HTC Kills Desire HD Ice Cream Sandwich Update Plans? - Desire HD General

It’s been nearly two years since HTC first announced the Desire HD, making it a proper dinosaur in the smartphone world. Despite its age, the manufacturer had been planning to give the smartphone a fresh new start with an Ice Cream Sandwich update. At least, that was the plan, but now it seems that HTC may have reversed course, and the Desire HD won’t be seeing an official ICS release, after all.
Back in May, we saw a list of which HTC models were due their ICS updates, and when; the Desire HD fell in the July-August range. We’d assume that was still the case, were it not for Canadian carrier Telus updating its own list of future software releases, noting that the Desire HD’s Ice Cream Sandwich release is now canceled. According to the carrier, “HTC has [canceled] the HTC Desire HD ICS upgrade due to poor device performance during testing.”
That’s a little surprising, because even with just a single-core 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone’s 768MB of RAM sounds sufficient for ICS operation, even if it might be a little pokey in spots. Apparently HTC just felt that the performance issues were too great to ignore; maybe Sense simply got in the way too much.
We haven’t heard any update from HTC itself on the Desire HD’s prospects, but if this really is the case in Canada, we can’t imagine things will be different elsewhere.
Source: Telus (PDF)
Via: MobileSyrup

Are you kidding me? If you really had to post a thread about this, you could have posted it in general. Not in the development section.
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First of all, wrong section.
Second of all, you'll notice that their source is actually from an XDA thread, this one. (And seeing that the linked page is the one that contains my post I guess I'm the source )
However, an XDA user contacted HTC on their Facebook page (link to post) and got the following answer:
Tom - volunteer helper said:
HTC are not cancelling their upgrade to ICS for the Desire HD as far as we know. If Telus have done this, it's unilateral on their part.
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That's mentioned in the thread linked above, and that thread also contains an email reply that a different user received after emailing HTC's support and the email said that the update is still happening.
My guess is that HTC were hoping to get the upgrade ready by now, they got issues so they postponed the release, and some kind of miscommunication happened between them and Telus.
Either way, we're still in the first quarter of the time range HTC gave for the upgrade. So unless HTC makes an official statement that there won't be a release, then there's no reason to despair.

i wanted to share this with you all
so ppl can talk about it
we are here to inform and help each other
if this is not the proper place im sorry
i hope this is BS
we all want to see something more in this device

elmanortega said:
It’s been nearly two years since HTC first announced the Desire HD, making it a proper dinosaur in the smartphone world. Despite its age, the manufacturer had been planning to give the smartphone a fresh new start with an Ice Cream Sandwich update. At least, that was the plan, but now it seems that HTC may have reversed course, and the Desire HD won’t be seeing an official ICS release, after all.
Back in May, we saw a list of which HTC models were due their ICS updates, and when; the Desire HD fell in the July-August range. We’d assume that was still the case, were it not for Canadian carrier Telus updating its own list of future software releases, noting that the Desire HD’s Ice Cream Sandwich release is now canceled. According to the carrier, “HTC has [canceled] the HTC Desire HD ICS upgrade due to poor device performance during testing.”
That’s a little surprising, because even with just a single-core 1GHz Snapdragon, the phone’s 768MB of RAM sounds sufficient for ICS operation, even if it might be a little pokey in spots. Apparently HTC just felt that the performance issues were too great to ignore; maybe Sense simply got in the way too much.
We haven’t heard any update from HTC itself on the Desire HD’s prospects, but if this really is the case in Canada, we can’t imagine things will be different elsewhere.
Source: Telus (PDF)
Via: MobileSyrup
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Its not being cancel check this link http://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/software-update-weekly-wrap-04072012/

very nice thanks for the link

toysoldierq said:
Its not being cancel check this link http://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/software-update-weekly-wrap-04072012/
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You should quote the 11072012.
http://blog.vodafone.com.au/blog/software-update-weekly-wrap-11072012/
Who knows the one of 18072012?

Also today, Telus launched the One X. Hmmm.
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Sorry to be slightly off topic, but HTC never mentioned the Inspire 4G to get Ice Cream Sandwich, despite it being the AT&T version of the Desire HD.
Do you think the Inspire will get ICS?
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gagdude said:
Sorry to be slightly off topic, but HTC never mentioned the Inspire 4G to get Ice Cream Sandwich, despite it being the AT&T version of the Desire HD.
Do you think the Inspire will get ICS?
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HTC, unfortunately, has no control over the devices chosen to get an upgrade. HTC may make software that is for a device, but the carrier may say no. Sadly, ATT has deemed the Inspire to be End-Of-Line, and will receive no future updates. GB was the last, and final update.

if the new Desire C can run ICS and new Sense on a measly 600Mhz processor, the desire HD certainly can too
Android 4 Life

Desire HD will get ICS, if the Incredible S with the exact same specs is getting it too, then it would be trivial for HTC to do the same for the DHD.

HTC_Phone said:
HTC, unfortunately, has no control over the devices chosen to get an upgrade. HTC may make software that is for a device, but the carrier may say no. Sadly, ATT has deemed the Inspire to be End-Of-Line, and will receive no future updates. GB was the last, and final update.
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Well I can understand HTC Inspire will don't get ICS, but what's app with Desire HD?
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one I do not believe Telus will not upgrade it. If they do not, I will be organizing a petition against them plus they will be getting some nasty phone calls. Plus I have a neighbour that works for Telus (but does not work in mobile) but I will ask him for help with this also.
There is no reason for the Telus Desire HD not to get it, it is not at the end of life, so there should be no reason. I think someone at Telus posted this because they know we are all waiting for it
Also shouldn't this be in general, and not development
Edit: I can not even see the phone on Telus site anymore (does this mean end of life)

Some interesting info
here

Useless ,pointless ,jumping the gun thread ,should be closed
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atrako1973 said:
Useless ,pointless ,jumping the gun thread ,should be closed
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^^-Couldn't agree more
Idiots, root your damned phone and unbrand it; then you'll get official ICS!
Sent from my Desire HD using Swype beta for Android!

Settler down drunk guy in the corner. Official rom = better cooked roms, working camera etc.
GuyInTheCorner said:
^^-Couldn't agree more
Idiots, root your damned phone and unbrand it; then you'll get official ICS!
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whistlerGreg said:
Settler down drunk guy in the corner. Official rom = better cooked roms, working camera etc.
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Yeah, kinda raging at people who're getting all pissy about it. Look on the official site and you'll see it says that by the end of August we'll have ICS w/ Sense
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Is there maybe a chance that we get Jelly Bean immediately instead of ICS?
or other question, if vodafone got the rom from HTC already so vodafone can customize it, shouldnt there be the original HTC rom already be available?

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IceCream Sandwich... Is it coming to Desire HD ?

Hi All,
With news humming around that IceCream Sandwich will be out soon ( October Maybe ) Do you think that we will see official update from HTC to Desire HD or they will continue ignoring Desire HD owners and we will go for custom ROM's from developers ??
Images for IceCream Sandwich are already leaked out...
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak1.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak2.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak3.jpg
http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/9274/ics_leak4.jpg
I don't think that we will get 2.4 officially, but I know that the sensation will get it 100%, and the great devs will bring it to us! that's my point of view.
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Offical update? Unlikely, especially if the DHD does not meet the hardware requirements.
or they will continue ignoring Desire HD owners
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I'm curious. How did HTC ignore DHD owners? We have the latest updates, after all.
Don't get how the desire hd doesn't have the right specs, if its better than the Nexus S. Unless its the dedicated gpu that it needs.
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junta_mpb said:
I'm curious. How did HTC ignore DHD owners? We have the latest updates, after all.
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Official Sense 3.0 Update , I don't know how HTC claims that Desire HD doesn't fit with requirements to run Sense 3.0 while XDA developers brings Full Functional Sense 3.0 to Desire HD in thier ROM's !!!!
Most rumors says that Ice-cream doesn't need hardware changes and it will fit in old devices and comparing Desire HD to Nexus S i think Desire HD is better in Ram and almost equal processor performance !!!!!
Good point about Sense 3.0.
Anyways, I hope there will be support, but it might be too much to ask that we will get any the day ICS comes out. We may be waiting for for some time.
i dont think so................they have already ignored us in updating to sense 3..........................most probably.....officially we wont get it.........
but i am damn sure that XDA will find a way..............
In their official statement i've read at endgadget, "...ice cream sandwich is expected to be backward compatible, universal upgrade that will standardize the Android platform." I forgot where the links are.
8penned from my blazing fast DHD
Keep in mind that Sense 3.0 is HTC's UI on top of Android Gingerbread OS. The new Sense 3.0 devices have more or less the same Gingerbread beneath.
Even if we think Sense 3.0 works okay in ports on the DHD it might not meet HTC's "quality standards" regarding smoothness and stability for example, on a phone that hasn't got the hardware it was meant for. This I think is the reason why we haven't got a Sense 3.0 (yet). Another reason could be that new devices need something special to make people upgrade their old phones and not just update them. HTC might just be holding back the update until they've sold enough new phones.
I'm not saying that I'm sure we'll get Ice Cream but there's a difference in releasing a whole new OS instead of just a UI. A new OS brings much more important and necessary changes (eg security fixes and new features) than a UI. AFAIK Ice Cream will be designed to work even on phones that aren't cutting edge.
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I don't think that it will, officially anyway.
The DHD went from Froyo to Gingerbread, where as i think the Sensation will go from Gingerbread to IceCream Sandwich.
sromer said:
I don't think that it will, officially anyway.
The DHD went from Froyo to Gingerbread, where as i think the Sensation will go from Gingerbread to IceCream Sandwich.
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I agree that. More than a 2 official updates of Android ver. on device that it`s not branded by google (Nexus) it`s not for hope.. but there will be many cust. roms based on Icecream for sure
but i think there wont be any ARHD rom based on ice cream sandwich........
and that makes me sad ...........
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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This is the problem with Android devices and what gives iPhone more popularity in some markets that Apple support for their devices
3Gs is more than 2 years old and still get support with new iOs till now so this is a good point for it but with Android it's always up to developers community
Icecream Sandwich meant to all devices and tablets so i think that all devices that meet minimum requirements should get it cuz this is the first Android version that will be compatible with both Tablets and Mobiles also with support for new languages like Arabic as example and have better enhancements in it's core so i think that we should get it
kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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sony ericson-->nokia 5110--->nokia 3210--->nokia 3350-->nokia 6600-->nokia 6630--->nokia n70--->O2 xda mini II--->iphone 2g-->HTC legend--->HTC Desire HD...............
i know one more fone after DHD wont be that tough for ya..............
I agree also supposed to be able to work on all 2.2 and up
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if they arent releasing officially.........
.i want the world to be end by december 2011.....
I think the last update for our dhd is 2.3.3 thats the final and major update some other phone like samsung tab still getting 2.3.3 at the moment so i think this is our last update... Thats why it is open source and its up to developer to make run to our dhd...
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How about the Desire that went from 2.1 to 2.2 to 2.3?
So maybe if we're lucky!
I am honestly not too concerned. As others have stated ports will most probably arrive after the release. And I would honestly rather use a ROM cooked up by one of the talented devs here than the official HTC crew. So far their results have underwhelmed me.
They do however make quality phones that feel good to hold in your hand, and that is what I buy them for. The rest I fix myself. =P
kuklux said:
If you want icecream sandwich version buy latest phone... Market strategy
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Also this. It's a shame, a real shame. But I suppose if they did not do it this way and kept people interested somehow, they would stop selling phones. I do find it silly though that with the crazy specifications on new phones that a phone like the DHD which I consider a decent phone will be left in the dirt a lot sooner than I had imagined.

Why Desire Z should get ICS

HTC didn't announce ICS update, despite its brothers getting it.
We assumed it was hardware limitations with the smaller RAM (512mb)
But now HTC have announced the new HTC One V with ICS and Sense 3.6/4.0.
And guess what? It only has 512mb aswell.
So RAM can't be the issue. Maybe CPU power?
Go pester HTC on Twitter/Facebook now for your update!
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olyloh6696 said:
HTC didn't announce ICS update, despite its brothers getting it.
We assumed it was hardware limitations with the smaller RAM (512mb)
But now HTC have announced the new HTC One V with ICS and Sense 3.6/4.0.
And guess what? It only has 512mb aswell.
So RAM can't be the issue. Maybe CPU power?
Go pester HTC on Twitter/Facebook now for your update!
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The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
Or in short....$$$$$$$$.
Nospin said:
The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
Or in short....$$$$$$$$.
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True, but the Desire Hd (released at the same time) is getting the update.
And that phine hasn't just had one, or two or three major updates....
It's had FOUR MAJOR OS UPDATES.
that beats Apple with their iPhone 3gs.
It's gone from 2.2 all the way to 4.0 with numerous huge sense upgrades.
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Nospin said:
The issue is that HTC has A LOT of phones. The Desire Z has already received a major Android update. It is not a flagship phone, nor a big seller.
Or in short....$$$$$$$$.
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I think Nospin is right; commitment to the development of Android varies among different manufacturers. Commitment to profit does not. There is limited upside to them providing an upgrade. Chances are, we'll still purchase the next HTC phone when we get the money and/or discounted price with contract from our carriers, despite them choosing not to upgrade our phones. In other words, why provide us with an additional free service, when they're going to get our money in the future anyway. In fact, providing the upgrade might *deter* us from buying their latest and greatest.
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True, but the Desire Hd (released at the same time) is getting the update.
And that phine hasn't just had one, or two or three major updates....
It's had FOUR MAJOR OS UPDATES.
that beats Apple with their iPhone 3gs.
It's gone from 2.2 all the way to 4.0 with numerous huge sense upgrades.
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That's cause the Desire HD IS a flagship device.
But I hope so, we will get custom ICS from HTC ONE V. I think it will be brilliant
I don't think the desire z will get a OTA update either. I think they plan it this way so that we have to upgrade and won't be content on sticking it out with our old devices. Either way the desire z will get ICS from cm9 most likely. It's taken longer then I wanted but I know it's in the works.
Just use Andromadus. I know it's not official, but you can rock it now. Which counts for a lot.
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what my opinion is that HTC released the sense 3 OTA to make people either root, or upgrade.. my guess is that HTC will never release any OTA anymore
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If this was Samsung, then I would agree with the Desire Z getting ICS. However HTC has already given us an unlocked bootloader as well as the source code for the Desire Z. There's no need for HTC to get involved anymore. This is exactly why places like XDA are important to the rest of us who "knows" our devices are still kicking strong because then we can just do the work ourselves. And besides, even if Desire Z does get an ICS update: the majority of us will still prefer Custom ROMs anyways. This way, everybody wins. HTC maintains a healthy reputation with us and we get to save some money.
heh, by "we", I mean the talented devs that still support our devices. I'm personally useless.
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If this was Samsung, then I would agree with the Desire Z getting ICS. However HTC has already given us an unlocked bootloader as well as the source code for the Desire Z. There's no need for HTC to get involved anymore. This is exactly why places like XDA are important to the rest of us who "knows" our devices are still kicking strong because then we can just do the work ourselves. And besides, even if Desire Z does get an ICS update: the majority of us will still prefer Custom ROMs anyways. This way, everybody wins. HTC maintains a healthy reputation with us and we get to save some money.
heh, by "we", I mean the talented devs that still support our devices. I'm personally useless.
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I agree, I think there would be two benefits of having ICS come officially to Desire Z / G2. First would be that that ROM would be a lot easier to modify and tinker with by the dev's then what they are working with currently. The second benefit would be in the form of less people asking for eta's on cm9. I would rather use a custom version of a rom than a stock rom, but the same doesn't go for everybody. I bet a lot of the traffic on xda is people just wanting ICS on their device period.
I can't wait when HTC relase HTC One V I think, we will get ICS with sense 4.0 with out of problems
Youleck said:
I can't wait when HTC relase HTC One V I think, we will get ICS with sense 4.0 with out of problems
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
Here's how you can help with getting a camera source/driver from HTC email them asking for one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1425324
Mayb we can get this link in the 1st post?
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
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Its always hard to find out the type of camera is on what phone.. the only thing i could find for the One V camera is that it is also a 5MP camera. (Secretly hoping it has the same sensors as ours )
Anyways to get back on the ICS for DZ. I still would like to have it for this phone only because it will have a rotating launcher..
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johrie said:
Its always hard to find out the type of camera is on what phone.. the only thing i could find for the One V camera is that it is also a 5MP camera. (Secretly hoping it has the same sensors as ours )
Anyways to get back on the ICS for DZ. I still would like to have it for this phone only because it will have a rotating launcher..
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Wasn't HTC saying that they're using some kind of new "imaging chip" for enhancing their photos with their new lineup?
Also, did the Desire Z ever get an update to Sense 3.0?
magic_android said:
Wasn't HTC saying that they're using some kind of new "imaging chip" for enhancing their photos with their new lineup?
Also, did the Desire Z ever get an update to Sense 3.0?
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I dont know about the imaging chip i read something about the picture quality being better but not really looked in it very much xd
And no, the Desire Z never got that update. My quess it that is was to memory hungry so they wont update it. But maybe we will get lucky on this one. You'll never know
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But the camera driver for ICS issue remains... This is the "problem".
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ICS is coming to both the Desire HD and Desire S, both of which use the same chipset (including camera chip) as our phone. So the problem should be solved soon (One V probably won't be out much sooner, if at all).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
If some developer port kernel from desire hd then probably we will have full working ICS with sense ui. Port from Desire HD is easy.
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ICS is coming to both the Desire HD and Desire S, both of which use the same chipset (including camera chip) as our phone. So the problem should be solved soon (One V probably won't be out much sooner, if at all).
Sent from my Desire Z running CM7.
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Hum, that's good!

Petition HTC release an ICS update for the Desire Z

It was confirmed today that HTC will update the Desire HD to ICS.
I think this is unfair, the Desire Z was released at the same time and cost the same. I have and still maintain that HTC should of never pushed a sense 3.x update to our devices, But with the announcement of the HTC One V and the leaked RUU's i can confirm that we now have a version of sense that runs very well on our devices.
So I am asking you to take 1 minute to sign the petition to get HTC to release an update for what seems to be a device they have forgotten about.
Please post this link on your blogs, twitter, facebook and anywhere else that you can get it some coverage.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ceo-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Lets do this
cjward23 said:
It was confirmed today that HTC will update the Desire HD to ICS.
I think this is unfair, the Desire Z was released at the same time and cost the same. I have and still maintain that HTC should of never pushed a sense 3.x update to our devices, But with the announcement of the HTC One V and the leaked RUU's i can confirm that we now have a version of sense that runs very well on our devices.
So I am asking you to take 1 minute to sign the petition to get HTC to release an update for what seems to be a device they have forgotten about.
Please post this link on your blogs, twitter, facebook and anywhere else that you can get it some coverage.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ceo-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Lets do this
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yes i will post it every where!!!
cjward23 said:
It was confirmed today that HTC will update the Desire HD to ICS.
I think this is unfair, the Desire Z was released at the same time and cost the same. I have and still maintain that HTC should of never pushed a sense 3.x update to our devices, But with the announcement of the HTC One V and the leaked RUU's i can confirm that we now have a version of sense that runs very well on our devices.
So I am asking you to take 1 minute to sign the petition to get HTC to release an update for what seems to be a device they have forgotten about.
Please post this link on your blogs, twitter, facebook and anywhere else that you can get it some coverage.
http://www.change.org/petitions/ceo-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Lets do this
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+1 to this. Lets do this guys!!
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Please click to submit this thread as a news tip, front page of XDA would be ace
SIGNED AND BLASTED EVERYWHERE! Thank you for initiating this CJ.
We are up to 135 sigs. Would be great to see 500 buy the end of the day
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Don't forget you can always make a personal plea to HTC
https://www.facebook.com/htcuk
https://mobile.twitter.com/htc
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Signed, hope this will lead to something
Good find! At least they should give us the cam drivers and new wifi calling libs, id be happy then. Those glitches didn't mean **** to me cept a simple kill the launcher
i support and signed this, thanks for all your efforts!
Duplicate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531698
Just a random thought. Could it be that they wont release ics for the dz ( just yet) because they are giving the older models, as we can see with sensation and the xe and xl. The 3.6 version of sense wich would run slow on our devices.
Maybe when they update there whole line with sense 4.0 the dz may get ics?
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johrie said:
Just a random thought. Could it be that they wont release ics for the dz ( just yet) because they are giving the older models, as we can see with sensation and the xe and xl. The 3.6 version of sense wich would run slow on our devices.
Maybe when they update there whole line with sense 4.0 the dz may get ics?
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http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_release...that_will_get_android_40_update-news-3974.php
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RajkoK said:
Duplicate.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1531698
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Oops, i will keep mine running though I'm up I have more sigs already. Having 2 can't hurt though
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cjward23 said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_release...that_will_get_android_40_update-news-3974.php
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Yes i have read that but it says nothing about wich sense version they are using. My thought was the whole list is getting sense 3.6 wich maybe is to heavy for our device?
Sent from my HTC Vision
The explanation regarding Sense 3.6 and 4.0 can be seen here
HTC Sense 3.6 preview by Engadget
Both versions were developed in parallel to each other, which gave us even more reason to initially believe the two would be closer in look and features than they actually were. So what gives? According to HTC, there are a couple reasons: first, users of legacy devices are accustomed to the previous interface, and the upgrade adds the features and benefits of ICS without upsetting that user experience. Second, only the One lineup can support ImageSense, which is an integral part of Sense 4.0.
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This explains the fragmentation
any way my +1 for the petition
I made 2 threads in other forums:
mobilephonetalk
ipmart-forum
The reason the G2/Desire Z is not receiving the ICS update imo is the issue of RAM and not being a high end device (not worth the time in HTC's opinion?). All those devices on the update list are high end HTC devices with 768MB+ of RAM.
boost3d23 said:
The reason the G2/Desire Z is not receiving the ICS update imo is the issue of RAM and not being a high end device (not worth the time in HTC's opinion?). All those devices on the update list are high end HTC devices with 768MB+ of RAM.
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While I agree that they really skimped on the RAM with the Vision, for what it's worth I have signed the petition. I hope HTC listens.
boost3d23 said:
The reason the G2/Desire Z is not receiving the ICS update imo is the issue of RAM and not being a high end device (not worth the time in HTC's opinion?). All those devices on the update list are high end HTC devices with 768MB+ of RAM.
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Wasn't the g2 high end when it was released? I thought I remembered it being almost four without a contract or some **** like that.
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HTC Official ICS Update List, No Desire Z

http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
Another thread about a petition?
no, I about the official upgrade list. In my opinion, the petition is one of the reasons HTC should NOT upgrade the Desire Z, if you look at the petition count.....
Desire hd is getting it so we are fine.
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KyraOfFire said:
no, I about the official upgrade list. In my opinion, the petition is one of the reasons HTC should NOT upgrade the Desire Z, if you look at the petition count.....
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Then i misunderstood it. But to get back at a quote you say in your op. HTC never said that the DZ wont be getting the upgrade, there is always a chance of getting it. Unless you got source on that.
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!!IMPORTANT!!
A fellow dutch user pointed me to this link, if you guys all could be so friendly to sign that petition and than maybe we will get us a official version of ICS for our Desire Z!
So please go to the link guys, you're doing us all a favor! I want to see the counter at atleast 1000 tomorrow morning (Amsterdam time)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
guys please sign here
jijus said:
!!IMPORTANT!!
A fellow dutch user pointed me to this link, if you guys all could be so friendly to sign that petition and than maybe we will get us a official version of ICS for our Desire Z!
So please go to the link guys, you're doing us all a favor! I want to see the counter at atleast 1000 tomorrow morning (Amsterdam time)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493365
guys please sign here
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Dude that link is already in this thread and plenty others
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just signed it. come on people there should be more of us?? shouldn't there???
KyraOfFire said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
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Thats the same list from months ago nothing changed, HTC said this is the 'first' list of devices rolling out there will Be ANOTHER!
KyraOfFire said:
http://blog.htc.com/2012/03/ics/
I woke up in the morning with this news. I have to say that I was very disappointed. Even though I anticipated that HTC won't release an official ICS update for the Desire Z, this news still took a toll on me :-(
now all we can hope for is a better port from the devs (there're already good ICS ROMs for the Desire Z, the Icecream JIBwich ROM I am using is already much better than stock GB, but I do want to have a better camera driver)
well, for anyone who still hopes, at the very least, HTC haven't said that they won't upgrade the Desire Z, and there's still this petition
http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-release-an-android-4-0-update-for-the-htc-desire-z
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Dude calm down! it's just the first wave. I'm pretty sure HTC going to update our device later on. if not we still have CM9, Virtuous.. ect.
I think we will get it in the second wave imo
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I think the second wave has already been announced. It included the Desire HD and the Desire S. I might be wrong though.
crestofawave said:
I think the second wave has already been announced. It included the Desire HD and the Desire S. I might be wrong though.
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Those devices are in the first wave, no second wave has been announced.
I hope we get an update soon.
Most of my friend with different HTC models get the update. I have the desire z and i got nothing up to now, except 2.3.3 last year.
Remember, HTC has never said that they've finalized the list of devices to be upgraded. We still might get it, we may not. Besides, enough phones will be upgraded to give us a 100% working ICS rom anyway from CyanogenMod and others.
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charisk123 said:
Most of my friend with different HTC models get the update. I have the desire z and i got nothing up to now, except 2.3.3 last year.
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Yeah, well, our phones are pretty old, two years now. Most companies rather just spend their money pushing their new line of phones instead. I use the Andromadus ROM and it works very well, running ICS 4.0.3
From the CyanogenMod Q&A
Q: [Device with less than 512mb RAM shipped] gets CyanogenMod 9?
A: No
JDogg1329 said:
From the CyanogenMod Q&A
Q: [Device with less than 512mb RAM shipped] gets CyanogenMod 9?
A: No
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You don't need to use CyanogenMod 9 to have ICS. And HTC Vision is listed with 512MB RAM anyways.
I am about to give up on cm9 and go backwards. I want a 1.6 super d rom from my g1 on my g2. Hell I might go back to eclair if I could, just to flash something different. ...
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It is possible to port old roms but really... maybe I'm in the minority but there are so many roms to choose from on the g2 why are so many people hung up on needing a solid ics build. I get it the latest is the greatest but what more are you really going to get out of it? Plenty of amazing aosp, cyanogen based and sense roms out here that work amazing, how can anyone be so unsatisfied to want to go back to a donut rom?
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Android 4.3 rumor

Hi all,
i read this :
http://htc.hdblog.it/2013/05/30/and...rtphone-htc-candidati-allaggiornamento-rumor/
It's a fake?
No, It is TOTALLY FAKE.
list says NO to provide updates to Incredible S(Sense 3.6 Android 4.0.4), even One S(4.1), Desire X(4.0.4), Desire Z
Incredible S has same chip, screen resolution as DHD,
One S is mid-range 2012 branched between S3 and S4 chips. One S with S3 recivied update later than S4.
not on the list however, One V is low-end 2012 phone has same chip, screen resolution as DHD. still on Android 4.0.3 only in One series.
They vevn cancelled ICS for DHD during testing phase, ediited their promise after 5 months.(August 2012, 21 months since release) made DHD remain on 2.3.5 Gingerbread, EOLed without further support
I think this list is fake.
Don't wait for update. go out and get something new.
thanks to devs, have plenty of 4.0.3 ROMs. even 4.1, 4.2 but NEXUS experience
TalkAndroid has shown this as well from Source:Technosamigos.com, but I highly doubt it is legit!! Can always hope tho!!
We should get 4.3, but not with Sense and not officially, lol.
I myself can actualy not be bothered with what HTC does next for the DHD.
I waited all this time and stil have no official android 4, there's no hope anymore.
But you gotta love XDA and its members. As i have now a DHD with Android 4.2 and it runs flawlesly. Something HTC could not do.
(So let's just hurry with that Galaxy Note 3 so i don't have to deal with HTC anymore. )
The dhd appeared on some list of devices that would get the 4.1 update. So no, I really don't think it's going to happen. And basically I don't care because I have moved to a custom rom.
Still interested how the new Sense looks, never seen anything newer than what came with dhd stock rom.
HTC Ditched the DHD for ICS so when it comes to Android 4.3 i very much doubt it will come from HTC maybe the XDA Community but not HTC.
Who needs a 4.3 update from HTC anyway with so many flawless custom roms for the desire HD running 4.x.x
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Fake!!
Dude! there is no question arises that HTC will provide the office 4.3 update to our HTC desire HD.
and who cares if HTC provides an update or not. We have rooted our Desire HD and can flash any ROMs which are stable and giving the best result! http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/good.gif
I wonder if its worth changing to 4.3 when it comes out, when I first switched to the 4.2.2 there were so many bugs and compatibility issues
Do you guys realize that what you are talking about has already been discussed when we had the 4.1 rumor and the ics fiasco?
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Cool story bro 4.3 for this old device, our end of support has already finished and also it is marked by HTC as "discontinued"
Why is the hero on the list (totally irrevelant to be on the list.) , and why isn't the sensation on the list.
They may be forgivening for the ics scandal but as I know HTC ; I highly doubt this with their marketing technique of not giving updates.
Also when did rumours become popular? It's not even a reliable source (ie the 4.1 and 4.2 list)
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It's definately not true. I contacted HTC directly and asked them directly and got this reply:
Dear xxxx xxxxxx,
Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your handset.
My name is Katrine and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.
The HTC Desire HD will not be upgraded from Android 2.3.5. The phone did not receive the Android 4 update, and nor did it receive the android 4.1 update. It will not be receiving the Android 4.2.2 update either unfortunately. The HTC desire HD will not receive any further updates, as we have discovered that the phone is running best on Android 2.3.5.
The phone simply does not have the required hardware specifications to run smoothly, quickly and efficiently on higher updates.
I do apologize for the inconvenience, and I do understand your frustration.
Should you require additional support please reply using the link below and confirm the following details.
Full Name:
Address:
Contact Numbers:
IMEI (Found by dialling *#06# from your keypad or in the back of your phone):
To let me know I have successfully answered your query, please follow the link below to close your enquiry, you will have the opportunity to leave feedback about your experience contacting me today.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
To send a reply to this message, please click here.
Sincerely,
Katrine
HTC
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Obviously NO ONE at HTC know about xda developers and all the wonderful roms greater than 2.3.5 that run smoothly & crash less often than stock unrooted os. Very sad indeed.
I think we all know the true reason no more updates without me saying it...
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For HTC It's all about the money.
Even though XDA has extended the life of my Desire HD considerably, I will never buy an HTC phone again simply because they went back on their promise.
Not to mention that the Galaxy S4 does indeed look like an amazing phone...
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I heard a rumor that they will be releasing android 5.0 for the dhd......
RedInuYasha said:
Even though XDA has extended the life of my Desire HD considerably, I will never buy an HTC phone again simply because they went back on their promise.
Not to mention that the Galaxy S4 does indeed look like an amazing phone...
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They only went back on the update after realizing they'd have to reformat the data and system partitions which would piss off a lot of inexperienced customers. I doubt you can keep your word as often as you'd think, I hope your friends and family are more forgiving than you.
They're canceling on the One S too: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/HTC-One-S-Outdated-Updates,23376.html.
bananagranola said:
They're canceling on the One S too: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/HTC-One-S-Outdated-Updates,23376.html.
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Ho ho.. Great..... Job HTC...
You are proving once again.... :what:
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