Anyway to output to a TV - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My Nexus 7 will be here tomorrow but I am disappointed there is no HDMI output like I saw in early photos. I use the port on my Acer to watch movies and view pictures on my TV while traveling. Does Google have any alternate way to do this even using DNLA? I can't find any information on it.

There is not. No HDMI or MHL.

Just, curious as I'm not a developer or programmer, but how hard would it be to make an app to make the N7 dlna or whatever so that we can at least stream to say a ps3 or xbox to watch content on a tv with it?

Possibly the mysterious 4 pin dock connector might be able to do this some day?
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I've already posted this a few times..
You can pick up an htc medialinkHD.
Go to the play store and search "medialink" Install an app called Wi-Fi Media by Cavium.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5iaWFub3IuYW1zY2F2aXVtIl0.
When you open the app, you can choose music or video that's stored on the device.
Then choose the medialink HD as the renderer.
This will not clone the display, you won't be able to play games with it or anything. But it will stream videos or music to the tv wirelessly.

regalpimpin said:
I've already posted this a few times..
You can pick up an htc medialinkHD.
Go to the play store and search "medialink" Install an app called Wi-Fi Media by Cavium.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5iaWFub3IuYW1zY2F2aXVtIl0.
When you open the app, you can choose music or video that's stored on the device.
Then choose the medialink HD as the renderer.
This will not clone the display, you won't be able to play games with it or anything. But it will stream videos or music to the tv wirelessly.
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Or wait for VLC to update their app on the Play Store. Works perfectly for music, video, and pictures. Basically it's an Airplay-type functionality that works with any computer running VLC. For those of us that have a PC plugged into the TV it's an awesome tool. I can play any media on the device directly on the TV at full resolution, control how it all plays, and even maximize the display. If they update the VLC app for JellyBean I'd be in love!

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Or wait for VLC to update their app on the Play Store. Works perfectly for music, video, and pictures. Basically it's an Airplay-type functionality that works with any computer running VLC. For those of us that have a PC plugged into the TV it's an awesome tool. I can play any media on the device directly on the TV at full resolution, control how it all plays, and even maximize the display. If they update the VLC app for JellyBean I'd be in love!
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Yes, that works to. There are other apps that would work with a ps3 or xbox as well.
The only reason I say to use a medialink is because it's portable. If you're traveling on business it's a little hard to tote around a HTPC, or a ps3 to use in your hotel room. But something that's the size of a business card, and about a half inch thick.. No problem.

But, is there no way for this to be worked into a kernel at any point in the future?
I know they figured it out with Team Win's app for the Evo 4G a long while ago...

regalpimpin said:
Yes, that works to. There are other apps that would work with a ps3 or xbox as well.
The only reason I say to use a medialink is because it's portable. If you're traveling on business it's a little hard to tote around a HTPC, or a ps3 to use in your hotel room. But something that's the size of a business card, and about a half inch thick.. No problem.
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I have 3 kids and when we travel I use pbo core media box with a 500gb drive along with 2 headrest monitors in the car. The core is about the size of two sandwiches and is very light. Besides carrying a whole library of stuff it can connect to any TV and play any format. It supports upnp as well so with a small router everyone can stream to the device wirelessly.
I used to use a tablet and convert videos,etc...no more of that. I find cloud services, plex, splash top, etc...more an enough for 99% of my tablet viewing.
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If you have XBMC use Air Play Free. Works great on XBMC

so wait...how did Google output the nexus 7 on the big screen at their I/O conference? surely there must be a way...

There's an app called aVia that enables dlna on the nexus 7. Presumably u can have the ps3/Xbox scan for it & stream content. Haven't used the app for that purpose but I know enabling dlna is an option in the settings. I can try & report back if anyone's interested

habz1234 said:
so wait...how did Google output the nexus 7 on the big screen at their I/O conference? surely there must be a way...
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It has been speculated that the units Google demo'd were modified units to allow for the screen mirroring. In one of the other threads on the HDMI/MHL subject someone posted a link to an article that had pictures of a Nexus 7 with an HDMI port on the bottom left side.
Edit to add: Here is the picture, from The Verge.
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Trying to get my xbox to see avia as we speak. Xbox is modded so hope they dont fix it
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I was able to get it to see the N7 as a media server but I don't have movies on it yet. Let me know if you are able to stream. Like I said, I don't really use it for this purpose because I have Plex on my WHS2011 box, but could be cool when traveling to family/friend's houses that have either.

It works through my samsung bluray but not my xbox. However, My movie extension was not compatible. Will try another.
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Just curious but is anyone able to stream from the Nexus7 with a USB Flash Drive plugged in and navigable to a ps3 or other device?

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HDMI out through the native video player?

Is it possible?
subscribed to JetFlix, in the market. (Jetflicks! TV - Android app on AppBrain) It is a $3 app with a $10/month subscription. I watch it on my phone in my car at the lake during my lunch break. I know that probably sounds sad, but it is AWESOME. I'm a manager in the dang corporate world, and I forget that I am at work by the time I'm done with a movie and come on back to the office. It's my dirty little secret.
ANYWAY, there are some great shows available on this application, and I was thinking of replacing my Netflix subscription with it if I could just stream it to my TV at home. But is anything "streamable" to the tv? I read that only pictures and videos that were shot with the camera stream though the HDMI cable. If that is the case, what is the point? I keep all that stuff on a hard drive anyway.
So my question: can I hook up an HDMI cable and stream Jetflicks to my TV? The Jetflicks movies play on the native player. So I guess a more accurate question would be: Does the native internet browser display on the TV through the HDMI cable? If so, is there audio?
I have an HDMI cable. When I hook it up and press "play," nothing happens on the TV, except that it goes dark. Am I doing something wrong, or is it just impossible.
Waiting with baited breath for someone to break the news to me.
Later
If the program you are using actually lets you download and plays video from the native player it should work. Also when you plug the hdmi cable into your tv and your phone. You should see an icon on the top left of the notifications bar and it should say hdmi
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I dont have that icon. Is there an hdmi setting somewhere I need to change?
Probly should email the developer and ask them if it's supposed to work or not?
I might just do that. I guess I might have given too much background information. A simpler question would be:
1. Is the native video player on the evo supposed to work with the HDMI out?
2. If yes:
a. Is there a setting to enable that function?
b. How can you tell which player (native or otherwise) the system is using?
Yes the native video player will use the hdmi out. It is automatic when you plug the hdmi cable into the device and open the video player and hit play the video will be outputted to the HDMI and the evo's screen will show the player function but no video. On the latest EVO update OTA 1.47.651.1 they added an HDMI settings to Force 720p or 480p output but since I haven updated to that rom version yet (still waiting on Fresh 1.0). What I believe that new setting will do is if your video isn't quite fully 720p but over 480p you can now force your phone to upscale the video to 720p output.
Thanks, that makes sense. I'm also on Fresh 0.5.3, waiting for 1.0.
Right now I can't do sh*t. If I plug the HDMI in, the phone freezes.
Sprockethead said:
Thanks, that makes sense. I'm also on Fresh 0.5.3, waiting for 1.0.
Right now I can't do sh*t. If I plug the HDMI in, the phone freezes.
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Your not using one of the FPS kernels are you? I think the first ones that were based on the hacked kernel with the broken camera break video playback using the stock player all together. at least it did for me when i tried it couldn't play any videos just got force closes and freezing.
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Your not using one of the FPS kernels are you? I think the first ones that were based on the hacked kernel with the broken camera break video playback using the stock player all together. at least it did for me when i tried it couldn't play any videos just got force closes and freezing.
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I am, lol. Why can't I get a build where everything works!!??
I'll work on it in a minute. Right now I'm trying to improve megaflops...
Im on fresh 0.53 and my HDMI works fine no freeze. Just plug it in and a notification on the top says HDMI. Here's a screenshot
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HTC Desire's DLNA function

DLNA.
This function is new to me but not for the rest of the high tech world. I know
nobody yet have used this function on a DHD, but SGS users maybe know what to
expect. This thread mainly is gonna be about the functionality of the DLNA
function in the DHD.
- Suggestions on what TV/LCD/LED to get.
- Is the wireless streeming seemless.
- What options to change in the TV to get the function to work.
These and many more questions can be asked about DLNA.
This topic mainly is cuz i am going to buy that phone and any input is superb welcome, but this topic, yet has not been seen in the DHD General section.
Please, reply on what do you suggest and how do you se yourself using this function
on a daily bases.
Best regards
mark wild
I think (hope) the wireless streaming is seamless if not htc should've scrapped the plans and gone for a hdmi
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MacaronyMax said:
I think (hope) the wireless streaming is seamless if not htc should've scrapped the plans and gone for a hdmi
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True to that. I do hope so to. Any information how it all works.
i have a ps3 hooked up to my hdtv. apparently the ps3 supports DLNA so im looking forward to testing it out when i get the DHD.
???
SupremeBeaver said:
i have a ps3 hooked up to my hdtv. apparently the ps3 supports DLNA so im looking forward to testing it out when i get the DHD.
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What do you expect from hooking the phone up with your PS3??
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What do you expect from hooking the phone up with your PS3??
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true love lol
If you have a PS3 connected to your home network, then you connect your SGS/DHD to your home network via WiFi and turn on the DLNA app.
You'll see your SGS/DHD appear in the Video and Music menus of the XMB (you may have to scan for media servers on the PS3). Then you can browse the media folders on your SGS/DHD using the XMB.
Select a file, and it'll start playing on your TV. Simple.
That's how it works on my old Omnia II. Can't imagine it'll be any different with current handsets.
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If you have a PS3 connected to your home network, then you connect your SGS/DHD to your home network via WiFi and turn on the DLNA app.
You'll see your SGS/DHD appear in the Video and Music menus of the XMB (you may have to scan for media servers on the PS3). Then you can browse the media folders on your SGS/DHD using the XMB.
Select a file, and it'll start playing on your TV. Simple.
That's how it works on my old Omnia II. Can't imagine it'll be any different with current handsets.
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yeah ur right. but i've been wondering, will the format of videos have to be supported by both the DHD and the PS3? Does the ps3 actually decode the video file, or is that done on the DHD and simply streamed to the ps3?
for example, if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?
This is a question that I'm very interested in finding out the answer too actually.
As I understand it, the advertised feature is that I can stream content (pictures, videos. music) to a DLNA device to display on my TV.
In my case, I have a PS3 and an Xbox360 which I assume will recognise my Desire HD and playback the content I have on it, which is fine.
I use my Xbox360 to play back content from my computer (which I believe is DLNA as well), so I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...
I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!
SupremeBeaver said:
...if i have an .avi file that works on my Desire hd, but assume this file type doesnt work on the ps3 natively, will it still be able to stream it?
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The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.
That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...
dazultra2000 said:
I am wondering if I can use my Desire HD to play back stuff from other devices. If so, then I can watch all my movies and listen to all my music via DLNA on my phone...
I really badly hope that this will work - MAJOR selling point for me!
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Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.
Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.
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The format of the video has to be supported by the PS3.
That used to be a problem with early PS3 Firmwares, but DivX/Xvid are natively supported by the PS3 these days...
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ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?
SupremeBeaver said:
ah ok i see. but if i were to reverse things and try to stream a video which works on the ps3, but not on the DHD itself, would this work?
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There's no conversion done at all by either the PS3 or the DHD, DLNA is literally just a transport method, so you need to be streaming a file that is compatible on the receiving device. There are good media players available on Android to cover most filetypes though.
Of course, if you're trying to stream 1080p mkv files to your DHD, then you might struggle...
sub69 said:
Well, again, the DLNA app on the Omnia II allowed this, so I see no reason why this wouldn't work on the newer handsets.
Incidentally, if you connect to your home network via WiFi and use a File Manager that allows you to browse the local network (EStrongs File Explorer, for instance) - then you should be able to just share your PC's media folder and watch avi and mp3 files by browsing to them and opening them on your device. No DLNA needed.
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Useful to know! Thanks for that.
or just get one of these: http://www.expansys.com/hisense-108...our-downloaded-films-on-your-tv-in-hd-186127/
hisense has dlna and is brilliant bit of kit. youd just need a gaming relay wifi station / repeater or similar.
a wifi usb dongle should work too
bit cheaper here: http://www.redstore.com/HISSDC001
I have been using DLNA for a good few months now with both my Samsung GS & Acer Laptop which has DLNA onboard for streaming to my Samsung LED TV and find it worthwhile for both Music & Photo's. However, for Video you have to watch (pun not intended) what you are going to stream.
Any video file that has heavy encoding will make the buffer stream work overtime and often freeze or judder on the TV.
.MKV files are quite prone to this but DivX and MP4 files play quite well.
Even the phone's own camera if recorded at 720p will test your TV as it struggles to receive the data smoothly.
The first thing you will need to pick up the DLNA content from your phone is a media hub. This can either be a Laptop with DLNA, a PS3, or if you are lucky to have one of the recent LCD/LED TV's with DLNA built in you can stream the content direct to your TV.
In my setup I have a Samsung LED TV which is connected by Ethernet to my Router.
Whenever I want to stream data from the phone to the TV the first thing to do is on the phone run the DLNA App (on the SGS it is called AllShare).
P.S. There are other third-party DLNA titles available such as iMediashare Mobile and Twonky Mobile which will do the same job.
The next step is on the TV Remote use the 'Source' button and change it until you see on the TV your phone's name (mine again says Samsung Galaxy S).
Once you have selected the phone the TV's screen will now change to a Media Hub and give a menu system where you can then select Photo's, Music or Video.
Providing on your phone's DLNA App you have chosen to stream specific files these same files will then be available for displaying on your TV.
To control the content on your TV simply use the TV's Remote and Play/Pause/Stop/Back for previous/Fwd for next/etc.
At present we don't know anything on the App that will be on the DHD so it's going to be guesswork in exactly how data is selected for streaming.
Hope this helps.
Beards
One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
HTC Made DLNA adapter
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jkoljo said:
...is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
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Each DLNA receiver has it's own menu for browsing DLNA media that it has discovered. The menu is part of the software in the TV, PS3, XBox, HTC receiver, etc...
DLNA is a standard for the transmission and discovery of media, but once that connection has been made, you can stream/send all sorts - DivX, Mkv, WMV, Avi, MP3, Wav, Jpg, Bmp, etc, etc.
The receiving device will have it's own software, with it's own menu, and it's own supported filetypes and codecs.
If you have a DLNA TV, it may only be able to play DivX and MP3. Or maybe Mkv and Wav. It's up to the manufacturer and the software they've loaded...
jkoljo said:
One question, you seem to know about this stuff, is the DLNA menu in the TV different to every different DLNA application, or is the menu already in the TV itself?
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The menu you see on the TV is what is built in on the TV.
So it does not matter what software you use on the phone it will always be the same on the TV.
As an example ~ Both my Laptop (which also transmit media data) & Phone show exactly the same menu on the TV.

Dlna streaming

How does it work? Over wifi? Do most tvs support it? How is the quality? Could you play a flash movie or web browse?
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It is in fact over wifi and I use it with my ps3. You can't surf the web it play games it's just for steaming your media from your phone to you're tv using dlna. There's too much buffering with videos though. Your can check your electronics on the dlna.org website to see if there dlna certified.
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Yes, it's DLNA. Your TV or at least something hooked up to it (Xbox 360, ps3) must be DLNA compliant. You can also use this technology to stream directly from your PC while using the mt4g as a media controller.
XfooYen said:
Yes, it's DLNA. Your TV or at least something hooked up to it (Xbox 360, ps3) must be DLNA compliant. You can also use this technology to stream directly from your PC while using the mt4g as a media controller.
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How would one do this?
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How would one do this?
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If you have a dlna TV or another dlna compliant device hooked to your TV, it will seamlessly auto-detect the mt4g. That's the beauty of dlna technology. It requires very little setup. Google dlna.
For the love of god I can't figure this out. All I want to do is to stream , let's say, couple of pictures from phone to my W7 PC. How do I set-up my PC for that? Sorry if this is off-topic, I googled for the last 3 hours and couldn't come up with anything
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For the love of god I can't figure this out. All I want to do is to stream , let's say, couple of pictures from phone to my W7 PC. How do I set-up my PC for that? Sorry if this is off-topic, I googled for the last 3 hours and couldn't come up with anything
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I believe Twonky, the company that makes the screen share app for the mytouch, has a PC app. Go to twonky.com and see if a download is available. That would surely sync your PC with your phone.
twonky on pc
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I believe Twonky, the company that makes the screen share app for the mytouch, has a PC app. Go to twonky.com and see if a download is available. That would surely sync your PC with your phone.
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yes,,twonky makes a pc app,and yes it works AWSOME,,you can get the 30 day trial,,or just buy it for 20. bucks..you set your phone < twonky app > to be a media source then you will SEE twonky media server on,,,a list of servers twonky SEE'S on both your pc and phone so if you have ps3--xbox 360--a compatable tv,,twonky will see all of them,,so you can send from your pc,to phone ,,or phone to pc....it will scan your media and then from ypour phone you pick a vidio--pic--song and start to play it ,,and wala your pc opens a twonky window and starts to play your stuff,,,,,,,,you can also use windows media player 10,,,,,start the player then go to your phone and start the all share,,,twonky app,then go to settings ,,set destination and you should / will see the win media player on your comp. now,,,you have to keep win player up in the back ground or it will not be seen by your phone,,anyone have some setings we can try i dont know about to keep win player < LISTENING > for the phone app???
I use Twonky to stream pics and vids to my Samsung LCD. Works great over Wi-Fi.
Just fire up the Screen Share app on the MT4G and run through the setup.
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Please post questions in Q&A section.
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Please post questions in Q&A section.
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We did not have Q&A section when this was originally posted.
I just fired this up in the hopes of it working with my PS3, but I couldn't quite get it to work. Frankly, that does not upset me that much, because I wouldn't ever really use it.
Now, however, I have no idea how to turn off the twonky server on my phone. The help file mentions clicking on the "large power button" in the center of the twonky server, but the only button in the whole program just rescans. I am not even connected to my wifi anymore. The interface of this app is just terrible.

[Q] Streaming to a Samsung TV..?

Hi,
Is there anyway that I can stream my LG G2 to my Samsung Smart TV, without using a MiraCast Dongle?
Thanks in advance,
Matt
matt_tee said:
Hi,
Is there anyway that I can stream my LG G2 to my Samsung Smart TV, without using a MiraCast Dongle?
Thanks in advance,
Matt
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Chromecast dongle....would work
I think he's wanting to do it without dropping any cash on the project. As far as I know, there isn't a way to do that. Personally I'd spend the money on the Chromecast, it's a cheap investment for what you actually get.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
Vepaot said:
I think he's wanting to do it without dropping any cash on the project. As far as I know, there isn't a way to do that. Personally I'd spend the money on the Chromecast, it's a cheap investment for what you actually get.
Sent from CAMACHO, my Verizon G2 (VS980) running PAC ROM 4.3.
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Yes you are right, wanted to know if it was possible to jump on the back of the existing wifi signal and stream...
It looks like the Chromecast option is the one I will be pursuing....
Cheers.
What are you trying to stream? The screen or media from your phone? If its media you could probably do it with a dlna app like bubble upnp or something like that.
Im curious about streaming to my tv as well. I dont have internet at home but I do have a LAN I can set up if I desire to. Can I stream from my my LG G2 to a chromecast if I dont have internet access? Will it work just over my LAN?
My G2 can screen share to my Samsung UN46F6300 via Wi-Fi direct. I enable screen share from the tv, and can connect from the G2 immediately. Also, I haven't tried, but I'm fairly sure I can share media via the G2's DLNA app.
Edit - It seems both work. Use Miracast to mirror and Wi-Fi direct for streaming. It would seem that you need to have actual apps on your tv to stream. For example, my tv has a YouTube app, which opens when I stream to the tv. See second photo below. Discoloration is due to f.lux
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I dont have those features on my tv so thats why im wondering if chromecast will allow you to stream via lan without home internet.
For example could I stream netflix from my phone to the chromecast via lan? Or would I be limited to just whatever content (movies or music) stored directly on my device?
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My G2 can screen share to my Samsung UN46F6300 via Wi-Fi direct. I enable screen share from the tv, and can connect from the G2 immediately. Also, I haven't tried, but I'm fairly sure I can share media via the G2's DLNA app.
Edit - It seems both work. Use Miracast to mirror and Wi-Fi direct for streaming. It would seem that you need to have actual apps on your tv to stream. For example, my tv has a YouTube app, which opens when I stream to the tv. See second photo below. Discoloration is due to f.lux
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Hi Jocelyn
Do you mean anything that is on your phone screen will be on the TV once you set up Miracast? I have the Samsung UE49f6320 TV and was looking into getting a dongle, but are you saying you can mirror games etc?
Thanks
jbaggs said:
Hi Jocelyn
Do you mean anything that is on your phone screen will be on the TV once you set up Miracast? I have the Samsung UE49f6320 TV and was looking into getting a dongle, but are you saying you can mirror games etc?
Thanks
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If you have a TV or other device attached to your tv that supports Miracast, then yes. Once connected to the device/tv with your phone, an exact copy of your phone's display appears on the tv, including the orientation, portrait/landscape. There is a slight delay to it, so playing fast video games isn't much fun, but watching videos works. If you want to play fast paced games, I'd use an HDMI/slimport cable to connect to the TV.
jbaggs said:
Hi Jocelyn
Do you mean anything that is on your phone screen will be on the TV once you set up Miracast? I have the Samsung UE49f6320 TV and was looking into getting a dongle, but are you saying you can mirror games etc?
Thanks
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Yes, G2 Miracast works with Allshare mirroring on the TV
, but it's too laggy for games imo. Get a slimport adapter instead
racingbmwm3 said:
If you have a TV or other device attached to your tv that supports Miracast, then yes. Once connected to the device/tv with your phone, an exact copy of your phone's display appears on the tv, including the orientation, portrait/landscape. There is a slight delay to it, so playing fast video games isn't much fun, but watching videos works. If you want to play fast paced games, I'd use an HDMI/slimport cable to connect to the TV.
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Fire TV 2 Gaming Thread

I'm making this thread because there simply isn't enough info dedicated to gaming on the Fire TV 2. I can't be the only one with the frustration of the lack of proper USB support or gamepads not working correctly.
Some things I have found out
- You can install the OUYA launcher to this device and gain access to the Discover store but if you own OUYA games or plan to buy any, you will not have access to DRM. I will play around with transferring my DRM folder from a real OUYA but I'm waiting for a simpler rooting process.
- The OUYA Controller, while perfect on the old Fire TV, it is far from perfect on AFTV2
- PDP Rock Candy, wired XBox 360 controllers works in some games, not in others.
- Haven't found a way to get the Google Play Store to properly work yet... Putting that out there.
- For game streamers, the Google, OUYA and Amazon versions of Kainy do not work
- You don't always have to buy the Fire TV version of your Amazon games. Just transfer your purchased game from a phone or tablet to the AFTV2 and your Amazon account will give you proper access to the game on Fire TV2
Anyone else have any gaming related findings?
lightykd said:
wired XBox 360 controllers works in some games, not in others.
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Wireless XBox 360 controllers used to work fine with Fire TV 1. My Fire TV 2 doesn't even find (recognise) them.
Thanks for the useful comments regarding the 360 controller. That saved me a lot of money buying gadgets that would have just sat in a cupboard.
Another thing would be streaming games via splashtop, remotr, kinoconsole or moonlight. I understand only nvidia supports hardware encoding for streaming which smooths out frame rates. So far I haven't had any luck getting anything to work. Splashtop crashes out, remotr hasn't been reliable and I haven't been able to try the other two yet but l will be trying out . I'll post my results on this tinkering.
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Wireless XBox 360 controllers used to work fine with Fire TV 1. My Fire TV 2 doesn't even find (recognise) them.
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I've yet to test mine, but did you make sure that USB ADB was turned OFF?
If it is on you won't be able to use the USB port for anything other than ADB access.
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Can you transfer the controller definition files from AFTV1 to AFTV2?
Like talked about in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716838
What is the benefit of the "OUYA Launcher"? (also how to install it would be handy too)
I had installed the play services and store on my FireOS 5 dev preview updated FireTV stick, I wasn't able to access the store (no connection) but it did mean that I could install apps that required the play services to be present. http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/fake-location-firetv-stick-fireos-5-root-t3252155
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I've yet to test mine, but did you make sure that USB ADB was turned OFF?
If it is on you won't be able to use the USB port for anything other than ADB access.
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Can you transfer the controller definition files from AFTV1 to AFTV2?
Like talked about in: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2716838
What is the benefit of the "OUYA Launcher"? (also how to install it would be handy too)
I had installed the play services and store on my FireOS 5 dev preview updated FireTV stick, I wasn't able to access the store (no connection) but it did mean that I could install apps that required the play services to be present. http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/fake-location-firetv-stick-fireos-5-root-t3252155
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Sorry I missed your post. For me, the OUYA launcher allows me to access games I've purchased from their store over the past two years. Additionally I use it for better organization of non-Amazon apps. It's VERY handy. You can also purchase additional games from their store but I will admit that some games have DRM issues and pictures within game pages rarely show in the store. Also, without a way to freeze the Fire TV home men upon opening the OUYA menu, some games will not have proper access to their pause menus and there is NO way to access the OUYA "home" menu. -P.M. Me for additional details on installing the OUYA menu. I wish Wonder Lee was around. His software controller modding skills would be helpful right now.
New question: Am I the only one using the following controller on the Fire TV 2/4K?
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In case you don't know, these are the Rock Candy XBox 360 controllers made by PDP. They are the most common third party XBox 360 controller. For the most part these controllers work well but I seem to have major issues with some games not wanting to play nice with the analog triggers and right analog stick. Additionally Recast (the Dreamcast emulator) does not recognize the triggers at all and struggles with the d-pad. I've already sent a bug report to the Recast team. I really like these controllers from the lighthearted colors to the nice, long white cables. I just wish the software issues could be fixed.
I already have a compatable apps & accessories thread in the Q&A section of the forum, it lists working & non working apps & accessories for the AFTV2 look here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
If you wanna add any to my list please feel free to comment by following the link above
deanr1977 said:
I already have a compatable apps & accessories thread in the Q&A section of the forum, it lists working & non working apps & accessories for the AFTV2 look here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
If you wanna add any to my list please feel free to comment by following the link above
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I see that you have the RockCandy 360 Controller listed but you should make a note that the analog triggers and right analog stick do not function properly in every app/game.
lightykd said:
I see that you have the RockCandy 360 Controller listed but you should make a note that the analog triggers and right analog stick do not function properly in every app/game.
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Cheers mate will do that now
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I have Modern Combat 5 running on the 4K Fire TV. You will have to side load this game from the Google Play Store as this game is NOT available through Amazon's App Store. For those of you who are currently playing this game on other devices, connect your save files with your Facebook account FIRST. Because there is no proper "Google Play Games" support on the Fire TV, connecting your saves to your Facebook account will ensure access to your cloud save once you load MC5 on your fire TV. Have fun!
Dont want to double post but here is my latest video of my using OUYA resources on the AFTV2. I eve added some Modern Combat 5 play time so everyone can see how well the game plays on our device.
https://youtu.be/PN6YF8V5TQ0
skyball2 said:
Wireless XBox 360 controllers used to work fine with Fire TV 1. My Fire TV 2 doesn't even find (recognise) them.
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...meanwhile I found out, that the FireTV 2 does in fact connect to the wireless XBOX controllers, but only if you have ethernet disconnected. Bummer!
skyball2 said:
...meanwhile I found out, that the FireTV 2 does in fact connect to the wireless XBOX controllers, but only if you have ethernet disconnected. Bummer!
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Check out the compatibility here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/help/aftv2-best-compatible-apps-accessories-t3269267
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I found out that the Fire TV saves all internal apps to "/data/app" I tried doing a directory bind (using the app "Folder Mount") of that folder to my hard drive and I didn't go so well. The Fire TV immediately considered all apps in that folder as being the "wrong version". This **** is a pain in the ass! We can't do any serious gaming on this box until this storage problem is fixed!
Can we play any fifa game with fire tv 2?
ßoNjoVe said:
Can we play any fifa game with fire tv 2?
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You're going to have to side load a copy. If the game supports HID controllers then you should be fine.
My master list of OUYA games compatible on the AFTV2 has been updated
http://firetvgamers.freeforums.net/thread/2/ouya-games-compatible-fire-tv
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You're going to have to side load a copy. If the game supports HID controllers then you should be fine.
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When i try to open fifa on fire tv 2 that s going to restart and restard again.
ßoNjoVe said:
When i try to open fifa on fire tv 2 that s going to restart and restard again.
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There's a good chance that the game doesn't work or it's missing some files. Did you only transfer the APK to your Fire TV or the APK and a folder that goes in ether "android/data" or android/obb"?
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There's a good chance that the game doesn't work or it's missing some files. Did you only transfer the APK to your Fire TV or the APK and a folder that goes in ether "android/data" or android/obb"?
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Yes i did that.
ßoNjoVe said:
Yes i did that.
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Your copy of Fifa was probably made with a specific GPU in mind. If you're using an AFTV2, the GPU is a Power VR GX6250. -on AFTV1 it's Qualcomm Adreno 320. Your copy of Fifa is probably NOT an "all devices" version. Check the specs of the Android device you're copying from. If the graphic card isn't the same "type" as the one on your Fire TV then try looking for a version that matches your Fire TV's GPU.

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