I haven't seen this reported anywhere else in these forums but one little post, but I've been waiting for an official miui v4 release for ages.
Now I've seen that g2/desire z isn't supported anymore, this happening from April
THIS IS ABSURD. Milestone will get it and we won't. It says we should have an official update planned and 576mb ram...
I can't think of this anything else than absurd...
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/end-of-life-announcement-for-the-following-roms.16243/
May we be able to contact XIAOMI to show them how many people are interested in MIUI for G2?
I know everything must end, but I don't think THIS must end
What do you thing
You need to contact HTC!
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I never tried miui so doesn't seem so shocking to me, I've only ever played with cyangenmod, adromadus, some sense and the elitemod I'm on currently, never bothered with MIUI since as someone put it was just an android OS trying to be as close to iOS as possible. And since it primarily seems to be concentrated on themes/eye-candy I don't really blame them, the device is aging.
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santajin said:
You need to contact HTC!
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What does HTC has to do with MIUI?
kbeezie said:
I never tried miui so doesn't seem so shocking to me, I've only ever played with cyangenmod, adromadus, some sense and the elitemod I'm on currently, never bothered with MIUI since as someone put it was just an android OS trying to be as close to iOS as possible. And since it primarily seems to be concentrated on themes/eye-candy I don't really blame them, the device is aging.
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What does HTC has to do with MIUI?
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Nothing at all.
I've tried miui once on an old nexus one and found it too much iosish, but then tried it again and loved it. If there have been newer ones, I would have adviced you to try it, but obviously... If you want, give it a week, and you may change idea. just suggesting
I don't think it matters if you did contact them or not. Don't get me started with HTC I'm totally disappointed with them. I can't believe I'm actually looking into buying Samsung because HTC disappering act. But let's wait and see hopefully we get a offical ICS leak that falls from the heavens. I'm not ready to give up my keyboard not now.lol
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They gave us the 2.3.30 updated in March, then they stopped due to stability with the rom. They couldn't see it getting any more stable so they just quite updating it.
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Strawmetal.mi is perfect, no need for further updates as it is completely functional. An ICS based MIUI just wouldn't run very well on our hardware.
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Strawmetal.mi is perfect, no need for further updates as it is completely functional. An ICS based MIUI just wouldn't run very well on our hardware.
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Least not until the DesireHD and other phones with similar hardware gets ICS officially (cuz then can take the 'stable' hardware driver from those kernels/roms).
I don't know if anyone got the memo but the DHD isn't getting an ICS update and being pissed about MIUI not updating due to stability issues is dumb.
The MSM8255 processor was used in an absolute metric boatload of devices.
Seriously, look at this.
Acer Iconia Smart, Acer Allegro, Fujitsu F-12C, HTC Desire HD, HTC Desire S, HTC Incredible S, HTC Inspire 4G, HTC One V, HTC Radar, Huawei U9000 Ideos X6, Huawei Vision, LG Eclypse,[14] Samsung Exhibit II 4G, Sharp Galapagos 003SH/005SH, Sharp Aquos Phone f (SH-13C), Sharp Aquos Phone the Hybrid (007SH/007SH J), Sharp Aquos Phone the Premium (009SH), Sony Ericsson Live with Walkman, Sony Ericsson Xperia Active, Sony Ericsson Xperia Arc, Sony Ericsson Xperia Acro (SO-02C), Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo V, Sony Ericsson Xperia Play (GSM), Sony Ericsson Xperia Pro, Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini Pro, Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray, T-Mobile myTouch 4G, ZTE Tania, ZTE 008Z, 1.4 GHz
Alcatel OT-995,[15] HP Pre 3, HTC Titan, HTC Titan II, Nokia Lumia 710, Nokia Lumia 800, Huawei U8860 Honor,[16] Samsung Focus S, Samsung Galaxy S Plus,[17] Samsung Galaxy W,[18] Samsung Omnia W, Sharp Aquos Phone SH-12C,[19] Sharp Aquos Phone 006SH, Sony Ericsson Xperia arc S[20]
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HTC Flyer, HTC Sensation XL, Samsung Galaxy Note (GT-N7003)
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How many of these devices have official ICS updates? I mean what is to say you can't use the drivers for the One V or just rip em out of the Sony Experia Pro or the Incredible S? What exactly is so special that we must use the DHD drivers?
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I don't know if anyone got the memo but the DHD isn't getting an ICS update and being pissed about MIUI not updating due to stability issues is dumb.
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Apparently you missed the memo: http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-s...tting-ics-refutes-reports-update-cancellation
HTC's Official response to the Telus PDF:
"We remain committed to providing customers with the latest software updates when possible. As such, we are pleased to confirm we are still on schedule to deliver an Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade for both the HTC Desire HD and Desire S."
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I don't read android central since they set the bar for low quality tech journalism. The only way I'd actually believe that article is if he posted a screenshot of the actual interaction with this 'HTC representative". Forgive my suspicion but tech journalism in general and android related journalism in particular is fraught with speculation, hearsay, and outright falsification.
Either way, my point still stands. There are a half dozen other devices using the same SoC as the DHD with an ice cream sandwich update out already. Unless there are very specific technical reasons why they cannot be combed for drivers, I don't see why that has not occurred already.
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I don't read android central since they set the bar for low quality tech journalism. The only way I'd actually believe that article is if he posted a screenshot of the actual interaction with this 'HTC representative". Forgive my suspicion but tech journalism in general and android related journalism in particular is fraught with speculation, hearsay, and outright falsification.
Either way, my point still stands. There are a half dozen other devices using the same SoC as the DHD with an ice cream sandwich update out already. Unless there are very specific technical reasons why they cannot be combed for drivers, I don't see why that has not occurred already.
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Well you could always call up or email HTC yourself and ask them to confirm the Telus paperwork...
It's useless to do that because everyone is already backtracking and going possiblyyesmaybeno
http://www.theverge.com/2012/7/20/3171779/htc-desire-hd-android-4-0-upgrade-status-uncertain
Seriously dude, I'll believe it when I actually see the zip file of the update myself. Speculation is nothing but speculation until the information we need is actually pushed. I won't bother emailing HTC customer service department because they're going to feed me the same line of bull**** that they're feeding Android Police, Android Central, The Verge, Telus, and god knows how many other people.
Again, my initial point stands. There are quite a few devices already out with ICS on an MSM8255. There is no reason that I am aware of which precludes combing through those driver packages for the bits we need save perhaps this pigheaded absolutism that WE MUST HAVE THE DHD UPDATE that has been spewed out by rote by everyone under the sun, myself included.
I challenge you to start asking around. Why can't we use alternative driver sources? Go bug people more technically minded than I and get a straight answer. All I've heard so far is a big void of silence.
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Im just super confused if x10 has MT or not its been published the last few months that it well have but sony says its not..hmm i guess the update well tell
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/16/sony-ericsson-x10-can-do-multitouch-after-all-will-get-android
"Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 to get multi-touch and Android 2.1?!
April 14, 2010 at 12:05 pm by Dan | In Mobile News, Mobile Phones, New Mobile Phones
The Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 is a worthy addition to the ever growing Android family, bringing a huge touchscreen display, best in class camera and unique offerings such as Timescape and Mediascape. But, as good as it is, the X10 is not without it’s drawbacks, most notably the fact that it’s stuck languishing on Android 1.6 and lacks support for multi-touch. But, this could all be about to change should the mutterings of a Sony Ericsson employee be taken at face value.
Speaking at the press event for the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 launch, the Sony Ericsson rep responded to criticisms of the outdated OS by stating that a “very big update” was due in Q2 of this year. Though obviously not wanting to give too much away, very big to us would definitely point towards the X10 joining the Android 2.1 crowd. That is unless Sony Ericsson have stolen a march on their rivals and will be updating to a new and as yet unreleased version of Android! Whatever it is, it’s gonna be big!
As if this wasn’t exciting enough, our man on the inside was also able to shed some light on the lack of multi-touch and potentially quash the rumours that the limitations are hardware based. Though specific details were thin on the ground, apparently multi-touch is also something that is on the cards and similarly we can expect to see an update at some point in the second quarter of the year. Keep an eye on the blog for more information as and when we get it.
UPDATE: Since this post was published, we’ve been contacted by Sony Ericsson who have stated that the X10 update will be available in the second HALF of 2010 (around September) rather than Q2. Apologies for the confusion but still, better late than never"
WOW, someone confirm. This is like mind blowing =O
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You should make the title something like "SE Confirms MT In Android 2.1?" Cause people probably think its another thread asking about MT
Hey SE....Less talk, more roll out!!!
The article is dated 16th of April.
Yea, def read that in April haha, nothing new, and pretty sure that link has been posted before.
Why not just wait and see? Nobody knows for sure. If you want mt, get Galaxy S or iPhone... Can we stop beating the dead horse?
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ROAR!!! i tot x10 really might have MT!! then i read the rest of the treads-.- April, sound like a April fool joke to me. damn=/
Those articles were everywhere in april but se then came out and said (in may I think) that the hardware doesn't support it.
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yes there is no perfect news about multitouch but in most of places it is clerly mentioned that harware of X10 does not support multitouch ( said by some sony official ) so final opinion is X10 will not have mutitouch even after the upgrade
Like the title says, the xperia arc is promised to get the Honeycomb
Update, smashing rumours that dual core processors nd other **** is required to run Honeycomb.
Here is the link for more reading.
http://gizbuy.com/2011/01/07/sonys-arc-to-get-honeycomb-update-but-xperia-x10-lineup-to-miss-froyo/
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At the VIP event they also confirmed that 2.4 will be available very soon after Google releases it!
After experiencing with X1 and X2 and then X10 and knowing SE's incomplete support of their products, I would like to assume that ARC will come with 2.3 and die on 2.3 and I hope I stay with this assumption without putting any pressure on myself that why my phone doesn't do this or that
This is what SE has been promising over and over for every generation of their phones and they fail to deliver, don't believe it then go back and read SE history. This is their repetitions in failure for every device they put together.
But this won't stop me from buying the ARC.
The new phones are different. Google brings the OS, Qualcomm does almost all drivers, and SE does Timescape, the launcher, and a few smaller apps. Most of the customizations are just some reskins, and Timescape has no real integration with the rest of Android, making it a lot easier to update without causing problems. Sony Ericsson said yesterday in Brussels that they plan to at least keep updating for 1 year after release.
The X10 was different. It was SE's first Android device, and Timescape and Mediascape were heavily integrated with critical parts of Android. They've learned from their mistakes with the X10, the new ones will do much better!
I wouldn't exactly agree with that.. SE promised that they would upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1 and they did.. and in doing that they realised that they had made it inordinately difficult for themselves to do so.. They say that they learned a valuable lesson from this.. and that the arc (and it's siblings) are built in a more modular fashion, allowing them to add their overlay UI etc without a massive coding exercise. I tend to believe that assertion.
Whether or not we'll get 2.5 (or what ever comes after 2.4).. I don't know.. but Android has matured significantly from 1.6 to 2.3 and future updates are less likely to be as significant (IMHO).. so perhaps not so big a deal anyway.. ??
We will be getting 2.4 (which still is Gingerbread but more optimized), after that 3.1 (Ice Cream) should follow, merging 2.4 and 3.0. As long as we get Ice Cream I'll be happy!
couple of points to the OP though.. That article was written in January.. and 3.0 is for tablets.. The next update for phones is 2.4 (Icecream)
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The next update for phones is 2.4 (Icecream)
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2.4 will still be Gingerbread, and will mainly contain performance improvements for dualcores, but no major new features.
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I wouldn't exactly agree with that.. SE promised that they would upgrade from 1.6 to 2.1 and they did.. and in doing that they realised that they had made it inordinately difficult for themselves to do so.. They say that they learned a valuable lesson from this.. and that the arc (and it's siblings) are built in a more modular fashion, allowing them to add their overlay UI etc without a massive coding exercise. I tend to believe that assertion.
Whether or not we'll get 2.5 (or what ever comes after 2.4).. I don't know.. but Android has matured significantly from 1.6 to 2.3 and future updates are less likely to be as significant (IMHO).. so perhaps not so big a deal anyway.. ??
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tbf the most significant update has yet to come
GPU accelerated UI
Bring me that and I don't think I will need much more
http://www.zenilshroff.com/google-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-mobile-os-features-specs-overview/
Have a read of this article..
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http://www.zenilshroff.com/google-android-2-4-ice-cream-sandwich-mobile-os-features-specs-overview/
Have a read of this article..
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That article has no sources, and similar ones have been posted in january too. Sony Ericsson has already got 2.4 running on the Arc, people tried it, and it's not the Gingerbread-Honeycomb merge. 2.4 is still Gingerbread, and if the next release will not be Gingerbread2, we'll be seeing 3.1 next. There will be no more new codenames in the 2.x family.
Everyday.... day by day...... I get disappointed by XDA member ( not all of them )
can't believe that there are people think that Honeycomb will be released for mobile handsets while Google itself stated it's only Tablet's OS. Yes, many developers have ported the Honeycomb into their HTCs' or Samsungs', but have you really tried it? fonts are un-readable, resolution is not that good and you can't read anything from it. Basically it was ported for testing and to play with for a little while.
2.4 is still Gingerbread as many members before me stated and Sony Ericsson already planning to release it when it's available. Regarding the difference, its main idea was to make dual-core applications run on a single core processor, along with minor changes.
please don't believe everything you read, it's really getting annoying how many come here with rumours just to start a useless thread
Best Regards,
Just thought of sharing this, if you don't like it then do us a favour, don't even look into this. Since I saw this on a couple of sites, I thought of sharing it. Even engadget had mentioned such a thing in early Feb I guess.
Yes I know icecream is dubbed as 2.4 which will contain elements from both gb and honeycomb, scheduled to run on non dual core smartphones. I have also seen some arc's testing the 2.4 os
I didn't know that the post was outdated, never the less lets move on, one should not get annoyed with every single thing. There are millions of things out there in this world to do the same. Might sound rude but shouldn't unless you're soft.
Peace \/
Cheers
AdY
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Everyday.... day by day...... I get disappointed by XDA member ( not all of them )
can't believe that there are people think that Honeycomb will be released for mobile handsets while Google itself stated it's only Tablet's OS. Yes, many developers have ported the Honeycomb into their HTCs' or Samsungs', but have you really tried it? fonts are un-readable, resolution is not that good and you can't read anything from it. Basically it was ported for testing and to play with for a little while.
2.4 is still Gingerbread as many members before me stated and Sony Ericsson already planning to release it when it's available. Regarding the difference, its main idea was to make dual-core applications run on a single core processor, along with minor changes.
please don't believe everything you read, it's really getting annoying how many come here with rumours just to start a useless thread
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Just thought of sharing this, if you don't like it then do us a favour, don't even look into this. Since I saw this on a couple of sites, I thought of sharing it. Even engadget had mentioned such a thing in early Feb I guess.
Yes I know icecream is dubbed as 2.4 which will contain elements from both gb and honeycomb, scheduled to run on non dual core smartphones. I have also seen some arc's testing the 2.4 os
I didn't know that the post was outdated, never the less lets move on, one should not get annoyed with every single thing. There are millions of things out there in this world to do the same. Might sound rude but shouldn't unless you're soft.
Peace \/
Cheers
AdY
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No worries mate, I take criticism with a smile
I would love to stay out of those topics, but seeing misleading information really makes me want to share my opinion... Someone has to correct things here...
You mentioned yourself that the articles are back in January, so why sharing an outdated information?
I didn't know that they were outdated. When I checked it again , I realised the issue.
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No worries mate, I take criticism with a smile
I would love to stay out of those topics, but seeing misleading information really makes me want to share my opinion... Someone has to correct things here...
You mentioned yourself that the articles are back in January, so why sharing an outdated information?
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well, i'm glad that i'll be taking arc, can't wait till 9th april
HTC didn't announce ICS update, despite its brothers getting it.
We assumed it was hardware limitations with the smaller RAM (512mb)
But now HTC have announced the new HTC One V with ICS and Sense 3.6/4.0.
And guess what? It only has 512mb aswell.
So RAM can't be the issue. Maybe CPU power?
Go pester HTC on Twitter/Facebook now for your update!
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HTC didn't announce ICS update, despite its brothers getting it.
We assumed it was hardware limitations with the smaller RAM (512mb)
But now HTC have announced the new HTC One V with ICS and Sense 3.6/4.0.
And guess what? It only has 512mb aswell.
So RAM can't be the issue. Maybe CPU power?
Go pester HTC on Twitter/Facebook now for your update!
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The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
Or in short....$$$$$$$$.
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The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
Or in short....$$$$$$$$.
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True, but the Desire Hd (released at the same time) is getting the update.
And that phine hasn't just had one, or two or three major updates....
It's had FOUR MAJOR OS UPDATES.
that beats Apple with their iPhone 3gs.
It's gone from 2.2 all the way to 4.0 with numerous huge sense upgrades.
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The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
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I think Nospin is right; commitment to the development of Android varies among different manufacturers. Commitment to profit does not. There is limited upside to them providing an upgrade. Chances are, we'll still purchase the next HTC phone when we get the money and/or discounted price with contract from our carriers, despite them choosing not to upgrade our phones. In other words, why provide us with an additional free service, when they're going to get our money in the future anyway. In fact, providing the upgrade might *deter* us from buying their latest and greatest.
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True, but the Desire Hd (released at the same time) is getting the update.
And that phine hasn't just had one, or two or three major updates....
It's had FOUR MAJOR OS UPDATES.
that beats Apple with their iPhone 3gs.
It's gone from 2.2 all the way to 4.0 with numerous huge sense upgrades.
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That's cause the Desire HD IS a flagship device.
But I hope so, we will get custom ICS from HTC ONE V. I think it will be brilliant
I don't think the desire z will get a OTA update either. I think they plan it this way so that we have to upgrade and won't be content on sticking it out with our old devices. Either way the desire z will get ICS from cm9 most likely. It's taken longer then I wanted but I know it's in the works.
Just use Andromadus. I know it's not official, but you can rock it now. Which counts for a lot.
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what my opinion is that HTC released the sense 3 OTA to make people either root, or upgrade.. my guess is that HTC will never release any OTA anymore
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If this was Samsung, then I would agree with the Desire Z getting ICS. However HTC has already given us an unlocked bootloader as well as the source code for the Desire Z. There's no need for HTC to get involved anymore. This is exactly why places like XDA are important to the rest of us who "knows" our devices are still kicking strong because then we can just do the work ourselves. And besides, even if Desire Z does get an ICS update: the majority of us will still prefer Custom ROMs anyways. This way, everybody wins. HTC maintains a healthy reputation with us and we get to save some money.
heh, by "we", I mean the talented devs that still support our devices. I'm personally useless.
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If this was Samsung, then I would agree with the Desire Z getting ICS. However HTC has already given us an unlocked bootloader as well as the source code for the Desire Z. There's no need for HTC to get involved anymore. This is exactly why places like XDA are important to the rest of us who "knows" our devices are still kicking strong because then we can just do the work ourselves. And besides, even if Desire Z does get an ICS update: the majority of us will still prefer Custom ROMs anyways. This way, everybody wins. HTC maintains a healthy reputation with us and we get to save some money.
heh, by "we", I mean the talented devs that still support our devices. I'm personally useless.
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I agree, I think there would be two benefits of having ICS come officially to Desire Z / G2. First would be that that ROM would be a lot easier to modify and tinker with by the dev's then what they are working with currently. The second benefit would be in the form of less people asking for eta's on cm9. I would rather use a custom version of a rom than a stock rom, but the same doesn't go for everybody. I bet a lot of the traffic on xda is people just wanting ICS on their device period.
I can't wait when HTC relase HTC One V I think, we will get ICS with sense 4.0 with out of problems
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I can't wait when HTC relase HTC One V I think, we will get ICS with sense 4.0 with out of problems
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
Here's how you can help with getting a camera source/driver from HTC email them asking for one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425324
Mayb we can get this link in the 1st post?
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
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Its always hard to find out the type of camera is on what phone.. the only thing i could find for the One V camera is that it is also a 5MP camera. (Secretly hoping it has the same sensors as ours )
Anyways to get back on the ICS for DZ. I still would like to have it for this phone only because it will have a rotating launcher..
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Its always hard to find out the type of camera is on what phone.. the only thing i could find for the One V camera is that it is also a 5MP camera. (Secretly hoping it has the same sensors as ours )
Anyways to get back on the ICS for DZ. I still would like to have it for this phone only because it will have a rotating launcher..
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Wasn't HTC saying that they're using some kind of new "imaging chip" for enhancing their photos with their new lineup?
Also, did the Desire Z ever get an update to Sense 3.0?
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Wasn't HTC saying that they're using some kind of new "imaging chip" for enhancing their photos with their new lineup?
Also, did the Desire Z ever get an update to Sense 3.0?
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I dont know about the imaging chip i read something about the picture quality being better but not really looked in it very much xd
And no, the Desire Z never got that update. My quess it that is was to memory hungry so they wont update it. But maybe we will get lucky on this one. You'll never know
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
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ICS is coming to both the Desire HD and Desire S, both of which use the same chipset (including camera chip) as our phone. So the problem should be solved soon (One V probably won't be out much sooner, if at all).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
If some developer port kernel from desire hd then probably we will have full working ICS with sense ui. Port from Desire HD is easy.
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ICS is coming to both the Desire HD and Desire S, both of which use the same chipset (including camera chip) as our phone. So the problem should be solved soon (One V probably won't be out much sooner, if at all).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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Hum, that's good!
Doesn't look good for the Verizon crowd.
http://androidcommunity.com/sony-announces-ice-cream-sandwich-delays-no-ota-updates-either-20120330/
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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I like it. It sounds like they're going to straight-up release it for use with Flashtool. With the work that the developers have done in porting roms to the R800x, chevyowner in particular, it should be a really good development in terms of updates.
please add cdma to this thread title, otherwise a lot of gsm use will get a shock for their life xD
It doesn't really pertain specifically to CDMA. It's a general deal, apparently, that Sony is delaying, and aren't releasing OTAs.
Verizon's Firmware is different from Sony's, so I still believe if Verizon does update your devices that it will be OTA, As of other carriers, I don't know.
The .145 firmware was a UK firmware that supported CDMA variants, which is mostly the Verizon Xperia Play. I believe if Sony could do it then, they can do it again. I'm holding out hope for this one.
I'm patiently awaiting the UK ICS Rom for my r800x.
Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Check this post out. Awesome news ! http://www.xperiablog.net/2012/03/3...to-ics/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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We just sore this. So the beta was a plan to keep us semi happy i guess
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Yeah... but atleast they've told us that if it'll run on 2011 Xperia devices or not so we don't jump in straight and update to Ice Cream Sandwich which then would be a problem for us.
So, I guess all us with a 2011 Xperia model will have to stay on Gingerbread. Well I don't mind as long as everything runs smoothly which it does on Gingerbread.
I am still a unhappy though cause I was looking forward to ICS I waited so long !
I had a feeling it was a bad sign when Verizon offered me a free upgrade..... Glad they chose to grease the squeaky wheel.... Still sucks though....
You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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You know what? I think sony tells us bullsh*t... my friend has Nexus S with OFFICIAL ICS and it's perfectly smooth. This phones specs are similar to ours - 512 MB of RAM and 1GHz CPU. There aren't any problems on it so it means having nicely optimized ICS on our phones is possible but it seems Sony are sh*tting pants now and telling us right before ICS launch that it won't be running smooth because it needs more resources. I think they are too lazy, there were always problems with their company if we talk about upgrades. X10 has got 2.3 for 8 months and it's still full of bugs. I'm sure I'm not the only one who afraids of this upgrade and not the only one who's mad at them (look at the comments on their blog). They promised great update and now they made us thinking is there a sense of upgrading to ICS if it's so slow in their opinion. Shame on you, Sony.
EDIT: Besides - Sony will soon launch Xperia Neo L in China. The phone with THE SAME hardware specs as our phones. So that means its ICS will be slow too? What's the point in releasing the phone with "slow SQL, low ram and heavy CPU use"?
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Agreed. Sony are playing with us. They are very very lazy indeed.
So Peed of right now
I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
If you want a fast phone stick with COLA rom.
trust me.
ICS is like putting lipstick on a pig.
the whole thing reeks of slow /bloatware and "pretty effects"
you know what i say to that? F*** that S***
I dont give a d*** about what it looks like.
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I always knew ICS was a bad operating system and this is proof of it.
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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So, just because Sony can't implement it properly in the Xperia line and they say so in advance, ICS is a bad version?
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lol true. It's got nothing to with ICS but it's all got to do with the Sony Delevopers !
And it's good that they actually highlight these possible issues anyway! I would much rather know this than update blindly and find them later by myself. Then again, what people seem to want is to hear that their device is magical. It sells better indeed.
First thing I'm doing upon getting the official update is to remove Bloat like Music Unlimited ****...
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Wonder what impact this will have on root
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None. We have root now
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Here is the list of phones that can exept 4.1
Will get Android 4.1 Jelly Bean:
Xperia T
Xperia TX
Xperia V
Xperia S
Xperia acro S
Xperia ion
Xperia P
Xperia go
Xperia J
**Xperia T, TX og V gets update to 4.1 in middle of first quarter of 2013
Wont get updated to 4.1:
Xperia U
Miro
Tipo
SOURCE:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/product...rades-jelly-bean-for-2012-xperia-smartphones/
http://www.itavisen.no/904519/er-din-mobil-paa-lista
And you miss the most important thing...
We were glad to provide the Android 4.0.4 upgrade for our 2011 Xperia portfolio across most markets and the majority of models but, after thorough evaluation, we have concluded they will not be upgraded beyond Ice Cream Sandwich.
Beyond Ice Cream Sandwich we would not able to guarantee owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand. We will however, continue to support all these products with firmware maintenance releases.
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And you miss the most important thing...
Quote:
We were glad to provide the Android 4.0.4 upgrade for our 2011 Xperia portfolio across most markets and the majority of models but, after thorough evaluation, we have concluded they will not be upgraded beyond Ice Cream Sandwich.
Beyond Ice Cream Sandwich we would not able to guarantee owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand. We will however, continue to support all these products with firmware maintenance releases.
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Seriously, my phone runs much smoother in JB than on ICS... Thnk you SONY -.-
Seriously Sony's multimillionaire software department can't make a good JB firm for Neo/Arc/S and can do it for Xperia J?
Disappointing but expected news. I'm personally not surprised. It's most likely for marketing. And anyways it's been almost 2 years already since their release. I guess Sony wants everyone to buy their current and future lineup of Xperias.
We should also be thankful that Sony upgraded our phones to ICS. LG isn't even upgrading their 2011 phones as far as I know.
Sony Mobile isn't as big as Samsung or HTC. Cut them some slack.
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And you miss the most important thing...
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Did not miss that. Everybody knows that the 2011 wont get updated.
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So, first you moan because Sony doesn't give out an update.
Then, if an update is released, then you moan even more about all the little problems it has.
They are not your slaves. Give them time to work, you are not the only customers out there. Besides, your phone is not the only one there.
But atleast they should have update arc s to jb isnt 1.4 ghz enough for jb wtf they was saying that they are checking the devices etc.
Fully crap i just bought arc s its still in market and here i am with no jb update
I should have bought s2 instead
I wont buy sony now in future
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But atleast they should have update arc s to jb isnt 1.4 ghz enough for jb wtf they was saying that they are checking the devices etc.
Fully crap i just bought arc s its still in market and here i am with no jb update
I should have bought s2 instead
I wont buy sony now in future
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I think they will get over it
Cheers
I only don't understand why they don't upgrade the arc s... But I think this is the biggest problem with android. Look to samsung, the sgs plus was released almost the same time as the arc s, has similar parts and price and didn't even got ics...
I think the problem is that Sony is lazy to do the JB upgrade. JB requires same requirements as ics the only down side is the 512 mb memory but other phone with the same phone power will still deliver the JB hope they can get back in there word qnd deliver JB to us.
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I hope it to, but i don't think so...
No excuses for Sony really they could provide codes so developers can port JB into older devices unless we launch a huge outrage just like the X10 fiasco.
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Well....this was expected! Not upset because I think Sony has one of the best firmware update services in the market. Just personally realized that it's time to start saving for LG Nexus!
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Beyond Gingerbread we weren't able to give owners of these smartphones the user experience you expect and we demand.
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FTFY, Sony.
So...are there any phones that could actually replace my Pro? :/
Will buy Optimus G.. Etc not xperia T, had enough crappy Sony screens, low performance and bad camera (in some situations) will sell xperia t
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Best way is ..more of us ...to don't buy any sony phone ,because they take this fkkk solution ....not to give us ..the owner of 1.4 GHz ..sony device ..a taste of JB...., that's shame ...
I will sell my device and bye a decent phone....( to have 1GB RAM , front facing camera , enough internal storage .., not like this ..420 MB...., and also a decent battery .) , because I don't want to spend all my money to bye a new phone ..every 5 months ...
This is why I'm getting a Samsung phone next year. Samsung's flagship model from 2011 got JellyBean. and what is more pathetic, JB is incomparably smoother and faster than ICS.
time to change brand!
Well, the last few weeks I've been confused whether my next device will be a Nexus, a Lumia or an Xperia,
now I just need to choose between the first two
(Not that Lumia will surely provide better support, I want to know how good/bad is WP8 through experience, I'll keep the arc S though, still the sexiest phone I've ever had)