[Q] Exchanging a rooted nexus 7 - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I should be receiving my nexus 7 from the play store any minute now. However, since I have been hearing alot of defects reported I am initially nervous to root. Assuming that nothing goes wrong with the rooting, will I be able to exchange my device with the play store if i later on find a issue with the device? Like restore it completly so i can send it back if need be?
The reason I ask, I want to start downloading all of my games, shadowgun, dead trigger, etc (which will be several gigabites) and I would like to have root so i can backup these apps when I go to start loading roms.

You shouLD BE fine. My nexus 7 came in perfect. No display issues or anything. Just unroot the device should you choose to exchange it.

demandarin said:
You shouLD BE fine. My nexus 7 came in perfect. No display issues or anything. Just unroot the device should you choose to exchange it.
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so no flash counter or anything that will give them an indication i rooted it?

ndeer44 said:
so no flash counter or anything that will give them an indication i rooted it?
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Nope... This is a pure Google device and just like the Galaxy Nexus you can root / unroot and lock / unlock the boot loader with no indication that you have done either..

No only Samsung has that crap.
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colonel187 said:
No only Samsung has that crap.
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HTC does as well...

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DRM and root.

I have had my nexus 7 since Friday. I hadn't planned on rooting it because jelly bean is extremely nice and I wanted to be able to watch Play Store movies without being denied for DRM issues as i had been before on rooted devices.
After setting up my tablet, I began download the Transformers move to my device. Just for giggles I decided to try the same on my rooted GNex with Razors Jelly 2.6 on it. The movie streamed with no issues and downloaded as well. Playback worked with both methods. I have not tried this with any other play store video content as of yet.
I guess my question(s) is/are, what has changed? Is this a jelly bean phenomenon? Does the Play Store no longer look for root? Has anyone with a rooted nexus 7 tablet been able to do the same with any other video content from Play? I know, that's a lot of questions and I'm sure that I'll get blasted for not searching, but after a dozen failed searches I could not find the answers that I was looking for.
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a few weeks ago google enabled the play store movies to now work with root.
So you can now be rooted and have full access to the play store. I'm assuming it was partly due to the Nexus 7's pending release.
Now many other services such as Ultraviolet with Flixster still do look for root and you'll have to use a temp unroot to use them.
neok44 said:
a few weeks ago google enabled the play store movies to now work with root.
So you can now be rooted and have full access to the play store. I'm assuming it was partly due to the Nexus 7's pending release.
Now many other services such as Ultraviolet with Flixster still do look for root and you'll have to use a temp unroot to use them.
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Thanks for that. I want to read up on the subject. Interestingly enough my TWC TV app is listed as incompatible with the 7. It worked with the tab 2 7.0. Now all I need to do is head over to the Galaxy Nexus thread and find out which temp unroot to use that doesn't totally bork my phone!
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i use Voodoo OTA RootKeeper app from the play store. don't know if it works with the N7 though.
On my galaxy nexus it's perfect. disable root, ultraviolet works, re-enable and back to root like nothing happened.
neok44 said:
i use Voodoo OTA RootKeeper app from the play store. don't know if it works with the N7 though.
On my galaxy nexus it's perfect. disable root, ultraviolet works, re-enable and back to root like nothing happened.
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I'm running Razors Jelly. I don't remember if I tried that one or not. I tried two or three and decided that I never wanted to try again.
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Temp unroot isn't guaranteed, the Barclays banking apps for instance still refuse to work even with temporary unrooting.
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My issue was that root never came back. One question, will I still be able to boot into cwm to restore a backup if things go wrong? I want smart enough to think of that last time around.
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tsruggles said:
I have had my nexus 7 since Friday. I hadn't planned on rooting it because jelly bean is extremely nice and I wanted to be able to watch Play Store movies without being denied for DRM issues as i had been before on rooted devices.
After setting up my tablet, I began download the Transformers move to my device. Just for giggles I decided to try the same on my rooted GNex with Razors Jelly 2.6 on it. The movie streamed with no issues and downloaded as well. Playback worked with both methods. I have not tried this with any other play store video content as of yet.
I guess my question(s) is/are, what has changed? Is this a jelly bean phenomenon? Does the Play Store no longer look for root? Has anyone with a rooted nexus 7 tablet been able to do the same with any other video content from Play? I know, that's a lot of questions and I'm sure that I'll get blasted for not searching, but after a dozen failed searches I could not find the answers that I was looking for.
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I had Transformers on my N7. I rooted which wiped everything and when I went to try to redownload it there was no way to do so.
94SupraTT said:
I had Transformers on my N7. I rooted which wiped everything and when I went to try to redownload it there was no way to do so.
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thats strange, Ive rooted and wiped over and over again the last few days and all of my freebies are still available to me

Google Play Books starting to get annoying.

Does anyone have this issue with Google Play Books working then after 2 days the app is missing? When ever it happens I have to uninstall updates then update it again for it to show up. I think part of it is that I live in Guam, part of U.S. at the same time not really. Same situation as Puerto Rico. Anyone have any suggestions for this problem. Besides going back to the mainland.
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I was able to download the app back from the Play store after it disappeared and now it stays. Go look through the list of apps you own / have downloaded.
It disappeared again from the home screen and app drawer, widget disappeared too, so I decided to check settings>apps> all and its there but unusable, have to uninstall then install. Sigh, it's such a hassle to check if it disappeared when going to places without Wi-Fi.Just purchased 3 books, and would be a waste of money to switch to another app.
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If you are rooted, you can convert it to a user app instead of system and it'll stay. That's what I did and I've never actually been to the us
I see, thanks, just going to stay stock for a month. I've always rooted my phones on day one and never experienced pure stock before, plus its different with a nexus, there's no sd card, so all my content would get wiped, nearly filled my 16 gb, and could imagine how long everything would take to put back.
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sol_671 said:
Does anyone have this issue with Google Play Books working then after 2 days the app is missing? When ever it happens I have to uninstall updates then update it again for it to show up. I think part of it is that I live in Guam, part of U.S. at the same time not really. Same situation as Puerto Rico. Anyone have any suggestions for this problem. Besides going back to the mainland.
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Little Tip mate, stop uninstalling and re-downloading etc.
Try downloading a File Explorer e.g. - ES File Explorer.
Find the App in the File Explorer, long press it and click "Create Shortcut" BAM!
Hope this helps !
sol_671 said:
I see, thanks, just going to stay stock for a month. I've always rooted my phones on day one and never experienced pure stock before, plus its different with a nexus, there's no sd card, so all my content would get wiped, nearly filled my 16 gb, and could imagine how long everything would take to put back.
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I'm still on stock too, I just unlocked and flashed su and bb for the little extra functionality.
Sadly, unlocking will do a complete wipe. But I picked up something about rooting without unlocking, using a method from the galaxy. Not sure it'll work tho, at least one person here suggested that it should. Might be worth looking up if you feel books is worth the trouble

How can I revert back to 4.1.2? This update ruined my stock nexus grrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
taqulic said:
4.2. Is a flop as far as I'm concerned..
Download factory image here https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Then use this guide here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1907796
Be mindful to make sure filenames are correct .(this is an older guide.)
If you want to save your data, back it up onto computer(this erases everything)
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Or you can use Nexus 7 toolkit to download and flash back to stock with one step
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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jt.one said:
tbh, grab WUG's nexus toolkit.
click the great "revert to stock" button
select stock nakasi 4.1.2
blah blah blah
once back and running, relock bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
back running stock 4.1.2
????
profit
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Huh? Lol I got the program but your directions are scary lol im a noob lol go easy on me but the line with? Marks leaves a lot to the imagination
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I downloaded the wug toolkit but how do you install it? It only gives me options to open as picture, audio, text an so on with es file explorer.
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LoL ha ha ha ha dude I am tripping over this cuz I to have a total stock N7 and I waited for the update OTA and then downloaded it and I absolutely have NO PROBLEMS with 4.2 so I guess my question is how did he download it was it from GOOGLE OTA or from someone who posted a zip just curious GOD BLESS YOU GUYS
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
Please tell me there's a way to revert if I'm stock? Or if I need to root i will since the Google idiots have f'ed up my perfect tablet, im pissed off, these morons did not even test this crap first! Thanks
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I'm curious if you are stock and didn't lose tablet mode or anything like that what you find so horrible about about 4.2?
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I have to agree this update should not have been released, I'm stock on the nexus 7 and its so buggy! It keeps stuttering, taken ages to load webpages , all that project butter has gone, not happy, funny enough it's perfect on my galaxy nexus which is running 4.2 stock rooted, BTW I got the update ota
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To add to this, I've just tried to set up a second user and the setup crashed once , gave me a blank screen for 10 seconds every time I pressed next, then the launcher crashed twice , gave me a blank screen for over a minute, stuttering when swiping side to side, even now as I type this its not registering a click then I click again and I get two letters ..... And pinch zoom is jerky! Wtf happened?!?! Hope there's a fix on the way, this is the one device I'm reluctant to root and install custom ROM simply because 4.1 was perfect
Guys just download nexus 7 toolkit and flash 4.1 image... Sorry, but even me (girl) was able to do this succesfully.
Lmfao ok ok you guys win haha but i am stock and it was official update. Im good on pcs but this is my first tablet, android is new to me anyway im on pain pills for broken leg from a motorcycle accident so my head is definitely not all there lately but ya lets hear the jokes about that now. And no that pervert in my pic is not me, although it fits my brain power lately lol
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Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
Groid said:
Thanks for your reasoned response. I'm sure people will try to help you if you keep the tone more conciliatory. Could you be more specific about what has ruined your experience with the update? I honestly don't see that much different, other than having to wait a few days for devs to update borked apps. Stickmount is my biggest concern, and some of the video players. They'll get updated though. Hang in there and if you decide to go back, the Nexus Root Kit threads and WUGS toolkit thread at Android Forums can get you there if you carefully read the detailed instructions.
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The dev for stickymount says it may not be solvable, Multi-user by default is a nightmare.
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Yeah i noticed after updating that some of my apps that reinstalled after the update would crash when i tried opening them for the 1st time. i unistalled then reinstalled them and they worked fine after that. i too am not really liking the update hopefully i can find a way to revert back to 4.1.2 easily or theres some work arounds (especially for stick mount as mentioned earlier)
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
turdbogls said:
All this talk about apps not working is not on the new OS....well it kinda is but not really.
android releases the OS and DEVS have to update their apps to work with the new OS. they do this with the android SDK (i think) IMO, google SHOULD release the SDK for the new OS about a month out. giving Devs the option to update their apps before the OS hits getting rid of all "these" types of posts.
also, FWIW, i did a clean install of 4.2 and i haven't had a singe app crash on me except MX player (which was updated yesterday for 4.2) other than that, everything is smooth, fast, working wonderfully. i know its not what you want to hear, but maybe a clean wipe of the device would be best. Google wont put out a crappy update....but sometimes, for some reasons unknown, it doesn't take well to and update with all the user apps and their data. at the very lease, clear cache and see how it works.
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Completely agree. They new update 4.2 corrected a lot of bugs. The power management is a lot better and the memory management too. Ive run some test and saw that the system load is quite inferior to what it was before due to a more clean management process
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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TokenAntiAppleRant said:
Use Mskips toolkit. Option 9 lets you download the 4.1.2 stock image. Easy peasy
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Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
First I wanna ask anyone who says the 4.2 update is terrible if they even tried a full data wipe/factory reset? If not, try that before accusing Google of releasing buggy firmware. It could be your stinkin data/apps fault
Pandemonium2k4 said:
Look how easy this was when a decent person helps, thanks for the help! All rooted and flashed back! Thanks to all who actually helped!
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Most to all the people were decent. Plenty of people pointed you in the right direction, or linked to a guide. You gotta do a little researching and educate yourself a little so you understand the whole process.
Pandemonium2k4 said:
I will learn from this not to jump the gun, but mostly I read that the update was good. Youtube app crashes within a min, firefox, boat browser crash, amazon app store wont save my login now, there's more but cant think of at the moment. Oh Gmail app crashes, Google currents crashes and I haven't tried half of my other apps yet but I've seen enough to know this is complete crap. Im just mad that i have to illegally root and use someone's homemade software to restore my tablet, not sure it is illegal to root, nor would I care but it's the point.
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Nope, it's not illegal to root.. it will supposedly be illegal to unlock a phone (for another network) without the network's consent though.
Just think..there's no reason at all running custom firmware/roms/rooting can be illegal on a nexus device, why do you think the bootloader is effortlessly unlockable?
And if you think about it, no, it's not really crazy that is a "hassle" to revert to old firmware, because
A) most devices (Apple comes to mind) you can't do this, unless certain conditions apply (if you backed up SHSH blobs, etc etc)
B) if you understood the process of flashing the stock rom, and if you had ADB/fastboot setup correctly, it's simple as pie to flash the old firmware. And the "homemade software" is just an interface for n00bs (like yourself) and would not exist if it didn't use adb and fastboot behind the hood. And if you think it was hard to do what you did, you should try to do it on a device with a locked bootloader: (droid x2 comes to mind) it's a nightmare
So basically, Google has this wonderful OS and provides devs and users alike these wonderful tools (and Nexus hardware to match) at our disposable.
Idk about you, but I say kudos Google!
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Should i root my phone already.?

Well i am not a noob.I have used nexus s for year rooted it and enjoyed various launchers and roms.
But this one is my precious phone just bought one month back.
Two minds about rooting.Wanna try out Touchwiz 5.What say guyz shall i root?
(i wanna stay purestock by the way)
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Yes, I can't see see any disadvantage to rooting. It will allow you to do much more with your phone, more customization, more apps will work, etc. You should also look into custom kernels, they can help increase battery life a lot.
jadeisjaded said:
Yes, I can't see see any disadvantage to rooting. It will allow you to do much more with your phone, more customization, more apps will work, etc. You should also look into custom kernels, they can help increase battery life a lot.
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Can i successfully return to an UNROOTed STOCK thing in case of any problem??
Yes you can unroot and return to stock easily, especially if you use something like Nexus Root Toolkit, which has a button that just does that automatically.
Ok can i use franco kernel along with stock rom? i prefer having a pure google experience
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Nezam said:
Ok can i use franco kernel along with stock rom? i prefer having a pure google experience
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Sure you can.
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Sure you can.
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I am using the nexus toolkit.It goes till the Booting modified bootloader... but goes on Waiting for Device..
and my stock bootloader says "locked state:locked" but i am using a GSM carier in India and i can change my connection with
a change of sim card!
Please guide.
I just unrooted my last rooted device a few days ago. I just don't use root anymore anyway. But, I unlocked all bootloaders on all my devices just in case I would need to root again in the future.
For me, rooting lost its appeal with 4.1. I not against rooting, but I do really think it's now more an hobbyist thing than before. So, it's a personal choice / preference.
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I just unrooted my last rooted device a few days ago. I just don't use root anymore anyway. But, I unlocked all bootloaders on all my devices just in case I would need to root again in the future.
For me, rooting lost its appeal with 4.1. I not against rooting, but I do really think it's now more an hobbyist thing than before. So, it's a personal choice / preference.
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Using custom ROMS and simply staying stock is another talk..
we can keep stock and even then root.Doing so we can use certain apps or services which require rooting to either flash into it or make a
update zip.
I am keeping myself stock until i really really need to go to some
Nezam said:
Using custom ROMS and simply staying stock is another talk..
we can keep stock and even then root.Doing so we can use certain apps or services which require rooting to either flash into it or make a
update zip.
I am keeping myself stock until i really really need to go to some
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I've had my phone for two days and that's probably the longest I've gone without rooting a phone lol. The main reason I do it is for TB. I like to restore all my apps. I also am spoiled at this point. I had Illusion on my S3 and the customization if unbelievable. I loved all features on it So i'm looking at putting a custom ROM and kernel on mine today.
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I've had my phone for two days and that's probably the longest I've gone without rooting a phone lol. The main reason I do it is for TB. I like to restore all my apps. I also am spoiled at this point. I had Illusion on my S3 and the customization if unbelievable. I loved all features on it So i'm looking at putting a custom ROM and kernel on mine today.
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Haha same here. Got phone in the mail Thursday and got it rooted by Friday evening. Only reason it took so long was I got the phone for my daughter and I let her take it to school Friday morning.
My GS4 went from the store to home, open the box, rooted and flashed custom ROM. Total time from store to finish about 30 minutes.:good:

Root Help - Nexus 4

I know my Nexus is rooted, however, it was like this when I bought it. Are all roots the same or do I need to find out what one I have? If so, help!
Also, I want to unroot mine. There's apps I use quite heavily and since the device is rooted, it just won't let me :/
I moved over to this phone from my iPhone, but at the moment, with the likes of the mobile banking, I'm still having to carry the 2nd phone....
HELP?
BenWilliams21 said:
I know my Nexus is rooted, however, it was like this when I bought it. Are all roots the same or do I need to find out what one I have? If so, help!
Also, I want to unroot mine. There's apps I use quite heavily and since the device is rooted, it just won't let me :/
I moved over to this phone from my iPhone, but at the moment, with the likes of the mobile banking, I'm still having to carry the 2nd phone....
HELP?
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Stay with the iPhone or read stuff about root in this forum..
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I don't think you know what root is. Is your nexus a second hand nexus or you bought it from mobile store? If it's the latter than you don't get root permission out of the box. In addition, root access is simply a permission. No more, no less. It only gives you the permission to explore device partition which was not accessible before you are rooted. If you say you can't install apps because you are rooted then it just proved that you know nothing about root. I suggest you do a bit (I mean a lot) of reading. Btw, to unroot go into SuperSU apps and tap on full unroot or just flash back factory images (recommendable) so that you are back fully stock and have nothing to worry about anymore. Good luck.
BenWilliams21 said:
I know my Nexus is rooted, however, it was like this when I bought it. Are all roots the same or do I need to find out what one I have? If so, help!
Also, I want to unroot mine. There's apps I use quite heavily and since the device is rooted, it just won't let me :/
I moved over to this phone from my iPhone, but at the moment, with the likes of the mobile banking, I'm still having to carry the 2nd phone....
HELP?
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Well, I'm going to be a little nicer to you.
You are correct in the assumption that the phone is rooted. Quite a few banking apps (and other non banking apps) will not run on a rooted device. There is an app on the play store that might be the solution to your problem. The name escapes me right now but will post when I can find it.
In the meantime check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2018179
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devadvance.rootcloakplus
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