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HTC Unlock bootloader and disable NAND protection campaign

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"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
What is the point of this?
The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones
Why should I support this?
Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7. Take the htc wildfire for example. In december 2010, HTC released a 2.2 update for the wildfire. However, hidden in this update was a new bootloader which could not (and still can not as of the 15th may 2011) be modified. It is unlikely that HTC will release another update for this phone, meaning that users are going to be stuck on this rom. The reason? So HTC can sell new phones. However what this is doing is putting users off buying HTC's devices since rival companies have announced that the users can easily unlock the bootloaders on their devices.
To support the campaign please sign the petition at http://goo.gl/uIeqv and you can like us on facebook at http://goo.gl/e1CqN and you can see updates on my blog at http://goo.gl/KdpFr
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What does everyone else think
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It is an nice intiative, but as already stated in other toppics, htc will for sure not unlock there bootloaders. It is just this what the economy is driving on: everyone has to buy new things as much as possible. It can be done in two ways: by making a crapy device or by constanly bringing out new devices. And since the first option will make people angry and go to other manufactures, the only thing left is to make sure that every device gets outdated. And thus to lock the bootloader.
But I signed the petition anyway, perhaps it will make them go searching for other options to make money.
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Well let's hope this can be as big as the Motorola one
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we can ask anyone to not to buy htc products for a while haha...
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we can ask anyone to not to buy htc products for a while haha...
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You're not afraid to get laught at aren't you ?

Well, I'm for sure not buying any locked HTC crap anymore.

+1 signed.
this is really a nice idea. But may not be successful unless if it affects the htc market.

Please share this - the more signatures the better
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Signed! - With locked bootloaders, the best phone maker may as well be making paperweights!

Signed
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+1 signed...

edit: never mind...
edit: pls add some description on the thread itself.

would do but havent had time - may do over long weekend. if anyone would like to write one feel free and i may use it

+ 1 signed

For those wanting it here is the logo I made in fireworks
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Bump we need more sigs
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"Most consumer complaint websites just talk the talk. We take real action for you. If this groubal receives enough signatures, we will take the complaint directly to the business on your behalf and demand action."
i really cant see this having ANY effect what so ever in my opinion, its gonna take at least a few thousand signatures before any thought of action will be taken, 52 signatures is laughable really. A new an better budget smart phone will be available by the time this is through and the Wildfire will be obsolete.

The reason i used that one is that the motorola one was on that site and that one did work
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Sprint Within

Samsung Galaxy S II US carrier names revealed: AT&T Attain, Verizon Function, and Sprint Within.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-us-carrier-names-revealed-atandt-attain-veri/

This is old news
These names are just getting stupider and stupider
They should just hire me I can make up way better names
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^agreed. Especially the sprint within. That's the worst one. But altleast we are getting it.
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sprint within? thats gayer than cum on a mustache.

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sprint within? thats gayer than cum on a mustache.
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Thats only gay if you clean it off with your tongue. Otherwise its just silly good natured fun.

Lol Sprint Within...that makes me laugh

Names aside, the significant old news -- albeit speculatively based upon this one web page from the aftermarket manufacturer/vendor of the gel case -- is that the Sprint "Within" apparently has no keyboard.

There's a little Sprint within you, and you, and you...

k0nane said:
There's a little Sprint within you, and you, and you...
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/douchechills
Can totally see them marketing it like that.

k0nane said:
There's a little Sprint within you, and you, and you...
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Does that come with a thanks button too?

Heres some new info.... Its coming!
First Sprint branded pic leaked:
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Looks like everyone but the U.S. is getting the Samsung Galaxy S II one way or the other and it seems like future owners have been waiting an eternity to get one. Hopefully Sprint will launch its version of the phone in a matter of weeks as what is believed to be called the Galaxy Within has been allegedly pictured above.
As you can see in the comparison shot we've put together below, the basic lines and what appear to be specifications are quite the same. Give or take a couple of details, you still have your eight-megapixel at the back but this time above the flash --which also seems larger -- instead of its left.
The Sprint logo should clear any doubts of the destination for the Within and the side buttons/rockers seem to match. With its 1.2GHz Exynos CPU coupled with 1GB of RAM, 4.3-inch Super AMOLEDPlus screen and a two-megapixel front facing camera, the Galaxy Within would be the EVO 3D's strongest competitor on Sprint. For all of you out there waiting, it should be coming soon -- late July according to rumors -- and with Android 2.3.4 at that!

Sprint within sounds corny... now..
Samsung Galaxy WiThin. A galaxy s2 variant. Much better!!
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within = WImax THin

ls there a reason to upgrade from the Epic? I'm only a year into my contract with Sprint. Is there a way to get a discount on the Within and then sell the Epic on Ebay?

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within = WImax THin
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Thank you for posting that. Too many people think its within like "hopefully the phone will be released within the next few weeks!" WiThin...WiMax, Thin...second thinnest phone in the world...allegedly
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It's passed the FCC now.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/27/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-with-wimax-stops-by-the-fcc-on-its-way-to-sp/
I had to upgrade in July due to a weird Premier loophole that allows me one more yearly update that expired 7/31, so I'm praying that this baby comes out in August so I can exchange for it. C'MON GSII on Sprint!

Old news it passed the fcc around 2 weeks ago
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It's passed the FCC now.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/27/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-with-wimax-stops-by-the-fcc-on-its-way-to-sp/
I had to upgrade in July due to a weird Premier loophole that allows me one more yearly update that expired 7/31, so I'm praying that this baby comes out in August so I can exchange for it. C'MON GSII on Sprint!
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It won't be release till September. Its going to be called the epic touch 4g
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HTC CEO Confirms "We will no longer be locking bootloaders" !!

"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
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Post in general you'll be loved
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Yeah, I was already in the Nexus One forum by mistake. I have it bookmarked and brought it up by default, then realized afterwards lol.
So, I posted there too

Wow is this awesome. I live HTC just for the fact they listened and realized and changed their mind. They deserve to make a ton of money for this alone.

so ytf did they do it in the first place
it's a bit late isn't it? the sensation and flier are already locked...

Great news for the XDA & HTC gang!!

Good move by HTC lol. Motorola should be following its leader and listen to us too since they don't know how to make a decent skin
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This will keep us all happy i think.

To bad it wouldn't apply to old HTC. But great news!
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Are they going to release updates to unlock bootloaders on existing phones? Seems like a bit of a slap to say this just after they've released a new line of phones (Desire S, Sensation, Incredible S)?
Still, better this than nothing.

Cool move.. HTC+Android rulez

There has been no comment yet as to whether they will make this retro to other devices. There is no technical impediment to doing so although resources would have to be applied to it on their end. Mentioned on another forum was that even if they do not go there themselves they can back door it to any number of sources in the community. I picked up an sgs2 right as they came but might have waited a little longer and looked harder at the sensation if I had known they were going to reverse their corporate direction regarding locked bootloaders.

karl_eller said:
Are they going to release updates to unlock bootloaders on existing phones? Seems like a bit of a slap to say this just after they've released a new line of phones (Desire S, Sensation, Incredible S)?
Still, better this than nothing.
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There has been no comment yet as to whether they will make this retro to other devices. There is no technical impediment to doing so although resources would have to be applied to it on their end. Mentioned on another forum was that even if they do not go there themselves they can back door it to any number of sources in the community. I picked up an sgs2 right as they came but might have waited a little longer and looked harder at the sensation if I had known they were going to reverse their corporate direction regarding locked bootloaders.
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It would be cool if they fully unlock the bootloader on the Nexus One. We currently don't have fastboot access to all the partitions.

Just an update to this, in case anyone missed it.
Yesterday androidandme report HTC is releasing an OTA to unlock the bootloaders of the Sensation..

Yep, does look better for the Sensations unlocked bootloader. Another article at tmonews here

Sprint To Finally Retire The Evo 4G?

Sprint To Finally Retire The Evo 4G?
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It’s looking like Sprint has signed off on death warrants for a few of its handsets, including our nation’s first-ever 4G smartphone, the Evo 4G. According to a leaked screenshot of this internal Sprint document (discovered by SprintFeed), at least 10 phones are getting the ax.
First up on the chopping block are the pink Samsung Seek and the blue Sanyo Innuendo, which will both get their EOL (end of life) branding in the next two weeks. Then, the Motorola i1 will see its end along with the grey BlackBerry Style 9670 around the end of July/early August.
Following those funerals, September will hit and bring with it a world of pain. The white Evo 4G will be no more, along with the BlackBerry Bold 9650 (rear-camera model) and the grey BlackBerry Curve. A month later, we’ll have to say goodbye to the Samsung Epic 4G, the Samsung Transform, and the black Evo 4G.
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Many of these models have successors that are either in the works or on shelves now. But if you’ve had your heart set on an Evo 4G, Samsung Epic 4G, or any of these other doomed phones, get your rear in gear because they won’t be around much longer.

Yeah, it will be gone by October.
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This is saddening, buy I cant say I didnt see it coming with all the new phones coming out, explains why they could care less about unlocking the bootloader for my evo!
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cliffy74 said:
This is saddening, buy I cant say I didnt see it coming with all the new phones coming out, explains why they could care less about unlocking the bootloader for my evo!
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And if Sprint had anything to do with it this would make sense.

Yeah I know the blame is on htc
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Not like this should surprise anyone. Once the new models are out, generally you retire the old ones.

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No one can't say it didn't have a good run; the evo still sells like hotcakes.

So when will they replace the evo with 3d for tep replacements?
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So when will they replace the evo with 3d for tep replacements?
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when the stock of refurbs is gone

kaoss_11 said:
when the stock of refurbs is gone
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& don't expect it anytime soon lol, & just because Sprint is declaring the Evo dead doesn't mean our devs are doing the same =)
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I prefer my OG evo over the 3d but that's for another day.
I hope they have plenty of refurbs like when I had my palm pre, Sprint actually still has replacement pres for the 10 or so pre owners left.

HTC explains decision to skip Android 4.0 for Desire HD

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http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/28/htc-explains-decision-to-skip-android-4-0-for-desire-hd/
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well played HTC, well played ...
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well played HTC, well played ...
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Quote!
I think that the next will be Sensation's series with Jelly bean!

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I think that the next will be Sensation's series with Jelly bean!
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you bet lots of dissapointments lately

Ohhhh the irony!!!! The Desire HD/Z were the devices that launched their htcsense.com service, a service that could backup all of the personal data on your phone into the cloud. Earlier this year they shut said service down and this has resulted in the death of the ICS update. They were born together and they died together. Very poetic or something...

My next phone will not be HTC made!!!
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I love HTC's hardware and design, but they screwing up the software side more and more. Can't they just release a 3.0 kernel for DHD for developers? I mean they're multi-billion dollar companies and can't even spend a few thousands to develop a 3.0 kernel? We have developers doing the same thing in their free time here . . .
I wouldn't have been this sour if they didn't say "We will release ICS for DHD next year" and went "Oh no, we won't, why? Because **** you that's why.". My next phone will be a Google phone and it will probably come from Samsung.

Bye bye HTC. Nothing more to say.

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I love HTC's hardware and design, but they screwing up the software side more and more. Can't they just release a 3.0 kernel for DHD for developers? I mean they're multi-billion dollar companies and can't even spend a few thousands to develop a 3.0 kernel? We have developers doing the same thing in their free time here . . .
I wouldn't have been this sour if they didn't say "We will release ICS for DHD next year" and went "Oh no, we won't, why? Because **** you that's why.". My next phone will be a Google phone and it will probably come from Samsung.
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They've already spent a bunch of time and money on it. They need to just "accidentally" leak their source as is. That's free.
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Ohhhh the irony!!!! The Desire HD/Z were the devices that launched their htcsense.com service, a service that could backup all of the personal data on your phone into the cloud. Earlier this year they shut said service down and this has resulted in the death of the ICS update. They were born together and they died together. Very poetic or something...
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Looks like HTC is started to dying like Nokia or RIM..

Well I was going to get tge latest HTC pgobe in October, now I think I will look elsewhere.
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this is not explanation!
Atleast they can STILL PROVIDE UPDATE
because No one is FORCING U TO UPDATE if u fear to lost the data....
some people dont care about that so just give the update, those ho fear to lose some data, no one is forcing them to update if they fear!!!

Just hand it out to the devs, HTC...

How about they do it like samsung or iPhone via a computer where u can back up all u data and install what ever ics they provide and restore back u data? It's just a lame excuse from them not to do it. Probably its full of bugs and all dhd newer then a year will be returned. My 2 cents
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Just hand it out to the devs, HTC...
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...or just 'casually' leak it, unofficially.

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Looks like HTC is started to dying like Nokia or RIM..
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I personally think the main reason this has happened to HTC is because of the whole Beats crap. Before HTC had an image of well built technically advanced handsets and focusing on the whole Sense thing. Over the last year and a bit this has turned into Beats by Dr Dre and all that kind of nonsense.

Chill guys, put down the pitchforks. We just need source for the Desire S or Incredible S and then it'll be fully working.

"Fitting all that Ice Cream Sandwich into the Desire HD would require repartitioning the internal space, and repartitioning risks overwriting personal content"
I think HTC forgot that we have something call the micoSD card...:silly:
With most apps, photos, videos, personal data can be backup to the micoSD card, how "much" personal content will we risk to lose?
well play HTC well play :good:

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Chill guys, put down the pitchforks. We just need source for the Desire S or Incredible S and then it'll be fully working.
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If you promise me you'll buy me a car and you don't but I manage to build one by myself, should I just say ok no problem?? It's a stupid example, but they said they would release it, so they had to release it.
I personally won't buy anymorew from htc, unless they do something awesome, and they haven't been doing it for the last year, so I have little hope....