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Original news link:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/13/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-hits-the-fcc-potentially-ready-for-atandt-3g/
FCC Link:
https://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas...e=N&application_id=273771&fcc_id='A3LGTI9100'
I'd be really happy if it does come on at&t bands because all of Canadia works on the same bands
that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.
Either way he can use it just fine, so it's a lot to get excited about
he could use it without fcc's approval...
also engadget was really slow this is friday's news
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_gal...mode_i708_prototype_hit_the_fcc-news-2412.php
what did you think? ffc doesn't work on sundays
Well I for one happy about this.
I held out for waiting for the atrix, but in the end it just wasn't enough for me. I have a captivate and have enjoyed having it rooted and running froyo way before AT&T and sammy got off their ass.
i fully expect the s2 to have all the same bands that the galaxy s1 had, and the omnia hd also had, the same quadband coverage, dont expect anything to change here. because they are the most widely used bands, perfect for an international model.
Oh man, this is getting harder and harder.
Is going to be either SGS2 or iP5.
So difficult.
i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.
This was known for a while now, that the Galaxy S 2 wwould work on ATT 3G bands. What is not known is whether ATT will pick up the phone or not.
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They would be fools not to pick it up.
Phones are just bait to get and keep subscribers. The phone should be a great device.
If this is a AT&T only phone, there is no justice in the world.
The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.
Yeah, that is true.
If AT&T does get they will probably request that sammy retard the phone some how. Like taking away some of the radios or no front facing camera.
I'm hoping they wont do that this time, but they probably will find some way to screw it up.
Agreed! I won't ever buy a AT&T retarded phone again, if there is an international one available I will pay extra for it. Like the Captivate vs i9000.
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that doesnt mean anything.. the stock sgs ii has att bands and just becuase it is going through fcc approval doesnt mean it is att requesting the approval.. could just be samsung getting it approved as it does all its phones.
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vista1984 said:
i still believe S2 will be compatible to all providers, like S1,,
make the base of fight with ip5,,
using tegra2 to ensure the quantity for sale ,, which makes sense.
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I completely understand if you guys didn't dig into FCC documents to read what they said, I don't blame you, but just to clarify, the device passed is an 850/1900 ONLY phone, meaning it can only be for AT&T or Canadian carriers.
Other versions will likely be released, but the version that passed FCC is not going to work on other US carriers.
MikeyMike01 said:
The international version works on AT&T.
Even if some US Carriers carry it, it will suck in comparison. Look at the Captivate/Vibrant compared to the i9000.
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We'll have to see if they strip out features again. FFC is a must, and I don't think they'll strip that out. I think they took that out last time because the network wasn't ready for video calling. They wanted HSPA+ prior to letting people use video calling. Other phones AT&T sells have an FFC now, so I don't think the SGS2 will be any different.
Other than that, what, FM radio and no HSUPA? AT&T SAYS they are going to start rolling out HSUPA, we'll see, if not I'm sure a radio swap with an international version will work again. And FM radio would be a nice addition, but I certainly won't make a decision on a phone over it. I can always use TuneIn and iheartradio if I really want to listen to my ****ty local stations. Oh, and a flash on the camera. That one actually may sway my decision to buy it if they don't include a flash. That was one of the stupidest things I've seen, but I found that I don't care about flash for pictures as much as I do for a flashlight. Most cell phone pictures taken with flash look like crap anyway.
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!
AJerman said:
I would go for an international version if they were at least somewhat reasonable in price, but I'm not paying $700-800+ USD for an international version.
Anyway, I hope they will hurry up. I have an upgrade that I'm itching to use!
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Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.
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Why not? Use your upgrade + $199 to buy an Iphone5, sell it for ~$600, pay <$300 out-of-pocket for the international version. The latest details are $700 and a May date from the other thread.
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Because I don't want to spend that much on a phone right now. I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy, so I have to limit myself. Depending on the cost on AT&T, I'm up for upgrade price plus $50 off. If it hits a $200 price point again I can probably get it for $150. We don't even know what will be different between the two yet.
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I just bought an iPad 2 as my latest toy,
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I'm sorry.
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But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?
andrew53517 said:
But will the international version allow us to have HSPA+ on ATT? Or just 3G?
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HSPA+, fully unlocked
I GOT A DEAL FROM LOCAL TMOBILE G2+300 FOR samsung galaxy S2
uhhh... I paid 500$ for my G2... i dunno if I'd pay 800 for the galaxy s2. after my poor experience with the original galaxy s, I don't think I will ever have a non htc android phone again.
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I GOT A DEAL FROM LOCAL TMOBILE G2+300 FOR samsung galaxy S2
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Idk. what condition is your G2 in? thats really what it depends on. if its in mediocre condition then its really only worth about $200. so $500 for a good condition SGSII is a screamin' deal.
silverton said:
uhhh... I paid 500$ for my G2... i dunno if I'd pay 800 for the galaxy s2. after my poor experience with the original galaxy s, I don't think I will ever have a non htc android phone again.
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I hear Samsung has actually gotten more developer-friendly recently, especially after releasing the NS. Either way, I'd wait and see what the reviews and root procedure for the SGS2 are.
dunno about you, but i was still miffed with the fact that samsung refused to sell a gsm version of the epic 4g (unbranded from sprint's crap ofcourse) to the rest of the world. I was so intent on getting it that I hoped it would've appeared 3 months after the epic went on sale in the US....
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dunno about you, but i was still miffed with the fact that samsung refused to sell a gsm version of the epic 4g (unbranded from sprint's crap ofcourse) to the rest of the world. I was so intent on getting it that I hoped it would've appeared 3 months after the epic went on sale in the US....
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You know the Epic 4G is just Sprint's variation of the Galaxy S? T-Mobile's is the Vibrant, AT&T's is the captivate, Sprint's is the Epic 4G, and the global GSM version is the Galaxy S. Sprint just made it fat with a keyboard.
ofcourse i knew it was a variant of the galaxy s. you also do realize that the epic is the only one with a keyboard and the look that i like.
that's why i got a DZ. it has a keyboard. My biggest prereq is that is HAS to have a physical keyboard
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ofcourse i knew it was a variant of the galaxy s. you also do realize that the epic is the only one with a keyboard and the look that i like.
that's why i got a DZ. it has a keyboard. My biggest prereq is that is HAS to have a physical keyboard
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The reason why it has a keyboard is because Sprint stipulated that it had to. In other words, Samsung didn't want it to have a keyboard but made one as a Sprint exclusive. Aka Samsung wouldn't be able to sell a GSM version to the rest of the world because it was a 1-carrier build. Why is that Samsung's fault? Its Sprints fault for wanting the exclusive. Not to mention that Samsung would have never made a keyboard one if Sprint didn't ask.
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I hear Samsung has actually gotten more developer-friendly recently, especially after releasing the NS. Either way, I'd wait and see what the reviews and root procedure for the SGS2 are.
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The reviews are already out. The SGSII has been out in Europe for a while and every review I see has said nothing but great things.
martonikaj said:
The reason why it has a keyboard is because Sprint stipulated that it had to. In other words, Samsung didn't want it to have a keyboard but made one as a Sprint exclusive. Aka Samsung wouldn't be able to sell a GSM version to the rest of the world because it was a 1-carrier build. Why is that Samsung's fault? Its Sprints fault for wanting the exclusive. Not to mention that Samsung would have never made a keyboard one if Sprint didn't ask.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but all I'm saying is that I'm not happy that Samsung did not decide to release a gsm version. It does not matter if it was sprint's stipulation or anyone else's for that matter. the point is that they never released a gsm version and that I would've bought it if it was for a gsm network.
No need to go defensive for samsung. Not to mention that it is not difficult for them to sell a gsm variant for the epic.
after all this is simply my view on what I would've gone for if I had a chance, but i'm unhappy that they didn't because it was such a nice phone.
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I'm not sure what you're getting at here, but all I'm saying is that I'm not happy that Samsung did not decide to release a gsm version. It does not matter if it was sprint's stipulation or anyone else's for that matter. the point is that they never released a gsm version and that I would've bought it if it was for a gsm network.
No need to go defensive for samsung. Not to mention that it is not difficult for them to sell a gsm variant for the epic.
after all this is simply my view on what I would've gone for if I had a chance, but i'm unhappy that they didn't because it was such a nice phone.
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I'm explaining to you that Sprint had an exclusive on the Galaxy S + keyboard (they designed it, they keep it). They wouldn't let Samsung sell a GSM version in the US or abroad for that matter. Don't hate Samsung because Sprint told them not to release it anywhere else lol.
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I'm explaining to you that Sprint had an exclusive on the Galaxy S + keyboard (they designed it, they keep it). They wouldn't let Samsung sell a GSM version in the US or abroad for that matter. Don't hate Samsung because Sprint told them not to release it anywhere else lol.
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Source?
10 chars.
i've never heard about sprint not allowing samsung to sell a gsm version. maybe exclusivity in the US but dunno about worldwide.
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i've never heard about sprint not allowing samsung to sell a gsm version. maybe exclusivity in the US but dunno about worldwide.
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When carriers ask for a customization for a phone, that phone doesn't exist anywhere else. It was clear that Samsung was going to sell their variant of the Galaxy S without a keyboard. They sold the i9000 version in Europe sans keyboard, that was their unlocked GSM version. Sprint requested the keyboard and got it. Samsung made that phone for Sprint, its not like they had it in the pipeline and Sprint stole it as an exclusive to keep it CDMA. Its pretty clear Samsung was willing to do whatever the US carriers wanted by re-designing the phone 4 times for all the major carriers, and even some regionals.
I'd understand your frustration if it was a GSM worldphone kept on lock to AT&T/T-mobile, but in reality they'd have to redesign it to be a GSM version, and whether Sprint wanted this to be the only keyboard Galaxy S or not, Samsung surely wasn't going to make a GSM version of it.
But regardless, this has absolutely nothing to do with OP's question...
Which is exactly why i dont understand why you were so intent on arguing this when its not related to the op. It simply seems to me that you are arguing for the sake of doing so
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Telus will let you buy it online outright for a whopping $779.
Bell has it at $729 but requiresa $30 mtm contract and $35 setup fee.
Does not seem to be available on Rogers yet.
I'm glad I ordered from Expansys. Almost $100 cheaper and unlocked. I hate these bas****s and am really want to get to the point where I am not locked into them by virtue of the hardware. Rogers is terrible - I have a family plan (four phones on it) so any time we do an HUP, the contract period on ALL the phones gets reset. I have stopped buying locked in phones and am a year away from making them work to keep my business. I regret having left Telus when the iPhone was first released by Rogers in Canada. They had gone out of their way to keep me as a customer - to the point where I had some amazing free customer loyalty freebies. Currently I have nada from Rogers in that regard.
/vent session off.
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I'm glad I ordered from Expansys. ...
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Did you order the Canadian or the International version? I thought Expansys sells only the latter...
That's exactly why i didn't order the international version... I want LTE!!
Jesus christ they making it hard for us to buy it at full price, I don't understand why? Not everyone wants a new freaking contract!
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A quick check online on sntraders.com they have both model 725 hspa+ 749 lte.
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or you could just buy off the telus team webstore for $662.99 no contract
see attached
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or you could just buy off the telus team webstore for $662.99 no contract
see attached
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I heard of this before... I think i have to know someone with a telus team webstore account no?
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big samm said:
That's exactly why i didn't order the international version... I want LTE!!
Jesus christ they making it hard for us to buy it at full price, I don't understand why? Not everyone wants a new freaking contract!
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how do you think they make thier money ?
big samm said:
I heard of this before... I think i have to know someone with a telus team webstore account no?
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Yes i can assist you just PM me
https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-sgh-i717-galaxy-note-hd-unlocked-black.html
... yet another option. Although this thread is probably more suitable for the "AT&T Note" forum..
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https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-sgh-i717-galaxy-note-hd-unlocked-black.html
... yet another option. Although this thread is probably more suitable for the "AT&T Note" forum..
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would this one works on tmobile 3g?
zozodouce said:
would this one works on tmobile 3g?
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I asked Negri about this. They said to check back in tomorrow. They're testing this as we type.
For anyone with the Canadian Note - is it true that it just has 512 Ram!
No it does not. That was a typo and spread as truth.
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is the LTE version unlocked if you buy it at full price?
Its locked if purchased from Bell telus or rogers
Its up on Rogers website... The lowest i've seen so far...699$ Sure it's lock but won't cost more that 10$ to get this badboy unlock!
def wrong section, but i feel bad for canadian note owners having their unbranded nicer device labeled as a bloat infested and branded ugly att phone
forum should be named Samsung Galaxy Note I717 instead of "ATT"
^ just a suggestion
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https://negrielectronics.com/samsung-sgh-i717-galaxy-note-hd-unlocked-black.html
... yet another option. Although this thread is probably more suitable for the "AT&T Note" forum..
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I noticed it says LTE bands=700/1700 MHz...which seems to match the AT&T LTE bands. But will that Note version actually work fine with the AT&T LTE??
Aerials said:
I noticed it says LTE bands=700/1700 MHz...which seems to match the AT&T LTE bands. But will that Note version actually work fine with the AT&T LTE??
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Yes, bell/telus/rogers have the same network bands as ATT 4g and LTE, as long as its unlocked.
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Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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walliester said:
well Iam planning to get the international one, cause I'm with Tmobile and i think they don't have lte yet rigth?.
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That's true but Tmobile is supposed to get a non LTE version and it will be much cheaper than the international version if you buy it on contract.
It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.
eksasol said:
It depends on your location. If you have no LTE where you live, but has 3G, then international version is good idea. Also international version is pentaband so you can switch between TMO and ATT. Also it will inevitably gets more developers than carrier locked version and has better resale value.
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I do have lte in my city, but not sure if it really matters to me. There is free wifi almost everywhere these days, and I am guessing lte coverage is going to be pretty spotty since it is so new.
I guess since I upgrade my phone once a year, I would be fine without lte for another 6-12 months.
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International.
Philly doesn't have LTE yet, but probably soon.
I like having the physical button on front to wake the phone, us versions usually don't have that.
Less bloat.
To make up the price difference I'll probably get the iphone 5 on contract when it comes out later this year and sell it on ebay.
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Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I have pre ordered mine already as I have T-Mobile wthout LTE... I will however switch my order from blue to white as soon as its an option.
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eksasol said:
I need to correct myself, there is an update in spec, and it won't suport T-Mo 3G. gsmarena
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To each their own.
I am on AT&T and we are about to get LTE but I really don't care. I am a WiFi consumer 99.99999% of the time so I would rather have this phone with the hopes I will get updates to JB in the fall quicker and that the ROMS will come faster.
International.
I live in Northern part of LA, we have 4G LTE with ATT. But I always have wifi available where ever I go, even work. I'd rather have a better processor, ROM support, faster updates than 4G LTE that I'll honestly hardly ever use. I guess I'm fine with ATT FAKE 4G.
djsaad1 said:
Anyone in the U.S planning on just getting the international version and not worrying about LTE? I am leaning towards the international version because of the processor and probably better rom support.
I have an international s2 right now and I am not sure I really care about lte speed when it's barely supported right now. I guess the only real issue would be the huge price difference.
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I already decided to skip LTE with the N7000. I don;t use enough carrier data to need it. I prefer the MediaNet $10 UL data. I barely use 1GB a month. Enough to have to pay $30 but not enough to get "value" for that money. I use WiFi almost 100% of the time. 3G+ can stream video without issues. I am ok with that.
LTE is probably great for those who have or don't want to pay for Home Intermet Service and tethers. I have no use for it at this time.
Tough to go back to carrier branded after having the more widely spread international versions.
I may get rid of my at&t Note, and use whatever funds I receive from that to get 1 of these intl versions.
Or, I might just get an intl Note instead...if the screen size and s-pen really is a good reason for why I want to stay Note.
Will the international version work with Tmobile? pros and cons?
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Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.
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Who would sell the International versions to the US?
EDIT: seems like Amazon might. I wonder when they would get their hands on it.
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amazon, expansys, gummobile, handtech, negri, there are a lot of stores that ship to the u.s.
Newegg might sell it too...
Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?
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Do you guys think the sites above would sell the international version the 29th?
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negri and onthegosolutions might send it out on release date. amazon is def not one of the sites that gets the phones on release day.
Does anyone have any information on release dates in the US?
I'm also curious if anyone has heard any rumors of price with contract.
I'm on sprint
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At the London event they said June for USA release, this didn't say what year tho. LOL
I would guess they will ask $299 with contract, will not ever get a US carrier branded phone again, go INTL it's worth every penny.
But that's just me.
itl sgs3's wont work on sprint. we're stuck with whatever butchered version of the phone sprint gives us
ps: will stick with sprint for their prices. unlim txt/data/cell-to-cell for $65/mo... not bad
As far as I've read , I think only people that use at&t can use the international version of the sgs3. Doesn't have the right bands for T-Mobile hspa+. So that means ill have to buy the carrier branded sgs3. Its cool though , I have an upgrade waiting just for it, and I'm going to keep my galaxy nexus (I love my nexus (- best of both worlds!
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I have to buy carrier branded phones as well because Verizon is really my only option as a carrier. So I probably have to wait till the end of this year/next year to get an LTE phone with a quad core. Too bad, I really wanted to give samsung my money for this phone.
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I have to buy carrier branded phones as well because Verizon is really my only option as a carrier. So I probably have to wait till the end of this year/next year to get an LTE phone with a quad core. Too bad, I really wanted to give samsung my money for this phone.
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They can has all of my moneyz.
Im on att and have the note,but i think im going to get this beauty of a phone,just hope the lte will work with international version
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Im on att and have the note,but i think im going to get this beauty of a phone,just hope the lte will work with international version
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Thats a negative......No LTE on international version for us here in the states.
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Thats a negative......No LTE on international version for us here in the states.
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So u mean att lte wont work with the inter version?
ssfirme said:
So u mean att lte wont work with the inter version?
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Correct.
bbgt2 said:
At the London event they said June for USA release...
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Actually, from what I remember they said Summer release, and details would be provided in June. Some rumours are pegging July 1st as the NA launch date, though.