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What do you think we will have by next year? [May 2011]

Like the title says, what do u think the vibrant community will have by next year?
I say we might already have an official gingerbread release by next year or throughout.
What do you think we'll have?
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Irrelevance
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a quiet ghost town forum with no developers.

xriderx66 said:
a quiet ghost town forum with no developers.
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From what I've seen here we would probably run out of users before developers
The number of people looking for the latest hottest phone out there is ridiculous here.

I don't think we will die, look at the G1!
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Nabeel10 said:
I don't think we will die, look at the G1!
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Well the g1 doesn't count. First android phone. Its the grandfather of all. I think we would be quite. No real developers. I for one, will keep ny vibrant. Ill buy an upgrade when everything android related cools down. Im not spending $600 every few months for the new top phone.
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Most likely, a couple of stable GB Roms, but less true devs.
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a 3.0 ghz overclock and android 6.3 (snickers) and a 3d phone with no glasses

Ice cream sandwich??????

Anybody have any idea if ics will be compatible with the atrix?
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2 threads down from this one is a thread already about this.
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That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Ramsport said:
That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Bunch of discussion about whether or not it will work on the Atrix (ics). But whatev.
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Ramsport said:
That thread is about the face recognition software, it doesn't answer my question.
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Let's put it this way, the Nexus S will be getting ICS, and the Atrix basically has twice the specs. So the Atrix on paper can support ICS.
The bigger question is how the carriers are going to allow this?
Bottom line, whether it's OTA or CM7 we will see ICS in some fashion on the Atrix...
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ccrows said:
Let's put it this way, the Nexus S will be getting ICS, and the Atrix basically has twice the specs. So the Atrix on paper can support ICS.
The bigger question is how the carriers are going to allow this?
Bottom line, whether it's OTA or CM7 we will see ICS in some fashion on the Atrix...
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Agreed, I know that the Atrix will get this in some sort of fashion, the only thing that I "worry" about is the finger-print scanner. I wonder if this will delay the Atrix from getting it sooner, since it is a completely unique device. I just hope the FPS doesn't get left out.

Engadget said most ginger bread devices should get the ota

Ramsport said:
Anybody have any idea if ics will be compatible with the atrix?
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If you did your research properly instead of posting another one of those threads that's people go through again and again, you would definitely know the answer by now.
Have a good day or night.

twayneo said:
Engadget said most ginger bread devices should get the ota
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Source?
I know google had mentioned that devices currently running gingerbread would be able to run ICS (hardware-wise). Its still up to the manufacturers to create those OTA updates...

Of course will be totally compatible with Atrix! Nexus doesnt have a hardware so different to Atrix! This is the difference between Apple and Google. When Apple says about iOS, they put a date and always launch a public final one week later. Now, Android its a blah blah, all depends of third person, its a shame an OS that grows up like this and have like half of customers in world, they treat us like this. shame!

quicklyspent said:
Source?
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He posted the source. Engadget!
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CaelanT said:
He posted the source. Engadget!
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In that case, I read on Engadget that the Atrix will be the first phone to get ICS. Even before the Nexus. Should be pushed sometime tonight.

quicklyspent said:
In that case, I read on Engadget that the Atrix will be the first phone to get ICS. Even before the Nexus. Should be pushed sometime tonight.
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Ha. Im running it now.
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I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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jivester024 said:
I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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That would semi sorta explain why Atrix 2 went and put a TI-OMAP Processor in their phone. Interesting.

jivester024 said:
I read somewhere (no source: read at your own risk) that ics is made for omap processors and Tegra devices (ie. Atrix) will take a while longer to develop... At least through official channels - here's hoping to official CM support!
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Wrong. Just like how honeycomb's designated SoC was Tegra 2, the designated SoC for ICS is the OMAP 4. IE Google determined that they were the best SoC available at the time and built their flagship device using that particular processor. It has nothing to do with porting android to various SoCs.

the olympus o2x aint gettings ICS it seems
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andrew.cambridge said:
2 threads down from this one is a thread already about this.
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You are so right. Thread closed.

Xoom...

This thing is at a dead end huh? Haven't seen a rom outside of almost 2 mos. and only one rom dev is even around...
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I wouldn't say it's dead. But there's only so much we can do when we are already running stock + there's no honeycomb source. I think things will pick up once ICS source drops.

agree.. got to wait till ICS

idkwhothatis123 said:
This thing is at a dead end huh? Haven't seen a rom outside of almost 2 mos. and only one rom dev is even around...
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Deleted ... wrong device

willysp said:
We don't have a fully working unlocked bootloader.....and looking increasingly unlikely that we'll get one.
Wouldn't use the term dead-end myself - rooted stock is quite fine.
If you wanted a phone with lots of ROM development, you picked the wrong phone unfortunately.
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Yeah if you bought the Xoom thinking it's a phone you've already done messed up.
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Saintfyre said:
Yeah if you bought the Xoom thinking it's a phone you've already done messed up.
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Oops - too much context switching between the Xoom and Photon forums! Brain stack overflow. My bad ...

omnia1994 said:
agree.. got to wait till ICS
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With this being a Google experience device, were probably going to see an official update to ics. Agree?
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idkwhothatis123 said:
With this being a Google experience device, were probably going to see an official update to ics. Agree?
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Yes, Moto has announced that we will.

More likely this is the calm before the storm. Everybody sits and waits for ICS to drop.

[ICS] should they stop working on it

I've been following the ics project since after my birthday (11/27/11) and a lot has changed but when it comes to (FFC) it came to me that its not gonna work till maybe after the summer or never, whenever HTC gives out the code bit what's your opinion about the ics for the EVO 4G?
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This doesnt belong in the Android Development section, belongs in GENERAL.

My bad I thought it was general at first. The system will automaticly do it for me as usual.
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ummm my opinion on it is that if they dont want to they shouldnt. It will give us an awesome rom but more importantly that means our wonderful devs are learning stuff. this means that in the future they can use these experiences to help them in work or in other aspects of there personal lifes. so dev on guys you are doing great

Why in the world should they stop working on ICS? It makes little sense.
Deck and Kang and others are making great ICS ROMs for lots of phones, not just the EVO4G.

htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..

Dan330 said:
htc will release the code.. because it is an open source project. when is the question, not if.
ics will come..
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The OS code is open source. The device drivers are not last I knew. So no, HTC does not have to release driver code.

HTC may release the FFC code for our OG's as soon as they sell enough of their newer devices.
They seem to be dragging their feet in releasing the official ICS updates for the Evo 3D and the Evo Design when they said they would, but they're holding it back, why? Cuz they want to sell enough of the One series models before they officially update the older HTC models that are scheduled to be updated with ICS.
Its kinda crappy of HTC to do that, but hey, they're a "for-profit" business.
But in answer to your question, heck no they shouldn't stop developing ICS for our OG Evo's! This sh*t is fun as hell.
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what is the point of this thread? why is that a question? sorry no disrespect.

Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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scottspa74 said:
Yeah, I don't get why a thread was started for this. But why should devs abandon ICS on Evo? Because they can't get FFC to work!? I've been on ICS since the minute they got camera working (around Xmas), and could NEVER imagine going back to GB or Froyo (well, ...maybe froyo).
Keep up the awesome work, all who are working on ICS for Evo.
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I flashed outer depth express from, which is a great rom , just for ****s and giggles and let me tell you I haven't tried sense for about a year now and if you want to appreciate ics, flash a sense rom and you will see y we won't look back.....omg.....
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I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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BigSmoke53 said:
I don't follow ICS what is FFC?
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Front facing camera
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tomzefi said:
Front facing camera
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Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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BigSmoke53 said:
Wow I should know that, but I've never used mine so I never thought of it. But really why would they stop ics for that.
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That's my point. This thread makes no sense. Ics development for evo is extremely active. Don't understand the creation of this thread.
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Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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PsiPhiDan said:
Hahaha. Let's see... These devs have given us some of the smoothest ROMs our phones have ever seen, with incredible battery life and cutting edge features...
But if I can't look at myself in my phone with a FFC, what's the point??
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Hell no. I am ugly. I don't want to see myself anyway.
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The evo is EOL(end of life) HTC doesn't have to support it any longer meaning they won't release any source for it as they are not working on ICS for the device. Hardware mfgs may release source for the same hardware in other devices, like they did with the adreno or the devs may code their own drivers. But don't expect HTC to do a damn thing for the evo, period.
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All I'm saying we have a lot of people love the ics Rom but some people hate it cause no 4G. But let me tell one thing about the ics it came a lot since then and like some people who are poor or they don't make a lot of money, its hard to keep up with ics roms when the last two months the biggest change was 4.0.4 which is like starting all over again. Don't get me wrong with the debate about their work, its freaking amazing, but the biggest break through will be the ffc. Closest to that is from a horse ride to a plane ride experience
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I don't think that they should stop working on the ICS ROM's. I went from Sense to Ice Cream Sense to ICS and having ICS on my phone is like having a brand new phone. We don't have 4G in our area, and the front facing camera I hardly used. I am using gummyWorms ICS right now and so far had no major problems with it. There are minor glitches sometimes but, that is no big deal. I hope that the ICS developers can get everything working and I know that it will take time to do so. I appreciate all of their hard work in bringing us some ICS goodness to our phones.

Atrix 2 got ICS Leak

The guys at the Atrix 2 forum have found their leak too. Seems like Moto is really working on the updates. I hope we are next!
Source: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1778953
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OMG! O_O
Sorry, nothing constructive to add. Just excitement

I kinda get why everyone is upset about not getting ICS already. Atrix came out in February 2011 and every phone that came out after that got ICS first.
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Why everyone is so desperated for the update? Its says Q3. It may happen in july, August or September. When the phone was released, it was gingerbread upgradeable not ics upgradeable
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cooljeremy84 said:
Why everyone is so desperated for the update? Its says Q3. It may happen in july, August or September. When the phone was released, it was gingerbread upgradeable not ics upgradeable
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Indeed. This is a Froyo phone, no matter.the specs. Im grateful that Moto is going to give us official ICS. With ICS, we are going to get the new drivers that are going to work well on JB and maybe in the next Android release.
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cooljeremy84 said:
Why everyone is so desperated for the update? Its says Q3. It may happen in july, August or September. When the phone was released, it was gingerbread upgradeable not ics upgradeable
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When the atrix was released gingerbread was already out, in all honesty, it should have come with gingerbread.
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Indeed. This is a Froyo phone, no matter.the specs. Im grateful that Moto is going to give us official ICS. With ICS, we are going to get the new drivers that are going to work well on JB and maybe in the next Android release.
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I think they will help as far as jellybean, but that's depending on how big key lime pie is.
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Sass86 said:
I think they will help as far as jellybean, but that's depending on how big key lime pie is.
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Im totally positive that they will help for JB, and judging from Android's past behavior with updates, im about 75% sure that they will also be good for Lime Pie (if thats the name for the next release of Android. These drivers are going to be good for Android 4.x.x, they will stop working for sure on Android 5.0. Thats going to be the end for the Atrix, at least with drivers. Thats just my guess tough.
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djluis48 said:
Im totally positive that they will help for JB, and judging from Android's past behavior with updates, im about 75% sure that they will also be good for Lime Pie (if thats the name for the next release of Android. These drivers are going to be good for Android 4.x.x, they will stop working for sure on Android 5.0. Thats going to be the end for the Atrix, at least with drivers. Thats just my guess tough.
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Judging from Android's past behavior with updates, Key Lime Pie will be Android 5.0.
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Upon further review you may be right. I certainly hope Key Lime Pie is Android 4.2 with driver compatibility with ICS/JB.

so sad im here that atrix 2 leaked...
huhuhuhuhuhuhuhu..........
please make it faster for atrix 4g....i cant wait it anymore...huhuhu...:crying:
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Sass86 said:
When the atrix was released gingerbread was already out, in all honesty, it should have come with gingerbread.
I think they will help as far as jellybean, but that's depending on how big key lime pie is.
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haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol

Crap, I ordered a used Atrix 4G five minutes ago and now I read this.

achangavi said:
haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol
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Disagree why would we? Dual core and 1gb ram....plenty for my phone.

rancur3p1c said:
Disagree why would we? Dual core and 1gb ram....plenty for my phone.
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Because 97% of people upgrade.
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achangavi said:
haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol
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Not me. Unless this phones dies or something like that, i will be using it at least one more year.

achangavi said:
haha by the time key lime pie is released, pretty much all of us atrix owners would have upgraded lol
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Not me. My contract ends next July. Until then, I'm stuck with my Atrix. Now, where is the "unthanks" button? Accidentally gave you a "thanks" and I can't seem to undo it :/
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andrew.cambridge said:
Because 97% of people upgrade.
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And 63% of all statistics on the internet are made up anyway.

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I have to agree with some of the others. My next upgrade is in February. Even I had an upgrade now I wouldn't use it yet. My Atrix has be great and there isn't any phone at the moment that really jumps out at me and says get me. The Atrix HD came close for me (want to stick with Moto because I love their hardware and software is finally starting to catch up). The only things that bother me with the Atrix HD is that because it is very similar to the Razr I'm worried about the battery life. Also, there is no Webtop. Webtop 3.0 was looking good and doesn't tax the cpu like the current version since essentially it is running in tablet mode. I'm kind of holding out to see if Moto does with the Atrix HD what they did with the Razr. The Atrix HD Maxx maybe. I would hope that they bring Webtop 3.0 to it and bring back the fingerprint scanner (fingerprint scanner not a deal breaker). Sorry got a bit off topic.
Hope we will see an OG Atrix leak soon.

Some people only want what they don't have. Don't have ICS therefore they want it.
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RoadToNever said:
Crap, I ordered a used Atrix 4G five minutes ago and now I read this.
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atrix2 if I'm not mistaken has a locked bootloader, so that's a no go. We could get CM 4.1 with customized kernel
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Dark9781 said:
I have to agree with some of the others. My next upgrade is in February.
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Let me tell you about this place all around the USA that is called the world where you don't necessarily tie your phone with a contract...