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Today, around 5:00pm CST, I found that I could no longer update or find many of my installed apps. This has happened several times in the past, usually after installing a new custom ROM. I am currently on Simple Streak 1.2 with PerfUpdate.
I tried all of the "tricks" I know to get it to work. Cleared the cache and data in the Market app. I use v2.3.6 of the Market, so I installed the latest v3.4.4. All installed apps showed up but nearly all of the PAID apps said "not compatible". I also changed the fingerprint in build.prop. NOTHING WORKED!
I called Google Market Help tonight and after 20 minutes of clearing data and cache in Market app, Un-mounting and re-mounting sd card, and explaining to the tech that I have never been able to send apps from the Market to my Streak when logged into the Market on my PC, the tech put me on hold for 2-3 minutes. When he returned, he asked if my device was rooted and if it had a non-stock ROM. I answered yes to both. He then told me that Google has locked me out of my PAID apps because I have violated the Market policy by rooting and modifying the ROM in my device. He went on to say that "ROM developers put malicious code in their ROMs" and for that reason I was locked out of my PAID apps. He told me that I would be able to access my paid apps if I re-install the stock ROM and do not re-root the device.
I pointed out that there are numerous apps sold in the Market that are specifically for rooted devices or for rooting devices. He said this is true as Google does not limit the content of the apps. Only the access to the Market following purchase of those apps. I told him if I wanted a locked down device that I would have purchased an iPhone.
I have not changed my ROM since the day Simple Streak v1.2 was released. He said they finally caught up with me today. I guess I am a Rooted Android Criminal!!!
Since speaking with him, I have discovered many of my purchased apps are "no longer compatible or not found" as are a few of the free apps, primarily any free app dealing with rooting the device such as Root Explorer, Lookout Security, and Handcent SMS. Paid apps include Kaiten Mail, 3g Watchdog Pro, Visual Voicemail Plus.
I tried restoring a Nandroid backup from yesterday before the problem started but it didn't help.
I'm wondering if I just install the DSC Gingerbread Rom instead of the "Original Stock ROM", would the Market work? Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I also asked if installing apps from Amazon would cause this problem. He said "it shouldn't." He didn't say "NO." Could this be Google tightening up things to increase Market sales and shut out Amazon? Just speculating.
I am also curious if anyone else is having this difficulty. Either with a Streak 5 or any other Android device. Seems Big Bother is Watching!!!
kraz
OMG.
Looks like new piracy wave is coming soon with such policy changes.
Time to reread Market agreement.
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2.1 and 2.2 clearly states they can do it.
Use black markets and be black ninja
_n0p_ said:
OMG.
Looks like new piracy wave is coming soon with such policy changes.
Time to reread Market agreement.
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2.1 and 2.2 clearly states they can do it.
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I don't dispute that. The problem seems to be that they ARE doing that. I wonder what % of Android devices are rooted and what % have a custom ROM?
If I can't use the Market, I will have to get the updates and new apps somewhere else. The developers are the ones that will take the financial hit for this policy. That's too bad. The weird part is that I am locked out of my PAID apps, not very many of the free ones. That doesn't make any sense. I'm being punished for supporting the developers?!!!
kraz
If I remember correctly LA for devs states that Google can freely remove/limit access for published apps.
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Have you only one Android device to check whether device or full account is locked?
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Anyway, i'd feel absolutely clean using pirated, but previously paid for apps.
But just to get more paranoid - more and more people use Google services. For business too. Time to rethink "let's move it to cloud" strategy and move data you really need access everytime and everywhere to own file/mail solutions?
According to the tech, my device is locked out until I re-install the "Original Stock ROM from the Manufacturer". He said I would then get full access again and I will be able to update the ROM to "any newer Stock ROMs released by the original manufacturer."
Personally, I'm not convinced it isn't because of the few Amazon apps I have installed.
kraz
@_n0p_
Would changing the fingerprint in build prop to something new, open the Market? If so, would you PM me the fingerprint line from the DSC ROM? Thank you!
kraz
It would be a major pain, but you could make a nandroid backup of your current setup, then install a stock rom (preferably 407, since you wouldn't need to change baseband), set it up minimally (basically just go through the initial setup with your google account), and make a nandroid of it. Verify that market works in the stock rom, then switch via nandroid restore. My guess would be that Google is only randomly spot checking and you could go possibly months before being "kicked" again. When that happens, make another nandroid backup (to be current), then restore the stock nandroid backup, check the market, and restore back. The downside is about 20 minutes of your time each time you get kicked. I searched the internet for similar cases to yours and thankfully couldn't find much. Almost all results were related to renting movies and had nothing to do with apps.
I'm running DSC and here is the fingerprint:
ro.build.fingerprint=google/sojua/crespo:2.3.6/GRK39C/178324:user/release-keys
I was trying to figure out why would google care what rom we have installed, rooted or not. I guess they don't like that we can remove advertising on the free software. diane
Thanks to _n0p_ and lordmorphous for the DSC fingerprint.
Unfortunately, it didn't work. However, more of my paid apps are accessible today. I have no idea why that would change. The remaining apps that I have already paid for will have to get updated through a black market site. I have already paid for them so I don't feel guilty about updating that way. Also, I have contacted several of the devs and they are willing to send me the updates directly as I have helped them beta test in the past.
Thanks to all for your suggestions and help!
kraz
The same thing happened to me... then i switched to power_rom evergreen and things was back to normal...
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My streak is coming with 2.2 (will arrive on Tuesday) Are there other DELL updates ??
shEEEsh said:
My streak is coming with 2.2 (will arrive on Tuesday) Are there other DELL updates ??
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There's the Korean Olleh 2.3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20509757#post20509757
On topic, what Google are doing is shocking. I have not rooted since adb does all I want to do, but I think that locking people out of their paid apps is a horrible move.
Are you running any custom DPI? I am guessing that may more to do with this.
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Are you running any custom DPI? I am guessing that may more to do with this.
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Yes, for the past 14 months! But that has nothing to do with this problem. As I said in my OP, Google Market Help tech said in a phone conversation that I have been locked out of my paid apps because my device is rooted and has a custom ROM. The Market worked perfectly until 5pm yesterday. Nothing on my device changed to create this problem. The tech said Google wants to tighten things up as they are convinced that rooted and custom ROM'd devices are the source of the viruses in the Market. He said, "Developers of custom ROMs intentionally put malicious code in their ROMs."
This problem isn't the same problem we had when we were first using DJ Steve's ROMs in 2010. That was due to fingerprint and screen density issues.
kraz
I found a fix!!!
This app LCD Density Modder Pro (must be the PRO version) $2.99 in The Market fixed my problem, and that of every poster so far in that thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428830
Well worth the money!!! TAKE THAT GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kraz
I ran into the "app not compatible" issue after playing around with build.prop and some wifi settings. I did some searching and it appears all you usually need to do is clear the data and cache of "Google Services Framework".
Go to settings)applications)manage applications)all)google services framework,
clear both,
go back to market and give it a few seconds to a minute to populate your apps and try to update.
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krazman325 said:
This app LCD Density Modder Pro (must be the PRO version) $2.99 in The Market fixed my problem, and that of every poster so far in that thread found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1428830
Well worth the money!!! TAKE THAT GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kraz
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If that worked, do you have a non-standard dpi?
If you did then it's (likely) simply a combination of:
1) Service rep spouting FUD
2) The way the market works now
The pro version (seems) to only include a link to a modified version of the market with dpi checking dummied out.
My preferred dpi is 200. HOWEVER, I changed my dpi with Blade Buddy to standard 160 and it still didn't work. Using LCD Density Modder with 160 made ALL my installed apps visible AND, more importantly, compatible to upgrade to my Streak. My Streak remains at 200dpi when I leave the Market and return to Home Screen and other apps.
Trust me, this is no placebo! It really works. Some of my apps have been unable to upgrade to the next release since I first used DJ Steves StreakDroid 1.46 custom Froyo 12/2010!!!
As for service rep spouting FUD....I prefer to call it spouting BS!
kraz
Telal said:
I ran into the "app not compatible" issue after playing around with build.prop and some wifi settings. I did some searching and it appears all you usually need to do is clear the data and cache of "Google Services Framework".
Go to settings)applications)manage applications)all)google services framework,
clear both,
go back to market and give it a few seconds to a minute to populate your apps and try to update.
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Saw that and did that. All it did was make EVERY one of my free apps disappear from the My Apps Market list. And the paid apps ALL became incompatible. I was better off before I tried this technique.
LCD Density Modder Pro fixed it perfectly in less than 5 minutes from the time I tapped "BUY".
kraz
Switching DPIs doesnt make it instantly detected by the market app, if you just do nothing and wait it can take days to be detected.
Clearing the market cache makes it faster, but even that isnt always instant.
i google'd this but can't find anything on it and was wondering if the s3 is the first phone that allows users to disable at&t services without root. this is my first android device so i wouldn't know if that's true...
anyway, i have hotspots, navigator, messages, and updater. Carat is saying updater uses a lot of my battery, but that is the only one i can't disable in the application management menu in settings. however, i assume if i disable the other 3 then updater will have nothing to update and will consume less battery (hopefully).
has anyone tried to disable these programs with success, i.e. without it causing problems to your phone?
im not sure. but i did try to uninstall one and then it just showed up that it needed a update so i ended up redownloading the app because im so OCD about having updates not done
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tuffluck said:
i google'd this but can't find anything on it and was wondering if the s3 is the first phone that allows users to disable at&t services without root. this is my first android device so i wouldn't know if that's true...
anyway, i have hotspots, navigator, messages, and updater. Carat is saying updater uses a lot of my battery, but that is the only one i can't disable in the application management menu in settings. however, i assume if i disable the other 3 then updater will have nothing to update and will consume less battery (hopefully).
has anyone tried to disable these programs with success, i.e. without it causing problems to your phone?
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You go into the application manager and DISABLE the app. I have gotten rid of ALL the ATT bloatware this way. Works sort of like
Titanium Backup but you do not need the root. Great option.
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This is actually one of the 'features' of ICS (being able to disable apps w/o needing root). It basically very similar to "freezing" apps in TiBackup if you have root. It's generally much safer than outright deleting an app since if you do find you need it you can always re-enable it.
Make sure you have "auto update" unchecked in Google play first. Go to manage apps in settings and then go to "all".
Disable the ones that you don't need which is prolly a lot. You can also hide them if you want. While in your app drawer hit the menu button and choose hide apps.
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Hi there,
I have a question about the Samsung Galaxy S5 which I wonder if anyone else has noticed...
Basically I got a message from Samsung Apps store telling me that I have updates available for some preinstalled/built-in apps. These are:
* S Note
* Optical Reader
* S Translator
* Scrapbook
However here is the interesting part. These applications are not installed on my phone! At least they don't seem like they are. For instance, they are not under the Apps menu and they don't show under Application Manager -> All.
Moreover, if I update Scrapbook then (and only then) the app is shown under the Application Manager. What is even more interesting is that if I click on the application under Application Manager, it then gives me the option to uninstall the application, instead of the option to uninstall updates which is what I really get with built-in apps such as Gmail, S Health, etc.
So if I uninstall Scrapbook after I installed it (agian, the available option is to uninstall the entire app - ot the updates as if it was a built-in app), the app disappears from my phone (as expected), and then it shows back as an available update for a preinstalled/built-in app! How weird is that?!
Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Try opening Samsung Apps, then select the option Purchased under Settings. There under Updates I can see the apps available for updates with in fact does not exist in my Android phone. I wonder if anyone else can replicate this issue?
I thought those were all installed previously, maybe I don't remember but it's not such an bad thing. They want you to try their apps to get their experience. It's understandable considering they include their own app store and some apps preinstalled.
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I have the same issue. I put it down to Samsung poor wording. It's a little annoying but I can live with it.
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I thought those were all installed previously, maybe I don't remember but it's not such an bad thing. They want you to try their apps to get their experience. It's understandable considering they include their own app store and some apps preinstalled.
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Actually they are NOT all installed previously, and the issue is that Samsung Store keeps bugging me to update them when in fact I don't want to install them. So this is not understandable at all...
Same for me, today I disabled auto updates amd notifications in the Samsung app
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Same for me, today I disabled auto updates amd notifications in the Samsung app
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Hah. in fact it just added two more apps under the "updates" tab. Samsung AllShare Cast Dongle S/W Update and NNL Fingerprint Passport.
VERY ANNOYING But I did what you suggested and disabled the auto updates.
I keep getting this happen to me too.
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i wonder if it is because the apks are installed, but not activated at a system level....
i bet you the "bloat" is built into the stock ROM somehow....maybe that's why it is recognizing it as "update" rather than "install"
I find this annoying as well. My phone belongs to the company so I don't want to root it until there's a workaround for knox so I disabled or stopped a lot of Samsung apps. I'm still getting updates for them. I went on their support website and complained. I got a response. (A lame response, but at least a response.) I also complained to the Samsung app store. Complaining here is guaranteed to not make any difference. Complaining to Samsung might eventually make a difference if enough people do it.
I just disabled the Samsung store app since I could care less about Samsung's crummy store and their apps.
Same here - I went through and "updated" all of them before realising that they weren't even installed so I uninstalled them. Some of the apps were ones that were installed as standard on the S4 - so I'm guessing that they're apps that Samsung recommend you install.
Either way, it means that any *real* updates for apps that are only in the Samsung store rather than in Play won't happen now as I've disabled Samsung updates. Well done Samsung.
Since I can't delete my own thread, I will post the answer to my stupidity here. Moderators, please feel free to delete this if you think that is best. Somehow in Google Play settings I had hidden the phone in question. I have no recollection of doing this nor do I know why I would have done that, but nonetheless my phone was not checked as a visible phone and therefore was not showing up in Google's Android Device Manager.
Original Question... misplaced my phone today and I discovered that when I go online to find it it is not seen on Google's Android device manager website. The phone is not even listed as one of my devices (and yes, I am using the correct account). I have since found the phone and I can verify that Android device manager is cheked under the security settings. I am rooted and I have frozen some apps but nothing that I think would cause Android device manager to not work. I have deactivated and reactivated ADM to no avail. No matter wat i do i can I get my phone to show up online. This could be problematic if I were to ever really leave my phone somewhere and need to find it.
Does anyone have any ideas as to what I may be missing? Is there an app I may be frozen but should not have or something else I may have done? I do have xposed installed with a few modules but nothing that I would think would affect the service.
I tried the clearing data in Google settings apk as suggested for other phones, but no luck.
Thanks for this. I'm guessing this was my problem on my note II.
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Hi fellows,
So I was reading about how to root my phone and use the app freedom, you know to buy in app goods, so I did root my phone and installed freedom, it worked fine however now after a while I'm having this issue, my in app billing service is not working.
Whenever I try to buy anything from an app it just doesn't pop the validation window and on some apps, such as fleksy doesn't show the buy button only a get button which does not do anything.
I have kitkat 4.4.2, I have tried to erase the google play store cache, I have modified the host file, including a # at the beginning of 127.0.0.1; I have unistalled the freedom app and still wasn't able to fix my problem.
In one of the apps I got the message: unable to connect to android market billing, which makes me think it is the service is not working properly or even worst, I got banned.
Any ideas?
I highly appreciate your help and comments.
did you disable freedom before uninstalling?
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did you disable freedom before uninstalling?
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I did, I also installed it again and still same issue.
Well, I just spent over 30 minutes between 4 reps with Samsung, none of them could fix it and sent a ticket to "developers"; being an IT professional and frustrated, even more so, I poked around a bit and found the fix.
Go to Galaxy Apps in your Application Manager, click on "storage". Clear both data and cache, relaunch Galaxy Apps and you should be good to go (I was at this point). All fixed for me.