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I thought I'd share some hopefully helpful information with you guys after having to have 2 swap outs of my Nexus S after getting it on launch day.
I had done an awful lot of reading prior to getting my Nexus to make sure I was pretty clued up about any potential launch bugs which seem to plague a number of handsets these days.
The first thing I noticed with my first phone was the unusually fast battery drain and long charge times, I could hardly go through daylight hours without my phone needing charge (Battery indicator showing orange or red). The following night I left the phone with 55% charge and went to sleep. When I woke up the phone was off, strange I thought; turns out it had eaten the rest of the battery over night.
The final straw came when I reset the phone to default settings (thinking it was a rogue app causing the drain) and it still ate the battery within a day. At this point I knew something was up, especially as reviewers were commenting that the battery seemed considerably better than a lot of other Android handsets.
I decided to take it back to Best Buy to get a swap out, long story short the sales rep. tested the battery and told me that it was defective. He then said he would swap out just the handset and battery with another unit, great I thought!
My relief was soon disturbed when I realised something wasn't right with the screen on my new handset. Not only was the screen a pee yellow colour (compared with the cool temperature of the original) there was also significant banding within the grey area of the the pull down notification tray. These problems had also been mentioned on the Engadget review and even if they hadn't I'm pretty sure I still would have noticed it straight away regardless.
After another trip back to Best Buy and a reluctant second swap out on their part, I have what seems like a fully working handset with a good battery and decent AMOLED panel.
I don't know what's happening with Samsung's QC or whether they have large tolerances for their panels, but I would have thought that they would have been able to iron a lot of this out having already launched the Galaxy S series.
A slightly long post but I hope this at least saves some of you the hassle I've been through to get a decent handset. This isn't the first time it's happened either, I had problems with my launch day iPhone 4 with the mic not working.
One thing's for sure, I'm going to be far more vigilant when buying my next handset.
also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems
nothing new for samsung QA
Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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brianbrain said:
Unfortunately, having come from the epic, this seems par for the course for sammy..I'd high hopes Google would counter this, but I guess not. My first and only ns is wonderful, though I ordered online and it seems the majority of complaints are coming from those that ordered at the store..coincidence?
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Sadly, Google != Apple, they don't produce their own hardware. Depending on Samsung, with their known ****ty QA is a risk I'm sure they weighed.
I ordered my NS online and have none off theses issues! Actually my battery life is AWESOME. 16 hours straight between charging. I love it!
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robstunner said:
I had to return an iPhone 4 a few months ago because the screen was literally fused on crooked to the display. They all have their negatives and bad batches.
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HHmm, If a few are defective, then they ALL must be. Quick, we must warn the others!
I'm not following you? I was implying that all phones have bad batches. No need to get butt hurt if that offended you?
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3G supported band
Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Guys,
Some thing out of the topic, but i need to ask is that is there any sort of 3G band limitation in US version of NS? My friend in Canada told me that currently all devices are coming only with AWS support for 3G which is supported by limited number of Cellular Operators.
Any ideas?
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Correct, it wont work on AT&T/Bell/Telus 3G (someone correct me if im wrong about the Canadian carriers)
Having the same battery problem, please help
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
SmartphonesTV said:
I am also having the same battery problem. It seems like the battery drains 1% per minute. I need to keep it charging all the time or it will drain in about 90 minutes. And it takes 8-9 hours to charge it to 100%.
Problem is I can't just take it back to Best Buy since I live overseas and a friend brought it to me from the US. So now what do I do?
1. Is it the battery or the phone? If it is the battery then I can just replace the battery, but I can't find anywhere online to buy the same battery? Any ideas?
2. If it is the phone, is there anything I can do w/o having to send it back to the USA?
Thanks so much for your help!
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http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Standard-Battery-Moment-M900/dp/B0026LQL40/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top this battery works if you need to buy a new one
Calm down OP. You are just unlucky I suppose. Not only Samsung, I had to switch my ex droid2 three times. First, the microphone doesn't work. Second one, the power button then the third time physical keyboard was not responsive. Just my .02
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Its called mass production people each headset will have a defect!!! Live with it or dont buy simple
Yep battery life on my phone seems crap compared to my iPhone 4 but its a good phone never the less.
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As of now, the nexus s i definitely eating up more battery than my n1. but i usually give it a week before i can say fore sure. are there extended batteries out for the NS?
Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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Thanks but this seller won't ship outside the USA. I found a bunch of similar ones on eBay, but they are all 1440 milliamps and not 1500 milliamps.
Not sure if the one on Amazon is 1440 or 1500.
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if you check the accessories thread someone says its a 1500
Darrien13 said:
also test ur buttons because they can be loose and the back button sometimes has problems
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Thx for that - thought I was going mad! Vol+ and Back seem dodgy - don't work every time. I'll be taking it back to the shop on Tuesday...
I dunno, must just be me but I completely love this phone.
I'm going to be soon getting either the 4g FFC or the revision 2 FFC. Have not completely decided yet. ( I already have v1 of the FFC and I'm fine with how it acts... I don't often take pictures in the dark, ha.)
With the v1 FFC and bionix 1.3.1 with overstock. The phone is very responsive.. I do get a slight lag in between downloading and installing stages of getting apps, but that's far from the end of the world for me.
Besides that this phone is honestly perfect! I don't know what more I could want from a phone, haha.
I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
I love my vibrant had it since release....
Waiting for the S2, other than that this phone has been GREAT !!
I love my phone. It really is wonderful.
samsung can eat a ____.
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This is definitely a great phone with tons of possibilities.
A solid gps and a flash for the camera
I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I have the exact same setup you do, and the exact same experience. Aside from the GPS hiccups, this is quite possibly the best phone I've used. SAMoled is simply amazing and will keep me from switching phones when all the dual-cores come out. Plus, I know it's a small difference, but 4.3" just seems too big. My buddy has a droid x, and that thing is a monster!
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i love does big things bro but i love my vibrant
I want mine to do my chores
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A solid gps and a flash for the camera
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The GPS deal , well... that's hit or miss it seems. Mine on the other hand works perfect and has worked fine since I got it right after release.
Flash... well ya knew it didn't have flash when you went to get it, so... yeah.
I love this phone. It's tough , even though it feels light and wimpy. It's super fast, the screen is beautiful and there's so many ROMs and mods to customize it the way you like it that I'm never bored with it.
Had a galaxy s 4G, it was a disappointment but I miss the ffc!
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I just wish the GPS would lock in a little quicker and that the battery was a little better.
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I never have gps problems, lag, or any of the usual things people complain about. I do not feel it's cheaply made, and it's a perfect size in an otterbox.
The only areas of improvement I can see are an FFC (which can be added), 4G capabilities, camera flash, and tweaking it more. A phone can never be too fast or too good on battery life.
The biggest thing that needs improving is the speed at getting updates and source from Samsung.
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I never understood the cheap feeling people got from it either, and I had a hd2 that is supposed to be the best build quality in a phone, my vibrant may not be that solid, but hell, its solid....
It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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It's plastic and yea it feels cheap. The HD2 is in another dimension. It does feel cheap, but that's nothing a Body Glove or Otterbox case can't fix trivially.
The battery and GPS is a bigger issue, though... Both of those are terrible. If I take my Vibrant off the charger and never use it, 30% of the time the phone will drain to nothing in 4 hours. I have no clue how it's doing it, why it's doing it. The battery is good (I've tried a brand new Stock Samsung OEM battery replacement) and it still happens. It has the most Volatile Battery Life I've ever experienced in a Mobile Phone, or any mobile device, ever...
A couple months ago I went to Houston for a couple days and forgot to take my Wall Charger... I ended up having to plug my phone into the Samsung HDTV in the room becasue the battery was dying all over the place. I had to stand there tethered to a television just to use my phone. Wanted to talk? Go to the TV. Check your Twitter/Email? You know where to go...
Even on the car charger, the phone would barely charge. I was basically < 50% charge 90% of the time I was there, and even had to turn my phone off for like 3-4 hours when I was getting stuff done to make sure it didn't die on me.
That is something I had never experienced using my Windows Mobile (6.5) devices or Aria, and the HD7 doesn't do this. The Blackberry Bold I tried out for a couple weeks could go 2-3 days with extremely heavy usage on one charge, and charged fast as ****... Even on a Car Charger while being used.
The GPS in the Vibrant was constantly putting me on the wrong road, or on the service road when I was on the other side of the Interstate. At intersections, the GPS would bug out and it would take it upwards of 1-2 minutes to straighten itself out.
Back to the battery. I think the cell radio is killing it. When the phone is on WiFi, it can work about 18-24 hours before it you have to turn it off, because it's not using the cell radio for anything. So, I think a lot of people who say their battery is so good are probably on WiFi most of the time, and likely don't make that many phone calls.
As far as updates are concerned, KA6 was a hail mary and I think Samsung would like to not have this phone even be mentioned in headlines, since those same articles will just remind potential buyers of their other phones just how terrible their Android support/updating actually is. They want to move on. They even bothered to miff up the Software on their WP7 devices. If Samsung touches any software, they will make sure they find a way to miff it up.
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One quick remark on what you said regarding Cell drainage vs. Wifi, that's just not true. At least in my case it isn't.
Today for example I took my phone off the charger about 8 a.m and by the time I walked out of uni 8 hours later I had 78% left. All this while making about a total of 70 minutes of calls not to mention a couple of texts.
Now when I reached home I turned on my wifi and started doing my net business, that got me to 15% in less than 4 hours. Without doing any calls/texts in the process.
What more could I want in a phone?
How about no interface or response lag? I'm running Bionix V 1.3.1 with Voodoo lagfix enable, and there's still some lag in the response.
I'd also like the GPS to work every time with accuracy at least matching my 2+ year old G1.
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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This made me lol so a thanks hit...
Also 3g uses more battery than being on wifi to the person talking about wifi draining their ****....
I have excellent battery life...
xtone said:
you guys are not thinking this through.....
i want my phone to have a vagina.
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haha I wanted to say this but I might get flame. lol
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http://wccftech.com/nexus-4g-receive-235-update/
anyone ?
It was postponed. It hasn't been confirmed to be 2.3.5 that I know of, other than that picture floating around. But, still is an upgrade to build GJR90, if I am not mistaken. There hasn't been any other official information on when the update will go live.
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hell, i see 3.2 is out and formatted for smaller screens....maybe for OUR screen!!
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Formatted for smaller screens or formatted to use apps made for smaller screens?
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Formatted for smaller screens or formatted to use apps made for smaller screens?
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2nd option, 3.2 enhances tablet app quality.
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Formatted for smaller screens or formatted to use apps made for smaller screens?
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Both. But smaller screens = resolutions that are still much higher than WVGA or even newer QHD displays.
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It looks like we're getting the update on 7/25/2011.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/22/sprint-readies-nexus-s-4g-update-with-improved-wimax-performance/
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It looks like we're getting the update on 7/25/2011.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/22/sprint-readies-nexus-s-4g-update-with-improved-wimax-performance/
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I got to say the video looked very real and impressive. Only think was at the end of the video he said it would be out July 11th. Lets hope that was a mixup.
Sprint readies 2.3.5!
http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/22/sprint-readies-nexus-s-4g-update-with-improved-wimax-performance/
I am still wondering if the 3G is being improved, as that seems to be the source of my battery drain...
re "What about some WiMAX performance improvements? You should be getting all that plus WiFi connectivity and speakerphone quality tweaks, along with TTY support "
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/22/sprint-readies-nexus-s-4g-update-with-improved-wimax-performance/
I am still wondering if the 3G is being improved, as that seems to be the source of my battery drain...
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Is it? What % of the battery is occupied by Cell Standby on your device? On mine it's typically 5% or less, with Display taking 50-70%.
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Is it? What % of the battery is occupied by Cell Standby on your device? On mine it's typically 5% or less, with Display taking 50-70%.
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I am not sure now, as I sold it the other day for $300.
But I do know the signal was weak (compared to my Evo)! Nexus would be -96 dBm sitting right next to an Evo which was getting -77 dBm. And battery was seriously draining - I am concluding that the radio is the issue. I have had two Nexus S handsets and each drained battery like crazy. I was not using 4G as the battery was already so bad, so this update may do phones like mine no good in terms of improved 3g battery life...
Any news on 2.3.5 for non-D720 Nexus S?
So I just saw on Engadget that the 2.3.5/GRJ90 update is rolling out to the Nexus S 4G on Monday (July 25). Has there been any word on a 2.3.5 update for I9020T/A or I9023 phones? I can't imagine it would be far off, but I don't seem to recall hearing anything specific.
Waiting patiently for news on this for us T-Mobile users, praying that it will fix this issue:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google+Mobile/thread?tid=433c283cb9c0ba87&hl=en
You never once looked at the page that shows you precisely what is draining the battery, and are just assuming it's something essentially random because "hey the radio is bad"?
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You never once looked at the page that shows you precisely what is draining the battery, and are just assuming it's something essentially random because "hey the radio is bad"?
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I looked many times. But that page you are referring to can be misleading. For example, some days the screen usage shows 75%, some days 30%. Same with the radio, etc.
But as I said, I know for a fact that signal was weak, and this is KNOWN to be a major cause of battery drain, no?
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I looked many times. But that page you are referring to can be misleading. For example, some days the screen usage shows 75%, some days 30%. Same with the radio, etc.
But as I said, I know for a fact that signal was weak, and this is KNOWN to be a major cause of battery drain, no?
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That's your assumption, and now something that you will probably never know.
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That's an interesting issue. Haven't heard about that one before. I'm running stock 2.3/GRH55 with the JK8 radio and I've never had that problem. Bugs get fixed, new ones get introduced. The way of the world. LOL
Since the announcement only says 4G and WIFI are being worked on, I assume the 3G is not. But I guess we will see when people start updating and reporting back.
The miserable battery life was issue #1 with me, and thus the sale of both of my Sprint Nexus phones.
Maybe this update fixes the battery life in some other way...time will tell.
p.s. why are you guys so defensive about people having issues with the NS 4g battery life? Battery life issues are well documented, as are the radio issues...put two and two together and you have people hoping that the new radio software helps with battery life. Is this so hard to understand?
I hope I have that many bars!
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I looked many times. But that page you are referring to can be misleading. For example, some days the screen usage shows 75%, some days 30%. Same with the radio, etc.
But as I said, I know for a fact that signal was weak, and this is KNOWN to be a major cause of battery drain, no?
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A very poor signal can certainly increase battery usage, but you're just stabbing wildly in the dark at how bad the signal was and whether it incurred any significant battery penalty. Chances are your signal issues weren't that great.
Been emailing Motorola UK regarding the charger issues with my Nexus 6, and having dealing with for past month I got the following from them today.
I am sorry to say that at the current moment in time it has been brought to our attention that there is a potential issue with the Nexus 6. We are working hard to verify and, if need be, rectify this issue and deliver this solution to our customers.
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So looks like finally they know there are possible problems
This would be a lot more helpful if you told us what the potential issue was...
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This would be a lot more helpful if you told us what the potential issue was...
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QFT...lol
Lol I wonder what the issue is....
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Lol I wonder what the issue is....
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Lack of compensation?
Link to the post where he explains his problems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/charging-query-stock-5-0-1-t3008717
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I have noticed that when the N6 is on charge, once it reaches 100% and left on charger, the battery starts discharging approx 1% every hour.
I only noticed this when my alarm was going off and when looked at battery usage it was saying 94% but nothing using it - installed GSAM and noticed that once fully charged it starts discharging even while on charge. If I remove charger and re-insert it starts charging again as normal.
Has anyone else noticed this issue. I have contacted Motorola to see what they say, but they are none the wiser and just think it may be a feature of the device/charger but not sure and said to test with another charger.
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That was all I got back from Motorola after telling them I wanted someone to take ownership of problem.
I'm not sure of what they are referencing to, it could be linked to the issue I have logged with them or something else. @kf2m nothing to do with compensation, its to do with purchasing a product that is defective and under UK SOGA trying to get it sorted, but reseller has not done much about it so have been speaking to Motorola.
All phones do this. When sitting on a charger after hitting 100% they stop taking a charge until the battery drains to some arbitrary level - usually 95% or even 90% so it isn't sitting at 100% and accepting current.
There's no need to splinter this discussion into 2 threads. That's just a canned response from Motorola anyway.
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Has anyone else noticed the battery draining incredibly fast while on a call? My battery went from 81% to 67% after a 15 minute call. The battery doesn't go down anywhere near that pace during any other function I've used it for so far. In fact, if I don't make or receive any calls, it lasts all day. I checked battery usage and it was only at 2%, which is definitely not right and there was nothing else showing up under usage that could have been the culprit. I've had the phone for 1 1/2 weeks now and it is definitely the only time it happens.
Does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
What network?
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What network?
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Sprint
Check how strong your coverage is. Sometimes weak signal will drain your battery considerably faster.
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Check how strong your coverage is. Sometimes weak signal will drain your battery considerably faster.
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Someone else mentioned that as well, but I had full bars even it happened. What's even more weird... When I only have 2 bars, the battery drops less while on a call. It's the strangest thing I've come across on the phone. I love everything else about it and I'm going to keep it regardless. I appreciate your input! Hopefully someone else has this experience and can find a cause. I thought I was very knowledgeable on Android and had seen everything since I've been on it since the original G1 (which I still have lol), but it's a new one for me. I also don't get the complaints about the camera...I was in the backyard taking pictures today, just test it out, and it's definitely better than my S7. Anyway, thanks again for taking the time to respond and help with ideas and if you think of another one, let me know!