standby time. After that I switch just motherboard from bad hd2 to good one and battery drain was bad where the second motherboard was installed, so it is something with motherboard or cpu or gpu and it is hardware problem. Maybe stronger battery could help bit, don't know what to do next
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i reckon that 16hrs when its on android is good for a hd2 i have a hd2 with extended andina battery in i JUST get a full days use (ie 8am 2 10pm) with normal use thru out the day no mater what rom i have try'd and tbh ive try'd a lot and there on par with each other but if you have all the stuf on ,gps Bluetooth then i get about 6 hrs from it
as i have said b4 this phone was never ment to run android hence why the battery is better in winmo
I agree with you it that it isn't made for android, but there is to big deference between two hd2 that i have, anyway can you send me link of extended battery and what capacity is it?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HTC-HD2-T...808370?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cc10bb7b2
i dont know ware you in the world but you can search worldwide id wait if you cant get one and see if one pops up ,also these gold hd2 batterys you see on there are crap ive try'd one there no better than the htc org battery the andida has a good name but you get what you pay for
have you tr'd a bigger partion on it you may have bad blocks or could be or have been overheated in the past (processor) thats also common i use the nexus 4.0.4 rom and i find it ok
to be honest i don't know, i got it last week for low price as used phone whit win mobile on. i did tray bigger partition it didnt help. but i think it might be damaged because last night I turned it off when it was on 20% battery (to save battery) and this morning I couldn't turn it on, battery was dead, so i think it has some hardware malfunction. i will try to find bigger battery (double size in capacity and in size), also don't believe in gold battery , not for that price, thanks for replay
I changed from Note 3 to s 6 edge plus recently
The battery drops 5% per hour overnight when not in use. If I go to bed with less than 40% battery at night I am sure to wake up with my phone switched off in the morning.
When in use with screen on, the battery drips one percent every two minutes. This is the worst battery life I have ever seen in a phone. I was a long loyal customer of samsung and this is my last samsung phone ever.
Extremely disappointed
Please post your battery stats ? so we can have a better understanding of your problem. I suggest you install 'Doze' which should stop unnecessary apps from connecting to the internet and causing your phone to awake from deep sleep.
Dear Akbar 11
Heres the battery stats....is it normal?
I had the same issue, and as far as I managed to find out, it is a bug in Samsung's kernel. Flashing Arter97 kernel solved the issue for, but do post battery stats from SmartManager. If it says 'Android' or 'Android OS', then you have the same problem many of us do.
I don't think it's a kernel problem. My android OS is very low 4%. Like zoolok said post your battery stats from settings, battery, battery usage
I have the same problem. Battery was great before I flash custom rom. After going back to stock I have big battery draining. I must stay on custom rom. With Audax rom and Skyhigh kernel i have great battery life.
You have either messed up something big or you have an app in the background that is eating up your battery like no tomorrow.
And the reason i say that is because i recently got this battery life on my Galaxy S6 edge+.
And this was taken 2 days ago.
Here i use the CRISSCROSS ROM, AudaxPro Kernel, Greeinify and Samsung's own 'Appoptimizing' feature (same as Doze in Android 6.0).
So my battery life is pretty awesome.
i have problem whit battery lose 25% when i sleep
This is a usual day with s6 edge plus
Any help?
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Any help?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
i have this problem battery ... if u fixed it tell me how?
Well I was expecting Google Play Services to be eating your battery (which is quite common) but it looks like your Andriod OS is eating the most battery. I would uninstall Facebook and use the web version it always helps with the ram and battery furthermore, turn off location if you are not using it and check accounts which are being synced. These are the only tips I can give you as I have never seen Android OS drain so much battery.
Since a few days Google Play Store is eating up my battery: I go to sleep with 100% batt and wake up with 50%, if I check batt stats on top I have play store at 45%, with 5h active a d 2h of CPU.
Follows Android system at 5%.
Going crazy why...
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This is a usual day with s6 edge plus
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You've charged your phone 4 times during that day. I can't see what's the interesting part here.