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Kernel issue - Bricked By a Stunner Rom version

Hi everyone, I was one of the people who bricked their phone by flashing the ICS Stunner Rom. I thought it would nice if there was a place where we could discuss how to go about solving this. I'm aware that we'll probably just have to send our phones in for repair but I thought it would be best to look at all the options first.

I've ran many versions of the stunner rom without issues. I find it hard to believe you are bricked.
Describe your situation. If the display turns on, you are not bricked. Have you tried connecting to a PC and see if Odin can see your phone?

gedster314 said:
I've ran many versions of the stunner rom without issues. I find it hard to believe you are bricked.
Describe your situation. If the display turns on, you are not bricked. Have you tried connecting to a PC and see if Odin can see your phone?
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Uninformed fail.
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octavian90 said:
Uninformed fail.
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Your right. Why don't you just give the guy razor blades and sleeping tablets even before he explains his issue.
Yes I'm new to the Note but I have brought back many phones back from the "BRICK".

Nothing works, I can't boot into download or recovery

Any ICS kernel based on the leaks seems to carry a danger of permanent damage to the eMMC.
So far the only safe Samsung ICS kernels seem to be those based on the I9100 update4 source base.

Well what would you recommend I do from here though? I want to get this fixed as soon as possible.

Check the end of stunner thread... Send it to mobile video review for jtag
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every time i consider bumping to a Custom ICS I see a thread like this or some issue that is a showstopper for me.
I'm glad I haven't yet had ICS.

I'm also in the same boat as you. I flashed it and it turned into a brick thinking it was the battery being drained. Plugged the phone in and the the phone didn't respond so I knew something went really wrong. Then the bricked news followed on the thread. There is pretty much nothing we can do right now but to send it out to get a JTAG, which is not a guaranteed fix either according to some folks in the thread. The very last resort is to replace the mainboard.

sutekidane said:
I'm also in the same boat as you. I flashed it and it turned into a brick thinking it was the battery being drained. Plugged the phone in and the the phone didn't respond so I knew something went really wrong. Then the bricked news followed on the thread. There is pretty much nothing we can do right now but to send it out to get a JTAG, which is not a guaranteed fix either according to some folks in the thread. The very last resort is to replace the mainboard.
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don't lower your hopes down, I've seen countless and numerous times of Bricked Notes being revived and restored thru JTAG. This process is the much low level process you can get of restoring your Note into it's normal process. I don't see why your Note can't be restored if it's done thru JTAG.
(Not unless you have a broken ICs or chipsets already, which contitutes a hardware failure and that's the time you may have to replace it.)
JTAG is trusted already and proven to restore almost all bricked Notes.
Just from my own experiences..
Cheers

Its not coz of stunner from... its coz of lp5 kernel with a malfunctioned recovery during system partition format... so please change your title
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sorry to hear that guys i was very reluctant to switch from stunner 5 to any other version....im staying with 5 until it gets stable.....i heard about the bricking earlier today....thats ****ed ...i know they figured it out already...and lp5 is part of the problem as well....good luck

MrSlippyFist said:
sorry to hear that guys i was very reluctant to switch from stunner 5 to any other version....im staying with 5 until it gets stable.....i heard about the bricking earlier today....thats ****ed ...i know they figured it out already...and lp5 is part of the problem as well....good luck
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Just installed 1 4.26... I would recommend you to try it...its on another level than beta 5 ...very smooth n stable
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thebz1 said:
Hi everyone, I was one of the people who bricked their phone by flashing the ICS Stunner Rom. I thought it would nice if there was a place where we could discuss how to go about solving this. I'm aware that we'll probably just have to send our phones in for repair but I thought it would be best to look at all the options first.
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try to use jig bro maybe it will solve the gnote

Oh no...not another CWM touch recovery-esque fiasco. I thought we were over that? And, damn that sucks dude. I've been in your exact shoes. This is my second phone, and I currently use Stunner as my daily driver...so I'm a bit worried now!

androidindian said:
Its not coz of stunner from... its coz of lp5 kernel with a malfunctioned recovery during system partition format... so please change your title
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so why aren't the other roms running lp5 bricking the phone?

androidindian said:
Its not coz of stunner from... its coz of lp5 kernel with a malfunctioned recovery during system partition format... so please change your title
No it's a specific problème of stunner... It happens...
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thebz1 said:
Well what would you recommend I do from here though? I want to get this fixed as soon as possible.
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do you have a JIG or the tools to create one by yourself ? this seems your only solution for now, anyway does your phone enter to boot animation or it just doesn't flick ?!

there isnt much any of us who had our phones bricked can do about, and yes it was a version of ics stunner that did the damage, i have a feeling its gonna be a motherboard replacement

LPY ROM. Performance is fine. Do i need to worry?

I have flashed my rooted SGN to LPY ROM using mobile ODIN. First two days i had issues however now it seems fine.
1. Battery working fine 24Hrs on average with single charge (With 3G and Wifi on always)
2. No issues with screen or swype.
3. No issues with any other apps as of now
With all the Kernel related posts i'm a little worried. My phone kernel also shows as XXLPY. Please suggest if I need to do anythig to fix it.
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just do not do any full wipe, either from phone or CWM and you should be safe.

cracklenet said:
I have flashed my rooted SGN to LPY ROM using mobile ODIN. First two days i had issues however now it seems fine.
1. Battery working fine 24Hrs on average with single charge (With 3G and Wifi on always)
2. No issues with screen or swype.
3. No issues with any other apps as of now
With all the Kernel related posts i'm a little worried. My phone kernel also shows as XXLPY. Please suggest if I need to do anythig to fix it.
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Danger lies in changing ROMs, as long as you keep it you're safe.
Should you decide to flash sth different, then read the instructions several times, then again, and one more time, part of the bricks happened due to small mistakes by experienced flashers.
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Is Full wipe and Factory Reset the same?
After installing the ROM i had done a factory reset. Nothing happemed but for some setting changes. I'm able the use without issues.
Please advise.
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cracklenet said:
Is Full wipe and Factory Reset the same?
After installing the ROM i had done a factory reset. Nothing happemed but for some setting changes. I'm able the use without issues.
Please advise.
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yeah someone pls reply to this question cause i flashed LPY twice and i did the factory reset and cleared the cache but did not get any problem.

I also flashed and wiped a couple of times while in LPY. I'm having no problems so far, but I read someone tried to flash with PC Odin and brocked because his eMMC was ALREADY damaged.
Is there a way to know if my device has some kind of damage?

aami.aami said:
yeah someone pls reply to this question cause i flashed LPY twice and i did the factory reset and cleared the cache but did not get any problem.
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Wipe data/factory reset is where the problem lies. You can do it and be fine but you could do it again and be bricked. I did a wipe after install before the problem was known.
Just do what has already been posted don't factory reset from cwm or settings. If changing rom read everything several times before flashing
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cracklenet said:
I have flashed my rooted SGN to LPY ROM using mobile ODIN. First two days i had issues however now it seems fine.
1. Battery working fine 24Hrs on average with single charge (With 3G and Wifi on always)
2. No issues with screen or swype.
3. No issues with any other apps as of now
With all the Kernel related posts i'm a little worried. My phone kernel also shows as XXLPY. Please suggest if I need to do anythig to fix it.
Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
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I am in the same boat as you bro. I think that you should stick to ICS for now. I am doing the same. It seems that google and samsung are already aware of this bug so i choose to wait instead of risking a bad flash. It seems that none of the methods are 100% right now so just i recommend you stick to ICS just be cautious and don't delete large files (larger than 1gb) and don't use CWM nor factory reset for now... In the end we are lucky we didnt get our devices bricked in the first place.

yllivia said:
I am in the same boat as you bro. I think that you should stick to ICS for now. I am doing the same. It seems that google and samsung are already aware of this bug so i choose to wait instead of risking a bad flash. It seems that none of the methods are 100% right now so just i recommend you stick to ICS just be cautious and don't delete large files (larger than 1gb) and don't use CWM nor factory reset for now... In the end we are lucky we didnt get our devices bricked in the first place.
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there is already new ICS LPF, reportedly safe and faster than LPY - there is also/already dr ketan's guide on whats and hows

yllivia said:
I am in the same boat as you bro. I think that you should stick to ICS for now. I am doing the same. It seems that google and samsung are already aware of this bug so i choose to wait instead of risking a bad flash. It seems that none of the methods are 100% right now so just i recommend you stick to ICS just be cautious and don't delete large files (larger than 1gb) and don't use CWM nor factory reset for now... In the end we are lucky we didnt get our devices bricked in the first place.
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yea ,,in the same boat as well and equally confused man .....
wish thr was a magic wand for this to fix it ,,,lol
so i guess most of us are finally deciding to stay on LPY even after entropy is saying to stay away from LPY ?
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p107r0 said:
there is already new ICS LPF, reportedly safe and faster than LPY - there is also/already dr ketan's guide on whats and hows
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u see the issue with that idea is that most of us have already wiped the cache after installing LPY so now trying to go to LPF cud potentially result in bricking it .....what do ?

p107r0 said:
there is already new ICS LPF, reportedly safe and faster than LPY - there is also/already dr ketan's guide on whats and hows
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From what i have read LPF has 0x19 firmware therefore has potentialy the same problem with bricking
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Being afraid of the bug I flashed a rooted GB kernel before using Odin to upgrade from LPY to LPF The bug is apparently in the way the kernel sets the emmc chip erase process This apparently mainly affects the /data partition so flashing a gb kernel should be safe. I then used odin to update to the newer firmware.
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gurnishdhillon said:
yea ,,in the same boat as well and equally confused man .....
wish thr was a magic wand for this to fix it ,,,lol
so i guess most of us are finally deciding to stay on LPY even after entropy is saying to stay away from LPY ?
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u see the issue with that idea is that most of us have already wiped the cache after installing LPY so now trying to go to LPF cud potentially result in bricking it .....what do ?
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As far as i know there has been no reports of bricks on LPF but most of the people that flashed LPF flashed it from GB. We in the other hand are stuck we might have a leftover from flashing LPY. I would rather risk downgrading to GB then jumping to another unsettled ship. I am staying here just taking precautions NOT to use Recovery nor any kind of thing that involves wiping data.
Originally Posted by Chainfire
Ok so it still isn't really clear if the problem is still present in LPY, or if the issue is "left-over" due to previous ROMs.
It's all possible. Either way, what I wan't to make absolutely clear again:
If the problem is present in CF-Root LPY (and it's not a "leftover" problem from previous ROM - this is possibly the case), then it's also present in stock LPY. This means you *can* randomly brick your phone even if fully booted into Android, under heavy I/O load.
(on the Note there normal and recovery kernels are the same, and CWM is just a userspace program, nothing special(!) - so if the problem can happen in CWM, it can happen in Android)
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gurnishdhillon said:
yea ,,in the same boat as well and equally confused man .....
wish thr was a magic wand for this to fix it ,,,lol
so i guess most of us are finally deciding to stay on LPY even after entropy is saying to stay away from LPY ?
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u see the issue with that idea is that most of us have already wiped the cache after installing LPY so now trying to go to LPF cud potentially result in bricking it .....what do ?
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What you can do is only swap the kernel using mobile odin. I swapped it with the LPF CF-Kernel and everything is fine. But be advised, LPF has not been confirmed to be save yet.
Sent from my Galaxy Note running ICS

cracklenet said:
Is Full wipe and Factory Reset the same?
After installing the ROM i had done a factory reset. Nothing happemed but for some setting changes. I'm able the use without issues.
Please advise.
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Yes. The problem is intermittent - you can often wipe once or twice, sometimes even ten times, before getting nailed.
Others (like xplodwild) get nailed the first time.

craig432 said:
From what i have read LPF has 0x19 firmware therefore has potentialy the same problem with bricking
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No, XXLPY/ZSLPF don't "have" the eMMC firmware. The eMMC firmware is part of the eMMC chip itself - right now, whatever you have is what came with your phone. There is currently no way to change it.
The problem is that the firmware has a bug that will cause it to sometimes do VERY bad things if an erase command is sent to it:
I9100 update4 kernels don't support MMC ERASE at all - so they don't trigger the bug in the firmware in the first place
M250S Update5 does - So it triggers the bug - We don't have source for any other ICS kernel yet but I suspect they all have MMC_CAP_ERASE set
What I can't figure out is why Gingerbread isn't dangerous despite having MMC_CAP_ERASE set. I need to read in more detail, but it might be that even if the driver supports MMC_CAP_ERASE, some other change between 2.6.35 and 3.0 makes ERASE get used in situations it didn't get used in previously.
You need two things: buggy firmware (so far, nearly every Note and Exynos-based GS2 has this) and a kernel that will fire ERASE commands at the chip when wiping.
If a method can be found to update the flash chip's firmware, then XXLPY and ZSLPF will become safe when running on fixed chips.

Hey entropy is it possible to use the cm9 kernel with lpy? I'm assuming it is but don't want to take any risks

Somebody please shed light on this ?
- Is it possible that affected kernels inflict damage every time you perform factory reset or wipe data from recovery but it does not brick your phone.
But in future it might get bricked even on safe kernel just because you had used affected kernels ??
**** I had used recovery on LPY many times.

[Q] Confused... ICS leaks can brick the Note, will official releases do the same?

I'm sorry. I SWEAR I read tons of threads but things still aren't clear to me.
ICS leaks seem to possibly brick the Note.
But there are several threads with official ICS firmwares for the Note (ex: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646088)
Can I use the official ICS firmware to upgrade my Note? Or should I wait a bit more?
Thanks!

From what I understand, you should be fine with official ICS as long as you don't do factory/data reset with the stock kernel. What are you using now?

leppo said:
From what I understand, you should be fine with official ICS as long as you don't do factory/data reset with the stock kernel. What are you using now?
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Kernel says 2.6.35.7-N7000UBKK8
I suppose I'll stay on GB. Things look a bit scary even with the stock kernel!

The official can brick the note muaaahuahuahuahuuaaa
Seriously as the previous poster said only if you are into wiping and restoring you MAY be in danger
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fjhuerta said:
I'm sorry. I SWEAR I read tons of threads but things still aren't clear to me.
ICS leaks seem to possibly brick the Note.
But there are several threads with official ICS firmwares for the Note (ex: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646088)
Can I use the official ICS firmware to upgrade my Note? Or should I wait a bit more?
Thanks!
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Well I upgraded my Note and it is completely fine, my friend with a Note as well hasn't told me about his phone being bricked either. But I'm not sure about all the others though, since mine is the Hong Kong official one, and I never use the leaks so they don't really bother me.
Sent from my Galaxy Note

leppo said:
From what I understand, you should be fine with official ICS as long as you don't do factory/data reset with the stock kernel. What are you using now?
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When you say factory reset you mean going into settings and then "data factory reset"? I normally do that after a huge update and format my SD card too. So that is a no no on ICS?
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Hagow said:
When you say factory reset you mean going into settings and then "data factory reset"? I normally do that after a huge update and format my SD card too. So that is a no no on ICS?
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That is correct.

leppo said:
From what I understand, you should be fine with official ICS as long as you don't do factory/data reset with the stock kernel.
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Bull****. I have tried to do wipe from CWM and MobileOdin over and over again more than 15 times at ICS leaks and ICS stocks and custom kernels and custom ROMs. Never got any problem.

anonymous572 said:
Bull****. I have tried to do wipe from CWM and MobileOdin over and over again more than 15 times at ICS leaks and ICS stocks and custom kernels and custom ROMs. Never got any problem.
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You might want to read the stickies in this forum regarding the fact that it's not an issue that effects all users. But it effects some by bricking their phones.
Along with the advice to not tell others that the problem doesn't exist based on your experience.

diji1 said:
You might want to read the stickies in this forum regarding the fact that it's not an issue that effects all users. But it effects some by bricking their phones.
Along with the advice to not tell others that the problem doesn't exist based on your experience.
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Please don't tell others that all N7000 have problems with wiping on ICS roms. I never saw anyone who have this strange wipe "problem".

anonymous572 said:
Please don't tell others that all N7000 have problems with wiping on ICS roms. I never saw anyone who have this strange wipe "problem".
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How can you say that man,,,thr are so many ppl on Xda here that are reporting to have bricked thr devices......or are you saying that as long as you r not rooted , this bricking thing just wudn't happen?

anonymous572 said:
Please don't tell others that all N7000 have problems with wiping on ICS roms. I never saw anyone who have this strange wipe "problem".
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and I never saw anyone without this strange wipe problem, want to know for sure? go install an app by chainfire called got brickbug?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1693704
maybe you are lucky to have an unaffected chip ,but 99.9% of users have a known damaged chip fw.
I suggest you go read the sticky in which it says that some people have wiped 19 times and got a full brick on the 20th attempt ,some even more .
I myself have wiped once safely ,but the second wipe made the emmc go nuts ,luckily however it was not fully dead ,and I restored it ,barely .
besides ,samsung and Google have both confirmed this bug ,so who are you to state otherwise?!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27137024
so I would like to suggest that you stop spreading dangerous miss information to the noobs or I'll report your post next time.

MR.change said:
besides ,samsung and Google have both confirmed this bug ,so who are you to state otherwise?!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27137024
so I would like to suggest that you stop spreading dangerous miss information to the noobs or I'll report your post next time.
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+1
The source of the problem has been found and confirmed...how can people still be ignorant and spread bad advice.
As Mr.change said above, yes there is a problem even with official ICS, you may get lucky but you will run into a problem eventually if you keep wiping data/factory reset with affected ICS kernels...so best not to do so.

What would be the alternative to a factory reset then? I'm waiting to receive a new Note and intend to install stock ICS straight away but I worry that I'll mess up my first ever Android install and have to start again. Could you re.install the update without a wipe?

solarboy said:
What would be the alternative to a factory reset then? I'm waiting to receive a new Note and intend to install stock ICS straight away but I worry that I'll mess up my first ever Android install and have to start again. Could you re.install the update without a wipe?
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if you are new to this then I would advise that you stay way from it till you learn your way around the basics of flashing using PC ODIN ,mobile ODIN ,and recovery.
then flash stock ICS with a safe custom kernels and you should be safe.
besides ,samsung stock ICS isn't that different from GB ,same look and same performance . you'd want to install CM9 to get a taste of true ICS.
so like I said ,take your time ,bricking your new shinny phone can be devastating .

anonymous572 said:
Please don't tell others that all N7000 have problems with wiping on ICS roms. I never saw anyone who have this strange wipe "problem".
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The problem is you don't know if you will hit the problem until you find out the hard way.
Once you've hit the problem there is no recovery.
So stop telling everyone that they are safe because you got lucky.
People who want to run ICS should use a kernel that has a safe configuration (MMC_CAP_ERASE removed from drivers/mmc/host/mshci.c) - This includes, but is not necessarily limited to (check the kernel's info) the CM9 included kernel, Hardcore's Speedmod ICS, and Franco.kernel r3 and above. Be sure to verify that you're running a safe kernel with CPUSpy before dropping into recovery - a few people had Mobile Odin fail to flash a safe kernel when they were on a dangerous one and then bricked because they didn't verify.

شكرا

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شكرا
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you are most welcome my friend
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nandihno said:
The official can brick the note muaaahuahuahuahuuaaa
Seriously as the previous poster said only if you are into wiping and restoring you MAY be in danger
What do u mean..? doing a factory reset is a common thing.. who on this earth doesn't do a factory data reset at all on their phone.. and if u ask me we must do a factory reset after updating to a new rom.
Pity on samsung.. their official builds destroy the phone. I can't believe.. how they released it without testing.. and why didnt the stop their ****ty ics update from being live till now..
i also have a question .. Has Samsung acknowledged the fact that their stock ics can cause bricking issues?
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It was nice to meet you!!

It was nice 8 months experience,just Super bricked my Note while perfotming a wipe with CWM,too bad couldnt claim the warrenty.
Thanks for everyone who helped me during this period,both Developers and Members.
Jack

Sorry for your phone man.
Btw which kernel were you using?

Boy124 said:
Sorry for your phone man.
Btw which kernel were you using?
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German LRK DBT stock 4.0.4 and it was running fine no problems,just wiped it to test the Paranoid Android JB 4.1.1,which was actually the last thing it did.

I see. But you can't flash roms using stock recovery. Anyways it confirms the bug still exists.

What CWM did you use or did you wipe from stock recovery?
Does it give any sign of life?
If it boots you can use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check
to see if you have emmc damage.

jgaviota said:
What CWM did you use or did you wipe from stock recovery?
Does it give any sign of life?
If it boots you can use: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.vinagre.android.emmc_check
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Unfortunately doesnt boot up,just stuck on the Gt-7000 logo but the download screen works,however when try to flash with PC Odin stops at the factoryfs.img which after research discovered is a Superbrick symptom.

hagba said:
too bad couldnt claim the warrenty.
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Hello hagba, since you cannot claim warranty have you thought of getting your device repaired via the Samsung service centre in your region?
I would suggest you to enquire about the repair cost and then make a suitable decision.

Have you tried this? it worked for many users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26285877

YLNdroid said:
Hello hagba, since you cannot claim warranty have you thought of getting your device repaired via the Samsung service centre in your region?
I would suggest you to enquire about the repair cost and then make a suitable decision.
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First thing on monday,

dr.ketan said:
Have you tried this? it worked for many users.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26285877
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Dr.Ketan,
I have tried the PIT procedure,but its such a long and tedious process Im not sure will be able to make viable partition for normal usage.
However will see what Samsung does on Monday.

So does this mean that Stock ROMS are still unsafe to wipe rather than how samsung claims that Stock ROM wont brick?
Did you report this to Entropy? Did you wipe after flashing Paranoid ROM successfully or did you wipe on stock. If it was after succesfully flashing the CM10 based JB ROM, it should mean that CM10 doesnt have MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled or maybe no ICS kernel is safe.
Should report to Entropy if you didnt.

He already.wrote 'wipe it to test jb' means wiped on.stock.
Entropy aleeady aware of this (i have already reported 2 case on 4.0.4). And he hav mentioned on his thread, stock ics are known unsafe kernels.
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dr.ketan said:
He already.wrote 'wipe it to test jb' means wiped on.stock.
Entropy aleeady aware of this (i have already reported 2 case on 4.0.4). And he hav mentioned on his thread, stock ics are known unsafe kernels.
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I made a mistake of wiping twice from Settings under android in Indian Stock DDLP8 stock 4.0.3 but luckily never bricked. But now I take care not to. But do you think I may have caused damage in the first two wipes? I see no issues till now but just asked.

It cause damage once in while, not every wipe/reset result to brick (good if it was like that, sammy must have find solution then)
Still if you have any doubts find 'emmc brick bug' application from market n scan ur device.
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dr.ketan said:
It cause damage once in while, not every wipe/reset result to brick (good if it was like that, sammy must have find solution then)
Still if you have any doubts find 'emmc brick bug' application from market n scan ur device.
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I have the affected emmc firmware VYLOOM 0x19. Its just that I turned out to be lucky. I dont believe Samsung would fix the Indian firmware (4.0.3) while the bug remains on the latest 4.0.4 ROMS. If there is a fix from Samsung, we Indians are the ones who usually get it last. But strangely, I havent heard of any superbricked Indian Notes in this forum.

satishp said:
So does this mean that Stock ROMS are still unsafe to wipe rather than how samsung claims that Stock ROM wont brick?
Did you report this to Entropy? Did you wipe after flashing Paranoid ROM successfully or did you wipe on stock. If it was after succesfully flashing the CM10 based JB ROM, it should mean that CM10 doesnt have MMC_CAP_ERASE disabled or maybe no ICS kernel is safe.
Should report to Entropy if you didnt.
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I think Samsung's claim was that you won't get bricked if you stick to stock and don't root. I'm not saying that's true . Even seems unlikely since I think you can factory wipe from the settings without root, IIRC (memory's rusty, haven't been on a stock ROM for ages).
There were some bricks with CM10, but only from people who flashed from stock ICS or stock ICS based ROMs. Flashing from the safe ICS kernels seems to still be safe.
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But strangely, I havent heard of any superbricked Indian Notes in this forum.
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Maybe that's because Indians are careful enough to read the instructions before risking their device? I doubt it's because Indian Notes have had some special pixie dust sprinkled over them while they passed customs.

If you dont mod your device then how many chances are.there to make hard reset device?
I know lot ppl they purchasing and selling.device without single reset.
So rooting opens.100 ways to explore ur device, simultaneously opens 100 ways to put u in situation,u needs reset. That is the only reason rate.of bricking is high with rooted device, but if you read carefully and avoid reset/wiping there is almost zero chances to brick.
And yes if you look, compare to selling of notes in india, u don't see indians are quite less on forum?
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dr.ketan said:
If you dont mod your device then how many chances are.there to make hard reset device?
I know lot ppl they purchasing and selling.device without single reset.
So rooting opens.100 ways to explore ur device, simultaneously opens 100 ways to put u in situation,u needs reset. That is the only reason rate.of bricking is high with rooted device, but if you read carefully and avoid reset/wiping there is almost zero chances to brick.
And yes if you look, compare to selling of notes in india, u don't see indians are quite less on forum?
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I'm really worried because you said if I avoid wiping I'm almost zero chance of briking.. I got my note clean, I mean I don't dare to put music and movies into it because then I don't dare to delete all those files... Will this brick my phone? I'm stock 4.0.4 rooted
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Obviously the culprit is wiping with CWM,I have factory Reset million times with no consequences at all,and just once with CWM was enough to Superbrick it,and yes I was on stock ROM.

msedek said:
I'm really worried because you said if I avoid wiping I'm almost zero chance of briking.. I got my note clean, I mean I don't dare to put music and movies into it because then I don't dare to delete all those files... Will this brick my phone? I'm stock 4.0.4 rooted
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It says big files shudn't be deleted. Though frankly speaking i have not seen any case brick by that, though we cant ignore comments from recognised developer.
But wat best idea i found to manage file is
Connect device with PC as mass storage and manage files from PC explorer. I believe that is safe way.
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Obviously the culprit is wiping with CWM,I have factory Reset million times with no consequences at all,and just once with CWM was enough to Superbrick it,and yes I was on stock ROM.
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That was your bad luck this time, otherwise both have same effect.

Google edition roms and mods

Just a thought to the mods the google edition roms seem to be taking over from the Samsung roms in the s4 section at the moment. Would it maybe be a good idea to open a sub thread for google edition roms,kernels and mods? Might save some confusion for noobs. Just a thought anyway

I'm a noob there's so many roms out there I'm not sure what to do which ones to go for
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bash156 said:
I'm a noob there's so many roms out there I'm not sure what to do which ones to go for
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Same here ...show us the way, please. I just want tot flash my S4 GT-I9505 (XXUBMEA) tot S4 Google Edition with auto uptades
Thanks

Bakkerke002 said:
Same here ...show us the way, please. I just want tot flash my S4 GT-I9505 (XXUBMEA) tot S4 Google Edition with auto uptades
Thanks
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No auto update yet. But in theory it should be possible!
Me Gusta!

i dont think the mods have seen this yet. dont want anyone to end up with an expensive paperweight coz if you dirty flash over a touchwizz rom bad bad stuff happens and its getting full in the forum now of google 4.2.2 and 4.3 roms

As long as you're flashing a I9505 rom on a I9505 device you won't brick your phone, regardless of whether it's CM, GE or TW. Not too sure what you mean by dirty flash, I'm presuming not carrying out a full wipe, this might cause issues but won't brick a phone. The forums are already fragmented enough and noobs really should be reading before they flash anything.
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marcadam said:
As long as you're flashing a I9505 rom on a I9505 device you won't brick your phone, regardless of whether it's CM, GE or TW. Not too sure what you mean by dirty flash, I'm presuming not carrying out a full wipe, this might cause issues but won't brick a phone. The forums are already fragmented enough and noobs really should be reading before they flash anything.
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by dirty flash i mean the lazy way and not wiping and yes this can cause soft bricks which make people panic and i fully agree that people should read but i think we can all agree that the forums are full of people that dont read. at the moment in my opinion for a noob it might be a bit confronting and confusing to see all these options. it was just an idea for the mods anyway to try and help

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by dirty flash i mean the lazy way and not wiping and yes this can cause soft bricks which make people panic and i fully agree that people should read but i think we can all agree that the forums are full of people that dont read. at the moment in my opinion for a noob it might be a bit confronting and confusing to see all these options. it was just an idea for the mods anyway to try and help
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