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Hi everybody,
as new user I cant post on the right post. So I ask you directly
I would like to test the new 2.3 with the Wolf's TW GB (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192988) but I saw some people who had problems with battery autonomy.
I run, right now, the 2.1.A.0.435 and I'm really satisfied about the battery. My X10 is on for 40 hours and I got 74% battery. Yes, I don't use it very much but it's enough for me.
So I wanna know how the battery usage is with the Wolf's rom and if I can test it without being disappointed.
P.S.: sorry for my ugly english
I cant speak for all users but my battery drains very fast. I dont know why, but might its because I often use wifi and my screen brightness is set to maximum.
lifty95 said:
I cant speak for all users but my battery drains very fast. I dont know why, but might its because I often use wifi and my screen brightness is set to maximum.
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Doooooooh, using wifi and screen brightness to the fullest drain battery. on my side i can tell you that wolf's rom with the hotfix is perfect. I can go through the day easy with screen brightness to half, no wifi, im on 3g all time, listening 2 hours a day some music while playing Asphalt 5 on my way to work. So yes battery is ok as long as you don't use to much wifi and bluetooth.
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Doooooooh, using wifi and screen brightness to the fullest drain battery. on my side i can tell you that wolf's rom with the hotfix is perfect. I can go through the day easy with screen brightness to half, no wifi, im on 3g all time, listening 2 hours a day some music while playing Asphalt 5 on my way to work. So yes battery is ok as long as you don't use to much wifi and bluetooth.
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from what ive learned in the year or so ive been using android phones is that everyones battery experience is different. I find 3g drains my battery and wifi doesnt. All you can do is try it for yourself.
Wolf's TW battery is suburb for me ;-) i moderately use my wifi, Bluetooth, brightness, etc.
After 17hrs of slightly heavy using its 61%
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May I ask a question, with all due respect to everybody's work?
Why would you use a modified stock ROM,
be it WB's or anyone elses, since we have root, which means that you can tweak the stock ROM to your needs?
I mean, it's one thing to have CM ROMs or MiUI ROMs or vanilla Android,
but a modified stock ROM is still stock people!
I much prefer to make tweaks on my own, remove what I don't need, etc.
Just my 2 cents.
Again, I mean no disrespect, WB has been doing an elaborate job on his ROMs.
my battery lasts twice with 2.33, (i was before on WB froyo), with normal use 16 hours 50% at the end of my long day.
so battery life is awesome, i think is becouse is not as smooth in some games and apps.
My_Immortal said:
May I ask a question, with all due respect to everybody's work?
Why would you use a modified stock ROM,
be it WB's or anyone elses, since we have root, which means that you can tweak the stock ROM to your needs?
I mean, it's one thing to have CM ROMs or MiUI ROMs or vanilla Android,
but a modified stock ROM is still stock people!
I much prefer to make tweaks on my own, remove what I don't need, etc.
Just my 2 cents.
Again, I mean no disrespect, WB has been doing an elaborate job on his ROMs.
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not everyone can invest the time to learn the tweaks, and WB is based on CM isnt it? anyways i am loving the battery on my stock GB, will probably root it to get titanium to work and remove some of the bloatware, Ive used WB 2.2 but the battery really sucked, tried alot of BBs but didnt manage to fix the drain
You should really try-out this ROM. It has speed tweaks/battery tweaks ported from another devices. This is the only ROM for the x10 with these tweaks.
I am using WB's rom with FIX005. The battery not drain very fast.
At least I can use it for whole day.
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not everyone can invest the time to learn the tweaks, and WB is based on CM isnt it?
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+1 to that and no, wb's 2.3 is based on stock 2.3.
shehzad said:
not everyone can invest the time to learn the tweaks, and WB is based on CM isnt it? anyways i am loving the battery on my stock GB, will probably root it to get titanium to work and remove some of the bloatware, Ive used WB 2.2 but the battery really sucked, tried alot of BBs but didnt manage to fix the drain
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Yeah, but learning how to mod your phone is half the fun!!
Anyway, it's good that there are options and I know WB makes really
fast ROMs, his 2.2 was very snappy and stable.
However, what I've been trying to point out is that WB's 2.3.3
is not CM, it's stock SE ROM, tweaked.
KeizBaby said:
You should really try-out this ROM. It has speed tweaks/battery tweaks ported from another devices. This is the only ROM for the x10 with these tweaks.
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I would try WB's ROM, but I'd like to keep my RAM management more balanced and flexible, because I need a lot of apps to run in the background and not being killed.
Anyway, again, no offence to anybody.
As always, Wolfbreak, great job!
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Yeah, but learning how to mod your phone is half the fun!!
Anyway, it's good that there are options and I know WB makes really
fast ROMs, his 2.2 was very snappy and stable.
However, what I've been trying to point out is that WB's 2.3.3
is not CM, it's stock SE ROM, tweaked.
I would try WB's ROM, but I'd like to keep my RAM management more balanced and flexible, because I need a lot of apps to run in the background and not being killed.
Anyway, again, no offence to anybody.
As always, Wolfbreak, great job!
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I can tell you that there are there alot of apps in the background running that are not being killed. Much more then on Froyo/Eclair. So what stops you from trying it out?!
The most important ones I got running are:
- WhatsApp
- MSN Talk Pro
- Google Talk
- Facebook
- Seesmic
- LiveProfile
- KikMessenger
- Skype
- Viber
- Data Monitor
- DSP Manager
- Equalizer
- SwiftKey
- Widgetsoid
- Beautifull Widgets
And much more...
And none of them have ever been killed, they all worked fine! Battery life is also great! They are always running in the background. (If in your case the apps are being killed to fast, there is a way to tune it down to what you want!!)
My_Immortal said:
Yeah, but learning how to mod your phone is half the fun!!
Anyway, it's good that there are options and I know WB makes really
fast ROMs, his 2.2 was very snappy and stable.
However, what I've been trying to point out is that WB's 2.3.3
is not CM, it's stock SE ROM, tweaked.
I would try WB's ROM, but I'd like to keep my RAM management more balanced and flexible, because I need a lot of apps to run in the background and not being killed.
Anyway, again, no offence to anybody.
As always, Wolfbreak, great job!
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Can you give me tweaking lessons please? I only know how to use autokiller optimiser, but don't know any other apps..
on 2.2 tw 009 the phone keep working for almost 4 days of normal usage, now on 2.3 tw 005 it acts weird, sometimes it looses 20% in 1hour, but average it keeps for 2 days
Hey in hotfix5 there is GoogleTalk1.3 which support videochat. Does this work on the x10?
Edit: Doesnt work, I always get a fc when i klick on the camera-symbol
I will test that, right now
Thanks all
3 hours unplugged, and little to no use, and my phone is down 40%
So my phone is using way more power than it had under 2.1 I'm going to guess that it has to do with the baseband, and localization for me.
I switched from Wolf's 2.2 / 009 to 2.3 / 005 on my business phone. 3 hrs music per day (that's the time I need from home to office) many phone calls, gaming, testing, playing. I've to charge once a day. Think that is not to bad.
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3 hours unplugged, and little to no use, and my phone is down 40%
So my phone is using way more power than it had under 2.1 I'm going to guess that it has to do with the baseband, and localization for me.
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In battery use, under Settings, what has the higher percentage?
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I love to play around with new ROMs and kernels and usually don't mind a few hiccups and occasional poor performance. But soon I will have a one week period where I need my phone to be as solid as possible. What's the best ROM/kernel for this?
I currently use CM7 as my daily and have tested CM9. CM7 is great except battery life is pretty bad, with both the CM7 and Samurai kernels. I lose about 1% of battery for every 90 secs I'm actively doing something - even on Wifi and with a strong 3g signal. A 15minute drive with GPS (and screen off) easily takes 10% off my battery. This is unacceptable for my upcoming event.
I would like a ROM/kernel combo that can go for a minimum of 12 hours with moderate use. No voice, but frequent texting, email, twitter checks, some photos, and calling up pdfs. Battery life and stability are the top concerns, but GPS is important as well. CM7 gives me the best GPS results I've ever had with my Epic, but like I said, the battery performance is awful.
Any ideas? Focusing on all the cutting edge stuff means I've lost touch with the latest improvements on the more basic, but more solid ROMs.
Thanks!
get a larger battery or pick up a spare oe battery as a backup.
this is one of those questions you just dont ask cause it all depends on how you use your phone and all that i know you say what you mostly use it for but it still doesnt help if you are looking for a stable rom as far as mtd goes they are all good and as far as kernels go they are all good but the kicker is just finding what works best for you feel free to play around with them flash one per day and figure out which one works best for you cause honestly we cant tell you cause what would extend our battery life might not work for you because you use your phone differently than we do but trust me all of our devs are gonna throw out something that doesnt work all the warnings are there and all the help and how to's for each rom and kernel are in their respective threads sorry i couldnt give you a better answer bud
happy flashing
Oh and I forgot to mention since you have been running cm7 make sure you don't flash a bml rom not sure if u were aware of that or not so only flash and MTD rom and kernel
CleanGB. No OC/UV, and buy an epic touch 1800mah battery. For me I get best responsiveness vs battery life if I run 100/800mhz with governer set to performance. You'd have to REALLY try to kill that battery in a day with this setup.
Edit: you use gps in the car without plugging it in? No wonder your battery commits suicide lol. If I use gps and stream music through bluetooth it still discharges on the charger.
There is no such thing. Even pure stock has errors on some people's phones. You need to try one or if it is that important than stock is your best bet. EVERY Phone is different. Read through some of the ROMs...95% of the people have no problems and 5% do. It is the nature of the beast. No one can tell which is best for YOUR phone. And if CM7 is giving you terrible battery life, there already is something wrong with your phone setup. You probably need to start from scratch and restore no apps or data and download apps fresh from the market.
I've always had good luck with CleanGB roms & kernals by toadlife.
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I've always had good luck with CleanGB roms & kernals by toadlife.
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But not everybody does. There is no best. I can easily say marcusantrom with shadow kernel is best on touchwiz and CM7 with the kernel it comes with is the best in general. I won't say this because different people have different phones and preferences... if you really want the best rom/kernel/theme, make it yourself.
In Soviet Epic forum, clockworkmod root you!
Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
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Angelo
I don't know if my battery life is worse on ICS than on CM or stock 2.3. Because I don't have any logs of battery life. Maybe I will do some tests in next week, just for curious.
So... I'm getting 30mA - 34mA drain on idle on Andromadus v13 with default kernel. It is lower than yours. I'm using latest radio now (.19).
After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be indicative of the final product.
I don't have any hard numbers, but based on my moderate usage, (8am to 11pm) I go from 100% to about 40%. Fairly good IMO when compared to sense roms (that i'm used to) but not as good when compared to AOSP GB or MIUI roms..
Hmm I found my battery doing suprisingly well compared to aosp gb, now that I'm using ics its lasting longer than ever.
It probably has to do with better app/process management.
That's my experience..
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Well, this might sound strange to say but i'm actually getting the best battery life i've ever had out of ICS so far with Andromadus v13/Jibwich 1.3 on my phone. I seem to manage to get really long charges of at least 48 hours. Maybe i'm not using my phone as much as i was with GB? I'm not quite sure if that's the case or not, but i'm consistently getting longer lasting charges than ever before with GB.
Thing is though that ICS ROMs DO seem to drain the battery more while the phone is actively being used (in comparison to AOSP GB ROMs), this seems to be the case for me, as well as some other people that i've seen.
There were a few strange versions of Andromadus and Jibwich though which seemed to cause severe battery drain for me. Fortunately, that hasn't been the case with any of the latest versions.
All of that said, i still don't think anything compares to the battery life on G2 Slim (Gingerbread AOSP ROM), that ROM has ridiculously good battery life. With that one, i'd use my phone a fair bit (couple hours of tethering, gaming, lots of texting and calls) and it would still last for at least 44 hours or so.
In the end though, there are still some GB ROMs that have much worse battery life than ICS for me. For example, all CM7 variants that i've tried has always had this frustrating radio related battery drain, then some Sense ROMs seem to drain the battery a bit more than AOSP ROMs too. In response to the OP, i never really got amazing battery life with MIUI, so ICS has been a much better experience so far in that regard.
What i do know for sure though is that battery life with ICS is MUCH better than the stock gingerbread OTA update that our phones got.
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
asantaga said:
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
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Here was my (personal) record breaking charge on Andromadus v13 https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/12263406/1/screenies?h=c9ef42
You can see part of my configuration there (radio and CPU speeds).
On top of what's already there, i use supercharger RC6.9 with option 6 and nitro-lag-nullifier.
here are my usage patterns for good battery life:
-I generally stick to 2g networks as i don't do much web browsing while i'm out but when i do, i just switch to 3g.
-I also don't regularly use any task killers but if i detect any choppyness i kill app using Advanced Task Killer.
-I don't use auto-brightness and instead i just use the notification power widget.
-I do lots and lots of texting, some calls here and there, i often use wifi hotspot and i play 2d games a little bit at times, so i'm generally a light-moderate user.
-I also "debloat" as much as possible by getting rid of any system apps that i don't use.
On a random note, right now, i'm using Jibwich 1.3 and it is so great, battery life seems the same as andromadus v13 but this ROM is actually much more smooth and fluid on the home screen.
I hope this helps a bit, give me a thanks if you found this useful ;D
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
asantaga said:
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
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Go to settings --> wireless and networks --> mobile networks
Now see if you have "use only 2g networks" checked. If you do, that'd be why you're always connecting to 2g networks.
As a battery saving tip, it's best to always check that option when you don't need mobile data (like when you're at home and wifi is available).
In addition to that, if that option is NOT checked, then your phone will connect to 3g networks where applicable, you have to check if your carrier actually uses 3g networks on your plan.
Also that app seems fine, but i wouldn't use the "use 2g when sleep" option because that could cause problems with reception between waking and sleeping because it'll be erratically switching between basebands all the time.
asantaga said:
Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
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Angelo
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It looks to me that yes. Tried 3 ICS inluding JIBWich and CM9 based and battery life was reduced to me about 1/3 maybe 1/4. looks like that. Hope some improovment will come in near future.
I'm running Andromadus v13 and it seems to be only a bit worse than the latest CM7 nightly. However, this is only my subjective opinion, it could be that I'm using my phone more with ICS
I also have the .19 radio and the tweaks associated with v13.
Well from what i've seen, ICS has very steep and sudden drops in the battery stats graph when the phone is being used. This is in contrast to many gingberbread ROMs which just have a sloping negative curve on the battery stats graph. This seems to indicate that ICS uses more battery when the phone is being actively used.
I'll post pics after this current charge is over to show a comparison of ICS battery life with Andro v13 and GB battery with Virtuous G-lite 2.0.1.
I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
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I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
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I also configure all new rom's from begining and on Affinity 2 - my battery in averange usage die after ~16h but on ISC os about ~13h, I don't know why.
My battery after full charge get 4.212 V , tried clear battery stats bin no effect
My avg runtime on one charge on CM7 w/o oc, with ilwt or pershoot kernel is 60hours (yes! 3 "work days") or atleast 2 days with 50-70 min calls and 25-35 SMS
Turning data and/or wifi when needed makes phone battery least looooonger...
Now testing Andromadus Audacity b1, charged 7.5h ago (4207mV), i will post when empty (or near ~3600-3650)
Also remember that we don't have the proper kernel source for our phone. There are some tweaks that can't really be made yet, and probably a bunch of wasted cpu time where errors and stuff get worked through.
GB battery life was worse than Froyo at the same stage of development. It'll even out better when we have the official kernel source for the DHD, I think.
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So most ICS based roms have roughly the same battery life?
I'm current on the audacity beta, getting about 20 hours with no charge with moderate use. Gingerbread i could go about a day and acouple more hours.
I'm a bit bitter that I can only use 3G or higher on Bell with my DZ...that means if I want better battery life I need to ditch mobile data altogether. Boo.
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Better battery life
All,
I was just about to install "Elitemod", which claims to be tuned to bits wrt battery life, and I noticed AudicityBeta1 was released.. so i thought Id try it out.. and
And yes I think its much better!.. this morning I used it a bit, made a dozen phonecalls, sync'd email and for the first time the "voicecalls" are less than the screen.
(see attachment)
Im wondering if the recently released qualcomm drivers made a difference..
At this rate it will last ~40hrs... probably less but as long as it lasts the day Im happy
Anyone else want to confirm my findings?
I have tried texasice, medroid, and BCM all with really poor battery life. With minimal use, I was getting 4-5 hours with minimal use. I tried multiple wipes and calibrated the battery after every flash with no avail. After looking at the battery info I found most of my drain was from music, which was never a problem with CM7.
However, I decided maybe it wasn't ICS that was the issue but the music app itself. (I used both stock and CM music). I decided to try other music players, including winamp, poweramp, and doubletwist. Doubletwist seemed to have the best battery life.
Using the stock and CM players, my battery was draining at 13-15% per hour of playing music, but using double twist it was down to only about 10%. It's a small improvement but since I use my phone as my primary mp3 player, it made a huge difference for me.
If anyone else is having battery problems with the music app, please try doubletwist to confirm this. I want to make sure its not just a coincidence.
If battery life is a concern for you as like me i would avoid ICS and stick with gingerbread or play with your cpu settings trying to change min frequency and try different govenors like smartass.
The ICS roms with hwa enabled will always suck the battery life as its using the gpu. Double twist prob doesnt use much cpu power for the eq
Try MIUI, CM7 or im having alot of luck with runny rom v6.
I think im going to skip ICS all together as my battery the way i use it is dead in 5 hrs
I think you misunderstood my post. I am not complaining about the battery. Battery life is not a concern for me anymore. I made this thread to ask others having trouble with the music app killing battery to try using doubletwist and confirming or debunking my results. I'm just offering a suggestion based on my experience.
Like previously stated, if you use your N1 as a daily driver, especially with music (like me), then get off ICS. ICS is cool to have but absolutely worthless if you plan on using your phone in the real world. Simple.
Once again, I have been using my n1 running ICS as a daily driver, and I have been using it for music. With little to no problems. The battery life is not an issue seeing that right now its very similar to the battery life i had running CM7. The N1 never had spectacular battery life to being with, so i was already adjusted to managing the battery to make it last as long as possible.
For me, the N1 with ICS (I'm using BCM) is fine as a daily driver.
i would try doubletwist for you but im not having that terrible battery youre describing on texasic ics. mine lasts around 13 hours when listening to music with poweramp or subsonic cached tracks.
Thanks for the reply. I guess any app works better than the stock app for battery.
I find deleting dsp helps
and ICS is fine for daily use, I've had no problems with BCM
Hi guys,
I'm proud user of galaxy s5 and I dont want to switch to another phone. I have a problem with battery performance. I already bought new battery and calibrated it. I also made some free space on internal storage. Now on power saving mode it lasts almost 16 hours when i don't use any apps. When I start to use apps like messenger or 9gag it drops to 6 hours.
I mostly use phone to browse some news and play small games. I don't need huge performance for these games. I want to focus on battery performance. Currently I'm running Phoenix ROM v15.
So finally here is my question. What experiences with ROM's you have? Which you are using and how is your battery performance on it? Is there good custom ROM for me or should I go back to stock ROM?
Thanks!
BeNeQ said:
Hi guys,
I'm proud user of galaxy s5 and I dont want to switch to another phone. I have a problem with battery performance. I already bought new battery and calibrated it. I also made some free space on internal storage. Now on power saving mode it lasts almost 16 hours when i don't use any apps. When I start to use apps like messenger or 9gag it drops to 6 hours.
I mostly use phone to browse some news and play small games. I don't need huge performance for these games. I want to focus on battery performance. Currently I'm running Phoenix ROM v15.
So finally here is my question. What experiences with ROM's you have? Which you are using and how is your battery performance on it? Is there good custom ROM for me or should I go back to stock ROM?
Thanks!
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I suggest ViperOS.