"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
Source:
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Yeah, I was already in the Nexus One forum by mistake. I have it bookmarked and brought it up by default, then realized afterwards lol.
So, I posted there too
Wow is this awesome. I live HTC just for the fact they listened and realized and changed their mind. They deserve to make a ton of money for this alone.
so ytf did they do it in the first place
it's a bit late isn't it? the sensation and flier are already locked...
Great news for the XDA & HTC gang!!
Good move by HTC lol. Motorola should be following its leader and listen to us too since they don't know how to make a decent skin
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This will keep us all happy i think.
To bad it wouldn't apply to old HTC. But great news!
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Are they going to release updates to unlock bootloaders on existing phones? Seems like a bit of a slap to say this just after they've released a new line of phones (Desire S, Sensation, Incredible S)?
Still, better this than nothing.
Cool move.. HTC+Android rulez
There has been no comment yet as to whether they will make this retro to other devices. There is no technical impediment to doing so although resources would have to be applied to it on their end. Mentioned on another forum was that even if they do not go there themselves they can back door it to any number of sources in the community. I picked up an sgs2 right as they came but might have waited a little longer and looked harder at the sensation if I had known they were going to reverse their corporate direction regarding locked bootloaders.
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Are they going to release updates to unlock bootloaders on existing phones? Seems like a bit of a slap to say this just after they've released a new line of phones (Desire S, Sensation, Incredible S)?
Still, better this than nothing.
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There has been no comment yet as to whether they will make this retro to other devices. There is no technical impediment to doing so although resources would have to be applied to it on their end. Mentioned on another forum was that even if they do not go there themselves they can back door it to any number of sources in the community. I picked up an sgs2 right as they came but might have waited a little longer and looked harder at the sensation if I had known they were going to reverse their corporate direction regarding locked bootloaders.
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It would be cool if they fully unlock the bootloader on the Nexus One. We currently don't have fastboot access to all the partitions.
Just an update to this, in case anyone missed it.
Yesterday androidandme report HTC is releasing an OTA to unlock the bootloaders of the Sensation..
Yep, does look better for the Sensations unlocked bootloader. Another article at tmonews here
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http://nexus404.com/Blog/2011/01/16...t-mobile-vibrants-lack-of-android-2-2-update/
check it out theyre delaying froyo for the vibrant owners on tmo, and now there is a class action suit on it...lol i hope it makes it to court so then every single manufacturer gets their **** straight before promising upgrades
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Nice lawsuit.
Nice thread.
Nice pic.
I hope samsung gets rolled on like saddam's army.
I would love to see this lawsuit go somewhere, but the only one that will benefit is lawyers. Phone makers just wont announce any updates until they are ready to be released fearful of lawsuits.
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Nice lawsuit.
Nice thread.
Nice pic.
I hope samsung gets rolled on like saddam's army.
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This is my favorite response of the day.
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Btw............
*tosses OP an m1a1*
You're gonna need it to protect against the rockets that's gonna be hurled at you lol
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Yeah I don't really see this taking off. For one it is inaccurate. It states that the other branded Galaxy S phones have been upgraded to Froyo. Last time I checked none of them have Froyo yet.
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Yeah I don't really see this taking off. For one it is inaccurate. It states that the other branded Galaxy S phones have been upgraded to Froyo. Last time I checked none of them have Froyo yet.
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The i9000 does. And the canadians.
Its just the US.
And I think samsung purposely told tmo to not release the update because it would impeed sales of the vibrant 4g, which would definitely be against the law since all galaxy s phones were launched with the specific statement of "will be upgraded to android 2.2"
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The i9000 does. And the canadians.
Its just the US.
And I think samsung purposely told tmo to not release the update because it would impeed sales of the vibrant 4g, which would definitely be against the law since all galaxy s phones were launched with the specific statement of "will be upgraded to android 2.2"
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I still don't see how its against the law. Frowned on yes but illegal? as long as they come out with 2.2 its not false advertisement.
The original post is in the xda vibrant general section. It has the lawyers name, number, etc. Can't link atm.
link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912480
about time.
False. He didn't even put the paperwork in. He lied from the beginning, and from the looks of things he was marketing himself, and now is selling is rap music. So looks like he pulled a fast one on people. Great way for him to get his name out there.
UPDATE
"There has been overwhelmingly customer feedback that people want access to open bootloaders on HTC phones. I want you to know that we've listened. Today, I'm confirming we will no longer be locking the bootloaders on our devices. Thanks for your passion, support and patience," Peter Chou, CEO of HTC
What is the point of this?
The idea of this is to convince htc to unlock the bootloaders and disable the NAND protection on their phones
Why should I support this?
Unlocking the bootloader and disabling the NAND protection will allow users to keep their phones up to date using custom roms such as CM7. Take the htc wildfire for example. In december 2010, HTC released a 2.2 update for the wildfire. However, hidden in this update was a new bootloader which could not (and still can not as of the 15th may 2011) be modified. It is unlikely that HTC will release another update for this phone, meaning that users are going to be stuck on this rom. The reason? So HTC can sell new phones. However what this is doing is putting users off buying HTC's devices since rival companies have announced that the users can easily unlock the bootloaders on their devices.
To support the campaign please sign the petition at http://goo.gl/uIeqv and you can like us on facebook at http://goo.gl/e1CqN and you can see updates on my blog at http://goo.gl/KdpFr
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What does everyone else think
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It is an nice intiative, but as already stated in other toppics, htc will for sure not unlock there bootloaders. It is just this what the economy is driving on: everyone has to buy new things as much as possible. It can be done in two ways: by making a crapy device or by constanly bringing out new devices. And since the first option will make people angry and go to other manufactures, the only thing left is to make sure that every device gets outdated. And thus to lock the bootloader.
But I signed the petition anyway, perhaps it will make them go searching for other options to make money.
Erwin
Well let's hope this can be as big as the Motorola one
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we can ask anyone to not to buy htc products for a while haha...
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we can ask anyone to not to buy htc products for a while haha...
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You're not afraid to get laught at aren't you ?
Well, I'm for sure not buying any locked HTC crap anymore.
+1 signed.
this is really a nice idea. But may not be successful unless if it affects the htc market.
Please share this - the more signatures the better
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Signed! - With locked bootloaders, the best phone maker may as well be making paperweights!
Signed
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+1 signed...
edit: never mind...
edit: pls add some description on the thread itself.
would do but havent had time - may do over long weekend. if anyone would like to write one feel free and i may use it
+ 1 signed
For those wanting it here is the logo I made in fireworks
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i really cant see this having ANY effect what so ever in my opinion, its gonna take at least a few thousand signatures before any thought of action will be taken, 52 signatures is laughable really. A new an better budget smart phone will be available by the time this is through and the Wildfire will be obsolete.
The reason i used that one is that the motorola one was on that site and that one did work
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Seriously considering going back from the 3d to the original EVO as the new one...mine at least, simply has too many problems that get in the way of actually doing work on the thing.
Can a new off the shelf EVO with the current software build still be rooted?
I did search but didn't find an answer to this specific question so any help would be greatly appreciated.,
If it has 2.3.3 and the radio is s-on you're out of luck....for now.
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Seriously considering going back from the 3d to the original EVO as the new one...mine at least, simply has too many problems that get in the way of actually doing work on the thing.
Can a new off the shelf EVO with the current software build still be rooted?
I did search but didn't find an answer to this specific question so any help would be greatly appreciated.,
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No.
You did a search? Ha.
No root! Did you search here or some other non cellphone fourm for EVO 2.3.3 root? 2.3.3 is not rootable. No one cares about the EVO 2.3.3 We are the red head step children of the cellphone world.
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No one cares about the EVO 2.3.3 We are the red head step children of the cellphone world.
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lol I doubt that, still the most selling HTC phone ever...still selling too.
Finding an exploit can take awhile.
If you recall, Firmware 3.70 took several months too.
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It will come eventually... Just will take time to root the stock gb evo... Be patient, it will happen
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I call BS on that claim. What terms did you search for? I've come across multiple "I just replaced my phone because the screen broke/my dog chewed it/I went deep sea diving with it. Is it rootable?" posts without even trying to find them.
i am amazed and surprised it was not rooted within 1 week of the release.
??????
Dan330 said:
i am amazed and surprised it was not rooted within 1 week of the release.
??????
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Its all about the bootloader, and that can take some time.
jfenton57 said:
Seriously considering going back from the 3d to the original EVO as the new one...mine at least, simply has too many problems that get in the way of actually doing work on the thing.
Can a new off the shelf EVO with the current software build still be rooted?
I did search but didn't find an answer to this specific question so any help would be greatly appreciated.,
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quite funny on how you did a search, this Topic is plastered all over xda and android central about not being able to root with a 2.3.3
On the other hand, i've heard plenty of rumors that they 2.3.3 was recalled and they are not updating now.. which sucks because I got mine with a 2.3.3 and hate not being rooted
But will HTC really unlock the 4G now that the 3D is out? I've not been able to find anything anywhere that specifically states that the 4G will be unlocked in the future. I'm pestering them on Facebook and so far they've refused to say that they have any intentions of unlocking the bootloader.
i doubt htc will unlock evo 4g. this will have to be done by devs.
htc said they will try to unlock future phones... not past phones.
it started with evo3d & sensation.
locked htc botloader is not new... evo 4g has always had it...this new one must have some type of new security.
It is too bad that they can't put the previous bootloader back on the phone through an update or something. At least that could be worked through.
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I call BS on that claim. What terms did you search for? I've come across multiple "I just replaced my phone because the screen broke/my dog chewed it/I went deep sea diving with it. Is it rootable?" posts without even trying to find them.
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Not to mention a quick glance of the first damn page haha
If this is true we could be looking at next month for ICS
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2011/11/samsung_galaxy_s2_ice_cream_sandwich_in_december/
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If this is true we could be looking at next month for ICS
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2011/11/samsung_galaxy_s2_ice_cream_sandwich_in_december/
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Considering he said December for the Evo 3D, which HTC already confirmed would be updated in January, I would take this with a large spoonful of salt.
a date release fir galaxy s2
any date to ICS release?
Thread No34 and counting....sigh
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does it matter how many different threads there are?
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Some people just have zero patience
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does it matter how many different threads there are?
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"Different"?
Thats the thing, they're not different at all! They're exactly the same!
Except they are not, the link I posted was put online today and I don't really care how many there at, if I want to ask a question I will.
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It has been confirmed that the SGS2 will get Icecream sandwich now when we gonna get is another thing, only bet is if Sammobile can get an early leak for us before its officially released which I dont see happening in atleast another six months has they will defo give atleast 3 months for the nexus to sell before pumping it out for the other phones
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If this is true we could be looking at next month for ICS
http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2011/11/samsung_galaxy_s2_ice_cream_sandwich_in_december/
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Samsung italy said that ICS will be released in Q2. Maybe earlier there will be some leak
Given that the source code is out there, would any of the custom rom developers be working on it? or do they wait for an official samsung release before customising. I am new to the whole thing
Hell, if one of them wanted to go crazy with it they could make a fortune selling it at a couple bucks a pop It's probably against the spirit of the whole thing though.
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Given that the source code is out there, would any of the custom rom developers be working on it? or do they wait for an official samsung release before customising. I am new to the whole thing
Hell, if one of them wanted to go crazy with it they could make a fortune selling it at a couple bucks a pop It's probably against the spirit of the whole thing though.
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The source code for ICS has not been released yet and won't be until the Galaxy Nexus is released.
When it is released, ICS ROMs will be a dime a dozen. Some will be great, some will suck ****. With Cyanogenmod being free, no one will pay for another rom. Charging for a hacked rom might also land someone in some legal hot water.
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Except they are not, the link I posted was put online today and I don't really care how many there at, if I want to ask a question I will.
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Great attitude, lets spam the forums just because we can!
/facepalm
shows how much my noob finger is on the pulse. For some strange reason, I thought the code had been released on the announce date last month.
Back to my box then
that was the SDK
All the devs here need is a full leak then maybe we can have ICS before the official release. Soooo anyone care to leak?
My take is, it is definitely getting 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 but no time as to when, and 4.0 is possible but no official word yet.
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Those mother ****ers. Instead of ICS in April, they are gonna give us 2.3.4 or 2.3.6
Could you not see that happening?
I just got off from live chat with verizon and the rep told me that she does not know if it will get an ics update but it will more then likely. I can about guarantee you none of these reps know anything about any of this they just have a list to of catch phrases to say for each phone to keep the customers content until there contract is up, or they get the one year upgrade.
Just got off from another chat with a different agent and she said there is no way for them to confirm any kind of update for the device. I have screenshots if you want proof.
Typical Verizon run around. I don't think they have a damn clue.
I doubt they do the rep tired to sell me the galaxy nexus, she was going on and on about it already having ics on it and i should get that phone if i wanted ics. I told her that if verizon doesnt update the play there isnt a chance i would upgrade my device i would switch networks.
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I doubt they do the rep tired to sell me the galaxy nexus, she was going on and on about it already having ics on it and i should get that phone if i wanted ics. I told her that if verizon doesnt update the play there isnt a chance i would upgrade my device i would switch networks.
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If I get my own line AT&T here I come. Verizon is going to lose a lot of customers.
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I doubt they do the rep tired to sell me the galaxy nexus, she was going on and on about it already having ics on it and i should get that phone if i wanted ics. I told her that if verizon doesnt update the play there isnt a chance i would upgrade my device i would switch networks.
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You lot still don't have the 2.3.4 update ?
Nope we don't
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Verizon takes forever to get updates out. We'll probably see 2.3.4 when 4.0 is out.
Verizon cares about lost customers as much as it does about pushing updates...
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They will care when they loose enough customers
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Verizon cares about lost customers as much as it does about pushing updates...
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Hahahahaha
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They will care when they loose enough customers
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Until another network has equal voice quality, and voice/data coverage, they won't loose customers.
There will be an intermediary release before the VZW Xperia Play receives ICS, but it will receive ICS
Just curious but how do you know this? Not slamming you.. just that we have all heard VZ talking out their ass about our R800x...
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