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[Q]. Galaxy SIII seems smoother and quicker than the Nexus 7

I have both and I expected the Nexus to be faster. But overall. The GSIII seems faster. Both are on stock. I'm wondering who else feels this way if they have this combination?
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Fumblez said:
I have both and I expected the Nexus to be faster. But overall. The GSIII seems faster. Both are on stock. I'm wondering who else feels this way if they have this combination?
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1.The Tegra 3 processor in Nexus 7 is not as fast as Galaxy S3's Exynos 4412 quad core.
2.Nexus 7 runs on android 4.2.1,more resources consumed in the background thanks to the new features implemented by google.
3.Project butter is more of smoothness at a constant fps,the ui does not perform at high frames.

I believe it is due to 4.2/4.2.1 more than because of the processor. 4.1.1/4.1.2 were really fast and smooth....

Also, 2gb of ram helps make things faster.
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SithDagger said:
Also, 2gb of ram helps make things faster.
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But 2GB RAM is only in the U.S/N.America versions of the S3 that run Snapdragon dual core processors. The Euro Exynos S3's that run quad core have 1GB RAM.

My Evo 4G LTE is faster than my Nexus too, in terms of UI.

Well, the GSIII is also twice the price? Be happy that you have 2 decent android devices
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I have both devices, but SGS3 is not stock anymore (stock kernel, though - so far). I guess it's greater fluidity and responsiveness is somewhat expected. What I notice a lot is screen density difference (GS3>N7, ofc), particularly on text. I also enjoy AMOLED saturated colours, let them be false, I don't care. GS3 is awesome, and was way more expensive where and when I got it then Nexus 7, so I guess it's only fair.

Is it me or is the s4 laggy compared to the note 2

I have used the phone for 2 days and it just seems more laggy than the note 2. The note 2 is crispy especially when switching between apps.
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Yes. I have noticed this as well. Last weekend I purchased a HTC One, the reception was very poor compared to the Note 2, also seemed to have a bit of lag. I took it back immediately.
Then, I outright bought the Galaxy S4 and am debating taking it back because of the lag. I wonder if it has something to do with 1080 vs 720 screen resolution processing?

yaniel06 said:
I have used the phone for 2 days and it just seems more laggy than the note 2. The note 2 is crispy especially when switching between apps.
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My best guess the is the s4 software was a rush job. They didn't expect to have to use the snapdragon 600 processor and so they didn't have time to fully optomize it the best they could. The soc is more than powerful enough. However, i think with in the the next month or so an update will completely clear that up. The same thing happened to the s3.

samdsox said:
My best guess the is the s4 software was a rush job. They didn't expect to have to use the snapdragon 600 processor and so they didn't have time to fully optomize it the best they could. The soc is more than powerful enough. However, i think with in the the next month or so an update will completely clear that up. The same thing happened to the s3.
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That is true, with an update it will help regulate the system a little better. I do too remember that with the SIII i didnt have it then but i knew a few people who did have it. The lag isnt BAD but i think to much runs in the background and sucks the ram up I feel as if i need a task killer for some of the background crap. Plus with the awesome dev selection coming here and once tweaks start cracking out im sure it will be all gone

What I did was install trickstermod, change the governor from on demand to interactive, up the read ahead from 256 to 1024, change scheduler to deadline, and turn off zram.. and this thing is running like butter. And I'm getting amazing battery life

opz187 said:
What I did was install trickstermod, change the governor from on demand to interactive, up the read ahead from 256 to 1024, change scheduler to deadline, and turn off zram.. and this thing is running like butter. And I'm getting amazing battery life
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I see two settings for the CPU Governor... You just changed the one under the General section correct. Or did you also change the Governor setting under the Specific sections as well?
EDIT: NVM the one under Specific section is for the GPU... misread it the first time I looked at the settings.

This seems odd to me. I had an S3 tweaked to optimal performance, and the S4 completely stock still blazes in comparison.
I don't have a single sliver of lag, I go from app to app in a heartbeat, and my roommate has a Note 2 as well and the S4 is still smoother.
Very weird, this is one beast of a phone haha. There is literally nothing better at the moment since it came out so early in the year!
I'm sure any issues you have will disappear in a second once kernel development gets going!
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The latest sprint OTA takes care of the lag issue
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inlineboy said:
This seems odd to me. I had an S3 tweaked to optimal performance, and the S4 completely stock still blazes in comparison.
I don't have a single sliver of lag, I go from app to app in a heartbeat, and my roommate has a Note 2 as well and the S4 is still smoother.
Very weird, this is one beast of a phone haha. There is literally nothing better at the moment since it came out so early in the year!
I'm sure any issues you have will disappear in a second once kernel development gets going!
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What do you consider to be "lag"? The S4 does lag. That's all there is to it. Not as much as my EVO LTE does but it still does. Especially compared to the HTC One. But I'd rather have a little lag as opposed to the negatives with HTC, Sense, and the One.
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Delakit said:
What do you consider to be "lag"? The S4 does lag. That's all there is to it. Not as much as my EVO LTE does but it still does. Especially compared to the HTC One. But I'd rather have a little lag as opposed to the negatives with HTC, Sense, and the One.
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I'm sure you know all about my phone.
My phone doesn't stutter in the slightest, it does not ever freeze up even for a second, everything opens and close immediately, multi tasking works flawlessly, there is literally nothing on it that doesn't work flawlessly. It has a processor that's already excessively powerful for just a phone.
As other people have said, some people may be having lag solely due to software, and the consensus is that the latest firmware updates took care of the minor issues people were having. I've had an android phone from every generation starting with the G1 and I can say that my phone, the one in my hand, does not lag at all, while all others had plenty of lag decreasing exponentially through generations.
I am running AOSP though, and not the stock TW though and have been since it came out, so I can't give a respectable opinion on the current state of the stock rom.
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Off topic, but what do u consider to be the negatives of the htc one that keep you from getting it? Just asking cause I might be trading with somebody's s4 today
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Off topic, but what do u consider to be the negatives of the htc one that keep you from getting it? Just asking cause I might be trading with somebody's s4 today
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The S4 is a better investment. HTC is on the brink of going out of business. The S4 will receive constant updates for the next 2 years where that's always been a challenge with HTC phones.
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inlineboy said:
I'm sure you know all about my phone.
My phone doesn't stutter in the slightest, it does not ever freeze up even for a second, everything opens and close immediately, multi tasking works flawlessly, there is literally nothing on it that doesn't work flawlessly. It has a processor that's already excessively powerful for just a phone.
As other people have said, some people may be having lag solely due to software, and the consensus is that the latest firmware updates took care of the minor issues people were having. I've had an android phone from every generation starting with the G1 and I can say that my phone, the one in my hand, does not lag at all, while all others had plenty of lag decreasing exponentially through generations.
I am running AOSP though, and not the stock TW though and have been since it came out, so I can't give a respectable opinion on the current state of the stock rom.
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I have all 3 devices the S3 S4 and Note 2 and the S4 is way smother than all. I have zero lag as well. Maybe those that do should try a hard reset just a thought.
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I've noticed this in every version of the s4 using a snapdragon 600 I've seen. Some will come out of the box fine others tend to lag. To the op I'd give the one another shot. I think your the only person whose had lag issues, so you probably got a dud unit.
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enik_fox said:
I've noticed this in every version of the s4 using a snapdragon 600 I've seen. Some will come out of the box fine others tend to lag. To the op I'd give the one another shot. I think your the only person whose had lag issues, so you probably got a dud unit.
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Weird. I noticed lag on the display model at Sprint, on my brothers S4 right after he purchased his, and on mine right after purchasing my S4. My brother also claims his device doesn't lag the slightest bit but it clearly did while I was testing his out. Maybe some of us are super-human and can detect a higher FPS in the 'ol noggin. Lol. Who knows.
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I have 0 lag with the updated. It seems to have taken care if that issue
I also notice I have more free RAM than I used to have prior to OTA
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I have a question? When I look at my ram usage it stays at 1.2+ out of 1.78. Is that how it is for everyone else? Sorry if this has been asked.
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Nexus 4 vs SGS4 vs Htc One (lag)

Hi everybody, I want to buy one of this three devices (since I have a very old phone now, the galaxy ace), but I'd like to know which one is the most lagfree. The s4 and the htc one are surely faster (even If I saw some videos in which the n4 with custom rom was faster than an s4 with stock rom), but what about lag? Is the n4 really the smoothest android experience? Thanks in advance!

I have not gotten the chance to try the Galaxy S4 but I have gotten to use an HTC One for a few days, I loved the phone but I still feel my Nexus 4 was a smoother experience. The HTC one is extremely smooth and fast though, no doubt.
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I've heard that the s4 has some lag. Either way every android phone I had with oem skin on has gotten more and more slow and laggy, my gnex is almost smoother then my s3 by now.. I have no idea why
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The S4 is very laggy at the moment. I've had both the AT&T and T-Mobile version both lag during leaving apps. Sometime it lags on the home screen while moving through pages.
HTC one i only got to play with for about 30 mins and it was pretty smooth. I didn't notice lag at all. But the nexus with a custom rom is going to be better until someone makes better use of the HTC one and GS4 power.
And for the record the GS4 lag on a custom rom CM10 and Wicked.

I played with a brand new s4 today, only factory apps installed, and imported contacts, and i definitely noticed some ui lag. Nexus 4 is way smoother imo.
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The S4 is stupidly laggy for something with such amazing hardware. From videos that I've seen the One seems pretty much as lag-free as the N4, right now the One is definitely the best phone on the market IMO.

Ok guys, thanks for the help! I want the nexus 4 so badly!

The Zel said:
Ok guys, thanks for the help! I want the nexus 4 so badly!
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You won't regret it.
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I had a play wit ha S4 yesterday. Its almost unrecognizable as an android device. Samsung has done their best to bloat touchwiz up so bad, it almost wont run. Shame for a phone with such awesome hardware to have stuttering and lag like that .

S4 is too much laggy (exynos octa version) because it doesnt have a govenor and I/O scheduler sufficiently smart to manage the low-power and and performance cores.

If you wanna add a wildcard how about the s4 Google edition, all the nexus experience with the Sammy hardware. Unlocked bootloader out of the box. Should be a contender.
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I've had my nexus 4 for about 2 weeks and I have yet to experience any type of lag.
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BxingFetus said:
If you wanna add a wildcard how about the s4 Google edition, all the nexus experience with the Sammy hardware. Unlocked bootloader out of the box. Should be a contender.
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I read that the s4 gogle edition will be an USA exclusive, and I live in Italy... Also the nexus 4 looks 100 times cooler ahahah

I was torn between the GE S4 and the Nexus. I picked the nexus because it is the same experience for almost have the price.
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If you plan on getting a nexus 4 root and flash roms and kernels, it makes the phone so much better
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Tunderpimp said:
If you plan on getting a nexus 4 root and flash roms and kernels, it makes the phone so much better
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It's the first thing I'm going to do once it'll be in my hand!

The Zel said:
It's the first thing I'm going to do once it'll be in my hand!
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I've got a Nexus 4. Zero lag. Very smooth. I've gone into a few different AT&T stores to check out the HTC One and the S4. Every time I tried the S4, the first thing I noticed was lag. I was really surprised. Even a little jittery when swiping the home screen. It's not terrible, don't get me wrong, but it's there. Didn't notice it with the HTC One.
My thoughts are that the HTC One has the highest build quality of the three. There's no doubt, it's the most "premium" and for that reason it makes me want one. It also has the best screen in my opinion. However, there's also no doubt that the Nexus 4 has the best software (both HTC and Samsung ruined their phones with all the unnecessary changes they made) and there's also obviously no doubt that it will get Android updates the quickest and longest into the future, so for that reason I'd stick with my Nexus 4. I also hate that both HTC and Samsung removed the dedicated app switcher button (which I use all the time). The Nexus 4 battery life is a little disappointing coming from an iPhone 4S, but it blows the iPhone away in almost every other way in my opinion.
The best phone "in the world" would be an HTC One that was a Nexus and had the app-switcher button. But, it doesn't exist. So, Nexus 4 is my vote instead.

The Zel said:
I read that the s4 gogle edition will be an USA exclusive, and I live in Italy... Also the nexus 4 looks 100 times cooler ahahah
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That's true I love the nexus' look and operation. Hands down my favorite android device. Can't wait for the five.
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Photo Lag?

Hi
Does anyone have the problem of extreme choppyness and lag when zooming into a photo in the gallery and panning around?
It also seems to happen in quickpic too, and it's very strange indeed. Also quite embaressing when showing your mates a photo and its lagging like hell.
This isn't a problem on the HTC Evo 3d and One S, and tbh any other recent phone I've had. Seems to be Samsung specific and it has persisted on different roms. I'm currently stock 4.1.2 rooted.
Any suggestions? It seems ridiculous how Samsung have not corrected this.
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Do you by any chance turn on power saving mode?
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I have the same, it isnt lag while wifi or 3g is off that much , a bug i think

darkteb said:
Do you by any chance turn on power saving mode?
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Nope
Just seems to be a bug. Do you not have this problem? Power saver mode is on on my HTC One S and it's smooth as butter when panning a photo.
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Tick force gpu rendering in developer settings, it's a quick fix at least.
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adytum said:
Tick force gpu rendering in developer settings, it's a quick fix at least.
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Cheers
But I already had it ticked :what:
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I am not on stock rom and the gallery in Slim Bean 7 works fine with me.
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I'm on stock 4.1.2 rooted but no such problem
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Very strange then. I have had it from the beginning.
I'm on the LTE version though
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Yes I have this too.
While my nexus 7 with the crappy Tegra SoC doesn't lag at all when viewing photos. Makes me think it's only samsung's terrible rom optimization/drivers...
Does AOSP/CM roms have this issue as well?

Yes it lags for me also. I have 2000-3000 photos in gallery and it lags
I'm on stock 4.1.2 with root, and im using 64gb SanDisk ultra.

fade2black101 said:
Hi
Does anyone have the problem of extreme choppyness and lag when zooming into a photo in the gallery and panning around?
It also seems to happen in quickpic too, and it's very strange indeed. Also quite embaressing when showing your mates a photo and its lagging like hell.
This isn't a problem on the HTC Evo 3d and One S, and tbh any other recent phone I've had. Seems to be Samsung specific and it has persisted on different roms. I'm currently stock 4.1.2 rooted.
Any suggestions? It seems ridiculous how Samsung have not corrected this.
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Man, are you sure that Samsung is responsible for everything you did on your rooted phone? Where's your responsibility?
I'm still sitting on 4.1.1 (stock) and everything is ok, no lag (except when go into Widgets and when you clean your RAM).
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artorelis said:
Man, are you sure that Samsung is responsible for everything you did on your rooted phone? Where's your responsibility?
I'm still sitting on 4.1.1 (stock) and everything is ok, no lag (except when go into Widgets and when you clean your RAM).
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Yeah I am sure it is Samsung/the rom. I've done nothing much at all on my rooted phone and this also occurs after a fresh non rooted wipe and also on the 4.1.1 rom. Rooted or unrooted, and fresh from a wipe.
This does not happen on my HTC ONE S or any other HTC Android phone I have had. Rooted or unrooted. The gallery app in general is laggy as hell too but I'll put that down to how many photos I have.
The lag I'm refering to is related to when you pan around a zoomed photo which was taken with the phone camera. And this also applies to non-stock gallery apps.
Will not be taking any responsibility here whatsoever and fully lay the blame at Samsung's door.
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darkchazz said:
Yes I have this too.
While my nexus 7 with the crappy Tegra SoC doesn't lag at all when viewing photos. Makes me think it's only samsung's terrible rom optimization/drivers...
Does AOSP/CM roms have this issue as well?
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Nope.
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Note 3 will it lag?

Hi basically I'm looking at buying the 4g snapdragon note 3 after coming from a 1gb ram s3 and I'm just wondering. Compared to an iPhone in particular android phones are really really slow when opening apps and nowhere near as smooth I've never used a note phone but I am used to touch wiz do you guys think that after a few months the note 3 will become slow and start lagging like every other phone compared to Iphones?
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Note 3 will it blend?

Will it lag after few month of use? - No, it will not.
Will it lag after installing bunch of crap you don't need? - probably, like any other phone, including iphone.

Every OS will lag, TW will lag, but I'm using TW on my S3 so yes it will eventually.
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[email protected] said:
Will it lag after few month of use? - No, it will not.
Will it lag after installing bunch of crap you don't need? - probably, like any other phone, including iphone.
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No see this isn't true my gf has hundreds of apps on her iPhone 4s and it's still as fast as the day she bought it so it's not any other phone, the phone shouldn't just slow down just from having apps installed on it.
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My note 2 doesn't lag. If anything Google needs to work on the input lag, or touchscreen input but that will be quite a hurdle with the java VM.

anonymousirritator said:
Nope it wont for sure...if it do wait for note 4.
Ps-thank me.
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wtf am I thanking you for? I hate when people beg for "thanks". It's turning into a mirror image of the the "Like" button on facebook.

anonymousirritator said:
Nope it wont for sure...if it do wait for note 4.
Ps-thank me.
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You can't just say it won't like you have no evidence to back that statement up. Why won't it lag cause touchwiz always lags
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Drizzy xS said:
You can't just say it won't like you have no evidence to back that statement up. Why won't it lag cause touchwiz always lags
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Exactly!
and when he sees the note 4's features and sammy reveals it with a couple of new things, he's gonna end up waiting on the note 5, then same thing happens and then he's gonna skip both 4 and 5 and wait for the note 6, then 7, 8, 9, etc. Lol jk
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If it lags it'll be caused by software and look where you are... There will be many great roms all of which will improve on Samsung's stock