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So I've seen rumors of the Transformer 2 coming out in foreseeable future with a Tegra 3 processor and all the bells and whistles. Has Acer made any indication that it will have an answer back device? I almost feel like I've gotten on to the Tablet Train too late if they are about to do a generation shift with the processors and such.
Yes it will.
Yeah, it will be available via an OTA end of August
Edit - so long as you have not deleted your telephony app
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MJ-12 said:
Yeah, it will be available via an OTA end of August
Edit - so long as you have not deleted your telephony app
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Unless they put Star Trek teleporter technology in this thing I don't think they can OTA update the processor.
I do think they'll come out with a Tegra 3 tablet, I can think of no reason why they wouldn't. Considering it'd be more similar of a development environment than switching to OMAP or something. I also think that when it comes to touting your "platform" Nvidia sounds better than TI or Qualcomm. It's a more known brand, at least for high performance parts.
Perhaps the better questions would be, has Acer confirmed an Tegra 3 tablet? Is there any inkling that they will release anything close to the time that Asus does?
What your tab don't have Teleport!!!
You should try the new vogon rom c fleet v1.02.119.006 update 61b alpha...
I was thinking about buying the Samsung galaxy S2 with the Dual core but im think I'm gonna wait for the rumoured galaxy S3 that may be released end of this year!
Quad Core Kal -EL : Your 1080p just got taken to school! 1440p
I love it! I wanna see higher definiton and how it looks!
Has the current Gen of 10" Honeycomb tablets even been out for a year yet? It seems crazy that the next generation is already coming out. Won't that create marketplace confusion?
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Has the current Gen of 10" Honeycomb tablets even been out for a year yet? It seems crazy that the next generation is already coming out. Won't that create marketplace confusion?
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Hell, Nvidia already had Tegra 3 on roadmaps for 2012 before the first real Tegra 2 devices were out, if I wasn't such a must have guy I'd have waited. As it is I'll sell the Iconia or pass it to the g/f and get me a Tegra 3/Ice Cream Sandwich device when they hit. That's provided reviews don't show some other platform stomping Tegra 3, which is doubtful.
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I was thinking about buying the Samsung galaxy S2 with the Dual core but im think I'm gonna wait for the rumoured galaxy S3 that may be released end of this year!
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I love it! I wanna see higher definiton and how it looks!
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There will be no Tegra 3 devices on the market this year. Q1/Q2 2012 at the earliest.
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There will be no Tegra 3 devices on the market this year. Q1/Q2 2012 at the earliest.
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I thought the Transformer 2 was slated for this year?
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I thought the Transformer 2 was slated for this year?
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It was announced "before CES," which is in January, 2012.
Tegra 3 seems inevitable for android tabs its like asking if the newest high end PC's will have the latest Intel cpus. When they will be released is another question. Since most tegra2 tabs were only released a few months ago I can't see anything replacing them for at least another year.
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I would not say it's a dead certainty by any means, considering that the founder of Acer has expressed pessimism about the future of tablets. I'd post a link, but as a new user, i'm not allowed to do so - article title is "Ultrabooks and tablet PCs are short-term fads, says Acer founder" on digitimes.
For sure there will be Tegra 3 based tablets, but maybe not by Acer. I get the impression that the A500 might not be a huge commercial success for Acer.
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There will be no Tegra 3 devices on the market this year. Q1/Q2 2012 at the earliest.
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Latest reports are targeting october for the first market launches
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Latest reports are targeting october for the first market launches
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To launch in October would mean the tabs would have to be in the functional prototype stage NOW. Even if Nvidia do manage to release the hardware this year (latest reports peg a CPU release for Q3 2011), it's REALLY unlikely anything will make it to market for several months afterwards.
Archos has a tablet coming out using a 1.5ghz TI chip. They already have the promo videos out. It looks to have improved performance. Seems to me that the 1ghz Tegra2 chip just isn't quite powerful enough for 3.1. I run stock with overclock kernel and keep my CPU set to 1.2ghz to get the kind of performance I need. I had a Viewsonic gTablet that I tried to run at 1.2ghz and it couldn't take the overclocking and would crash frequently. So far my A500 has handled the overclocking in all modes, including video play, Netflix, etc. Very pleased with that.
@jyams There are actually some benchmarks of systems using those chips, they're pretty decent performance wise.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4511/archos-80-and-101-g9-tablets-the-fastest-tablets-in-the-world
Part way down that page is a small "preview" of two phones, one using the lower end TI chip, OMAP 4430 I think. It's compared to a phone using Tegra 2. The 1.5GHz part I think is 4460 however, so should have a bit more performance. It's only a couple of benchmarks, so take it with a grain of salt.
Another thing to consider, how is the dev community for other platforms? I've only owned one non-Tegra device and there was none for it.
http://briefmobile.com/cyanogenmod-9-construction-under-way
Can't wait to see how well the atrix handles it!
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I can't wait!
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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BUT is it for the Atrix? I havnt seen a offical Cynogen Mod for the ATrix yet
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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The Atrix is officially supported, in nightly builds. Stable build hasn't been accomplished yet.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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OSNPA, how is the boiled denim business treating you? also I wanna ride in your car and listen to Raise Your Weapon, I know it's really old but I still HAVE to hear it everyday lol.
Sorry to change the subject, well, really I'm not there are like 10 of these threads.
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haha...the car hasn't made much progress, we spent a lot of time getting our house on the market and are looking to buy, so all of my free time has been for 'family and home stuff' Someday...
edgeicator said:
http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Starting with IceCreamSandwich, the Android Open-Source Project can't be used from pure source code only, and requires additional hardware-related proprietary libraries to run, specifically for hardware graphics acceleration.
Official binaries for Nexus S, Nexus S 4G, Galaxy Nexus, and PandaBoard can be downloaded from Google's Nexus driver page, which add access to additional hardware capabilities with non-Open-Source code.
There are no official binaries for Nexus One, ADP2 or ADP1.
So, unless there's an official ICS release for the Atrix, it looks like we may be missing out on the default hardware acceleration. Thank god my upgrade comes up in Feb so I can get off this device and onto a Nexus device.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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That sucks. Definitely going for the Galaxy Nexus when I can as well.
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thats just another way of saying they dont support gfx drivers in the stock AOSP for other devices - nvidia still provides those for the tegra2, so it should sitll be possible to get hw acceleration on the atrix
its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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its a shame that so many are forced to ditch perfectly capable hardware, simply because of software limitations. that is my initial reaction to the news in this thread.
Additionally, considering the new system for hardware acceleration, how could google release binaries for anything except their AOSP devices? Binaries for Tegra, or any other chipset manufacturer, will have to be made in conjunction with the manufacturer.
Not exactly good news for the Tegra; a very capable, very abandoned, hardware platform. Really didn't want to declare this device dead before its time as I've followed the Tegra since its earliest concepts. If the tegra doesn't get ICS i don't see how it the Kal El will even make a splash.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
Tegra will get ICS from the LG 2X and we'll probably get a port from there. That's the least of the worries.
Many additional drivers will also be needed such as GPS, FP, possibly Bluetooth and wifi...etc
Plus, no official release will, if true, means many bugs and hiccups. That's what I've been saying all along here in the ICS jerking threads.
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Motorola announced ICS is coming to the Xoom which is a tegra device
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Xoom uses a different Tegra 2 SoC than the Atrix. Our best chances come from G2X, Photon, and Droid 2X. Xoom uses Tegra 250 T20 whereas smartphones use Tegra 250 AP20H. Even then, it's going to be a hack-up job since they aren't the same devices. It will definitely not run as well as if we had an official ICS release.
EDIT: The reason why is that the driver + proprietary libraries needed for hardware acceleration are built for a specific kernel. We don't share kernels with those devices regardless of how similar the devices are. They'd have to compare the 2 different kernels (a 2.3.4 vs a 4.0.1 mind you) and try and merge in the differences necessary to get hardware acceleration working. All in all, it will be the Atrix running on a hacked up gingerbread kernel and drivers trying to run ICS.
Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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Actually, they should be able to hack together and compile a ICS kernel with a mix of GB and ICS drivers. I've done it before for GB on the HTC aria.
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I did say that. But the problem is that it just that, a hacked together kernel and gpu driver. radio, wifi, bluetooth, etc. will still be on GB drivers. It would never run as well as if we had native ICS drivers and kernel.
How bout we just wait and find out?
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How bout we just wait and find out?
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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exactly, that's what we need.
optimism. it might look foolish to some but I really wish no one tries to undermine the atrix 4g community or any other phone community from trying to get ics.
i understand the truth due to the reasoning and it might look like a long shot but it doesn't hurt to stay optimistic.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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I could care less at this point. I'm getting a SGN the second my upgrade comes up in February. CM9 would only be at nightlies/alphas at that point and there's no chance that the Atrix would have ICS by february to help CM9 for the Atrix along.
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You must know all this since you know the future huh?
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There you have it folks, sit tight and wait for Nvidia. Once we have all the required drivers, we are set I hope this settles everyone down.
Please let me know if this thread is in the wrong place, but i think it's best in General (also makes a nice change from MIUI begging )
NVIDIA has been working with Google and Motorola to provide the open source community with the required drivers and other binary code to build full Android OS images for the Tegra 2 powered "Motorola Xoom". We expect Google to make those components available as part of the Android Open Source Project soon.
In addition, NVIDIA is working on a full release of Ice Cream Sandwich (ICS) for our Tegra 2 Dual Core and Tegra 3 Quad Core reference devices to be made available early next year. This release package will comprise of binary code, drivers developed on our reference platforms and any patches necessary to ensure stability & performance with ICS. We hope the open source community can leverage this release for their work on all Tegra devices.
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That's great news!
Thanks for sharing
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That's great news!
Thanks for sharing
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Couldn't believe it at first! I checked here to confirm it was true but there was no thread, so i decided to share the good news! I was worrying that our device was being forgotten about, but i guess the real fun starts early 2012!
Hooray!
Awesome news! I'm gonna have this phone for at least another 18 months, so this is very encouraging!
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Bumping this so people will stop worrying/complaining about Nvidia and Motorola.
Also, IF Moto release ICS with blur and without webtop, would you go for it? I personally would, but i know some of you people love webtop.
Tegra kernal here:
http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git
btw another proof:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
Does this mean full cm7 and MIUI support? Or is it mainly for ICS?
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Tegra kernal here:
http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-2.6.git
btw another proof:
https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/KycR8ZjeUiS
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Where do you see any proof? Newest kernel is for 3.2. Btw we need binaries and drivers.
Great news now let's hope they do it in a timely manner
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Bumping this so people will stop worrying/complaining about Nvidia and Motorola.
Also, IF Moto release ICS with blur and without webtop, would you go for it? I personally would, but i know some of you people love webtop.
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I would as long as it has landscape hdmi mirror on the lapdock.
Yay for hardware acceleration and true cm9!
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Yay for hardware acceleration and true cm9!
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+10000000000000
With landscape mirroring
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I may be wrong but aren't the drivers and libraries for tegra2 ics already available in AOSP. tegra2 is tegra2 there shouldnt be much difference between xoom and atrix same hardware bigger screen. But I could be off base so dont flame me LOL
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I may be wrong but aren't the drivers and libraries for tegra2 ics already available in AOSP. tegra2 is tegra2 there shouldnt be much difference between xoom and atrix same hardware bigger screen. But I could be off base so dont flame me LOL
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I think you are partially right, but as you said, the drivers are for the Xoom and every device has unique drivers. It would probably be too difficult and time consuming to use/hack the Xoom's drivers for the Atrix and everything will not be the same as having the actual Atrix files.
Hmm... I figured using xoom.Drivers would make it easy. What about the g2x? Its a phone which may eliminate hassles, with nearly the same specs, save for it not being moto.
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http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources
Is this something we were waiting for? Or we need the source code?
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According to this https://plus.google.com/115049428938715274412/posts/9nb8sajTX18 (see comments after 23 january) nvidia should also publish some "reference code" in early 2012 which would be helpful
Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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Give me a break!!!
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Has anyone recieved any news on the Tegra 2 and ICS?
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What the hell, man? You made me think there was real news!
It's official! CyanogenMod 9 is coming to the eeePad Transformer!
CM 9 Progress Update
We’ve been hard at work on CM9 since Google released Android 4.0 (Ice Cream Sandwich) into the wild last month, and things are slowly starting to come together. Google did a great job with ICS and added some really awesome features which in some cases replace or deprecate functionality that we had in CM7, so we are reevaluating all of our customizations. A number of devices are already up and running with CM9, and the focus is currently on getting as many devices ready as we can. The first devices (besides the Nexus S, which you can already get from Koush’s section on ROM Manager) that we’ll have ready will mostly likely be devices based on OMAP4, MSM8660/7X30, and Exynos. We also have some Tegra2 tablets in the pipeline such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1 and Asus Transformer. Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One. I don’t want to make any promises at this time, but that is the plan. And sorry Droid1 owners, we’re dropping support for you. Time to upgrade
There are a number of challenges that we are up against. Google has made some pretty major changes to the Android framework that break compatibility with older proprietary camera and graphics drivers in order to achieve some pretty insane performance, but I am confident that the team will be able to overcome these issues like we have in the past.
For those of you who like to build CM from source yourself, you probably know that the spin-up time when starting a CM7 build is absurdly long due to the high number of devices in our repository. Koush and Arcee have put together a solution to this problem that adds new devices on-demand to your local repository, saving on both bandwidth and the long startup time. Some other great enhancements are coming too, like a completely overhauled music app, a new file manager, and a new launcher based on stock 4.0.
If you have a Nexus S, you can check out the code and build for yourself today. More devices are on the way, and I’ll send out these status updates as we make more progress
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...I think I just came in my pants
Well.... Thats just f'ing awesome
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I'm sorry Roach/Prime... you were great but the wife is callin' me home.
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very good news.
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very good news.
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I am so happy as soon as it is released I will donate to these guys!
Expected Release date ??
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Expected Release date ??
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First rule of CM: do not ask for an ETA.
I hope they don't wait until it works on all devices to release this. They are nearly finished it, i would use it now.
see and wait.
Hopefully it takes not to long.
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I'm sorry Roach/Prime... you were great but the wife is callin' me home.
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Exactly what I was thinking. I love Prime and the work roach has been doing, but when I can get CM on the tablet, I will go running.
what's the advantage of CM vs Prime rom ?
Its Vanilla ICS. Most stable best battery life and best performance.
You have to try it to actually realize the differance. Which is like day and night
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Well, if Roach and Gnufabio can't get any Transformer love after CM9 hits, they should know the Acer A100 forum would hail them as gods...
I did not expect we would get an official, so much as one of our brillant devs would probably do it unofficially lol.
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Expect a build of cm9 from Roach with his own tweaks and improvements
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I did not expect we would get an official, so much as one of our brillant devs would probably do it unofficially lol.
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It shouldn't be that shocking, the tablet sold *really* well. Xoom, GTab 10.1, and TF were basically the honeycomb tablets.
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Maybe we will see a tablet version of MIUI for us after CM9 hits.
I mean. The nook color got MIUI after it recieved official CM7 support. I dont see why we wouldnt. I cant wait
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the guys from Xiaomi (company behind MIUI roms) allready working on MIUI build on ICS so once they release first ICS MIUI it should not take long till we will see our first MIUI rom for TF
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Maybe we will see a tablet version of MIUI for us after CM9 hits.
I mean. The nook color got MIUI after it recieved official CM7 support. I dont see why we wouldnt. I cant wait
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what's the advantage of CM vs Prime rom ?
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It'll be interesting to see what the difference is. CM is usually better than stock firmware sure so being as lean and cut-back as possible while still adding in extremely useful features.
Asus have done a great job of keeping their firmware bloat-free though, so it may not be too different, performance-wise. The biggest advantage will probably come from extended support. Asus probably won't upgrade the TF101 past 4.0 - having CM pretty much ensures that it will get every version of Android in the future so long as somebody is interested in getting it running.
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It'll be interesting to see what the difference is. CM is usually better than stock firmware sure so being as lean and cut-back as possible while still adding in extremely useful features.
Asus have done a great job of keeping their firmware bloat-free though, so it may not be too different, performance-wise. The biggest advantage will probably come from extended support. Asus probably won't upgrade the TF101 past 4.0 - having CM pretty much ensures that it will get every version of Android in the future so long as somebody is interested in getting it running.
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A lot of the "bloat" Asus has added is incredibly useful. Polaris Office is really nice, and unavailable if Asus didn't include it. Same with Supernote, which is pretty good for free. Splashtop, again, expensive software included for free.
The **** I hate is them bundling things like Netflix... it's freely available on the market, and only available in select regions, why on earth would you bundle that?
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Can the Xoom after all these years handle the new Ubuntu tablet OS? I hope so because i just return my Galaxy note 10.1. I guess i need to order a nexus 10.1
I hope it will.
It looks like an awesome OS and I hope some of the amazing devs we have will be able to port it.
Ubuntu is open source and uses Linux kernel as Andorid does, so it should be doable.
Xoom's specs should be good enough to handle it, but until we don't put our hands on the OS we can't tell anything more specific.
However Nexus 7, that is one of the test devices for Ubuntu Touch has the same amount of RAM (1 Gb) as our tablet, so I am positive about it.
Xoom being non neon might be a problem. But that same issue is what cut off official support for 4.2+ versions of android, and I'm running a very functional 4.2.2 rom right now (EOS4).
it's already Work in progress....
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
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it's already work in progress....
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/touch/devices
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we love howard chan!
I'd love to see Ubuntu on my Xoom!
It shouldn't be to hard since ubuntu touch os uses cyanogenmod as a base which we already have
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cool i would like to have it on my tablet xD
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it would be sooo f***ing great to have it on my xoom ! hoping for a soon availability
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it would be sooo f***ing great to have it on my xoom ! hoping for a soon availability
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https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
It will be available as soon as you port it...
I started working on it a little last night but I'm getting a new computer next week so I decided to just wait. I don't want to spend the time to set everything up and have to do it again in another 5 days... Maybe someone else will start working on it in the meantime but honestly it still needs a lot of work. Right now it's worth flashing for about 5-10 minutes to satisfy ones curiosity and that's about it.
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xyboard 10.1 lte
Since there is least to nil development for xyboard 10.1 lte, will the xoom or xoom 2 ubuntu be used for xyboard, or can some developer port it for xyboard 10.1 i am aware this request is way to early but better early than late or never.
Oh I can't wait I know one of our genius devs will make it happen
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I believe pulled the motorola xoom to ubuntu developing
I setup the environment, and got the Xoom specific part to build but no boot joy. Im no dev but ill start trying to track down issues on my own. I also noticed the xoom is no longer listed on the devices page as a WIP.
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I setup the environment, and got the Xoom specific part to build but no boot joy. Im no dev but ill start trying to track down issues on my own. I also noticed the xoom is no longer listed on the devices page as a WIP.
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I was able to get it running on my Xoom, see this thread.
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